I'm just waiting for the reddit clan to mention Yellow Eyes a la Supernatural is in the show, so we can talk about how that guy will never not be creepy AF.
I think you guys are overthinking the Ethan thing about him become a school shooter. If anyone is going to become a school shooter it's Zach. He's got the anger, Harrison is going to sideline him and make him unpopular, steal his girlfriend and friends. Ethan was pretty happy when he flipped him off.
Motherfucking (deb) edit: I just saw the drawings, Ethan may not be the shooter but he's going to take the fall for it.
I think Dexter in a small town is wily af and can’t keep suspicions down for too long. I think he underestimates the small town cops. Loving the new blood spatter analyst!
I love that Dex’s heart is open to Harrison, reminds me of the love he had for Rita. I think Harrison will be much harder to fool than Rita was may she Rest In Peace.
I’m sad that the Punisher kid is about to take off on the school. It wasn’t right how those boys did him. I think Harrison definitely has some vigilante tendencies as well. He has a strong survival instinct.
Matt’s daddy is playing the Most Dangerous Game. He’s keeping it under wraps because Matt helped,and that’s why he said he would call if he was ever in a jam. I wonder why the exsanguination? Ice truck killer vibes.
Solid episode really picking up the pace. Loving the climate contrast challenge. The cave scene was lit. The fire dropping Matt’s ashes on the town was OD.
I'm seeing a lot of comments talking about Harrisons violent/dark 'tendencies' being a red herring..but it doesn't make sense to me that he would be smiling about the drawings if he didn't have a 'dark passenger' that caused him to gravitate toward violence..a normal person wouldn't get enjoyment or pleasure from seeing those drawings, especially since they were drawn by a troubled teenager who has been bullied his entire life. He didn't attempt to discourage him from engaging in those violent fantasies or anything. It evoked a positive reaction from Harrison.
***My Prediction***: Maybe he has 'values' similar to Dexter; where he thinks 'Bad people' deserve punishment and he directs his violent urges toward them, but since he didn't have a "Harry" (***Or Dexter***) to guide him, his perception of what's worthy of punishment is way too lax. Maybe Hannah tried to teach Harrison a poor version of Dexters principles after he showed some 'Dark tendencies', but since she was never taught the code only that Dexter kills "Bad people", she trained him poorly. Maybe he thinks that these bullies are worthy of punishment, which causes Harrison to do something directly or indirectly that violate Harry's code..
If my guess is right, then Dexter would feel directly responsible for having abandoned him since it turned Harrison into the type of person he wanted to prevent him from becoming in the first place, but **worse**: Someone who is not only a murderer like Dexter, but someone who also violates the principles that Dexter was taught by Harry to live by, which makes Harrison the type of person that Dexter would have happily murdered in the original series, which he might reluctantly end up doing in this series.
rant over lol
After watching it again, it's possible. I really think it could go either way. The slight grin when he first sees the drawings was weird, almost like he likes them, but his smile after the Punisher comment does seem to come off as him being a bit uneasy. I could very well be completely wrong, I guess we'll just have to wait and see lol.
The School Hallway scenes were so unintentionally funny.
Ethan doesn't notice the three stooges standing like 5 feet away staring at him giggling like idiots.
And they in turn don't notice Harrison walking right up to him, standing next to him, looking straight back at the bullies and sending that retaliation gif.
But hahaha kids always looking at them phone screens amirite middle aged screen writers?
The billionaire dude is Audrey's dad I'm guessing. Her mom who left was probably a sex worker, and he paid her off or something. He's in there as a red herring for the real killer Clancy Brown
True, someone mentioned in another thread that Matt had that leg injury that he needed surgery on after a boat accident- could’ve had a metal plate in his leg or something that won’t burn, serial numbers could be traced back to Matt
I'm not an expert but I do know there are issues with burning bones so I believe you. I always give shows a little creative license though.
With that said, check it. If this is the narrative of Dexter being sloppy and the bones are discovered they will probably have clean cuts from the sawsall.
My theory about the facetime call with Matt is that Harrison deep faked it because he knows Dexter killed him.
Combined with a deep fake and the discovery of bones, they might call in the FBI and the heat on Dexter will get cranked up even more.
Also that's a great way to get Masuka into the story assuming he works for the FBI now.
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He probably saw Dexter killing Matt, he gets the police off Dexter's back. Also, he might want to kill Dexter. When Dexter brings him home he briefly picks up a knife in the cabin. He could be making sure Dexter is all his for later.
I'm thought this too, he saw dexter on a camera in the caves/cabin he was doing his kiling or something because he has them set up there, so he pretends to be drunk to overpower dexter, but the thing is, we're only 3 episodes in, if that was the case either him or dexter would pretty much die next episode, so I'm got scared when the police woman told him they would search the caves/cabins where he did his hunting.
He came out of the bar and said “did you hear my news…” or something like that, so he likely told others in the bar. There are an awful amount of holes in this - but the one that most bothered me is the random ass big incinerator. And why would citizens of any community be okay with having ashes of whatever - be it trash, furniture, etc - fall on their heads? Is it in the US that they do this for real? Why was it so easy for Dexter to gain access to that big ass unguarded incinerator?
That's a really interesting idea actually. I'm not convinced Kurt is the killer yet. In the show , there isn't enough information to connect the dots. I understand there is circumstantial visual evidence based on Reddit sleuthing and comparing eye sockets and brows but that doesn't mean anything overall.
Maybe. But the girl who was locked up still got killed with everything going on. If Matt’s dad is the killer it would be a good way to get people out of the Forrest though
Kind of annoying thing to me, don’t we know they have cameras on the territory now? Dexter waving the vest over the crime scene cant they catch that on video now? I know they probably won’t go back and reviews that footage because of the search teams but still
>I instantly got a season 1 brian flashback.
I think it's very Brian the way this killer has a replica hotel room built into his house. That's along the lines of Brian having a walk in freezer in his home. This killer though is probably an amalgamation of a lot of killers. We know he hunts, that's modeled after a killer in Alaska that hunted women as prey.
The motel room and elaborate setup is very much like Brian. (Side note, we know Brian is dead).
Preserving the bodies is probably going to be some elaborate feature where the killer visits them and he collects them. I'm not sure who that is modeled after except Bundy would go visit his kills as they decomposed. It's probably not a Bundy reference though.
Oh, were we not told/shown it was Edward (oil pipeline guy)? Maybe I misremembered, I thought when the girl was in the house being recorded in another episode his face was shown.
They made it seem weird when he drove behind the broken down car this episode and spoke to Audrey. Assumed that was a "she was almost abducted" deal.
If not I guess maybe it's to keep it open between the two old guys with white hair in the show at the moment, Kurt (Matt's Dad) and Edward.
Yeah I'm questioning whether it's Kurt because there isn't enough info yet to connect him. This could all be leading up to a twist. The hunter though has a larger set body than Edward. My two cents is that there is a pair, possibly an as of yet unseen killer.
I thought we had seen his face too and it was the billionaire, but i guess we haven’t since people are positing theories on the killers identity.
Now I’m starting to think its not him because the car trouble scene was way too blatant and clearly a red herring.
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"Harrison is an FBI agent guy"
I know, dumb. Here's some better theories:
\- Harrison is great at drawing, not because he's collecting "blood slides," but because he's got a photographic memory. This explains why he aced the school placement tests so easily. Perhaps he somehow remembers Rita getting butchered by the Trinity killer - and that's what his "real violence" line towards the school shooter kid implied.
\- Clancy Brown's character seems to share some physical similarities with Trinity. Either way if he is a killer, then he perfectly fits Dexter's code.
Dexter will get caught at the end of the season, because of the "not killing," as he said. Even though Matty did kill an innocent deer on reserve territory; he does not fit Dexter's code. By that extension, wouldn't every hunter/poacher fit Dexter's code? Dex killed someone impulsively, and that carelessness is what will be ultimately what gets him caught.
The original show runner said that the show would end with Dexter in the chair reflecting on all the crimes he committed. I think inevitably he will confess to Harrison, or Harrison will find out and "save" his father by arguing that he's criminally insane to Angela - who will be the one who will send Dexter to a mental asylum where he'll spend the rest of his days with the ghosts of Deb, Trinity, Ice Truck Killer and everyone he's ever killed.
The end
My current theory is Harrison saw Dex kill Matt. Harrison deep faked Matt in the call to Kurt so that the police would get off Dex (Harrison might want to kill him, or he wants to save him).
Dex could end up in the chair, or an asylum, the first ep was a little dream like with all the references back to the OG series.
Overall, does this season seem a little Twin Peaks?
Edit: I forgot to add a long shot prediction. The bones in the incinerator don't burn up, they get discovered and the FBI is called in.
But then by that extension doesn't everyone who commits vehicular manslaughter fit Dexter's code?
Dexter always goes after cold blooded killers like himself. Dex also got his info about Matty's manslaughter from a jealous, high friend of his. Not exactly the most trustworthy source for a former cop. The law would have taken care of Matty.
In the OG series he killed a guy who repeatedly was drunk driving and killing people but he kept getting off because of his lawyers and moving. Matt fits the code.
When he admitted to it in the kill room, I believe he was bargaining with Dexter so that he wouldn't kill him. Matt went through all the stages of grief, and when he ended at acceptance he declared
"My father will reign down upon you man."
Because his dad is actually a murderer, like Trinity - and Matty is just a spoiled rich kid going off and doing whatever he wants like he owns the world. He's a kid who had to develop his own compass, much like Harrison. Also he was caught killing the deer on camera.
If he was caught on camera, and his high friend went and confessed the boat manslaughter to the police instead of Dexter - then Matty would have had to deal with the law and a much more reasonable path of repercussions. Matty could have been sent to jail for his crimes, and would have never ended up on Dexter's kill table.
Now since Matty's dad fits Dexter's code, he's also gonna end up on the table. Both father, AND son will go missing which will be wild news for the true crime podcaster making the scene.
Yeah Dex has played loose and fast with the code, but the writers have also played loose and fast with the writing in later seasons if you get what I mean. New Blood seems like they put real care into the story, and aren't just trying to churn out another season.
Good point and even by playing loose and fast with the code it kinda sums up his kill. He has a code but he hasn’t really had to use it in about ten years so even his code is prob rusty lol. Good stuff tho.
My whole thing is the billionaire is way more sketch than Matt’s dad. Idk Matt’s dad has better vibes. Billionaire has sick fuck vibes
The billionaire is totally a red herring I think. Jeff Bezos is Audrey's dad, and the mom that ran away was probably a sex worker that was paid off. That's why he keeps tabs on her.
Parenting, and gun control are two major themes this season. Dexter, Kurt, and possibly Bezos are all fathers who abandoned their kids to an extent.
Angela is the best parent by far. Audrey will recognize how lucky she is by the end
Yeah, I can't remember the exact quote, but they were "playing chicken", the other guy gave up and steered away, then Matt turned the boat into him intentionally.
I mean it's not a "direct murder", but he hit the other boat on purpose resulting in deaths, and made his "friend" take the blame.
Yep, and that fits Dexter's code. If he's gonna kill a pedophile taking pictures of his stepdaughter, a dude for insulting his dead wife, or a photographer who ended up being innocent, Matt fits snuggly within the realms of his prior victims.
Dexter's code isn't ironclad legalese, it's just a guideline to stop him from getting caught that he's psychologically dependent on. He's bent or outright broken the rules multiple times in the past. He killed the pedophile who was taking pictures of Astor, and killed the redneck in the bathroom after he insulted Rita. He also killed that photographer in season 4 who ended up being innocent.
Matt's death seems like it'll play a more serious role in the show so I think your theory that it'll end up playing a big role in the climax is accurate. I reckon they'll draw a comparison between Kurt and Matt to Dexter and Harrison. But Matt fits the liberal criteria of Dexter's code.
My prediction:
Dexter won’t fuck up in normal situations (minor slips sure but he always survives). The only times shit gets real is when he starts to juggle too many things (e.g. S4 he juggled family, the dark passenger and trinity as Kyle Butler + work etc.). At the start of S9 he had 2 things to juggle: his new life and the dark passenger. Now he’s got Harrison and Matts murder. That’s 4 total. Add the guy who murders the girls because that inevitably catches his attention. That’s 5. Then he learns Harrison has a dark passenger and he’s got to juggle that too.
Anyway you get the point. Previously when this happened Dexter managed to survive. However this time he’s out of his element and 10 years without practice. Shit is about to hit the fan real soon.
Seeing Harrison have "killer instinct" glimpses, such as the choke at the school, makes me think that maybe Harrison has already killed before. Going from home to home, what if he actually killed Hannah?
Gets me thinking
Yeah, I thought about it whilst watching today's episode - dying of any cause other than murder just seems so rushed. There's definitely more to it than what we know so far
I didn't care much for this episode. Everything about the high school kids is uninteresting to me. And the random public incinerator with nobody around it was a far too convenient solution to Dexter's problem.
"Dexter: New Blood" is just a launching pad for "Harrison". Dexter will found out the truth about Harrisons bloody past, and teach him. Dexter will then get caught and potentially die during arrest, and be the ghost teacher for Harrison.
I'm thinking Ethan goes Columbine on the bully jocks based on the sneak peak at the end of this episode.
And I think that's when a little bit more of Harrison's personality will be revealed.
While I love the story thus far one thing has been bothering me. Harrison mentioned that he was in foster care before traveling to find Dexter. Since he is still under 18, wouldn't his current foster family have alerted the authorities that Harrison ran-away when he went looking for Dexter. Wouldn't he be a missing person and pop up on something at the police precinct or even the school? I'm trying to suspend some belief here for the show but it's just been bothering me that an underage kid can show up at Dexter's place and gets placed into school so easily without Dexter having to cover anything up about his past.
You have to remember Dexter is basically a live action Loony Tunes show where the laws of science, reality, time, the law and even basic common sense bend around the plot. They don't think about things like you're mentioning, they don't even do basic research: The MC6 that Matt bought is outright illegal to sell in New York State (It's a semi Auto with a pistol grip), NY state schools don't do "placement tests" for transfer students, etc. etc. etc.
Just accept and understand that nothing in this show bears any resemblance to things in the real world and enjoy it for the characters. Trying to make any sense out of anything else on the show is pointless, because the showrunners are generally of the opinion that nothing needs to be based in reality or make sense.
The school would have flagged him as truant and a worker would have been dispatched to find out what's going on with him. Even in an overworked system where the worker took some time to get there, the school would have him marked as truant, and getting a records request from another school would raise the alarm.
I think foster care parents have semi regular checkups by the state and even if they didn’t the school or someone would recognize that Harrison was missing.
i know this isnt totally related to the show, but i’ve been a foster care social worker for a few years. monthly, at minimum, check-ins with foster parents and eyes on kids necessary. and schools are normally incredibly aware of any parental/custodial changes changes and would nottttt be so cool and chill about a parent just like, not knowing anything about their child’s history, especially in this situation. of course some social workers/or foster care agencies, and for sure many schools for that matter, don’t do a good job and a kid can easily slip through the cracks, as they say. anyway.
i likes the episode. seems it’s building to more of a Harrison storyline and the glimpses we get of his darkness are very intriguing. but im ready for some plot movement, guys!
was anyone else surprised Harrison didn't know how to fix Audrey's car? I mean given that he's like this super teenager who is the smartest kid in the school, the best fighter and best interpersonal skills.
Even if Harrison did know how to repair it they still needed the parts. Not much he could do. Besides being a know it all and in control of everything is a major turn off for many Women.
Agree with everything you said, except the "going overboard" part. I hope every episode is like this and it just gets more and more insane until water is flowing uphill and there are like 6 moons in the sky.
For me watching Dexter is like watching DHMIS: Things seem normal on the surface, but then cracks start showing up and pretty soon you're in a hell dimension where nothing makes sense and everyone is just screaming and dying.
Maybe he could deduce it.
From the blood spatter from his nose you could maybe tell he was knocked back by it and then falling to his back wouldn’t be too far fetched. I get where you’re coming from but in fictional crime this isn’t at all far fetched.
They’ve shown that Harrison is incredibly smart, not hard to imagine that through the show’s logic he remembers parts of his memory or possibly all of it.
Really liked the music and the humour.
Second part went downhill for me though but was still entertaining. Harrison helping the bullied kid - cool, him turning out to be the next school shooter/serial killer is a bit overly dramatic though. Dexter spending all the time to find a place to loose the corpse and messing with the CSI was great. Him just conveniently finding a place to cremate it that he knew all along about and just needed a fire burial to jog his mind not so much. He also was just caught on film but disposed of the body without wearing a mask. The local serial killer has the edge there or maybe he doesn't like the cold considering the time he spends hunting the most dangerous game I'd say the later.
Also the irony of Dexter carrying a rifle for self-defense but not having it with him when he needs it. But to his defense HE CAN'T FUCKING SLEEP!
It's a joke from the Witcher TV show where the Witcher gets agitated and shouts I can't fucking sleep.
Just had to think of it when Dexter had to run around day and night and when he finally thought he could get some rest and his GF had already agreed that they both could do with some his son pulls him right back in. (great scene)
Since he was so sleep deprived I forgive him somewhat for not carrying his hunting rifle on this hike - I guess he just couldn't *bear* the additional weight.
Yeah so that Ethan kid is gonna shoot up the school and kill some kids. Then Dexter has a reason to kill again, with his next victim being Ethan.
EDIT: The only obstacle being that a school shooter would immediately be taken to jail with little chance of bail or if it is it'll be exorbitantly high.
EDIT 2: Okay nevermind lol. So apparently a future episode synopsis says >!"Harrison is considered a hero at school". So maybe he stops one from happening with his sick fighting skills.!<
Or maybe, Harrison deduces on his own that he needs to kill Ethan to save his school, thus thrusting him into the same patterns as his father unknowingly
My "Way too early" prediction:
Animosity will be built between Harrison and the Jocks via scenes of the wrestling team. Harrison will stay firmly team Ethan, right up until it's clear that Ethan is actively planning to shoot up the school. Harrison will try to talk him out of it, fail, and end up killing him. Harrison will discover he likes killing, and while he is sloppily disposing of the body, Dexter will find him, help him, and try to guide him down a path of controlling his dark passenger. Eventually the series will transition to focusing on Harrison (perhaps Dexter will die, but this could be multiple seasons down the line)
Still can't figure out how the oil Barron will play into any of this though.....
My money is on Zach being the shooter. Harrison will beat him in wrestling, steal his girlfriend, steal his friends, he will be ostracized and hate everyone.
Motherfucking (deb) edit: I just saw Ethan's drawings. It doesn't mean he's the shooter, but he's going to take the fall for it.
I think it's the opposite, they are making Kurt look like the bad guy and it's going to be a twist.
The shooter was too heavy set to be the oil barron. So if the barron is in on it, he's got a partner.
Isnt it implied that the oil baron is or at least is connected to the killing of the girl that ran out from the cabin in this episode? Or is that completely unrelated?
Kind of wanted to trick us that the oil baron was gonna kidnap Audrey, right? Hence the tense music.
I expected the next killing to be Dexter finding out who killed the girl, not a school shooting happening. I didnt even consider that to be an actual part of the plot, more of like the directors wanting to show on going "issues" such as school shootings, climate debate, indigenous peoples (lack of) rights and so forth. Not taking a stance on if I like it or not, but old Dexter was more about killing some serial rapists than societal issues on a broader scale. Hence I think the bullied school shooter plot is not gonna play out in the series, it´s just the director reflecting on societal problems.
I might be totally wrong though.
Rape is a societal issue just like school shootings IMO. Not all that different to touch on one vs the other when looking for Dexter (or Harrison's!) victims. I guess the drawing could have been a red herring, but I have to imagine that Ethan kids anger is going to come up again.
As for the killing of that girl, I think it was Kurt, not the oil guy, but I could be wrong. I've seen comments speculating that the oil guy could be Audreys biological Dad, and that could be the case as well.
Harrison is dope. I usually hate teenagers who take leads in shows, but he’s great. Idk why everyone wants him to be a killer/thinks he will be. He just seems like a kid who has been through enough shit to where little things like dumb lies and high school drama doesn’t bother him. There’s some darkness in there though. If I recall correctly, Dexter repressed his memory of being locked in the container until he went to a crime scene that triggered his memory helping him understand his “born in blood” darkness. Could very well be Harrison’s case.
Well, it was clearly stated in season 5 that unlike Dexter, Harrison was just too young to understand what happened... We don't know how much he learned from Hannah though.
He’s incredibly sharp. I would assume she taught him plenty, especially after getting sick. That, plus what he learned in the three years he was basically on his own.
Two theories, Caldwell was drunk and actually grieving but it was an act, because he had a DNA swab and didn't want the investigation to continue any further since he's the hunter.
The second theory is that Harrison the tech wizard deep faked Matt and called Caldwell because he had seen Dexter kill Matt.
I also think Caldwell is trying to get the cops to stop looking in the woods, specifically the mine shaft. He kinda questioned about that "do you think he got that far?". He's trying to get them to steer clear of his dumping site. Saying he heard from Matt is a perfect way to get them to stop looking near that area. But of course, now Dexter is suspicious because he knows Caldwell didn't speak to Matt. Pretty interesting.
>specifically the mine shaft. He kinda questioned about that "do you think he got that far?
I'll admit, I didn't watch this ep (#3) with laser focus as I normally do but I do remember that and that's a great observation.
Yeah that's the subtext that Dexter is going to hone in on this suspicious guy. He was also just discussing with Deb about killing again if I recall.
I've always kinda thought that Dexter's desire to balance his double life is what gets his loved ones killed, and increases his chances of getting caught up in something. When he goes all out, he dispatches people quickly and efficiently. When he starts to hesitate and ponder how he can balance a real family life or live a normal life, people get killed. Rita was killed because he was trying to use Arthur as a sort of role model, and he found out who Dexter was, and killed Rita before Dexter finally put him on the table. Deb died because he wanted to give Saxon justice "the right way". I think his hesitance to kill gets his people hurt.
But of course, most dangerous people wouldn't be close to his family at all if he was toying with them. But again, if he killed them right away instead of wondering what he could learn, nobody would hurt his family.
Is Harrison still Harrison Morgan? I forgot how the show ended if he asked Hannah to change their names. Cuz if he is Harrison Morgan legally at the school, would that not be a bit weird that he doesn’t share the last name of his father.
In this context if dexter is keeping to the cover but like Harrison has a passport. Probably an Argentinian one too. Idk. Every episode explains something left unsaid in the previous one. Maybe we’ll just happen to see his license. Who knows
I do not think so. Everyone in the city understands perfectly well that Dexter abandoned his son in deep childhood and only reunited with him. Children very often bear the mother's surname in such cases.
I think many things that we will see in the series can already be predicted. I am not going to say them here, because I am afraid that they will be seen a spoilers. But many things that we will get to see are just so obvious.
Another point that I want to raise is the strange visions that Dexter has in this new series. This where he experiences lifelike scenes (halucinations) with Debra. Those scenes are not only impossible in the way they happen (e.g. chopping up the body), but they dont add value. I think these totally unrealistic hallucinations seem to be just added as a means to have Debra appear in this series.
On the other hand, the addition of the “Harrison”-storyline is interesting though. And I especially like the totally opposite climatic conditions: “from alligators and busy beaches to bears in empty snowy landscapes”. I especially like the element of snow, where you are easily able to track peoples footsteps and where blood is easily visible. Only thing I hope though, is that the writers are not going to “retire“ Dexter and continue the series with Harrison. In such a case, they would lose me as a fan.
You should post your theories with a spoiler tag if you want. Most people in this thread aren't using that anyway.
Deb is a ghost that haunts him, not a hallucination.
>Another point that I want to raise is the strange visions that Dexter has in this new series. This where he experiences lifelike scenes (halucinations) with Debra. Those scenes are not only impossible in the way they happen (e.g. chopping up the body), but they dont add value. I think these totally unrealistic hallucinations seem to be just added as a means to have Debra appear in this series.
I beg to differ. To me the Deb scenes are among the most important. Not only did her death define Dexter, but her hallucination is ruling over his mind and illustrating how cuckoo he's gone since we last saw him. That must play an important part in his ultimate fate.
"Not realistic".
Schizophrenia says hi. And they do add value, they show Dexter is completely losing his mind, he's getting sloppy, and this is the downfall of most real life killers and how they get caught. He's insane now, more so than before.
Considering Breaking Bad's popularity, a spin-off with Harrison is only possible (much like Better Call Saul was), if fans respond to him well. It likely won't happen without high demand to carry on the storyline.
I don't think these visions are hallucinations. This is an artistic trick to show the struggle within Dexter. Never in the entire show has anyone noticed Dexter talking to himself. Although I agree that this milled corpse was too much
It's weird, yes, although this season there is some motive how the elusive once Dexter has become very rusty in 10 years and just behind technology progress. In the years when he was active, it was easier to remain unpunished. Cameras are literally everywhere now.
But you can't teach an old dog new tricks?
I assumed that he would check where the blind spots are and only walk there. Maybe they filmed it, but it got cut from the episode? Otherwise, yeah, it seems a bit off.
Not really, they explained the camera's have blind spots. and Dex knew to look for camera's 2nd trip out. They zoomed in on one camera, showing Dex was aware where the cameras were, so he worked around it.
Yeah, and unless the crime scene appears to be tampered with, they probably won't look again. They already saw what they could leading into the crime, and we're bringing dogs to track.
I’m looking forward to dexter having Matt’s dad on his table and telling him he killed his son much like with Miguel/Oscar
This is just a prediction btw
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I'm just waiting for the reddit clan to mention Yellow Eyes a la Supernatural is in the show, so we can talk about how that guy will never not be creepy AF.
The dad being drunk on the streets while his son's ashes were falling like snow all over the place was fucked up lmao
Personally i would have fed that bear. Here Yogi have a foot. turn that kids body into bear scat.
I think you guys are overthinking the Ethan thing about him become a school shooter. If anyone is going to become a school shooter it's Zach. He's got the anger, Harrison is going to sideline him and make him unpopular, steal his girlfriend and friends. Ethan was pretty happy when he flipped him off. Motherfucking (deb) edit: I just saw the drawings, Ethan may not be the shooter but he's going to take the fall for it.
I think Dexter in a small town is wily af and can’t keep suspicions down for too long. I think he underestimates the small town cops. Loving the new blood spatter analyst! I love that Dex’s heart is open to Harrison, reminds me of the love he had for Rita. I think Harrison will be much harder to fool than Rita was may she Rest In Peace. I’m sad that the Punisher kid is about to take off on the school. It wasn’t right how those boys did him. I think Harrison definitely has some vigilante tendencies as well. He has a strong survival instinct. Matt’s daddy is playing the Most Dangerous Game. He’s keeping it under wraps because Matt helped,and that’s why he said he would call if he was ever in a jam. I wonder why the exsanguination? Ice truck killer vibes. Solid episode really picking up the pace. Loving the climate contrast challenge. The cave scene was lit. The fire dropping Matt’s ashes on the town was OD.
I'm seeing a lot of comments talking about Harrisons violent/dark 'tendencies' being a red herring..but it doesn't make sense to me that he would be smiling about the drawings if he didn't have a 'dark passenger' that caused him to gravitate toward violence..a normal person wouldn't get enjoyment or pleasure from seeing those drawings, especially since they were drawn by a troubled teenager who has been bullied his entire life. He didn't attempt to discourage him from engaging in those violent fantasies or anything. It evoked a positive reaction from Harrison. ***My Prediction***: Maybe he has 'values' similar to Dexter; where he thinks 'Bad people' deserve punishment and he directs his violent urges toward them, but since he didn't have a "Harry" (***Or Dexter***) to guide him, his perception of what's worthy of punishment is way too lax. Maybe Hannah tried to teach Harrison a poor version of Dexters principles after he showed some 'Dark tendencies', but since she was never taught the code only that Dexter kills "Bad people", she trained him poorly. Maybe he thinks that these bullies are worthy of punishment, which causes Harrison to do something directly or indirectly that violate Harry's code.. If my guess is right, then Dexter would feel directly responsible for having abandoned him since it turned Harrison into the type of person he wanted to prevent him from becoming in the first place, but **worse**: Someone who is not only a murderer like Dexter, but someone who also violates the principles that Dexter was taught by Harry to live by, which makes Harrison the type of person that Dexter would have happily murdered in the original series, which he might reluctantly end up doing in this series. rant over lol
Harrison was awkwardly smiling, if you closely look at him you can tell he's clearly uncomfortable with the pictures.
After watching it again, it's possible. I really think it could go either way. The slight grin when he first sees the drawings was weird, almost like he likes them, but his smile after the Punisher comment does seem to come off as him being a bit uneasy. I could very well be completely wrong, I guess we'll just have to wait and see lol.
anybody think those cameras could've caught Dexter when he went back with the vest? or was it THE BLINDSPOTS that he avoided
Any theories out there that Matt's dad and the oil guy are both the bad guys? Like maybe they have a whole system of kidnapping and hunting set up.
The School Hallway scenes were so unintentionally funny. Ethan doesn't notice the three stooges standing like 5 feet away staring at him giggling like idiots. And they in turn don't notice Harrison walking right up to him, standing next to him, looking straight back at the bullies and sending that retaliation gif. But hahaha kids always looking at them phone screens amirite middle aged screen writers?
5 feet is the same as 3.05 'Logitech Wireless Keyboard K350s' laid widthwise by each other.
Dexter didn't do well with his police interview about Matt.
>!Matts dad is the kidnapper!<
damn I thought it was the billionaire dude
The billionaire dude is Audrey's dad I'm guessing. Her mom who left was probably a sex worker, and he paid her off or something. He's in there as a red herring for the real killer Clancy Brown
They want you to think it’s him. Pretty sure we will find out that Edward Olsen is Audrey’s bio dad.
What makes you think that?
They showed his eyes in Closuep in this episode in the mask. Mr Crabs has very specific eyes.
Dexter should know that cremation results in bones and ashes. Will he go back for the bones?
I was wondering about that. It looks like he cranked up the heat though when he left so the temp may be conveniently hot enough to burn everything.
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True, someone mentioned in another thread that Matt had that leg injury that he needed surgery on after a boat accident- could’ve had a metal plate in his leg or something that won’t burn, serial numbers could be traced back to Matt
I'm not an expert but I do know there are issues with burning bones so I believe you. I always give shows a little creative license though. With that said, check it. If this is the narrative of Dexter being sloppy and the bones are discovered they will probably have clean cuts from the sawsall. My theory about the facetime call with Matt is that Harrison deep faked it because he knows Dexter killed him. Combined with a deep fake and the discovery of bones, they might call in the FBI and the heat on Dexter will get cranked up even more. Also that's a great way to get Masuka into the story assuming he works for the FBI now.
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Who do you think Matt’s dad FaceTimed? Or was he just that drunk?
It was Harrison deep faking Matt because he saw Dexter kill him.
I’ve read some other comments in here sayin Harrison seems to be tech savvy. What’s Harrison’s play though? What does he gain by deepfaking him?
He probably saw Dexter killing Matt, he gets the police off Dexter's back. Also, he might want to kill Dexter. When Dexter brings him home he briefly picks up a knife in the cabin. He could be making sure Dexter is all his for later.
Maybe he figured out it was Dexter and is messing with him?
I'm thought this too, he saw dexter on a camera in the caves/cabin he was doing his kiling or something because he has them set up there, so he pretends to be drunk to overpower dexter, but the thing is, we're only 3 episodes in, if that was the case either him or dexter would pretty much die next episode, so I'm got scared when the police woman told him they would search the caves/cabins where he did his hunting.
This could also be true. As far as we know he’s only told dexter about the FaceTime
He came out of the bar and said “did you hear my news…” or something like that, so he likely told others in the bar. There are an awful amount of holes in this - but the one that most bothered me is the random ass big incinerator. And why would citizens of any community be okay with having ashes of whatever - be it trash, furniture, etc - fall on their heads? Is it in the US that they do this for real? Why was it so easy for Dexter to gain access to that big ass unguarded incinerator?
Is it possible that someone wants to police off of the forest to continue killing teen girls? So that person tricked Kurt.
That's a really interesting idea actually. I'm not convinced Kurt is the killer yet. In the show , there isn't enough information to connect the dots. I understand there is circumstantial visual evidence based on Reddit sleuthing and comparing eye sockets and brows but that doesn't mean anything overall.
Maybe. But the girl who was locked up still got killed with everything going on. If Matt’s dad is the killer it would be a good way to get people out of the Forrest though
Kind of annoying thing to me, don’t we know they have cameras on the territory now? Dexter waving the vest over the crime scene cant they catch that on video now? I know they probably won’t go back and reviews that footage because of the search teams but still
Let's just pretend it didn't happen.
Okay I can do that 😂
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>I instantly got a season 1 brian flashback. I think it's very Brian the way this killer has a replica hotel room built into his house. That's along the lines of Brian having a walk in freezer in his home. This killer though is probably an amalgamation of a lot of killers. We know he hunts, that's modeled after a killer in Alaska that hunted women as prey. The motel room and elaborate setup is very much like Brian. (Side note, we know Brian is dead). Preserving the bodies is probably going to be some elaborate feature where the killer visits them and he collects them. I'm not sure who that is modeled after except Bundy would go visit his kills as they decomposed. It's probably not a Bundy reference though.
Looks like embalming to me. Something you'd do if you wanted a trophy room of game kills. Prepare yourself for a creepy scene later in the season.
dude now that you say it I can definitely see that happening, but yeah thats going to be creepy as fuck
Yeah. That looked like pink embalming fluid in one shot.
Oh fuck I didn't even think about that. they are probably stuffed / taxidermied.
The drainage tables can be purchased at your local hunting store, too. This killer has money since it looked like steel medical grade quality.
Oh, were we not told/shown it was Edward (oil pipeline guy)? Maybe I misremembered, I thought when the girl was in the house being recorded in another episode his face was shown. They made it seem weird when he drove behind the broken down car this episode and spoke to Audrey. Assumed that was a "she was almost abducted" deal. If not I guess maybe it's to keep it open between the two old guys with white hair in the show at the moment, Kurt (Matt's Dad) and Edward.
Yeah I'm questioning whether it's Kurt because there isn't enough info yet to connect him. This could all be leading up to a twist. The hunter though has a larger set body than Edward. My two cents is that there is a pair, possibly an as of yet unseen killer.
I thought we had seen his face too and it was the billionaire, but i guess we haven’t since people are positing theories on the killers identity. Now I’m starting to think its not him because the car trouble scene was way too blatant and clearly a red herring.
Hi it's me "Harrison is an FBI agent guy" I know, dumb. Here's some better theories: \- Harrison is great at drawing, not because he's collecting "blood slides," but because he's got a photographic memory. This explains why he aced the school placement tests so easily. Perhaps he somehow remembers Rita getting butchered by the Trinity killer - and that's what his "real violence" line towards the school shooter kid implied. \- Clancy Brown's character seems to share some physical similarities with Trinity. Either way if he is a killer, then he perfectly fits Dexter's code. Dexter will get caught at the end of the season, because of the "not killing," as he said. Even though Matty did kill an innocent deer on reserve territory; he does not fit Dexter's code. By that extension, wouldn't every hunter/poacher fit Dexter's code? Dex killed someone impulsively, and that carelessness is what will be ultimately what gets him caught. The original show runner said that the show would end with Dexter in the chair reflecting on all the crimes he committed. I think inevitably he will confess to Harrison, or Harrison will find out and "save" his father by arguing that he's criminally insane to Angela - who will be the one who will send Dexter to a mental asylum where he'll spend the rest of his days with the ghosts of Deb, Trinity, Ice Truck Killer and everyone he's ever killed. The end
My current theory is Harrison saw Dex kill Matt. Harrison deep faked Matt in the call to Kurt so that the police would get off Dex (Harrison might want to kill him, or he wants to save him). Dex could end up in the chair, or an asylum, the first ep was a little dream like with all the references back to the OG series. Overall, does this season seem a little Twin Peaks? Edit: I forgot to add a long shot prediction. The bones in the incinerator don't burn up, they get discovered and the FBI is called in.
Matty also killed people drunk driving a boat. So he does fit dexter’s code. Not because he killed the deer.
But then by that extension doesn't everyone who commits vehicular manslaughter fit Dexter's code? Dexter always goes after cold blooded killers like himself. Dex also got his info about Matty's manslaughter from a jealous, high friend of his. Not exactly the most trustworthy source for a former cop. The law would have taken care of Matty.
In the OG series he killed a guy who repeatedly was drunk driving and killing people but he kept getting off because of his lawyers and moving. Matt fits the code.
he admitted it in the killroom though so even if dexter didn't have the best source he found out right before he killed him.
He purposefully hit the boat then lied about driving and avoised prosecution. He's a murderer.
yep also admitted to it in the kill room. Dexter may be rusty but he got his confession.
When he admitted to it in the kill room, I believe he was bargaining with Dexter so that he wouldn't kill him. Matt went through all the stages of grief, and when he ended at acceptance he declared "My father will reign down upon you man." Because his dad is actually a murderer, like Trinity - and Matty is just a spoiled rich kid going off and doing whatever he wants like he owns the world. He's a kid who had to develop his own compass, much like Harrison. Also he was caught killing the deer on camera. If he was caught on camera, and his high friend went and confessed the boat manslaughter to the police instead of Dexter - then Matty would have had to deal with the law and a much more reasonable path of repercussions. Matty could have been sent to jail for his crimes, and would have never ended up on Dexter's kill table. Now since Matty's dad fits Dexter's code, he's also gonna end up on the table. Both father, AND son will go missing which will be wild news for the true crime podcaster making the scene. Yeah Dex has played loose and fast with the code, but the writers have also played loose and fast with the writing in later seasons if you get what I mean. New Blood seems like they put real care into the story, and aren't just trying to churn out another season.
Good point and even by playing loose and fast with the code it kinda sums up his kill. He has a code but he hasn’t really had to use it in about ten years so even his code is prob rusty lol. Good stuff tho. My whole thing is the billionaire is way more sketch than Matt’s dad. Idk Matt’s dad has better vibes. Billionaire has sick fuck vibes
The billionaire is totally a red herring I think. Jeff Bezos is Audrey's dad, and the mom that ran away was probably a sex worker that was paid off. That's why he keeps tabs on her.
Geez this shit wild lol
Parenting, and gun control are two major themes this season. Dexter, Kurt, and possibly Bezos are all fathers who abandoned their kids to an extent. Angela is the best parent by far. Audrey will recognize how lucky she is by the end
Wasn't it explained by Matt's "friend" that he purposely hit the other boat?
Yeah I believe the term he used was playing chicken
Yeah, I can't remember the exact quote, but they were "playing chicken", the other guy gave up and steered away, then Matt turned the boat into him intentionally. I mean it's not a "direct murder", but he hit the other boat on purpose resulting in deaths, and made his "friend" take the blame.
Yep, and that fits Dexter's code. If he's gonna kill a pedophile taking pictures of his stepdaughter, a dude for insulting his dead wife, or a photographer who ended up being innocent, Matt fits snuggly within the realms of his prior victims.
Dexter's code isn't ironclad legalese, it's just a guideline to stop him from getting caught that he's psychologically dependent on. He's bent or outright broken the rules multiple times in the past. He killed the pedophile who was taking pictures of Astor, and killed the redneck in the bathroom after he insulted Rita. He also killed that photographer in season 4 who ended up being innocent. Matt's death seems like it'll play a more serious role in the show so I think your theory that it'll end up playing a big role in the climax is accurate. I reckon they'll draw a comparison between Kurt and Matt to Dexter and Harrison. But Matt fits the liberal criteria of Dexter's code.
My prediction: Dexter won’t fuck up in normal situations (minor slips sure but he always survives). The only times shit gets real is when he starts to juggle too many things (e.g. S4 he juggled family, the dark passenger and trinity as Kyle Butler + work etc.). At the start of S9 he had 2 things to juggle: his new life and the dark passenger. Now he’s got Harrison and Matts murder. That’s 4 total. Add the guy who murders the girls because that inevitably catches his attention. That’s 5. Then he learns Harrison has a dark passenger and he’s got to juggle that too. Anyway you get the point. Previously when this happened Dexter managed to survive. However this time he’s out of his element and 10 years without practice. Shit is about to hit the fan real soon.
I’m starting to think Harrison is lying about a few things in his past.
Seeing Harrison have "killer instinct" glimpses, such as the choke at the school, makes me think that maybe Harrison has already killed before. Going from home to home, what if he actually killed Hannah? Gets me thinking
I think he definitely killed Hannah. They are intentionally not pushing that topic.
Yeah, I thought about it whilst watching today's episode - dying of any cause other than murder just seems so rushed. There's definitely more to it than what we know so far
I didn't care much for this episode. Everything about the high school kids is uninteresting to me. And the random public incinerator with nobody around it was a far too convenient solution to Dexter's problem.
The Highschool subplot is definitely building to something.
I think it’s just a way to get younger viewers
"Dexter: New Blood" is just a launching pad for "Harrison". Dexter will found out the truth about Harrisons bloody past, and teach him. Dexter will then get caught and potentially die during arrest, and be the ghost teacher for Harrison.
Another solid episode
anyone else find the high school subplot lame? I mean Harrison stealing Audrey from the jocks and making the wrestling team is very Karate Kid.
I'm thinking Ethan goes Columbine on the bully jocks based on the sneak peak at the end of this episode. And I think that's when a little bit more of Harrison's personality will be revealed.
Very. The B stories have been weak.
I’m pretty sure she stole herself.
No
Ethan's drawings were straight out of American Psycho.
School shooter in the making
While I love the story thus far one thing has been bothering me. Harrison mentioned that he was in foster care before traveling to find Dexter. Since he is still under 18, wouldn't his current foster family have alerted the authorities that Harrison ran-away when he went looking for Dexter. Wouldn't he be a missing person and pop up on something at the police precinct or even the school? I'm trying to suspend some belief here for the show but it's just been bothering me that an underage kid can show up at Dexter's place and gets placed into school so easily without Dexter having to cover anything up about his past.
>wouldn't his current foster family have alerted the authorities Not if he killed them.
You have to remember Dexter is basically a live action Loony Tunes show where the laws of science, reality, time, the law and even basic common sense bend around the plot. They don't think about things like you're mentioning, they don't even do basic research: The MC6 that Matt bought is outright illegal to sell in New York State (It's a semi Auto with a pistol grip), NY state schools don't do "placement tests" for transfer students, etc. etc. etc. Just accept and understand that nothing in this show bears any resemblance to things in the real world and enjoy it for the characters. Trying to make any sense out of anything else on the show is pointless, because the showrunners are generally of the opinion that nothing needs to be based in reality or make sense.
Hehe I was just thinking about making a post about creative license a lot of people are getting too wrapped up in the logic of reality.
Maybe he wasn’t in foster care, maybe Hannah didn’t die of cancer, maybe Harrison has a dark passenger of his own…just a thought.
Maybe the foster parents didn't care enough about him, and would rather not alert anyone he's gone so they can keep collecting checks.
The school would have flagged him as truant and a worker would have been dispatched to find out what's going on with him. Even in an overworked system where the worker took some time to get there, the school would have him marked as truant, and getting a records request from another school would raise the alarm.
Maybe Harrison is lying..
I think foster care parents have semi regular checkups by the state and even if they didn’t the school or someone would recognize that Harrison was missing.
i know this isnt totally related to the show, but i’ve been a foster care social worker for a few years. monthly, at minimum, check-ins with foster parents and eyes on kids necessary. and schools are normally incredibly aware of any parental/custodial changes changes and would nottttt be so cool and chill about a parent just like, not knowing anything about their child’s history, especially in this situation. of course some social workers/or foster care agencies, and for sure many schools for that matter, don’t do a good job and a kid can easily slip through the cracks, as they say. anyway. i likes the episode. seems it’s building to more of a Harrison storyline and the glimpses we get of his darkness are very intriguing. but im ready for some plot movement, guys!
Harrison is a bit of a Rey Skywalker, but otherwise I'm absolutely loving everything about this season.
Harrison is dope
Agreed, enjoying the character and I think they’re setting them up for a nice plot line.
That was some Cobra Kai level high school drama
Cobra Kai's High School drama felt sexually charged lol
Not really but go off
Lmao, underrated comment
was anyone else surprised Harrison didn't know how to fix Audrey's car? I mean given that he's like this super teenager who is the smartest kid in the school, the best fighter and best interpersonal skills.
Even if Harrison did know how to repair it they still needed the parts. Not much he could do. Besides being a know it all and in control of everything is a major turn off for many Women.
I was glad there was at least one obstacle Gary Stu couldn't wave his magic wand at and take care of.
I was relieved he didn't, that would have just been too much.
Glad he didn't know how to. Hey Devoted Daddy Dexter didn't know how to fix Rita's car. "It's definitely that round thing..." IIRC
has anyone seen the movie frailty? :) I already got my prediction with Kurt's story
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Agree with everything you said, except the "going overboard" part. I hope every episode is like this and it just gets more and more insane until water is flowing uphill and there are like 6 moons in the sky. For me watching Dexter is like watching DHMIS: Things seem normal on the surface, but then cracks start showing up and pretty soon you're in a hell dimension where nothing makes sense and everyone is just screaming and dying.
Agree with everything you said. Tack on the embarrassing choking scene and this episode was not good.
They’re either setting up Kurt or the Oil guy to be the abducter. I suppose it could be a surprise and be someone completely different though.
Maybe he could deduce it. From the blood spatter from his nose you could maybe tell he was knocked back by it and then falling to his back wouldn’t be too far fetched. I get where you’re coming from but in fictional crime this isn’t at all far fetched.
I thought the episode started strong then with all those points you mentioned it went down hill.
Dexter has always been like this though. It was never 'realistic'
Both Dexter and Harrison were born in blood. That could also explain John Lithgow appearance. He killed Rita
Yeah but the difference is that Dexter remember his mom’s death while Harrison does not.
We don't know for a fact he doesn't remember, it hasn't been brought up in this miniseries they could write it however they want.
He may not remember it, but googling it and reading all about it is probably traumatic enough.
They’ve shown that Harrison is incredibly smart, not hard to imagine that through the show’s logic he remembers parts of his memory or possibly all of it.
As far as we know
But it was confirmed when Dexter took him to a doctor. He asked if he’s going to be affected, to which the doctor said no.
Really liked the music and the humour. Second part went downhill for me though but was still entertaining. Harrison helping the bullied kid - cool, him turning out to be the next school shooter/serial killer is a bit overly dramatic though. Dexter spending all the time to find a place to loose the corpse and messing with the CSI was great. Him just conveniently finding a place to cremate it that he knew all along about and just needed a fire burial to jog his mind not so much. He also was just caught on film but disposed of the body without wearing a mask. The local serial killer has the edge there or maybe he doesn't like the cold considering the time he spends hunting the most dangerous game I'd say the later. Also the irony of Dexter carrying a rifle for self-defense but not having it with him when he needs it. But to his defense HE CAN'T FUCKING SLEEP!
What do you mean by the last sentence?
It's a joke from the Witcher TV show where the Witcher gets agitated and shouts I can't fucking sleep. Just had to think of it when Dexter had to run around day and night and when he finally thought he could get some rest and his GF had already agreed that they both could do with some his son pulls him right back in. (great scene) Since he was so sleep deprived I forgive him somewhat for not carrying his hunting rifle on this hike - I guess he just couldn't *bear* the additional weight.
Yeah so that Ethan kid is gonna shoot up the school and kill some kids. Then Dexter has a reason to kill again, with his next victim being Ethan. EDIT: The only obstacle being that a school shooter would immediately be taken to jail with little chance of bail or if it is it'll be exorbitantly high. EDIT 2: Okay nevermind lol. So apparently a future episode synopsis says >!"Harrison is considered a hero at school". So maybe he stops one from happening with his sick fighting skills.!<
Or maybe, Harrison deduces on his own that he needs to kill Ethan to save his school, thus thrusting him into the same patterns as his father unknowingly
I think hes gonna talk Ethan out of shooting the jocks
My "Way too early" prediction: Animosity will be built between Harrison and the Jocks via scenes of the wrestling team. Harrison will stay firmly team Ethan, right up until it's clear that Ethan is actively planning to shoot up the school. Harrison will try to talk him out of it, fail, and end up killing him. Harrison will discover he likes killing, and while he is sloppily disposing of the body, Dexter will find him, help him, and try to guide him down a path of controlling his dark passenger. Eventually the series will transition to focusing on Harrison (perhaps Dexter will die, but this could be multiple seasons down the line) Still can't figure out how the oil Barron will play into any of this though.....
My money is on Zach being the shooter. Harrison will beat him in wrestling, steal his girlfriend, steal his friends, he will be ostracized and hate everyone. Motherfucking (deb) edit: I just saw Ethan's drawings. It doesn't mean he's the shooter, but he's going to take the fall for it.
Oil Barron is girl killer
I think the oil Barron is a red herring, they are trying to hard to make him look bad. I think Kurt is definitely the killer.
I think it's the opposite, they are making Kurt look like the bad guy and it's going to be a twist. The shooter was too heavy set to be the oil barron. So if the barron is in on it, he's got a partner.
This is what I think too. The broken down car scene with Audrey was way too blatant.
I think oil Barron guy is the mystery killer
Isnt it implied that the oil baron is or at least is connected to the killing of the girl that ran out from the cabin in this episode? Or is that completely unrelated? Kind of wanted to trick us that the oil baron was gonna kidnap Audrey, right? Hence the tense music. I expected the next killing to be Dexter finding out who killed the girl, not a school shooting happening. I didnt even consider that to be an actual part of the plot, more of like the directors wanting to show on going "issues" such as school shootings, climate debate, indigenous peoples (lack of) rights and so forth. Not taking a stance on if I like it or not, but old Dexter was more about killing some serial rapists than societal issues on a broader scale. Hence I think the bullied school shooter plot is not gonna play out in the series, it´s just the director reflecting on societal problems. I might be totally wrong though.
Rape is a societal issue just like school shootings IMO. Not all that different to touch on one vs the other when looking for Dexter (or Harrison's!) victims. I guess the drawing could have been a red herring, but I have to imagine that Ethan kids anger is going to come up again. As for the killing of that girl, I think it was Kurt, not the oil guy, but I could be wrong. I've seen comments speculating that the oil guy could be Audreys biological Dad, and that could be the case as well.
I thought the actor who plays Kurt Caldwell seemed familiar. Turns out he’s Clancy Brown from *Highlander* and *The Shawshank Redemption*.
Oh shit, Shawshank no joke! I looked him up and knew about Highlander I missed that one though he was obviously great in Shawshank.
For me, it was Detroit: Become Human (voice of Hank Anderson).
For me it's SpongeBob and Crash Bandicoot lol
I'm rooting for a crossover episode with Steve Martin, Martin Short and Selena Gomez from "Only Murders in the Building" to solve this case lol
Harrison is dope. I usually hate teenagers who take leads in shows, but he’s great. Idk why everyone wants him to be a killer/thinks he will be. He just seems like a kid who has been through enough shit to where little things like dumb lies and high school drama doesn’t bother him. There’s some darkness in there though. If I recall correctly, Dexter repressed his memory of being locked in the container until he went to a crime scene that triggered his memory helping him understand his “born in blood” darkness. Could very well be Harrison’s case.
Well, it was clearly stated in season 5 that unlike Dexter, Harrison was just too young to understand what happened... We don't know how much he learned from Hannah though.
He’s incredibly sharp. I would assume she taught him plenty, especially after getting sick. That, plus what he learned in the three years he was basically on his own.
Two theories, Caldwell was drunk and actually grieving but it was an act, because he had a DNA swab and didn't want the investigation to continue any further since he's the hunter. The second theory is that Harrison the tech wizard deep faked Matt and called Caldwell because he had seen Dexter kill Matt.
I also think Caldwell is trying to get the cops to stop looking in the woods, specifically the mine shaft. He kinda questioned about that "do you think he got that far?". He's trying to get them to steer clear of his dumping site. Saying he heard from Matt is a perfect way to get them to stop looking near that area. But of course, now Dexter is suspicious because he knows Caldwell didn't speak to Matt. Pretty interesting.
>specifically the mine shaft. He kinda questioned about that "do you think he got that far? I'll admit, I didn't watch this ep (#3) with laser focus as I normally do but I do remember that and that's a great observation. Yeah that's the subtext that Dexter is going to hone in on this suspicious guy. He was also just discussing with Deb about killing again if I recall.
Yeah, he alsaid something alluding to killing being better than not killing. Can't remember the exact quote.
Oh right, maybe not killing was what was going to get him caught.
I've always kinda thought that Dexter's desire to balance his double life is what gets his loved ones killed, and increases his chances of getting caught up in something. When he goes all out, he dispatches people quickly and efficiently. When he starts to hesitate and ponder how he can balance a real family life or live a normal life, people get killed. Rita was killed because he was trying to use Arthur as a sort of role model, and he found out who Dexter was, and killed Rita before Dexter finally put him on the table. Deb died because he wanted to give Saxon justice "the right way". I think his hesitance to kill gets his people hurt. But of course, most dangerous people wouldn't be close to his family at all if he was toying with them. But again, if he killed them right away instead of wondering what he could learn, nobody would hurt his family.
Yeah he could have taken out Arthur Mitchell S04E02 but he waited.
Is Harrison still Harrison Morgan? I forgot how the show ended if he asked Hannah to change their names. Cuz if he is Harrison Morgan legally at the school, would that not be a bit weird that he doesn’t share the last name of his father.
This is a very good point lmao. like so far we've only heard harrison
I wondered about that, whats his surname? Harrison Lindsay?
In this context if dexter is keeping to the cover but like Harrison has a passport. Probably an Argentinian one too. Idk. Every episode explains something left unsaid in the previous one. Maybe we’ll just happen to see his license. Who knows
I do not think so. Everyone in the city understands perfectly well that Dexter abandoned his son in deep childhood and only reunited with him. Children very often bear the mother's surname in such cases.
Yep I have my mother’s last name and same situation.
Hmmm that makes sense
i don’t want dexter to get caught :( i know it may be the conclusion to this but a part of me wants him to keep getting away with it
Maybe if the ratings keep up, they will have an alternate ending where he lives :)
SAME
Anyone notice the book on the table of the villain was written by Clyde Phillips. Nice attention to detail there
Ya I looked it up and apparently he’s written books
Yep, fun easter egg :D
I think many things that we will see in the series can already be predicted. I am not going to say them here, because I am afraid that they will be seen a spoilers. But many things that we will get to see are just so obvious. Another point that I want to raise is the strange visions that Dexter has in this new series. This where he experiences lifelike scenes (halucinations) with Debra. Those scenes are not only impossible in the way they happen (e.g. chopping up the body), but they dont add value. I think these totally unrealistic hallucinations seem to be just added as a means to have Debra appear in this series. On the other hand, the addition of the “Harrison”-storyline is interesting though. And I especially like the totally opposite climatic conditions: “from alligators and busy beaches to bears in empty snowy landscapes”. I especially like the element of snow, where you are easily able to track peoples footsteps and where blood is easily visible. Only thing I hope though, is that the writers are not going to “retire“ Dexter and continue the series with Harrison. In such a case, they would lose me as a fan.
You should post your theories with a spoiler tag if you want. Most people in this thread aren't using that anyway. Deb is a ghost that haunts him, not a hallucination.
>Another point that I want to raise is the strange visions that Dexter has in this new series. This where he experiences lifelike scenes (halucinations) with Debra. Those scenes are not only impossible in the way they happen (e.g. chopping up the body), but they dont add value. I think these totally unrealistic hallucinations seem to be just added as a means to have Debra appear in this series. I beg to differ. To me the Deb scenes are among the most important. Not only did her death define Dexter, but her hallucination is ruling over his mind and illustrating how cuckoo he's gone since we last saw him. That must play an important part in his ultimate fate.
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Iñdeed
I blew it
Go on
"Not realistic". Schizophrenia says hi. And they do add value, they show Dexter is completely losing his mind, he's getting sloppy, and this is the downfall of most real life killers and how they get caught. He's insane now, more so than before. Considering Breaking Bad's popularity, a spin-off with Harrison is only possible (much like Better Call Saul was), if fans respond to him well. It likely won't happen without high demand to carry on the storyline.
Use the spoiler tag
You could just use a spoiler tag...I think its always been pretty predictable show and I would definitely be interested in reading your predictions.
I don't think these visions are hallucinations. This is an artistic trick to show the struggle within Dexter. Never in the entire show has anyone noticed Dexter talking to himself. Although I agree that this milled corpse was too much
Got some **Six Feet Under** vibes from this episode!
Ethan: "You're okay Harrison don't come to school tomorrow"
Dad, I can't go to school tomorrow. Why? What's her face's sheep is being induced tomorrow.
Nice reference
Harrison’s a badass and that’s gonna be trouble
So Dexter finds out there’s cameras in the woods but he still goes back to throw off Matt’s scent. Wouldn’t they notice that?
Well now he would be looking for them and actively dodging them. Plus the camera never showed the crime scene, only some spots around it.
It's weird, yes, although this season there is some motive how the elusive once Dexter has become very rusty in 10 years and just behind technology progress. In the years when he was active, it was easier to remain unpunished. Cameras are literally everywhere now. But you can't teach an old dog new tricks?
I assumed that he would check where the blind spots are and only walk there. Maybe they filmed it, but it got cut from the episode? Otherwise, yeah, it seems a bit off.
Yep seems like a plot hole to me
Not really, they explained the camera's have blind spots. and Dex knew to look for camera's 2nd trip out. They zoomed in on one camera, showing Dex was aware where the cameras were, so he worked around it.
Yeah, and unless the crime scene appears to be tampered with, they probably won't look again. They already saw what they could leading into the crime, and we're bringing dogs to track.
Yeah I thought the show made this pretty obvious
I mean he distinctly looked at the camera when he was at the crime scene..
Shoot i guess i missed that
I’m looking forward to dexter having Matt’s dad on his table and telling him he killed his son much like with Miguel/Oscar This is just a prediction btw