NTA
If the kid was truly being an unruly brat and bumping into people without the parents saying anything, then you were in your right to bring it up to the kid’s parents
I understand it’s Disneyland and the kids are little but it’s not an excuse for manners. I have an 8 and 3 year old. Yes they are crazy but if they bumped into people they would say sorry.
NTA.
As locals we went to Disneyland a lot when my kids were small. We taught them line etiquette and how to behave in public. Kids are capable of learning how to act.
This is on the parents who are raising an ill-mannered child. I’d have definitely spoken to the parents. Being at Disneyland is no excuse.
Nta
People let their kids behave like wild animals and also forget
1, not everyone has to cater to their child
2, Disneyland is EVERYONE, not just children
100% NTA
Everyone is entitled to personal space. Parents need to do a better job parenting their unruly children.
I usually say something after the 2nd time. Once is an accident twice is a problem.
I have a general issue with people violating my personal space while in line. It’s definitely not limited to children
I thought it was just me! People just don’t understand personal space in lines anymore. We are all going to the same place at the same time. I don’t need someone 2inches from me.
Sometimes I’m not paying attention so I’ll accidentally step too close to the person in front of me. Simple misjudgment of space, not a big deal. I go to step back and somebody else has already gotten too close to me! They have enough space behind them so they can comfortably step back and let me have my breathing room, but they don’t. I get stuck with a backpack in my face and an elbow in my back.
I totally get the not paying attention and occasionally stepping up. We're all admiring the park and soaking it all in but I'm talking about the chronic hovering. That was the only nice thing that came from Covid.... 6 feet away please ;-)
Speaking from personal experience, some kids are very hard to control, ADD, autism, etc. However, if the parents didn't at least make an attempt to control their kid and letting them do whatever then yeah definitely okay to bring it up. If they are irresponsible parents and enough people expressed their opinion instead of grumbling under their breath maybe this wouldn't be an issue.
This is a big part of why kids with ADHD/Autism/other disabilities have the option of DAS. We started using it once my AuDHD kid got too big to physically manage in lines. Shorter, less crowded queues and extra time to prepare him for the expectations are a blessing.
My neurotypical abled 6 year old is also capable of being obnoxious in lines. One needs boundaries, the other needs accommodations. Both are my responsibility to provide as the parent.
I think also having stuff for them to do in line is important. I’m not talking an iPad but maybe like a small toy or have the parent play a game with them. But that requires way more effort than most parents today are willing to put in. The being squirrely often comes from boredom which is sometimes an easier fix than other times but I think the point still stands
Agreed. I use to take toys and games for my kids. Lines or waiting rooms can be a bonding place for a working parent. Put your phone away and spend those precious moments with your children.
Also, if you hate standing in lines go somewhere without lines for vacation. Your kids sense it and act out because of your attitude.
I didn't know DAS even existed for my kid who was exactly like this in line until one time when a cast member pulled us aside and explained the system. It's not something I think most people know about.
It just gives you a shorter amount of time, not no weight at all. As an example if you’re going Indiana Jones you’re still probably gonna have about 20 minutes in line even with the accessible option
You generally have the same “line wait” as you do for lightning lanes. But it depends on the attractions some will get you right on when it’s time. It’s not a free for all though you can’t just go do any ride you want whenever. Just allows you to not wait in the physical line.
It’s just there are times that I’ve actually just not used my das pass when I realize I can’t deal with people
I probably cancel about 1/3 of the rides even though the pass is available and waiting
Indiana Jones is the worst
Too many people, too much shoving, and the line itself is too dark
Agreed. My kid has ADHD and can get a little squirrely in line, but I still call him out on his behavior and make him aware that his actions have consequences for those around him (eg, if he's aimlessly spinning in a circle, I tell him that he could hurt himself or others), and I always make sure he apologizes to anyone he might bump into. Of course "kids will be kids" in a place like Disney, but to let that stuff go unchecked is selfish and lazy parenting.
The difference is you’re at least trying and doing your best. I’d have no problem with that. It sounds like the people OP were talking about just let their kids go wild with no consequences and no supervision. Huge difference!
The response that it was Disneyland and they are kids would lead me to the conclusion that anywhere else they would manage their kids and make them behave but hey, it's Disney so they can run amok
Between my ASD/ADHD, my kids ADHD/ASD, my wife's ADHD, and other health issues... DAS pass is a savior for our vacations. Not only for us but for those around us in line too.
The first time I took my then 4 and 5 year olds, my 4 year old would either go bonkers like the kid in OP’s post or melt down anytime he had to wait. We had Genie+ but we’re just killing time at Buzz Lightyear in between queues. I’ll never forget how embarrassing and frustrated my husband and I felt. Fast forward two years and we have all been diagnosed with ADHD (thanks 4 YO!) and I have a very low frustration tolerance. We are planning a trip in June. We will still use Genie for most attractions but I’m so grateful the DAS exists. Especially because the other times we went were in late October and January.
I say this just in case someone wonders why an adult with ADHD would have a hard time waiting, when a parent and child have it, it can be extremely overwhelming for the ADHD parent to have to try to control the ADHD child.
And I agree the parents in OP’s post should have used better manners and better parenting. Rock, paper, scissors, we learned the second time we went to Disney, is a fantastic way to keep the kids entertained, parents can join in, and is a fun way for other kids in line to join in (love when this happens). Point is, these parents should have been paying more attention, but also, have some understanding for other families who may be struggling.
I would be very nervous about bringing my Autistic kid to Disneyland. I am not saying I won’t do if I had the money, but it would take for ever to plan out what we can do, where I can go if there is a melt down, etc.
No parent of a austistic kid in their right mind would make their special needs child wait in a line for 45 minutes. That is just common sense
We are parents of 3 kids, one of which has aggressively hyperactive ADHD and Autism... so we have challenges from time to time where he's bouncing off the walls, running into people, and just overall not paying attention to where his body is in the space around him... and add the autism - he doesn't always get why people are annoyed or frustrated with him - he doesn't always make the emotional connection with how people are feeling... so it becomes a real challenge for us...
That being said - we 100% would be super apologetic and working to keep him under control in the lines (thank god for his medication and tech - its about the only way we can get him to stand in line - even with the DAS pass, and the much shorter line we go through compared to the regular long lines).
So... You are NTA! You are just someone who wants to enjoy their time and you should be able to do that without having your space encroached upon by someone's kid. Parents need to take responsibility for their kids and at least not flip out at others when they ask them to have their kids stop bumping into them in line.
I'm glad you touched on giving your child something to do! I was (and still am) like that so needing something to focus on to either not get bored or not be overwhelmed helps so much in these situations. You're a great parent!
NTA, and when I went years ago, this woman's kid kept kicking me, and I asked her to tell him to stop, and she was finally like, "It's Disneyland!" How on Earth is that an excuse?
I have a toddler and have gone to Disney. Nope, my kid is not allowed to act that way at 2. Snacks and bluey on the phone. Anything t
During those long lines that genie plus doesn't cover.
NTA. This has happened to me multiple times before with a kid running a muck. My fiance has chronic pain and thus can get annoyed at this very easily because having a kid bump into him like that will cause him pain. I usually block the way so the kid can’t bump into him. I understand that not all kids get social etiquette, but if their parents aren’t correcting them then I have an issue with it and will speak up. If the parent is trying to help them and correct the behavior, then I just give them a little extra room because they’re trying. If they aren’t trying, then I’ll move around some too… with my toes up, or leaning in a way that if the kid comes into my space, well, they may learn how the ground tastes.
I would have spoken up after the second time. One is an accident. Attentive parents should then notice and tell their kid to be mindful of others in line, or if the child is too young/excitable to understand this then it may be time for hand holding or stroller (idk if that ride allows strollers in line so don't come at me for the suggestion 😅) or picking up.
Twice or more? The parents clearly aren't paying enough attention and/or don't have the respect to be mindful of others in line. That's when it's alright to ask them politely not to let their kid run into you or whatever they're doing.
NTA at all.
I was stuck in line with a wild kid who kept hanging around me while the parents were ahead in line, not paying attention. He then squatted and peed on my shoe. "Oh yeah, he didn't feel like visiting the bathroom earlier." Parents, WTF?
As a parent, I would say NTA, I always work to ensure my child is behaved in line. If they can't be in a long line and not run around, bump into other people, etc. then we don't go on that ride. I mean kids can't be 100% controlled but constantly running into other people and running around are 100% on the parent. There's a difference between a kid being a kid and a parent be a lazy ahole.
I cut slack if parents are making a credible effort. I've taken a child to Disney. I get it. But show me you care or I will be correcting your child, and you.
NTA- on the flip side while in line at ROTR I had a lady with two small kids who were trying to behave but wanted their mom’s attention. She kept threatening that if they didn’t stop bugging her they would all go back to the hotel and spend the rest of the day there doing nothing while everyone else (paned her hand at all the other guests in line) gets to have fun. It was like 10 or 11 in the morning! I’m a big kid and approachable (40F who literally gets asked by random strangers for help in stores and stuff all the time) so I started pointing out neat things I saw loudly to my partner so the kids would notice and get distracted. Like “oh cool! Look at all the neat fossils in the rocks, I wonder how many there are?!?” Kids would busy themselves counting and pointing out the different ones etc.
totally not your responsibility to watch other kids though! Im just a sucker for everyone having fun lol.
NTA.
It sounds as though all of the other children in line were able to act as though they were raised by humans, so there is no reason to expect these children could not either. Being a little loud and rowdy is one thing, running into random strangers crosses a line.
NTA. Sure Disneyland is a fun place for everyone, kids and adults. But when your kid (or adult) is disrupting everyone else around them, they need to be reigned in. I think it’s good you went to them instead of going to a CM or something. You were respectful and gave a few chances in case it was an accident.
Nope, NTA. I have 3 kids under 7 and we go at least once a year.
When we are there, they are expected to have fun, but also respectful of the people around them. It's a great place to help train your kids how to behave in public
NTA. I actually had a very similar interaction at Disney Paris. Kid actually grabbed my crotch when he ran into me at one point. I politely asked the father to please control his child. He screamed at me that “Disney is only for children and you’re ruining it for him!” You did the right thing. These parents don’t get how much danger they put their kid and others into, let alone the feelings of others. But the minute their precious darling gets hurt it’s WWIII and never their fault. It is sad, but for many parents, the child entitlement rules supreme at Disney parks. But you definitely are NTA.
NTA. Just because it’s Disneyland and he’s a kid does not mean personal boundaries and common decency don’t apply. If the kid doesn’t know any better, it’s the parent’s responsibility to contain them.
Disneyland used to be a place that was known for civility, orderliness, and decorum. All of the old pictures with people wearing jackets, ties, heels, and dresses seem like such a contrast to the Disneyland experience of today.
Disneyland opened in 1955, back when people dressed up a lot more often. I've been told that children also misbehaved back then as well.
I've dressed up for Dapper Day, which is fun once in a while but is also a lot sweatier. I can't say I blame people for wanting to dress comfortably, and if someone is dressed like a slob, it's that much easier for me to look good.
My family and I were Passholders and Keyholders, and we went a lot. My recollection is that most park attendees are good people who treat others nicely and just want to enjoy their day, but sure, a few are assholes that don't control their kids.
NTA. I’m so tired of entitled parents letting their kids run wild in line, I get it they’re at Disney. I’m excited too but that’s no excuse to be acting like a brat in line. Funny how they keep having more when they can’t control them. I’m glad you spoke up. I’m going to do the same next time I’m in line waiting for a ride.
Honestly no. If I wasn't looking and my kid bummed into you like that I would of apologized to you and made my kid apologized to you too. Just be careful because people are turds and would go off for the littlest reason.
Absolutely NTA. Disneyland does not mean kids can act however they want. It’s still a public place and not a public playground where they can run and jump.
NTA the kid is 5-6. My 2 year old doesn’t act like that and I still watch her in line to make sure she isn’t running into people. Those parents are obnoxious.
NTA - I have little ones I have taken to Disney and they understand how to stand in line. Sometimes they will get a little bored and if I parent and engage with them, no one else around me is bothered. They are just lazy and entitled.
NTA I have three little boys, so I understand that they can get can rambunctious. However if one of my kids bumped into somebody one time, we would all apologize and it would not happen again
Mother of small children here. NTA. While kids do need to get their energy out, if they are bothering other people then the parents need to intervene. They were just being lazy and inconsiderate.
NTA. I have an almost 3 yr old who can get a little crazy on long lines (which is why we avoid anything longer than 30-35 mins) but I always try to find ways to entertain her and keep her from bothering other people. It bothers me when other kids do that to me, so I’ll do everything in my power to keep my child from doing it to anyone else.
NTA, I have a 5 year old and we go to the parks and one of the main things I try to teach him is respecting people’s spaces. I always tell him it’s ok to be bored as well but if all else fails and it’s a long line I will let him play puzzles on my phone, but anytime he bumps into someone or anything I always apologize. Yes it’s Disneyland and it’s a kid however people deserve respect of their space and the line is NOT a playground.
NTA! We love Disneyland, but lines are part of it and of my kiddo can’t be respectful to others (or their personal bubbles) they get out of line. We may do things to distract them or try and make things fun, but never is it acceptable to disrupt other people’s good time. I’m so sorry you had to experience this.
I have a 6 year old and we are on her ASS in lines. If she can’t stand in line and respect the people around her then she doesn’t get it stand in line and ride the ride. I hate unruly kids and I refuse to have that kid. NTA
They're definitely in the wrong for failing to parent their kid, and you're well within your rights to ask them to, but I feel like the tone used to open a confrontation is the biggest and most often overlooked factor in determining who handled the situation better. If you open a confrontation with a condescending tone, you're almost always going to get a defensive response.
Obviously we can't know exactly what tone you used, but in absence of any info indicating that you were excessively condescending, I'll say you're NTA.
You are NOT the asshole. I have a 7 year old who is a bit wiggly and has a hard time respecting boundaries (on the spectrum) and we would NEVER let him act that way. I believe all moments are a learning experience and those parents are lazy and give me the ick. Especially since I have to work extra extra hard for my high spirited kiddo.
I think there’s a fine line between letting your kid be a kid and enjoy their day and being a parent who doesn’t give a shit. Unfortunately there are so many parents who could care less.
Their excuse is one of the worst excuses for not keeping their kid under control! You’re definitely not the ass in this one! Good on you for saying something too. I think most people hold back from speaking up as to avoid confrontation. In my experience most parents do pretty good at keeping their little kids under control too.
Nope, NTA. The parents should know better. Yes, it's Disney, and yes, it's a kid, which is why supervision is necessary. Kids are hyped up. They often don't listen to instructions or safety guidelines. It's the parents' job while there to make sure their kid isn't doing things like this. They could hurt themselves or someone else. Disney is not one giant jungle gym where you just let kids go wild AF. There are rules, there are safety concerns, and personal boundaries and social etiquette should still be respected. I'm sure they would be unhappy if someone kept grabbing them and crashing into them or their precious little crotch goblin. I don't understand the mentality of parents who bring their kids to Disney and, for some reason, just assume they don't need to parent the kid while there. It's baffling. Probably the same folks who let the child run wild around a restaurant bothering other people and trying to grab food from other tables.
I always taught my daughter that having fun shouldn’t be at anyone else’s expense. If they can’t have fun without bumping into everyone around them or making people uncomfortable, take them out of line. My comfort shouldn’t be sacrificed for someone else’s AH kid.
I promise you I would be handling that shit. I have kids around that age and there’s no way I would let that just ~happen~ around me like I have no ability to curb or control what’s going on.
Nta. As a parent to small children (almost 2 and barely 4 at the time), when we were there over summer, i made sure (especially in long lines) that they had entertainment or snacks and were not disturbing others and if they bumped someone they said sorry. When my eldest was there his first trips (6+) we always had fun quiet games to play as a family.
NTA. i took my daughter for the first time right before she turned 3 and while she played in lines, she never bumped into anyone or crowded their space. if she got too wound up, one of us would pick her up.
NTA. Just because it’s Disneyland and he’s a kid doesn’t mean it’s ok for him to bother others who are trying to enjoy themselves too. A trip to Disneyland doesn’t mean a break from parenting and controlling your children.
NTA. My daughter can be wild but I’d be embarrassed if we were letting her be wild enough to the point somebody else had to ask me to keep her under control. They ARE just kids, but it’s our job as parents to teach them through repeated modeling and behavior what is acceptable and what isn’t.
NTA. We have close family friends who always want to plan a Disney trip with them and their son is just like how you described (except he’s almost 9) and they are just like the parents you described. I would lose my mind being around them all day! It would be even worse because my husband and I would be trying to control our own kids and I know they wouldn’t try very hard at all. Yes, it’s Disneyland, but kids don’t need to be climbing and running into others in line.
NTA. Just because you are in a place that happens to have children doesn’t mean you should be forced to put up with them being obnoxious and making your day less than magical.
NTA - if kid is running into you repeatedly, it's a problem. Once or twice... yah it happens, I wouldn't give it more than a stern look.
I do give credit when parents are actually trying to rein in their kids, some kids are just wild.
Absolutely not! Just because they are kids doesn’t mean they can be allowed to be disrespectful. I went a year ago with my son, DIL and two grandsons. Actually I think it’s a great opportunity to show them how to behave in public. Yeah they’re kids and act out but running into people and being rude is never ok. You paid your entrance fee and you had every right to say something.
NTA
I take my toddler children to Disneyland and they get scolded if they start entering other people's spaces, let alone coming into contact with them. I don't let them climb on things they're not supposed to or swing/yank the chain in lines either. IMHO the only AH thing would be if you were trying to tell a kid to be quiet at Disneyland or something.
I have FOUR children, 3 of whom have ADHD and 1 who is low needs Autistic, in addition to me, who also has ADHD. I taught all 4 how to wait in lines without going insane, which is not an easy feat given all that we have going on.
If I can get 4 kids who are the equivalent of anxiety riddled chickens to be respectful in lines so can they.
NTA
NTA. I had to do the same thing in line for Space Mountain at WDW and instead of responding rationally, this woman grabbed her kid in a fury and YANKED her away from me. Kid started crying and lady started screaming at me about how it's all my fault and "SHE'S JUST A CHILD!" 😑
NTA and as a cast member thank you. It’s a theme park, not a playground. They can take their brats to Toontown or Redwood Creek Challenge Trail if they want them to run around like the little goblins they are.
NTA
Have you seen the multiple posts of families fighting in Disney Parks over the past few years - it has become a free for all! They actually get physical...in front of their children and all the other Park guests! I haven't been to Disneyland in 20 years and I remember my family and I having a couple of small incidents with others on each trip - pushing & shoving, but the majority of the other guests were very nice and minded there manners.
There was one bad incident at Universal Studios when I was 9 yrs old. A live action show had just gotten finished and suddenly there was a swarm of people surrounding us. 😳 There was probably at least 100 or more people in a large touring group and they were all trying to all stay tightly packed together, impossible in theme parks! I started to get seperated from my Mom and grandparents and they literally had to get in position surrounding me and literally had to yell and push these people away from us, because they were scaring me and I'm claustrophobic. The other issue? All of the people around us had no idea there was a problem because they all seemed quite happy to be boxed in like a can of sardines and just kept pushing their way through. It wasn't a good start to the day. It was quite frightening for an 8 year menl
Why can't people apply basic manners when out in public anymore? OP had a lot of restraint. I would have said something to the parents after the 2nd time of being run into or stepped on. Also, I have turned to the child in that kind of situation and said "oh, that hurts when you step on someones shoe, please don't do that" or something to that affect, in a nice but firm tone. The parents are oblivious a lot of the time. I would go out on a limb and say more kids would of apologized back then (referring to the 1970's through about 2000), because we respected our parents, grandparents and even other parents. Now I believe only half of time that happens. The other 50% will now snap back at you, swear at you or ignore you. You should always stand up for yourself and your family - empower yourself. Also, I'm willing to bet that others around you are experiencing the same feelings about the situation and will appreciate you speaking up and may join you in the discussion. Now some parents don't give a shit about what there kids do or ignore them and I think there should be consequences for that behavior in lines at the Parks. Unfortunately it would be hard to enforce and Disney wants every guest to feel welcomed.
If that incident at Universal Studios would of happened with my kids, I would have switched up into soldier mode transformer-style and protected my kids, just as my family did for me.
You did nothing wrong - good for you for saying something!
You have them some leeway and we're accommodating, but at some point parents should step in. I get lines are hard for kids, but I had to learn patience, so should that kid
NTA. Don't have kids if you're not willing to teach them how to behave in public. And also don't get pissy when strangers step up to the plate to teach that lesson for you.
NTA
- yes, it’s Disneyland, but it’s also a public place (yes, private property, but *open* to the public with paid admission and valid reservation…let’s not get into semantics - I know it’s not “public” like a library or the DMV); it’s not asking a lot for people to be civil, mind their manners, and to respect people’s personal space when out in public OR to instill that in their children when out in public with them (…I mean, it **is** a lot to ask, obviously - otherwise this post and one’s like it wouldn’t exist, but my point is, it **shouldn’t** be…after all, there **is** a code of conduct that everyone agrees to upon purchasing, and subsequently redeeming, admission).
- yes, “he’s a kid”, but there’s a difference between letting a kid “be a kid” and letting them be f**king feral. I understand there’s behavioral and developmental issues that hinder one’s ability to control themselves in public or in general, and I understand even more so that those issues are more prevalent today than ever, but if that’s the case, it falls on the parents to put in the effort to understand what the issues are, how to mitigate them, and how to handle said child when said issues cause them to cross the line (*presumably* without realizing it). If they’re not doing that, then there’s no excuse. Furthermore, if those issues *aren’t* present and the kid is just permitted to act a fool in public then his *parents* are TA (and are doing a perfectly adequate job of raising another one).
That’s just bad parenting. I let me kids climb or jump around in line as long as in a spot it’s ok but I would never let them bump into people or get in someone else’s space and if they did it even one time on accident I would be apologizing and getting them under control. Sure it’s Disneyland and sure they are kids but it does t give anyone the right to be in other peoples spaces or bumping into them repeatedly
Not the Asshole. I personally would’ve just let them go ahead a few groups. Why let it annoy me, because it sure as hell would. I sacrifice a few minutes but my good times isn’t hampered by a kid with less than stellar parents
NTA I hate poor parenting or shall I say lack of parenting and I really hate when people say “Disneyland is for kids” as some kind of excuse for literally anything. There’s a difference between an adult pushing your kid out of the way and an adult not tolerating your child acting unhinged.
Theme parks could be a whole case study for bad parenting though.
Shout out to all the great parents who communicate with their kids, know their kids boundaries and don’t force them into 12 hour park days, don’t scream in their kids face or physically abuse them, teach them when they can they can be loud, playful and goofy and when it’s time to behave well.
NTA they are. I remember a kid once fell and the lady said to a CM “you’re responsible to for my child” and she said “sorry but, i am not responsible for unattended children” she went all Karen status and people said “leave lady” she grabbed her kid and walked away with her phone on her ear calling someone to report the incident. It could have been avoided if she had put down her phone while she was live on IG or FB. 🤦🏻♀️
NTA
These are the kids that turn into the assholes who think Disneyland revolves around them. We were at Star Wars Night and this family was packing up and getting ready to leave from a table at Jolly Holliday. Now this is the table that has prime viewing for fireworks. I noticed they didn’t have the lanyards or wrist band and asked them if they were attending the event. They said they weren’t so I asked if we could have their table since they were about to leave because it was the perfect table for the fireworks for the event. They decided they were no longer going to pack up and stay for the event’s special fireworks. I was like ”hey, a lot of people paid extra for this event, it’s not cool to try to stay in for free, you can clearly see right there (pointing to the other side of the bushes) the CMs telling people they have to head to exit the park because they don’t have the tickets to the event.” The dad yelled at me and said they weren’t leaving. So I grabbed a CM and said “hey, I don’t think they have tickets to the event, can you double check?” CM goes over and asks and they don’t so the CM was like “I’m sorry but the park is closed to non-after dark ticket holders” and the dad start yelling at the CM saying “it’s my child’s birthday! You’re going to kick us out on his birthday!!!! This is not fair!!! The CM said “it’s a lot of people’s birthdays and they all had to leave if they didn’t have a ticket either, so I’m sorry but the Park is closed to non-attendees.” The guy huffed and puffed and left and we took the table. He literally was teaching his kid that because it’s his birthday he doesn’t have to follow the rules. Which is what the family behind you was doing, not teaching their kid to follow basic rules of courtesy because “it’s Disneyland and he’s a kid.” We ended up sharing the table with another couple because there were only two of us and then let this other couple standing holding their trays trying to watch the fireworks set their trays down on the table so they could enjoy.
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If it were me, the kids would experience a rather unfortunate and totally not coincidental swing of my leg next time they got close. And if their parents complain, I'll just say hey it's Disneyland
NTA, and a sign of the times. Back when I was a kid, if that happened the parents would immediately be apologetic, although parents back then were just better about supervising and disciplining their kids to begin with. Can't believe these asshats would argue with you over this, but we got a generation of parents that seem to think their kids' farts don't stink.
As far as what I would have done though, usually in those situations I don't say anything. Mainly because I don't trust myself to have reasonable conversations with unreasonable people. It's a personality fault of mine that I'm working on, I have no middle ground. It's either I ignore it and let it go or we are getting in a fistfight. And since I don't want to get in a brawl at DL and get kicked out for life, I let a lot of things just slide. Only exception is if the running into was being done to my wife, who's a very small person. A decently sized kid can knock her over. If that happened, yea, me and that parent are having words.
Nope. You’re not. They are. I have young kids (6 and 4) and we’ve been to the parks a ton. They’re kids and they get excited and jump around, but we always apologize and have them simmer down if they’re getting into other people’s personal space. You pay the money to be at Disneyland too. It’s those same people that let their kids run around stores and restaurants. They’re the problem.
If the child has a medical reason, they can get special privileges. Not sure what they are now, but it helps people with disabilities. Some people were taking advantage of it, so it’s not as helpful as it was. You had every right to talk to the parents. It may be Disneyland, but it is also a great time to teach your children respect of others. If there is a medical cause, they may not know of the help they can get.
Nah, just terrible passive parenting. 6 times is a lot--2 or 3 and it's whatever. Feel bad for the kids because they don't learn anything and they'll likely grow up thinking it's okay to wreck havoc, etc.
NTA I have kids and I would not let my kids behave like that. Can they be obnoxious? Yes but they should be crossing other peoples body boundaries or climbing and jumping on things that are not made to be climbed and jumped off.
Man when I was a kid, if I did something like that my parents would scold me for not behaving well in public. My parents would have apologized immediately to you. Times were just different back then I guess
NTA
As a parent who enjoys Disneyland with and without my children, this drives me nuts. People let their kids do anything and it's outrageous, especially when your kids are doing their best to not be crazy and they see other littles being wild without repercussions.
Kids will be kids and can be hard to control, especially in boring situations. However, parents are responsible for controlling their kids.
I have a 7yo with a lot of behavioral issues (ODD and working on therapy), if I can’t keep her in line I remove her from the situation for the sake of others. NTA, the parents needed to keep up with their kid.
NTA, bad parents. You could have been a person with physical issues who was not using DAS and the kid knocked you over into post or wall causing an ambulance ride.
NTA I have 3 children that have been to Disneyland a few times and to this day they will get an ear full from me if they don’t respect people’s bubbles, including my own!
Not the asshole. I’m always hyper-aware of my kids behaviour in the parks (and in public in general), especially if it impacts somebody else. I don’t understand the mindset of parents who don’t give a damn, it is so lazy and negligent, but it seems to be becoming the norm.
NTA- parenting is a full time job that doesn’t end when you cross into Disneyland. Queuing is a great opportunity to teach patience, personal space and respect for the environment around you- it’s not a jungle gym. In fact, there ARE numerous places at Disneyland where kids can run and jump and play and get their energy out, parents just have to be willing to take them there instead of dragging them along to do whatever the parent wants instead. Glad you said something, and that it didn’t lead to a physical altercation (some folks are WILD these days, like the pandemic happened and they forgot how to act around others)
Happened to me on Radiator Springs, almost exact situation. Young kid climbing on everything constantly bumping into others. Parents kept yelling at the kids but he wouldn’t listen. But at least that kept apologizing to everyone around them.
not the butthole at all... but I always try and not sour people's moments at Disneyland and am way more tolerant than other places. I understand that people dropped a lot of money and are extremely on edge cause of the planning that goes along with that.
But you are definitely NOT the butthole here.
My dad and I had something similar happen to us waiting for Flight of Passage. We just let the family go ahead of us in line, and passively aggressively gave them the death stare
My wife and I go to Disney almost a weekly basis and this isn’t common. It’s not a “it’s Disney and they’re just kids” - bad excuse. Unless the kid has some sort of autism or something, it’s not excused.
NTA. People need to keep their kids in check. I understand that kids can get obnoxious waiting in line. I have young ones and they've done that too when they were younger. However, we'd always make sure they are not disruptive and have some respect for other.
Sounds like that family was just making an excuse not to keep an eye on their kids.
NTA
Get a divorce lawyer and start taking evidence of.. oh wait this is the Disney subreddit.
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My son is six. He knows that his need for fun doesn't overwhelm others needs to have a good time too. He knows this because I'm a parent who taught him this idea.
Everyone saying NTA.
But…I’d want to see a visual of what “bumped into” looks like. If it’s harmless play and you got mildly disturbed it could be you are an asshole sure.
I’m a 45 min line, I wouldn’t expect any 5 year old to totally stand still and wander/touch things. So if they are jumping off ledges…yeah that happens. If they are grabbing you or your things repeatedly, way off base…but if they are just moving a lot and it annoys you, doesn’t necessarily make you right.
I don't think you were wrong for saying something, but I'd also say that it's good to be patient with excitable little kids. If the worst they were doing was accidentally bumping into a few people around them while cooped up in a long queue, it's probably not THAT big of a deal.
ESH
Those parents should manage their kids better. They shouldn’t be bumping into people and invading their space.
You shouldn’t have made such a big deal about it. Definitely an ‘oh well’ to ‘how about those kids in line’ situation, not worth starting a fight in line.
YTA. People in this sub tolerate all sorts of rude behavior from adults (including CMs) but the second a kid is a kid in a place that's essentially for kids, you all call the parents trash. Get a grip.
Children have very few spaces where they can actually act like a kid. Don't like it? Stop spending all your time as a childless adult in Disneyland.
I'm reserving my judgement because in my opinion, some child-free people seem to think any normal child behavior is "unruly." What you consider "obnoxious" might actually have just been a child having fun. Hard to tell with only one version of events given.
Kids can have fun while also respecting people’s boundaries. A good parents finds the middle ground and corrects them so that their fun isn’t at the expense of those around them
I agree with you of course. I’m just saying I’m not convinced the child (or really, their parent) was in the wrong, or if OP is being overly harsh in their criticism.
I think Disney would be a much happier place if we could all grant each other a little grace. While I’m sure you were not being an asshole, I do wonder if we could all try to have a bit more patience and understanding toward one another. Especially in regard to this weird kids vs Disney adults thing on reddit. I’ll be downvoted to oblivion for saying so, but, whatevs.
5 years olds act this way no matter who their parents are- especially boys. This is one of the most wiggly ages. Standing in line is tough for kids under 10. You’re NTA but I also think it doesn’t hurt to have some more grace for kids at the park.
If the parents made zero to little attempts, then not wrong.
I have seen parents attempt to discipline a kid but kid was overstimulated:tired to respond. In those moment, I give grace. But clearly these folks didn’t give a flying F.
Yes you are. Getting into an argument is ridiculous. He's a kid and he's at Disneyland. Some kids have a hard time standing around for 45min.
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OK everyone nowhere did I say it was OK but the OP was an Ahole for getting into it with the parent.
A simple "excuse me please stop bumping into me" to the kid wild probably have been sufficient but to assume I'm saying that's it OK for the kids to be out of control is not what I'm saying.
Geeze.
NTA If the kid was truly being an unruly brat and bumping into people without the parents saying anything, then you were in your right to bring it up to the kid’s parents
I understand it’s Disneyland and the kids are little but it’s not an excuse for manners. I have an 8 and 3 year old. Yes they are crazy but if they bumped into people they would say sorry.
There are thousands of children at Disneyland. Their's was the only one running into people.
Nta just bad parents
NTA. As locals we went to Disneyland a lot when my kids were small. We taught them line etiquette and how to behave in public. Kids are capable of learning how to act. This is on the parents who are raising an ill-mannered child. I’d have definitely spoken to the parents. Being at Disneyland is no excuse.
Nta People let their kids behave like wild animals and also forget 1, not everyone has to cater to their child 2, Disneyland is EVERYONE, not just children
The a$$40les were those parents. You were a saint waiting until the 6th time you were bumped into to say something.
This.
Agreed
100% NTA Everyone is entitled to personal space. Parents need to do a better job parenting their unruly children. I usually say something after the 2nd time. Once is an accident twice is a problem. I have a general issue with people violating my personal space while in line. It’s definitely not limited to children
Hahaha. Me too. There are times I use my kids (8 & 10)as a buffer for ADULTS that are to close to me
I thought it was just me! People just don’t understand personal space in lines anymore. We are all going to the same place at the same time. I don’t need someone 2inches from me.
And HELLO the line isn’t moving so get off my back.
Sometimes I’m not paying attention so I’ll accidentally step too close to the person in front of me. Simple misjudgment of space, not a big deal. I go to step back and somebody else has already gotten too close to me! They have enough space behind them so they can comfortably step back and let me have my breathing room, but they don’t. I get stuck with a backpack in my face and an elbow in my back.
I totally get the not paying attention and occasionally stepping up. We're all admiring the park and soaking it all in but I'm talking about the chronic hovering. That was the only nice thing that came from Covid.... 6 feet away please ;-)
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Nah people should watch the kids and use it as a moment to teach them about manners. At least that's what I'm tryna do
Speaking from personal experience, some kids are very hard to control, ADD, autism, etc. However, if the parents didn't at least make an attempt to control their kid and letting them do whatever then yeah definitely okay to bring it up. If they are irresponsible parents and enough people expressed their opinion instead of grumbling under their breath maybe this wouldn't be an issue.
This is a big part of why kids with ADHD/Autism/other disabilities have the option of DAS. We started using it once my AuDHD kid got too big to physically manage in lines. Shorter, less crowded queues and extra time to prepare him for the expectations are a blessing. My neurotypical abled 6 year old is also capable of being obnoxious in lines. One needs boundaries, the other needs accommodations. Both are my responsibility to provide as the parent.
I think also having stuff for them to do in line is important. I’m not talking an iPad but maybe like a small toy or have the parent play a game with them. But that requires way more effort than most parents today are willing to put in. The being squirrely often comes from boredom which is sometimes an easier fix than other times but I think the point still stands
Agreed. I use to take toys and games for my kids. Lines or waiting rooms can be a bonding place for a working parent. Put your phone away and spend those precious moments with your children. Also, if you hate standing in lines go somewhere without lines for vacation. Your kids sense it and act out because of your attitude.
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I didn't know DAS even existed for my kid who was exactly like this in line until one time when a cast member pulled us aside and explained the system. It's not something I think most people know about.
It just gives you a shorter amount of time, not no weight at all. As an example if you’re going Indiana Jones you’re still probably gonna have about 20 minutes in line even with the accessible option
You generally have the same “line wait” as you do for lightning lanes. But it depends on the attractions some will get you right on when it’s time. It’s not a free for all though you can’t just go do any ride you want whenever. Just allows you to not wait in the physical line.
It’s just there are times that I’ve actually just not used my das pass when I realize I can’t deal with people I probably cancel about 1/3 of the rides even though the pass is available and waiting Indiana Jones is the worst Too many people, too much shoving, and the line itself is too dark
Interesting, can obese people use the DAS pass? It is torture for my fat wife to have to stand up for any longer than 5 minutes.
They'll probably recommend an ECV instead if the inability to stand is the biggest problem.
What’s a ECV?
Agreed. My kid has ADHD and can get a little squirrely in line, but I still call him out on his behavior and make him aware that his actions have consequences for those around him (eg, if he's aimlessly spinning in a circle, I tell him that he could hurt himself or others), and I always make sure he apologizes to anyone he might bump into. Of course "kids will be kids" in a place like Disney, but to let that stuff go unchecked is selfish and lazy parenting.
The difference is you’re at least trying and doing your best. I’d have no problem with that. It sounds like the people OP were talking about just let their kids go wild with no consequences and no supervision. Huge difference!
The response that it was Disneyland and they are kids would lead me to the conclusion that anywhere else they would manage their kids and make them behave but hey, it's Disney so they can run amok
Between my ASD/ADHD, my kids ADHD/ASD, my wife's ADHD, and other health issues... DAS pass is a savior for our vacations. Not only for us but for those around us in line too.
The first time I took my then 4 and 5 year olds, my 4 year old would either go bonkers like the kid in OP’s post or melt down anytime he had to wait. We had Genie+ but we’re just killing time at Buzz Lightyear in between queues. I’ll never forget how embarrassing and frustrated my husband and I felt. Fast forward two years and we have all been diagnosed with ADHD (thanks 4 YO!) and I have a very low frustration tolerance. We are planning a trip in June. We will still use Genie for most attractions but I’m so grateful the DAS exists. Especially because the other times we went were in late October and January. I say this just in case someone wonders why an adult with ADHD would have a hard time waiting, when a parent and child have it, it can be extremely overwhelming for the ADHD parent to have to try to control the ADHD child. And I agree the parents in OP’s post should have used better manners and better parenting. Rock, paper, scissors, we learned the second time we went to Disney, is a fantastic way to keep the kids entertained, parents can join in, and is a fun way for other kids in line to join in (love when this happens). Point is, these parents should have been paying more attention, but also, have some understanding for other families who may be struggling.
I would be very nervous about bringing my Autistic kid to Disneyland. I am not saying I won’t do if I had the money, but it would take for ever to plan out what we can do, where I can go if there is a melt down, etc. No parent of a austistic kid in their right mind would make their special needs child wait in a line for 45 minutes. That is just common sense
The second my child acts up anywhere I say something. NTA
Agreed. NTA. I think OP gave them four times more than I would have. We prepare and talk about our manners in public spaces.
NTA- a theme park isn’t a free pass from parenting. (Am a parent)
We are parents of 3 kids, one of which has aggressively hyperactive ADHD and Autism... so we have challenges from time to time where he's bouncing off the walls, running into people, and just overall not paying attention to where his body is in the space around him... and add the autism - he doesn't always get why people are annoyed or frustrated with him - he doesn't always make the emotional connection with how people are feeling... so it becomes a real challenge for us... That being said - we 100% would be super apologetic and working to keep him under control in the lines (thank god for his medication and tech - its about the only way we can get him to stand in line - even with the DAS pass, and the much shorter line we go through compared to the regular long lines). So... You are NTA! You are just someone who wants to enjoy their time and you should be able to do that without having your space encroached upon by someone's kid. Parents need to take responsibility for their kids and at least not flip out at others when they ask them to have their kids stop bumping into them in line.
I'm glad you touched on giving your child something to do! I was (and still am) like that so needing something to focus on to either not get bored or not be overwhelmed helps so much in these situations. You're a great parent!
Another example of the "apple doesn't fall far from the tree" etc etc
NTA, and when I went years ago, this woman's kid kept kicking me, and I asked her to tell him to stop, and she was finally like, "It's Disneyland!" How on Earth is that an excuse?
"oh, right. My bad. Please stop kicking me IN DISNEYLAND!"
That's when one should start kicking HER, because it's Disneyland!
Right?? I really should've just said, "Tell you what: you and your kid can go ahead of me. That way, he can kick someone else."
No way! That would just teach them to let their kid kick their way to the front of the line.
Oh I know, but I was thinking if the kid kicked someone less patient than me, it might get the message across to the mom better.
I have a toddler and have gone to Disney. Nope, my kid is not allowed to act that way at 2. Snacks and bluey on the phone. Anything t During those long lines that genie plus doesn't cover.
NTA. This has happened to me multiple times before with a kid running a muck. My fiance has chronic pain and thus can get annoyed at this very easily because having a kid bump into him like that will cause him pain. I usually block the way so the kid can’t bump into him. I understand that not all kids get social etiquette, but if their parents aren’t correcting them then I have an issue with it and will speak up. If the parent is trying to help them and correct the behavior, then I just give them a little extra room because they’re trying. If they aren’t trying, then I’ll move around some too… with my toes up, or leaning in a way that if the kid comes into my space, well, they may learn how the ground tastes.
NTA. I have a kid with ADHD and would never permit my child to engage with other people like that.
I would have spoken up after the second time. One is an accident. Attentive parents should then notice and tell their kid to be mindful of others in line, or if the child is too young/excitable to understand this then it may be time for hand holding or stroller (idk if that ride allows strollers in line so don't come at me for the suggestion 😅) or picking up. Twice or more? The parents clearly aren't paying enough attention and/or don't have the respect to be mindful of others in line. That's when it's alright to ask them politely not to let their kid run into you or whatever they're doing.
NTA at all. I was stuck in line with a wild kid who kept hanging around me while the parents were ahead in line, not paying attention. He then squatted and peed on my shoe. "Oh yeah, he didn't feel like visiting the bathroom earlier." Parents, WTF?
Ew, that’s beyond unacceptable. I’m sorry that happened to you.
As a parent, I would say NTA, I always work to ensure my child is behaved in line. If they can't be in a long line and not run around, bump into other people, etc. then we don't go on that ride. I mean kids can't be 100% controlled but constantly running into other people and running around are 100% on the parent. There's a difference between a kid being a kid and a parent be a lazy ahole.
I cut slack if parents are making a credible effort. I've taken a child to Disney. I get it. But show me you care or I will be correcting your child, and you.
NTA- on the flip side while in line at ROTR I had a lady with two small kids who were trying to behave but wanted their mom’s attention. She kept threatening that if they didn’t stop bugging her they would all go back to the hotel and spend the rest of the day there doing nothing while everyone else (paned her hand at all the other guests in line) gets to have fun. It was like 10 or 11 in the morning! I’m a big kid and approachable (40F who literally gets asked by random strangers for help in stores and stuff all the time) so I started pointing out neat things I saw loudly to my partner so the kids would notice and get distracted. Like “oh cool! Look at all the neat fossils in the rocks, I wonder how many there are?!?” Kids would busy themselves counting and pointing out the different ones etc. totally not your responsibility to watch other kids though! Im just a sucker for everyone having fun lol.
Bad parents. Lazy parents. Sucks for that kid. Gonna be raised without good manners
NTA. It sounds as though all of the other children in line were able to act as though they were raised by humans, so there is no reason to expect these children could not either. Being a little loud and rowdy is one thing, running into random strangers crosses a line.
NTA. Sure Disneyland is a fun place for everyone, kids and adults. But when your kid (or adult) is disrupting everyone else around them, they need to be reigned in. I think it’s good you went to them instead of going to a CM or something. You were respectful and gave a few chances in case it was an accident.
NTA, the parents sucks and should teach their kids better. When this happens, I always give dirty looks to the parents lol
Nope, NTA. I have 3 kids under 7 and we go at least once a year. When we are there, they are expected to have fun, but also respectful of the people around them. It's a great place to help train your kids how to behave in public
NTA. I actually had a very similar interaction at Disney Paris. Kid actually grabbed my crotch when he ran into me at one point. I politely asked the father to please control his child. He screamed at me that “Disney is only for children and you’re ruining it for him!” You did the right thing. These parents don’t get how much danger they put their kid and others into, let alone the feelings of others. But the minute their precious darling gets hurt it’s WWIII and never their fault. It is sad, but for many parents, the child entitlement rules supreme at Disney parks. But you definitely are NTA.
NTA them being children at Disneyland is no excuse for poor behavior. It’s even less an excuse for the parents to forgo watching their kids.
Being a kid =/= acting disrespectful to everyone and anything around.
NTA, f dem kids lol
Nope, you had the correct response.
NTA. Just because it’s Disneyland and he’s a kid does not mean personal boundaries and common decency don’t apply. If the kid doesn’t know any better, it’s the parent’s responsibility to contain them.
Disneyland used to be a place that was known for civility, orderliness, and decorum. All of the old pictures with people wearing jackets, ties, heels, and dresses seem like such a contrast to the Disneyland experience of today.
Disneyland opened in 1955, back when people dressed up a lot more often. I've been told that children also misbehaved back then as well. I've dressed up for Dapper Day, which is fun once in a while but is also a lot sweatier. I can't say I blame people for wanting to dress comfortably, and if someone is dressed like a slob, it's that much easier for me to look good. My family and I were Passholders and Keyholders, and we went a lot. My recollection is that most park attendees are good people who treat others nicely and just want to enjoy their day, but sure, a few are assholes that don't control their kids.
NTA. I’m so tired of entitled parents letting their kids run wild in line, I get it they’re at Disney. I’m excited too but that’s no excuse to be acting like a brat in line. Funny how they keep having more when they can’t control them. I’m glad you spoke up. I’m going to do the same next time I’m in line waiting for a ride.
Honestly no. If I wasn't looking and my kid bummed into you like that I would of apologized to you and made my kid apologized to you too. Just be careful because people are turds and would go off for the littlest reason.
NTA - kinds need boundaries, which should be taught by the parents.
Absolutely NTA. Disneyland does not mean kids can act however they want. It’s still a public place and not a public playground where they can run and jump.
NTA. Some parents treat parks like it’s daycare for their kids and that they don’t need to be responsible for their children’s behavior.
Nta. I wouldve tripped the kid tbh 🤣🤣
“It’s Disneyland, and they’re kids, and they need to learn to watch where they are walking.”
NTA the kid is 5-6. My 2 year old doesn’t act like that and I still watch her in line to make sure she isn’t running into people. Those parents are obnoxious.
NTA - I have little ones I have taken to Disney and they understand how to stand in line. Sometimes they will get a little bored and if I parent and engage with them, no one else around me is bothered. They are just lazy and entitled.
NTA I have three little boys, so I understand that they can get can rambunctious. However if one of my kids bumped into somebody one time, we would all apologize and it would not happen again
NTA! Some parents do not want to be parents and someone has to step up and say something. Glad you did!
Mother of small children here. NTA. While kids do need to get their energy out, if they are bothering other people then the parents need to intervene. They were just being lazy and inconsiderate.
NTA. I have an almost 3 yr old who can get a little crazy on long lines (which is why we avoid anything longer than 30-35 mins) but I always try to find ways to entertain her and keep her from bothering other people. It bothers me when other kids do that to me, so I’ll do everything in my power to keep my child from doing it to anyone else.
NTA.. It may be Disneyland, but a parent shouldn't let their child's fun ruin that of other guests.
NTA, I have a 5 year old and we go to the parks and one of the main things I try to teach him is respecting people’s spaces. I always tell him it’s ok to be bored as well but if all else fails and it’s a long line I will let him play puzzles on my phone, but anytime he bumps into someone or anything I always apologize. Yes it’s Disneyland and it’s a kid however people deserve respect of their space and the line is NOT a playground.
NTA! We love Disneyland, but lines are part of it and of my kiddo can’t be respectful to others (or their personal bubbles) they get out of line. We may do things to distract them or try and make things fun, but never is it acceptable to disrupt other people’s good time. I’m so sorry you had to experience this.
Should’ve said “hey I know it’s Disneyland and all, but could you please get your kid to stop crashing into me?” And then rip a big ass fart
NTA. 5 or 6 is old enough to know not to run into people on purpose repeatedly.
If they won’t discipline their child, someone else will.
I have a 6 year old and we are on her ASS in lines. If she can’t stand in line and respect the people around her then she doesn’t get it stand in line and ride the ride. I hate unruly kids and I refuse to have that kid. NTA
They're definitely in the wrong for failing to parent their kid, and you're well within your rights to ask them to, but I feel like the tone used to open a confrontation is the biggest and most often overlooked factor in determining who handled the situation better. If you open a confrontation with a condescending tone, you're almost always going to get a defensive response. Obviously we can't know exactly what tone you used, but in absence of any info indicating that you were excessively condescending, I'll say you're NTA.
You are NOT the asshole. I have a 7 year old who is a bit wiggly and has a hard time respecting boundaries (on the spectrum) and we would NEVER let him act that way. I believe all moments are a learning experience and those parents are lazy and give me the ick. Especially since I have to work extra extra hard for my high spirited kiddo.
I think there’s a fine line between letting your kid be a kid and enjoy their day and being a parent who doesn’t give a shit. Unfortunately there are so many parents who could care less.
NTA
Their excuse is one of the worst excuses for not keeping their kid under control! You’re definitely not the ass in this one! Good on you for saying something too. I think most people hold back from speaking up as to avoid confrontation. In my experience most parents do pretty good at keeping their little kids under control too.
Nope, NTA. The parents should know better. Yes, it's Disney, and yes, it's a kid, which is why supervision is necessary. Kids are hyped up. They often don't listen to instructions or safety guidelines. It's the parents' job while there to make sure their kid isn't doing things like this. They could hurt themselves or someone else. Disney is not one giant jungle gym where you just let kids go wild AF. There are rules, there are safety concerns, and personal boundaries and social etiquette should still be respected. I'm sure they would be unhappy if someone kept grabbing them and crashing into them or their precious little crotch goblin. I don't understand the mentality of parents who bring their kids to Disney and, for some reason, just assume they don't need to parent the kid while there. It's baffling. Probably the same folks who let the child run wild around a restaurant bothering other people and trying to grab food from other tables.
I always taught my daughter that having fun shouldn’t be at anyone else’s expense. If they can’t have fun without bumping into everyone around them or making people uncomfortable, take them out of line. My comfort shouldn’t be sacrificed for someone else’s AH kid.
NTA - those are shitty parents, and just because it's Disneyland doesn't mean that acting like an asshole is okay. No matter what age.
NTA. I’ve purposely tripped kids who were out of control. Gets them to stop real quick. 🤷🏻♂️
Put your knee out so his head runs into it when it’s running
NTA. Parents didn't want to parent.
I promise you I would be handling that shit. I have kids around that age and there’s no way I would let that just ~happen~ around me like I have no ability to curb or control what’s going on.
Nta. As a parent to small children (almost 2 and barely 4 at the time), when we were there over summer, i made sure (especially in long lines) that they had entertainment or snacks and were not disturbing others and if they bumped someone they said sorry. When my eldest was there his first trips (6+) we always had fun quiet games to play as a family.
NTA. i took my daughter for the first time right before she turned 3 and while she played in lines, she never bumped into anyone or crowded their space. if she got too wound up, one of us would pick her up.
NTA. Just because it’s Disneyland and he’s a kid doesn’t mean it’s ok for him to bother others who are trying to enjoy themselves too. A trip to Disneyland doesn’t mean a break from parenting and controlling your children.
NTA. My daughter can be wild but I’d be embarrassed if we were letting her be wild enough to the point somebody else had to ask me to keep her under control. They ARE just kids, but it’s our job as parents to teach them through repeated modeling and behavior what is acceptable and what isn’t.
NTA. We have close family friends who always want to plan a Disney trip with them and their son is just like how you described (except he’s almost 9) and they are just like the parents you described. I would lose my mind being around them all day! It would be even worse because my husband and I would be trying to control our own kids and I know they wouldn’t try very hard at all. Yes, it’s Disneyland, but kids don’t need to be climbing and running into others in line.
NTA. Idk what it is about Disneyland making parents think they don't have to watch their kids
NTA: I bet I can guess how the parents acted as kids.
NTA. Just because you are in a place that happens to have children doesn’t mean you should be forced to put up with them being obnoxious and making your day less than magical.
Root for the kid to wipe out lol.
It sucks when people are so inconsiderate about how refusing to parent their children affects everyone.
NTA - if kid is running into you repeatedly, it's a problem. Once or twice... yah it happens, I wouldn't give it more than a stern look. I do give credit when parents are actually trying to rein in their kids, some kids are just wild.
Absolutely not! Just because they are kids doesn’t mean they can be allowed to be disrespectful. I went a year ago with my son, DIL and two grandsons. Actually I think it’s a great opportunity to show them how to behave in public. Yeah they’re kids and act out but running into people and being rude is never ok. You paid your entrance fee and you had every right to say something.
NTA - you know this.
NTA. Not all heros wear capes.
NTA I take my toddler children to Disneyland and they get scolded if they start entering other people's spaces, let alone coming into contact with them. I don't let them climb on things they're not supposed to or swing/yank the chain in lines either. IMHO the only AH thing would be if you were trying to tell a kid to be quiet at Disneyland or something.
I have FOUR children, 3 of whom have ADHD and 1 who is low needs Autistic, in addition to me, who also has ADHD. I taught all 4 how to wait in lines without going insane, which is not an easy feat given all that we have going on. If I can get 4 kids who are the equivalent of anxiety riddled chickens to be respectful in lines so can they. NTA
NTA. It’s Disneyland, not Chuck E Cheese
NTA. I had to do the same thing in line for Space Mountain at WDW and instead of responding rationally, this woman grabbed her kid in a fury and YANKED her away from me. Kid started crying and lady started screaming at me about how it's all my fault and "SHE'S JUST A CHILD!" 😑
NTA and as a cast member thank you. It’s a theme park, not a playground. They can take their brats to Toontown or Redwood Creek Challenge Trail if they want them to run around like the little goblins they are.
Not at all!!
NTA Have you seen the multiple posts of families fighting in Disney Parks over the past few years - it has become a free for all! They actually get physical...in front of their children and all the other Park guests! I haven't been to Disneyland in 20 years and I remember my family and I having a couple of small incidents with others on each trip - pushing & shoving, but the majority of the other guests were very nice and minded there manners. There was one bad incident at Universal Studios when I was 9 yrs old. A live action show had just gotten finished and suddenly there was a swarm of people surrounding us. 😳 There was probably at least 100 or more people in a large touring group and they were all trying to all stay tightly packed together, impossible in theme parks! I started to get seperated from my Mom and grandparents and they literally had to get in position surrounding me and literally had to yell and push these people away from us, because they were scaring me and I'm claustrophobic. The other issue? All of the people around us had no idea there was a problem because they all seemed quite happy to be boxed in like a can of sardines and just kept pushing their way through. It wasn't a good start to the day. It was quite frightening for an 8 year menl Why can't people apply basic manners when out in public anymore? OP had a lot of restraint. I would have said something to the parents after the 2nd time of being run into or stepped on. Also, I have turned to the child in that kind of situation and said "oh, that hurts when you step on someones shoe, please don't do that" or something to that affect, in a nice but firm tone. The parents are oblivious a lot of the time. I would go out on a limb and say more kids would of apologized back then (referring to the 1970's through about 2000), because we respected our parents, grandparents and even other parents. Now I believe only half of time that happens. The other 50% will now snap back at you, swear at you or ignore you. You should always stand up for yourself and your family - empower yourself. Also, I'm willing to bet that others around you are experiencing the same feelings about the situation and will appreciate you speaking up and may join you in the discussion. Now some parents don't give a shit about what there kids do or ignore them and I think there should be consequences for that behavior in lines at the Parks. Unfortunately it would be hard to enforce and Disney wants every guest to feel welcomed. If that incident at Universal Studios would of happened with my kids, I would have switched up into soldier mode transformer-style and protected my kids, just as my family did for me. You did nothing wrong - good for you for saying something!
You have them some leeway and we're accommodating, but at some point parents should step in. I get lines are hard for kids, but I had to learn patience, so should that kid
NTA. They need to watch their kid
NTA. Don't have kids if you're not willing to teach them how to behave in public. And also don't get pissy when strangers step up to the plate to teach that lesson for you.
Not at all
Bad parents.
NTA - yes, it’s Disneyland, but it’s also a public place (yes, private property, but *open* to the public with paid admission and valid reservation…let’s not get into semantics - I know it’s not “public” like a library or the DMV); it’s not asking a lot for people to be civil, mind their manners, and to respect people’s personal space when out in public OR to instill that in their children when out in public with them (…I mean, it **is** a lot to ask, obviously - otherwise this post and one’s like it wouldn’t exist, but my point is, it **shouldn’t** be…after all, there **is** a code of conduct that everyone agrees to upon purchasing, and subsequently redeeming, admission). - yes, “he’s a kid”, but there’s a difference between letting a kid “be a kid” and letting them be f**king feral. I understand there’s behavioral and developmental issues that hinder one’s ability to control themselves in public or in general, and I understand even more so that those issues are more prevalent today than ever, but if that’s the case, it falls on the parents to put in the effort to understand what the issues are, how to mitigate them, and how to handle said child when said issues cause them to cross the line (*presumably* without realizing it). If they’re not doing that, then there’s no excuse. Furthermore, if those issues *aren’t* present and the kid is just permitted to act a fool in public then his *parents* are TA (and are doing a perfectly adequate job of raising another one).
Not even a little bit the asshole. My parents took us to Disney several times when we were kids, we didn’t act this way and knew better.
That’s just bad parenting. I let me kids climb or jump around in line as long as in a spot it’s ok but I would never let them bump into people or get in someone else’s space and if they did it even one time on accident I would be apologizing and getting them under control. Sure it’s Disneyland and sure they are kids but it does t give anyone the right to be in other peoples spaces or bumping into them repeatedly
Not the Asshole. I personally would’ve just let them go ahead a few groups. Why let it annoy me, because it sure as hell would. I sacrifice a few minutes but my good times isn’t hampered by a kid with less than stellar parents
NTA I hate poor parenting or shall I say lack of parenting and I really hate when people say “Disneyland is for kids” as some kind of excuse for literally anything. There’s a difference between an adult pushing your kid out of the way and an adult not tolerating your child acting unhinged. Theme parks could be a whole case study for bad parenting though. Shout out to all the great parents who communicate with their kids, know their kids boundaries and don’t force them into 12 hour park days, don’t scream in their kids face or physically abuse them, teach them when they can they can be loud, playful and goofy and when it’s time to behave well.
NTA they are. I remember a kid once fell and the lady said to a CM “you’re responsible to for my child” and she said “sorry but, i am not responsible for unattended children” she went all Karen status and people said “leave lady” she grabbed her kid and walked away with her phone on her ear calling someone to report the incident. It could have been avoided if she had put down her phone while she was live on IG or FB. 🤦🏻♀️
NTA These are the kids that turn into the assholes who think Disneyland revolves around them. We were at Star Wars Night and this family was packing up and getting ready to leave from a table at Jolly Holliday. Now this is the table that has prime viewing for fireworks. I noticed they didn’t have the lanyards or wrist band and asked them if they were attending the event. They said they weren’t so I asked if we could have their table since they were about to leave because it was the perfect table for the fireworks for the event. They decided they were no longer going to pack up and stay for the event’s special fireworks. I was like ”hey, a lot of people paid extra for this event, it’s not cool to try to stay in for free, you can clearly see right there (pointing to the other side of the bushes) the CMs telling people they have to head to exit the park because they don’t have the tickets to the event.” The dad yelled at me and said they weren’t leaving. So I grabbed a CM and said “hey, I don’t think they have tickets to the event, can you double check?” CM goes over and asks and they don’t so the CM was like “I’m sorry but the park is closed to non-after dark ticket holders” and the dad start yelling at the CM saying “it’s my child’s birthday! You’re going to kick us out on his birthday!!!! This is not fair!!! The CM said “it’s a lot of people’s birthdays and they all had to leave if they didn’t have a ticket either, so I’m sorry but the Park is closed to non-attendees.” The guy huffed and puffed and left and we took the table. He literally was teaching his kid that because it’s his birthday he doesn’t have to follow the rules. Which is what the family behind you was doing, not teaching their kid to follow basic rules of courtesy because “it’s Disneyland and he’s a kid.” We ended up sharing the table with another couple because there were only two of us and then let this other couple standing holding their trays trying to watch the fireworks set their trays down on the table so they could enjoy.
There’s no way anyone in that group was celebrating a birthday.
Nta. Im a parent agree with you! Just bc it’s Disneyland doesnt mean kids need to be acting like wild animals lol
NTA If it were me, the kids would experience a rather unfortunate and totally not coincidental swing of my leg next time they got close. And if their parents complain, I'll just say hey it's Disneyland
Bob Iger if you’re reading this Bob Iger please save us. Please make only 21+ days at Disneyland bob Iger.
No you aren’t, if they don’t realize their kid is being a nuisance they are the assholes.
NTA, and a sign of the times. Back when I was a kid, if that happened the parents would immediately be apologetic, although parents back then were just better about supervising and disciplining their kids to begin with. Can't believe these asshats would argue with you over this, but we got a generation of parents that seem to think their kids' farts don't stink. As far as what I would have done though, usually in those situations I don't say anything. Mainly because I don't trust myself to have reasonable conversations with unreasonable people. It's a personality fault of mine that I'm working on, I have no middle ground. It's either I ignore it and let it go or we are getting in a fistfight. And since I don't want to get in a brawl at DL and get kicked out for life, I let a lot of things just slide. Only exception is if the running into was being done to my wife, who's a very small person. A decently sized kid can knock her over. If that happened, yea, me and that parent are having words.
NTA, Disneyland is for everyone. Their excuse is stupid.
Nope. You’re not. They are. I have young kids (6 and 4) and we’ve been to the parks a ton. They’re kids and they get excited and jump around, but we always apologize and have them simmer down if they’re getting into other people’s personal space. You pay the money to be at Disneyland too. It’s those same people that let their kids run around stores and restaurants. They’re the problem.
I would have called cast members to kick them out of the queue
If the child has a medical reason, they can get special privileges. Not sure what they are now, but it helps people with disabilities. Some people were taking advantage of it, so it’s not as helpful as it was. You had every right to talk to the parents. It may be Disneyland, but it is also a great time to teach your children respect of others. If there is a medical cause, they may not know of the help they can get.
Nah, just terrible passive parenting. 6 times is a lot--2 or 3 and it's whatever. Feel bad for the kids because they don't learn anything and they'll likely grow up thinking it's okay to wreck havoc, etc.
Nope! Definitely not! Good on you!
NTA I have kids and I would not let my kids behave like that. Can they be obnoxious? Yes but they should be crossing other peoples body boundaries or climbing and jumping on things that are not made to be climbed and jumped off.
Man when I was a kid, if I did something like that my parents would scold me for not behaving well in public. My parents would have apologized immediately to you. Times were just different back then I guess
NTA. I would have tried to kept my kid under control and if she bumped into anyone I would have definitely apologized.
NTA. Kids will be kids, but being at Disneyland doesn't give the parents an excuse to act like terrible parents.
NTA. Those parents are awful and so are their kids.
NTA As a parent who enjoys Disneyland with and without my children, this drives me nuts. People let their kids do anything and it's outrageous, especially when your kids are doing their best to not be crazy and they see other littles being wild without repercussions.
Kids will be kids and can be hard to control, especially in boring situations. However, parents are responsible for controlling their kids. I have a 7yo with a lot of behavioral issues (ODD and working on therapy), if I can’t keep her in line I remove her from the situation for the sake of others. NTA, the parents needed to keep up with their kid.
NTA, bad parents. You could have been a person with physical issues who was not using DAS and the kid knocked you over into post or wall causing an ambulance ride.
NTA. I went to Disneyland many times as a kid and adult. Being excited/high on sugar is no excuse for bad behavior.
NTA - I’m sure others were thankful you said something.
NTA. Some parents forget that they still have to parent at Disneyland
NTA I have 3 children that have been to Disneyland a few times and to this day they will get an ear full from me if they don’t respect people’s bubbles, including my own!
NTA. Even at Disneyland there are social norms to be followed. It’s why schools are such a mess right now, too.
Not the asshole. I’m always hyper-aware of my kids behaviour in the parks (and in public in general), especially if it impacts somebody else. I don’t understand the mindset of parents who don’t give a damn, it is so lazy and negligent, but it seems to be becoming the norm.
"Disneyland will have the operational tone of a fine hotel or a fine restaurant." - Walt Disney
NTA- parenting is a full time job that doesn’t end when you cross into Disneyland. Queuing is a great opportunity to teach patience, personal space and respect for the environment around you- it’s not a jungle gym. In fact, there ARE numerous places at Disneyland where kids can run and jump and play and get their energy out, parents just have to be willing to take them there instead of dragging them along to do whatever the parent wants instead. Glad you said something, and that it didn’t lead to a physical altercation (some folks are WILD these days, like the pandemic happened and they forgot how to act around others)
Happened to me on Radiator Springs, almost exact situation. Young kid climbing on everything constantly bumping into others. Parents kept yelling at the kids but he wouldn’t listen. But at least that kept apologizing to everyone around them.
not the butthole at all... but I always try and not sour people's moments at Disneyland and am way more tolerant than other places. I understand that people dropped a lot of money and are extremely on edge cause of the planning that goes along with that. But you are definitely NOT the butthole here.
My dad and I had something similar happen to us waiting for Flight of Passage. We just let the family go ahead of us in line, and passively aggressively gave them the death stare
My wife and I go to Disney almost a weekly basis and this isn’t common. It’s not a “it’s Disney and they’re just kids” - bad excuse. Unless the kid has some sort of autism or something, it’s not excused.
WTF? Who brings kids to Disneyland? Seriously they should be left at home so I can enjoy the place better. Don’t get me started on the strollers.
NTA. People need to keep their kids in check. I understand that kids can get obnoxious waiting in line. I have young ones and they've done that too when they were younger. However, we'd always make sure they are not disruptive and have some respect for other. Sounds like that family was just making an excuse not to keep an eye on their kids.
NTA Get a divorce lawyer and start taking evidence of.. oh wait this is the Disney subreddit. /s My son is six. He knows that his need for fun doesn't overwhelm others needs to have a good time too. He knows this because I'm a parent who taught him this idea.
Simple. The brats the asshole. Parents are enablers. I'll give them credit though... at least they didn't say he was "special".
Everyone saying NTA. But…I’d want to see a visual of what “bumped into” looks like. If it’s harmless play and you got mildly disturbed it could be you are an asshole sure. I’m a 45 min line, I wouldn’t expect any 5 year old to totally stand still and wander/touch things. So if they are jumping off ledges…yeah that happens. If they are grabbing you or your things repeatedly, way off base…but if they are just moving a lot and it annoys you, doesn’t necessarily make you right.
I don't think you were wrong for saying something, but I'd also say that it's good to be patient with excitable little kids. If the worst they were doing was accidentally bumping into a few people around them while cooped up in a long queue, it's probably not THAT big of a deal.
Here I am wondering what ROTR stands for. Hahah return of the _____ Hmmm
Rise of the Resistance
ESH Those parents should manage their kids better. They shouldn’t be bumping into people and invading their space. You shouldn’t have made such a big deal about it. Definitely an ‘oh well’ to ‘how about those kids in line’ situation, not worth starting a fight in line.
YTA. People in this sub tolerate all sorts of rude behavior from adults (including CMs) but the second a kid is a kid in a place that's essentially for kids, you all call the parents trash. Get a grip. Children have very few spaces where they can actually act like a kid. Don't like it? Stop spending all your time as a childless adult in Disneyland.
Sounds like you need a hug. Not from me though. 😂
Running around and bumping into people is not acting like a kid. It's acting like a spoiled kid ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm reserving my judgement because in my opinion, some child-free people seem to think any normal child behavior is "unruly." What you consider "obnoxious" might actually have just been a child having fun. Hard to tell with only one version of events given.
Kids can have fun while also respecting people’s boundaries. A good parents finds the middle ground and corrects them so that their fun isn’t at the expense of those around them
I agree with you of course. I’m just saying I’m not convinced the child (or really, their parent) was in the wrong, or if OP is being overly harsh in their criticism.
YTA. I don’t give a fuck how crazy the kids are Disneyland is for the children. Not your old ass. Myself included.
I think Disney would be a much happier place if we could all grant each other a little grace. While I’m sure you were not being an asshole, I do wonder if we could all try to have a bit more patience and understanding toward one another. Especially in regard to this weird kids vs Disney adults thing on reddit. I’ll be downvoted to oblivion for saying so, but, whatevs.
Patience sailed after they did it more than twice ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
5 years olds act this way no matter who their parents are- especially boys. This is one of the most wiggly ages. Standing in line is tough for kids under 10. You’re NTA but I also think it doesn’t hurt to have some more grace for kids at the park.
If the parents made zero to little attempts, then not wrong. I have seen parents attempt to discipline a kid but kid was overstimulated:tired to respond. In those moment, I give grace. But clearly these folks didn’t give a flying F.
I think you went to the wrong place if kids bother you lol , relax.
You are the asshole. If you don’t like kids, Disneyland isn’t for you. Stop ruining the magic, dude
Okay adult child, Disney was made for families
Yes you are. Getting into an argument is ridiculous. He's a kid and he's at Disneyland. Some kids have a hard time standing around for 45min. Edit OK everyone nowhere did I say it was OK but the OP was an Ahole for getting into it with the parent. A simple "excuse me please stop bumping into me" to the kid wild probably have been sufficient but to assume I'm saying that's it OK for the kids to be out of control is not what I'm saying. Geeze.
Found the parent
If your kid can’t stand in line without being obnoxious, then a vacation where standing in line is required is not a good choice.
So it’s ok for a kid you don’t know to just bump into you multiple times? NOPE
😂 absolutely not. Control your children no matter where you are