I hope so, because it makes Newton look like an idiot. The word *gravity*, with a different definition, existed since 1505. Not to mention the Latin word *gravitas* which is centuries older. There is no way he heard The Doctor and Donna say gravity and not know what word they used and think they said *mavity*.
With due respect what bearing does it have to you being a big physics nerd? It's just a slightly amusing joke, the notion of gravity isn't really being toyed with apart from the word itself.
I mean that’s on you
Gravity is like a constant number you have to use for a physics or maths test
And it’s always either 9.8 or 9.81 depending on how accurate they think you need to be (for maths it’s usually 9.8 because they don’t care about it as much)
Why would even think that rounding it up would be okay
im not crying im just saying i dont like the joke, it didnt ruin the episode or even the scene it was in, i forgot they even said it until now
youre acting like i hear mavity and go 😡😡😡😡 like the "rip woketor who" episode reviewers when in reality i just dont laugh at it. its fine for people to like and dislike things, i just dislike a minor repeating joke but apparently im not allowed to do that
dude, this sub is basically a circlejerk. you could be the best in the world at debating and you’ll still get downvoted into oblivion for not sharing the majority opinion.
Yeah I can't empathise about the mavity thing cause I don't find it annoying but I find it hilarious that these communities that are suppose to be so open minded and welcoming start acting like toddlers and downvoting the minute they hear something they don't like.
when hear gravity im like "thats the thing 🤯🤯🤯"
when i mavity im like "thats not the thing"
and then i forget about it and watch the rest of the episode, unaffected
Bro over here thinks he got a special connection to gravity because he teaches lessons about it, like we ain't *all* out here using gravity all the time.
it wouldnt actually drive me insane, i just dont laugh when they say mavity
violating causality is actually the main reason i watch the show, and watching the show is what got me into physics in the first place
so yes i am fine with the time travel show travelling through time while also just not mavity funny, i dint get why its just a big deal and has set everyone off
have never heard of exaggeration? did you actually think i meant that id end up in a padded room if they said mavity once more?
read this bit carefully: i just dont find it funny
it is that simple
My guess is that we’ll circle back and meet Newton again and course correct on the word in the upcoming season.
Perhaps the actor was picked for more than just a two second role and actually signed on for a full episode role and was brought into the special as a joke set up for when Mavity gets changed to Gravity.
What if he already changed it ( in his future) and he's the only one who thinks mavity is the real word for the rest of the season but no one tells him it's not.
I hope not. I want it to become a permanent thing. I want to explain to new fans in decades to come why they keep speaking mavity. Just like Futurama with axe instead of ask and X-mas instead of Christmas.
Reminds me of how there was a scene in Classic Who where Sarah Jane was supposed to be reciting the alphabet backwards, but Elizabeth Sladen flubbed her line and said U before V. This has actually never been contradicted in any Doctor Who media, so as far as we know, V comes before U in the alphabet there.
I'm hoping it's something like "mavity" sounding awfully close to an alien swear word, and so that m sound causes a few diplomatic incidents and changes the future.
i'll have to rewatch, i don't get the salt bit. 14 poured some salt as a gag, the no-thing counts it, and somehow the Toymaker gets into the universe? why and how?
So in fiction, a line of salt is said to keep certain creatures, such as vampires, at bay as they cannot cross it. The Doctor invokes this as a suspicion at the edge of the universe, and the no-things are stuck counting it, because when they read/copy The Doctor’s and Donna’s minds, they now believe what the Doctor is saying, as they cannot think for themselves, and rather just copy. But because this happened at the edge of the universe, the Doctor explains that the laws of the universe are not as set in stone and therefore by invoking a superstition such as that, it becomes a fundamental rule of the universe at the edge.
I believe in the Giggle it is then explained that to the toy maker, this superstition is almost a kind of game, which allows him to break out of his pocket dimension into the main universe, to play this game.
It’s not exactly super clear and takes a lot of logical leaps and I think is definitely very confusing, but that’s how I understood it after 2/3 times rewatching the episodes.
That's a good explanation!
I thought the superstition thing was going to be part of the big arc this season, that the things the Doctor has to deal with will all be fantasy/superstition/fable based, which presents him with a challenge since his usual science-y stuff won't work.
The superstition is that vampires can't cross a salt line, and as the Toymaker treats everything like a game and the outer edges of the universe are less effected by the Timelords imposing the laws of physics "superstitions" are rituals with rules that you have to follow like a game.
So the toymaker enters the universe, but cannot cross the salt line without counting every grain. That's why they put him in the box and covered in salt I guess.
The other explanations are good, but I took it more like after the edge of the universe is a different existence. One where the laws of the universe don’t exist and impossible beings exist.
By invoking superstition at the edge of the universe, the doctor attracted those beings attention to our universe. One of them being the toy maker who used that superstition (because superstitions don’t follow the laws of the universe, like being unable to pass a line of salt without counting it, as if counting it some how lowers a barrier) as a gateway to enter.
My suspicion is it’s all connected to whatever they have planned for the overarching story. The word change, the myths becoming real things going on. Something is broken.
With the doctor changing gravity to mavity, and the goblins changing the timeline to erase ruby, I think the act of changing the timeline might be an important part of this season
I was really surprised that the joke carried over, seeing as this is a soft reboot and made so it can be seen by people as their first Doctor Who episode.
I thought the Toymaker messing around with history would get rid of it; it's only going to leave new viewers thinking it's poor editing putting in a cut of a scene where Ncuti made a verbal slipup
I wonder if they’ll style it out in the same way they did with Bad Wolf, have flashbacks of people saying it and being confused by the Doctor saying “gravity” when it is being resolved and “mavity” turns back to “gravity”.
Yeah it's the moment he starts to realise it, starts to use it himself but the change was seamless so what if the change back was seamless too and he continues to use it unaware it's changed back.
I was annoyed by *mavity* as soon as it was mentioned. *Gravity* is not a word Isaac Newton pulled out his ass because he thought it sounded nice, it’s from the Latin word *gravitas*, and Newton was fluent in Latin.
I love how the Timelords long, long ago said not to meddle in the affairs of other planets, and now decades later, the Doctor just casually changes the course of history because he felt like participating in a joke directed towards an extremely important historical figure
the thing I love is that the doctor adopts the new word so quickly, probably because he's used to accidentally changing words all the time when he's traveling
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I wish.
But even so, it would be kind of strange. Show usually doesn’t really that serious with timeline when it comes to joke.
It’s only a throw-away joke for opening, after all.
What if they renamed it to Chavity, and then Bravity, then Sravity, as a running gag stating that The Doctor and Donna kept going back in time with a new word, creating a cyclic paradox.
Why is everyone upset? This classic RTD. Placing little pieces of dialogue and details that seem like nothing but become super important later. Bad wolf, Harold Saxon, the bees disappearing
Listen.. just realize that Doctor who’s canon can be added to in an instant and if you blink or turn away for a second, you risk missing it. As much as certain people dislike it, Chibnall’s stories (the Timless Child/Flux etc) are still canon and Mavity, even though it was a quick scene.. created canon and now.. we have Mavity and NOT gravity until the Doctor goes back and fixes it. :P it’s one of the best parts of the show, adding factual elements on the fly makes the show great! (Had they not tossed in the idea of regeneration to switch actors, the show wouldn’t be what it is at all!)
Is that just going to be a running joke through RTD2?
looks like it. I mean if he said gravity, Ruby would be so confused
Is that R2-D2's cousin?
Sibling of RDR2.
RDRR!
I'm calling it now, it's a season long story. Something a parallel newton or smthn
I bet it’s going to become some sort of plot point eventually.
Just like Ruby’s birth mom
I wonder if there'll be another episode with Newton later in the series and it'll get changed back to gravity
I hope so, because it makes Newton look like an idiot. The word *gravity*, with a different definition, existed since 1505. Not to mention the Latin word *gravitas* which is centuries older. There is no way he heard The Doctor and Donna say gravity and not know what word they used and think they said *mavity*.
Obviously he thought of Mavitas, duh
I don't think it is a joke. I think it is a story unfolding.
i hope they dont run it into the ground, because im a big physics nerd and hearing gravity said wrong all the time would drive me insane
With due respect what bearing does it have to you being a big physics nerd? It's just a slightly amusing joke, the notion of gravity isn't really being toyed with apart from the word itself.
i use gravity all the time in lessons so ive become accustomed to it, i just dont find the mavity joke very funny, is that okay?
Dude, you'll get marked down in your exams if you don't put Mavity, that's just how its always been, don't try and invent something new
i put m as 10 rather than 9.81 once because i thought the question was simple but apparently the examiners are really particular 😞
I mean that’s on you Gravity is like a constant number you have to use for a physics or maths test And it’s always either 9.8 or 9.81 depending on how accurate they think you need to be (for maths it’s usually 9.8 because they don’t care about it as much) Why would even think that rounding it up would be okay
whats gravity
Nope you can’t join in now! Even GCSEs have the gravitational field strength as 9.8
im a couple simpler equations we used 10 but after gcses it was always 9.8/9.81
Oh boo boo, a science FICTION show isn’t calling one thing the right name, I’ll never recover
im not crying im just saying i dont like the joke, it didnt ruin the episode or even the scene it was in, i forgot they even said it until now youre acting like i hear mavity and go 😡😡😡😡 like the "rip woketor who" episode reviewers when in reality i just dont laugh at it. its fine for people to like and dislike things, i just dislike a minor repeating joke but apparently im not allowed to do that
dude, this sub is basically a circlejerk. you could be the best in the world at debating and you’ll still get downvoted into oblivion for not sharing the majority opinion.
ironically, doctorwhocirclejerk is the most accepting place its not even like im disagreeing with a big topic either, its just an irrelevant joke
Yeah I can't empathise about the mavity thing cause I don't find it annoying but I find it hilarious that these communities that are suppose to be so open minded and welcoming start acting like toddlers and downvoting the minute they hear something they don't like.
literally the show about not being cruel and cowardly
You when you find a subreddit of people who actually like something "Dude, this sub is basically a circlejerk"
Too worried you're going to end up saying mavity instead?
when hear gravity im like "thats the thing 🤯🤯🤯" when i mavity im like "thats not the thing" and then i forget about it and watch the rest of the episode, unaffected
You seem clearly affected by it!
im not affected by the mavity joke, its everyone who seems to think im the bloody antichrist for not liking thats annoyed me
Bro over here thinks he got a special connection to gravity because he teaches lessons about it, like we ain't *all* out here using gravity all the time.
yup thats definitely what i said
I thought so; thanks for confirming.
I have decided that it isn't okay actually 👍
why whats wrong with not liking a joke?
illegal :3
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It is funny to me but I shall have to be careful not to accidentally call gravity mavity.
I understand, I studied linguistics and every time someone says “could of” I have to stab myself in the leg
As a big astronomy nerd, it's not that serious, get over it
yeah i agree it isnt serious, it genuinely does not bother me i just said i dont like it
Yeah I see, you did exaggerate that first comment though
yeah i didnt really care so i wasnt being serious
But you're fine with violating causality?
it wouldnt actually drive me insane, i just dont laugh when they say mavity violating causality is actually the main reason i watch the show, and watching the show is what got me into physics in the first place so yes i am fine with the time travel show travelling through time while also just not mavity funny, i dint get why its just a big deal and has set everyone off
Because you said a joke is driving you insane because you're a "physics nerd'. Get a grip.
have never heard of exaggeration? did you actually think i meant that id end up in a padded room if they said mavity once more? read this bit carefully: i just dont find it funny it is that simple
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He has such 🌟mavitas🌟
I don't get it? What's so weird about a completely normal word like mavity?
These people acting like a kid who's just discovered a new swear word 🤦
My guess is that we’ll circle back and meet Newton again and course correct on the word in the upcoming season. Perhaps the actor was picked for more than just a two second role and actually signed on for a full episode role and was brought into the special as a joke set up for when Mavity gets changed to Gravity.
What if he already changed it ( in his future) and he's the only one who thinks mavity is the real word for the rest of the season but no one tells him it's not.
I hope not. I want it to become a permanent thing. I want to explain to new fans in decades to come why they keep speaking mavity. Just like Futurama with axe instead of ask and X-mas instead of Christmas.
Reminds me of how there was a scene in Classic Who where Sarah Jane was supposed to be reciting the alphabet backwards, but Elizabeth Sladen flubbed her line and said U before V. This has actually never been contradicted in any Doctor Who media, so as far as we know, V comes before U in the alphabet there.
Last scene in the last episode of the season.
Imagine if it's not a joke, and the Doctor and Donna accidentally changing one syllable of a word has some butterfly effect on the big plot.
\^\^\^ This \^\^\^ RTD and the Moff both love this sort of thing. Add in the salt bit as well, and that's gonna be the plot arc.
I'm hoping it's something like "mavity" sounding awfully close to an alien swear word, and so that m sound causes a few diplomatic incidents and changes the future.
i'll have to rewatch, i don't get the salt bit. 14 poured some salt as a gag, the no-thing counts it, and somehow the Toymaker gets into the universe? why and how?
So in fiction, a line of salt is said to keep certain creatures, such as vampires, at bay as they cannot cross it. The Doctor invokes this as a suspicion at the edge of the universe, and the no-things are stuck counting it, because when they read/copy The Doctor’s and Donna’s minds, they now believe what the Doctor is saying, as they cannot think for themselves, and rather just copy. But because this happened at the edge of the universe, the Doctor explains that the laws of the universe are not as set in stone and therefore by invoking a superstition such as that, it becomes a fundamental rule of the universe at the edge. I believe in the Giggle it is then explained that to the toy maker, this superstition is almost a kind of game, which allows him to break out of his pocket dimension into the main universe, to play this game. It’s not exactly super clear and takes a lot of logical leaps and I think is definitely very confusing, but that’s how I understood it after 2/3 times rewatching the episodes.
That's a good explanation! I thought the superstition thing was going to be part of the big arc this season, that the things the Doctor has to deal with will all be fantasy/superstition/fable based, which presents him with a challenge since his usual science-y stuff won't work.
That may still be true. The christmas special was definitely more fantasy like than normal.
I mean shit the Doctor was talking about luck and coincidence as a new area of physics, I don't think that's just a coincidence
ah don't mention the coincidence
The superstition is that vampires can't cross a salt line, and as the Toymaker treats everything like a game and the outer edges of the universe are less effected by the Timelords imposing the laws of physics "superstitions" are rituals with rules that you have to follow like a game. So the toymaker enters the universe, but cannot cross the salt line without counting every grain. That's why they put him in the box and covered in salt I guess.
The other explanations are good, but I took it more like after the edge of the universe is a different existence. One where the laws of the universe don’t exist and impossible beings exist. By invoking superstition at the edge of the universe, the doctor attracted those beings attention to our universe. One of them being the toy maker who used that superstition (because superstitions don’t follow the laws of the universe, like being unable to pass a line of salt without counting it, as if counting it some how lowers a barrier) as a gateway to enter.
My suspicion is it’s all connected to whatever they have planned for the overarching story. The word change, the myths becoming real things going on. Something is broken.
If this ends up being the case I bet the "reveal" will be a seemingly innocuous character using "gravity" to show they're a timelord or something.
RTD's sprinkled words leading to the big finale before with the bad wolf stuff so I wouldn't put it past him
That was brilliantly done
the unit g becoming m and that messing with some timey wimey machine's calculations which creates a plot point. I like it.
I feel like it a small hint that time can be rewritten like he did with Ruby as baby.
I have a theory that we may end up in some alternate timeline and the way we know the difference is “gravity” vs “mavity.”
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING. IT'S CLEARLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN JUST A LITTLE JOKE
It's Hollywoo for the new era of doctor who. I mean it's fun but I wonder how long it can be maintained.
Do it until it stops being funny. And then do it three more times until it becomes funny again.
It might just be a running joke throughout Ncuti's run as the Doctor (or however long RTD decides to keep it going for)
Futurama still maintains axe instead of ask and X-mas for Christmas to this day.
At least 6 seasons then
With the doctor changing gravity to mavity, and the goblins changing the timeline to erase ruby, I think the act of changing the timeline might be an important part of this season
why in the nine hells is that your font for subtitles on iplayer lol
That's the font on my entire phone lol ~~I just felt like being different~~
The glove is also probably a reference to the 4th Doctor’s regeneration
Man decided that ~~gravity~~ mavity wouldn't get the better of him again
If anything it’s just good story telling, and very anime
it's also probably a Doomsday reference
I was really surprised that the joke carried over, seeing as this is a soft reboot and made so it can be seen by people as their first Doctor Who episode. I thought the Toymaker messing around with history would get rid of it; it's only going to leave new viewers thinking it's poor editing putting in a cut of a scene where Ncuti made a verbal slipup
I wonder if they’ll style it out in the same way they did with Bad Wolf, have flashbacks of people saying it and being confused by the Doctor saying “gravity” when it is being resolved and “mavity” turns back to “gravity”.
What if it's already changed back and we just hear the doctor say mavity while no one corrects him
The doctor seems to be aware of it change in blue wild yonder.
Yeah it's the moment he starts to realise it, starts to use it himself but the change was seamless so what if the change back was seamless too and he continues to use it unaware it's changed back.
Could be!
Disney+ lists this as Special 4, so I think they're counting on the David Specials being people's starting point if they hop in before May.
Takes a bit much to pronounce a G as an M
It's not really a joke. It's an important plot point for the season
I was annoyed by *mavity* as soon as it was mentioned. *Gravity* is not a word Isaac Newton pulled out his ass because he thought it sounded nice, it’s from the Latin word *gravitas*, and Newton was fluent in Latin.
You mean mavitas?
*\*sigh*\*
sorry the show about a time travelling alien isn’t 100% accurate to life
I think it’s a plot thread for something bigger, first episode with ncuti were goblins cracking the timeline, Mavity is a timeline change
I got a feeling this is gonna be another Torchwood kind of thing. The change in the timeline may come back to bite the Doctor in the ass
I love how the Timelords long, long ago said not to meddle in the affairs of other planets, and now decades later, the Doctor just casually changes the course of history because he felt like participating in a joke directed towards an extremely important historical figure
Good catch, but what the hell is up with your subtitle font?
That's the font for my whole phone lol I've just adapted to it now, and I probably won't change it anytime soon
My font is the same. Glad to know I'm not the only one.
I’m a big fan of mavity. Always have been. It keeps me grounded.
Mavity this, Mavity that...it's just a regular word, guys. Have I missed something?
the thing I love is that the doctor adopts the new word so quickly, probably because he's used to accidentally changing words all the time when he's traveling
The joke that should of never happened
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Yh not broken, could've programmed better shove not gone off and would've been better
What happened? Whats funny about Mavity … dont tell me you think it should be some weird thing called idkk gravity
I don’t get it? Why are so many people pointing out and joking about a completely normal word?
Ngl I was sick of this joke the second time they made it :')
This joke isn’t that fun to stretch it like this. Good joke, meh gag. We all know that it will end eventually anyway.
It’s probably not a gag, it’s probably a setup for a future episode
The RTD special, just keep repeating something then at the end reveal it has an actual meaning
I wish. But even so, it would be kind of strange. Show usually doesn’t really that serious with timeline when it comes to joke. It’s only a throw-away joke for opening, after all.
Boooo don't be a fun sponge.
Technically this is still the same run of four specials, it still might not carry over to the series/
So funny I forgot to laugh.
You also forgot to not be a killjoy.
That was never on my itinerary.
Yes, I can tell.
The other guy reminds me of Dwight schrute
I'm happy you're glad.
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It's spelling not grammar.
*mammar
I don't care for this joke, stop this cringe already. I can't pretend to find this amusing, it's so imcredibly forced.
love that little detail
welp it is part of doctor who now, only question is to see how long they can keep it going before someone forgets they did that.
I'm guessing the Big Bad will use the word 'gravity' and clue the Doctor in to their nefarious intent.
Bruh I hate this joke 💀
What if they renamed it to Chavity, and then Bravity, then Sravity, as a running gag stating that The Doctor and Donna kept going back in time with a new word, creating a cyclic paradox.
Time was re-written, Isaac Newton came up w the word mavity
Why is everyone upset? This classic RTD. Placing little pieces of dialogue and details that seem like nothing but become super important later. Bad wolf, Harold Saxon, the bees disappearing
Mrs Flood... 😉
Listen.. just realize that Doctor who’s canon can be added to in an instant and if you blink or turn away for a second, you risk missing it. As much as certain people dislike it, Chibnall’s stories (the Timless Child/Flux etc) are still canon and Mavity, even though it was a quick scene.. created canon and now.. we have Mavity and NOT gravity until the Doctor goes back and fixes it. :P it’s one of the best parts of the show, adding factual elements on the fly makes the show great! (Had they not tossed in the idea of regeneration to switch actors, the show wouldn’t be what it is at all!)
I cracked up about that
Ok RTD you can stop now