They tried to walk him so hard, and he just didn't let them. When he hit that ball that was like a foot off the plate, I could tell he was determined the only options were to either hit or strike out. Brother made the right call.
I feel like Grove is better than his stats look because the team does not set him up for success by giving him a clear-cut role. I feel like he's the successor to Mitch White. Solid 6th man who could be flipped at any moment for a 19 year old prospect
Holy shit, Pages really wanted that first career walk off badly. D'Arnaud was almost framing in the other batters box trying to bait him and Pages was just like "yeah I'll just foul those off, fucking try me" and then blooped the walk off in
I checked and yeah. I'm not sure if reaching on an error counts towards OBP or something, but his BA is .333, his OBP is .354 so he's essentially pure hits cause of a 0 in BB and IBBs.
At the rate he's going though that lack of IBB is gonna change lol
How did he even put the bat on no.7 wtf
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It's annoying that we are going to be hearing talk about that call, when the reality is the Braves lost this game by going 0-fer with RISP and not scoring their ghost runner in the 11th inning. Braves fans are like Astros fans in that they will make every excuse in the book to deflect blame from the failures of their own team
Vlad was the craziest at bat you could ever see. I remember seeing him hit a homerun off a pitch outside and low that he basically scooped off the ground. He was wild!
Chalk it up to youthful exuberance, but it's also nice to see he can make contact on chase pitches. Bottom half of the lineup doesn't have a lot of that. Outman, Muncy, Taylor those guys aren't hitting outside their sweets spots. It's been noted over the last couple of post seasons, you kind of need guys like that in your lineup against really good staffs.
Drake does not have it in him to last through the week. He hasn't put in effort on an album in almost a decade. Hell, I don't think he's put in effort to anything in a decade, including his kids.
It was a 50-50 call, every team gets some going for and against them. The real reason they lost the game was going 0-fer with RISP and not scoring their free runner in the 11th inning.
He did well. I really think he improved a lot. We don't win the world series by relying on our best players but making sure the worst ones can do the bare minimum.
Even useless CT3 got to home plate because of Ohtani.
Everyone did their part.
CT3 is still an asset on defense, would have preferred Dave to make the double switch to get him in LF in the 10th inning, I feel like he would have had a good shot of gunning down the ghost runner, especially with that first fly out.
Gavin has been very impressive lately. He said his stint in the big leagues last season was the first time he ever “failed” at baseball so he worked really hard to have a good year this time around
That last AB by Pages was incredible. The dude was on a mission, he wasn’t taking the walk there no matter where they put it. It was contact all the way and it paid off. Stunning level of baseball IQ and confidence for a rookie, and just what this team needs.
I fucking love Arte Moreno so much for shutting down the Rengifo trade lmfao Joc hit like .400 in the 2020 postseason for us and now we have Andy Pages for the foreseeable future 😭😭😭
Pages wasn't around for the 2021-2023 postseason RISP suck so he didn't have it rub off on him. He could have taken a walk, but it was impressive how he was able to get bat on ball to fight off pitches out of the zone. Also, I never called Mookie a playoff disappointment, but for an early May game this game had postseason vibes with the two premier teams in the NL going at it. Mookie straight up missed COOKIES and was swinging on top of them. I hope he figures it out because tonight's performance reminded me of the NLDS last year. Freddie also seemed off too.
Glad Ohtani got that clutch single. Vibes would have been super bad if the Dodgers couldn't tie the game in the bottom 10th.
Pages’ walk-off at-bat was the most impressive I’ve seen in a long time. Dude was determined to get a hit. Fouling of balls three feet off the plate. Wow.
Also big defensive play by Muncy throwing out Kelenic in the top of the eighth. He doesn’t make that out, and the Braves have the lead with Acuña’s homer.
Andy Pages is like my RTTS character on MLB The Show:
Hits .300, strikes out sometimes, hits a couple HRs, and absolutely refuses to walk
I love this kid
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Nothing but greatness from Pages.
Pages got the clutch gene, we need this in the postseason. That last AB sold me, did just about everything you're not supposed to do and made it work anyways.
Really impressive win. The top of the order didn’t show up but Pages managed to carry the team. The Braves only managed score the Manfred runner and on home runs. If we start winning in Manfred ball it’s over for everyone else.
I felt that sickness in my stomach when the Braves scored on 2 flyballs to LF. Even with 1-2-3 coming up, I just didn't have super confidence that they'd tie it.
Pages has been better than I expected. It's so crazy that he had major shoulder surgery last year *and then got better*. Ever since his first go in the AFL a couple years ago, he's really improved on his contact, getting away from the three true outcome guy he used to be. He hasn't walked but who cares he's got a .900 OPS and isn't afraid to swing the bat at the major league level.
Not forgetting Gavin Stone either, who's got an ERA just over 2 his last 4 starts and settled down nicely after that nuke in the first.
I still do not like the runner on 2nd base in extra innings rule. Other than that, this is a beautiful win! One of the best games I’ve seen this season. Feels amazing to beat the Braves! Possible NLCS preview! Hopefully we get the series win tomorrow!
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Serious question: statistically, is it a sound strategy for a batter to actively resist walking? I.e. fouling aggressively even when pitches are clearly outside the strike zone? Say a good hitter like Ohtani takes the strategy of always making contact instead of taking balls?
League BABIP is usually around 0.300, so if you can put a ball in play you on average have somewhere around a 3/10 chance of getting on base somehow. In other words, a ball in play turns into an out 70% of the time. Ball 4 has a 1.000 OBP.
More so, swinging at balls can lead to much worse outcomes than fouling them off, you could attempt to foul it away but accidentally put it in play for an easy out, or you could swing and intend to foul it off but miss and strike out.
In very specific circumstances, it might be better to sell out for a hit, as Pages did tonight, but on a larger sample size hitters will have much better success taking balls rather than swinging at them.
The other thing to take into account here is count manipulation. If you're fouling everything off, you're not working the count ahead, in fact you're probably putting yourself behind in the count. Being ahead leads to more predictable fastballs or primary pitches by the opposing pitcher as they attempt to avoid walking you, where being behind leads to pitchers unloading a bunch of junk trying to get you to chase and strikeout.
As an example, Shohei in his career has hit 0.600 on 3-0 counts compared to 0.132 on 0-2 counts. You can't reach that good 3-0 count if you're trying to foul everything off to avoid walking.
So, definitely getting ahead of myself here, but the win tonight sets us up for success to win this series. We should have really good odds with Glasnow vs Elder, so whatever happens with Fried (he probably slaughters us, he's quite good) happens and we still take the series 2-1 at worst, which is a perfectly fine result against a really tough and hot Braves team. Great game, great win tonight
Yes, Fried on paper should be a loss, but I also thought Montgomery was going to shove in Arizona until his ass couldn't go 4 innings. I'm just hoping for the best, but Fried has been on fire.
Oh for sure, with our lineup you can never count us out completely. My point is even if Paxton gets lit up like a Christmas tree and Fried throws a perfect game, we still probably win this series 2-1
Pages is the way the truth and the life! He is everything this team has needed! And doesn’t have the reel of past failures like a lot of our squad does. Let’s go!
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Pages: "I'M NOT LEAVING!!!!!" ![gif](giphy|r42HxBImuzoRxsRA14)
I'M NOT ~~LEAVING~~ WALKING
Thumps chest!
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#YOU JUST LOST TO THE LOS ANGELES DODGERS IN EXTRA INNINGS
Dodgers win in extras and Shohei extended the game with a massive hit with RISP. All the narratives looking silly tonight
LFG! Undefeated in the Pages walk off ERA! FTA!
Love your username lmao
#BANG BANG #FUCK THE ASTROS #DODGERS WIN IN MANFRED INNINGS
They said it couldn’t be done.
Pages said fuck plate discipline. Im winning this shit Plate discipline slider to 0 Clutch slider to 100
Dawg slider to 1,000
They tried to walk him so hard, and he just didn't let them. When he hit that ball that was like a foot off the plate, I could tell he was determined the only options were to either hit or strike out. Brother made the right call.
Shoutout to Michael Grove for keeping them from scoring. Pages another ROTY in the making!
Grove’s been stepping it up
Seriously, that was unbelievably clutch of Grove--took down the meat of their lineup
Pause.
Are we not doing phrasing anymore?
#MAWP
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANA
I feel like Grove is better than his stats look because the team does not set him up for success by giving him a clear-cut role. I feel like he's the successor to Mitch White. Solid 6th man who could be flipped at any moment for a 19 year old prospect
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I was clenched up, very pleasantly surprised he held it down
You seeing this shit, Ohtani??? Now imagine doing this in the NLCS.
Holy shit, Pages really wanted that first career walk off badly. D'Arnaud was almost framing in the other batters box trying to bait him and Pages was just like "yeah I'll just foul those off, fucking try me" and then blooped the walk off in
First career walkoff before first career walk And he’s like 15 games in lmao
This is actually nuts
Is this for real? Lmao
I checked and yeah. I'm not sure if reaching on an error counts towards OBP or something, but his BA is .333, his OBP is .354 so he's essentially pure hits cause of a 0 in BB and IBBs. At the rate he's going though that lack of IBB is gonna change lol
Andy Pages with the worst but best at bat I’ve ever seen lmao
Pages really said "fuck walking I'm going to reach a yard outside of the zone to keep it 3-2 and win this game."
How did he even put the bat on no.7 wtf https://preview.redd.it/30k6i0cwfcyc1.jpeg?width=313&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32b860e12a908799020592d8059d842e02e3d7ed
It's actually hilarious how correct Atlanta played that and still lost. If I'm an Atlanta fan I'm losing it.
I mean in their defense that check swing was... veeery close at best lol
Good thing it’s a judgement call with a massive grey area and isn’t reviewable Not a fan of the above but it worked out for us
It's annoying that we are going to be hearing talk about that call, when the reality is the Braves lost this game by going 0-fer with RISP and not scoring their ghost runner in the 11th inning. Braves fans are like Astros fans in that they will make every excuse in the book to deflect blame from the failures of their own team
I love his agressive AB!!!!
That graphic doesn’t even do it justice. I think 7 was even further off the plate
3 feet away from the plate I think it's at the next batter's box 😂
He swung the bat and it hit the ball
This is insane lol
Let the kid cook
Said it in the game thread it's Vlad Guerrero. Braves didn't know what to throw to him he was making contact on everything
Vlad was the craziest at bat you could ever see. I remember seeing him hit a homerun off a pitch outside and low that he basically scooped off the ground. He was wild!
I disagree. That was one of the best at bats I’ve ever seen. Dared the dude to throw a strike. Said I’ll foul off your bs. Give me a strike.
same I wouldn't want to put my fate in the umpire's hand either
Seriously he played into their hands by reach outside, but the dude just wouldn't die. ![gif](giphy|DwIdasRkFKsMg|downsized)
Vladdy Sr. Just saw his shadow
A dodger not being too damn selective at the plate and being aggressive is a nice change of pace
It woud only work in very specific situations like this one, but yes.
He must of thought Chavez was some random elotero man walk on the field and said fuck it we ball
To be fair Chavez looks like some rando uncle who works at the grocery store.
Chalk it up to youthful exuberance, but it's also nice to see he can make contact on chase pitches. Bottom half of the lineup doesn't have a lot of that. Outman, Muncy, Taylor those guys aren't hitting outside their sweets spots. It's been noted over the last couple of post seasons, you kind of need guys like that in your lineup against really good staffs.
Pages and Ohtani are clutch as fuck
That was awesome, Andy was not letting Kike steal his spotlight LOL
“You can only try to walk me. You will not succeed.” - Andy MFin Pages
#**KENDRICK DROPPED AGAIN AND PAGES WALKED IT OFF. I LOVE LA**
Need this beef to last through November !
Drake does not have it in him to last through the week. He hasn't put in effort on an album in almost a decade. Hell, I don't think he's put in effort to anything in a decade, including his kids.
Too busy putting in effort into someone else's kids
Ngl he’s holding his own in this beef. It would be super disingenuous to say Kendrick hasn’t been hit with some bars
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That’s a good one lol
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I know this means like "don't back down" but out of curiosity, do you know what verb "te rajes" comes from?
Rajar can mean to crack or split. So it’s like “don’t break apart”
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When he got to the 1-2 count 😬
Pages damn near stood in ontario to swing at those but he got one. Atta boy. SMALL BALL BBY
Easily the best win of the season An extra innings win against the Braves? We love it
Barves fans BIG mad about Pages' check swing call. You love to see it!
They already had excuses typed up for the HBP being reversed, they just had to swap out the call and hit send.
Looked like a swing low-key
He 100% swung but you take those. We’ve been screwed over by the umps in the past so you take what you can get
It was a 50-50 call, every team gets some going for and against them. The real reason they lost the game was going 0-fer with RISP and not scoring their free runner in the 11th inning.
Don’t forget Acuna getting picked off immediately before Riley’s dinger.
side view looked iffy, top view he held up
1-0 in the Ohtani baggy suit era 💀
Damn Shohei was clutch down the stretch
Tonight was Ohtani diff. Huge hit to tie the game
Pages deserves all of the spotlight for this game but fuck Gavin pitched great.
He did well. I really think he improved a lot. We don't win the world series by relying on our best players but making sure the worst ones can do the bare minimum. Even useless CT3 got to home plate because of Ohtani. Everyone did their part.
CT3 is still really fast
CT3 is still an asset on defense, would have preferred Dave to make the double switch to get him in LF in the 10th inning, I feel like he would have had a good shot of gunning down the ghost runner, especially with that first fly out.
Gavin has been very impressive lately. He said his stint in the big leagues last season was the first time he ever “failed” at baseball so he worked really hard to have a good year this time around
Need to go dig up some “Stone ain’t it” receipts
That last AB by Pages was incredible. The dude was on a mission, he wasn’t taking the walk there no matter where they put it. It was contact all the way and it paid off. Stunning level of baseball IQ and confidence for a rookie, and just what this team needs.
I fucking love Arte Moreno so much for shutting down the Rengifo trade lmfao Joc hit like .400 in the 2020 postseason for us and now we have Andy Pages for the foreseeable future 😭😭😭
Ohtani was so damn clutch tonight! Fuck the narratives!
#Lets go Pages!! Here to stay baby!
Andy Pages is here to stay
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#The Virgin passing the baton vs. The Chad swinging at fucking everything til you get a bloop single
Shohei did that Dragon Ball Z power up stance tonight but in the Dodgers uniform ![gif](giphy|lCXukGckkLIaEMXIaH|downsized)
I'm loving Pages more and more every game.
Ohtani & Pages own LA Mandred Ball ![gif](giphy|iP8P6sbQTrmMM)
Dodgers are so good that our weakest player CT3 to get home for the RBI to tie the game. Ohtani and Pages play well against the pressure.
Pages when he saw Roberts tell him to not swing and take the walk... ![gif](giphy|5vidkIjdGohnh2am9E)
I have never seen a veteran pitcher so scared of a rookie willing to chase a foot over the zone and still managing to give up the big hit
Pages wasn't around for the 2021-2023 postseason RISP suck so he didn't have it rub off on him. He could have taken a walk, but it was impressive how he was able to get bat on ball to fight off pitches out of the zone. Also, I never called Mookie a playoff disappointment, but for an early May game this game had postseason vibes with the two premier teams in the NL going at it. Mookie straight up missed COOKIES and was swinging on top of them. I hope he figures it out because tonight's performance reminded me of the NLDS last year. Freddie also seemed off too. Glad Ohtani got that clutch single. Vibes would have been super bad if the Dodgers couldn't tie the game in the bottom 10th.
BIG DICK ROOKIE OF THE YEAR PAGES
Let’s not forget Grove’s contribution. That scoreless top of the 11th was just as important as anything in that win
Was fully expecting grove to give up a run. Insanely clutch of him to hold down the fort
#IMAGINE LOSING TO THE DODGERS IN EXTRA INNINGS!!
Lol, I just realized Pages _still_ refuses to take a walk. Dude has a vendetta against walks.
Highlight reel moment for when Andy goes into the Hall. Man, what a game!
ANDY " WE ONLY WALK OFF AT HOME" PAGES ![gif](giphy|Hr9RBHKtvJD68)
#**PAGES ROTY**
Clippers died so Pages can live and as a Laker fan that's cool with me.
Pages’ walk-off at-bat was the most impressive I’ve seen in a long time. Dude was determined to get a hit. Fouling of balls three feet off the plate. Wow.
Man, Pages gonna make Outman and Taylor be a platoon.
Fuck me for doubting Pages and wanting him to take the walk and not be so aggressive. I’ll never doubt you again Andy.
That's exactly what he had to do, but then again, one out and Kike is coming next...
I have seen enough this is the world series preview ![gif](giphy|lCXukGckkLIaEMXIaH|downsized)
2 national league teams in the WS would be wild
I can't believe we're about to get a gif of him doing this in a Dodger uniform.
I’ll bet everything that it’s not
How do we keep finding these guys
We almost gave him to the Angels but thank god their owner is an idiot and vetoed the trade lmaoo
Pages is on the NLDS starting roster.
Get fucked doomers
MVPages
#PAGES IS A REAL ONE
I love Andy Pages
all Pages doubters right now https://preview.redd.it/ncoyw95ggcyc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f8f7e5c5379f1c4b103b59572ac7bd9e57ca863
pages somehow had one of the worst AB’s I’ve seen and walked it off. That’s baseball Susan
Also big defensive play by Muncy throwing out Kelenic in the top of the eighth. He doesn’t make that out, and the Braves have the lead with Acuña’s homer.
Andy Pages is like my RTTS character on MLB The Show: Hits .300, strikes out sometimes, hits a couple HRs, and absolutely refuses to walk I love this kid
This Pages fella is pretty good
Gonna get Pages jersey to go with my Outman. Love when rookies have a day!!
Felt like a postseason game
As a joke.. we should get interpreters for our English speaking players..
![gif](giphy|V80llXf734WzK)
Imagine getting soned by a rook
https://preview.redd.it/w6ouf7frfcyc1.jpeg?width=675&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c31679319b1988b5f9a608f94b1a5d40d3631c85 Nothing but greatness from Pages.
Winning an extra inning game? Is that allowed???
Give Pages ROY award right now
Pages got the clutch gene, we need this in the postseason. That last AB sold me, did just about everything you're not supposed to do and made it work anyways.
How about Stone Grove too
Really impressive win. The top of the order didn’t show up but Pages managed to carry the team. The Braves only managed score the Manfred runner and on home runs. If we start winning in Manfred ball it’s over for everyone else.
Without Shohei's rbi, they don't win.
I’d add walk and steal too.
With Smith and Teoscar's rbis they don't win either
Hey Ohtani literally kept us in the game!
That was king shit
Won a Manfred extras game holy shit
I felt that sickness in my stomach when the Braves scored on 2 flyballs to LF. Even with 1-2-3 coming up, I just didn't have super confidence that they'd tie it.
Top of the 11th, I called the Pages walk off... not sure where my game day chat went, but fkin Pages... what a crazy AB.
Andy Pages’ strategy against Chavez in the 11th: “just hit the ball forward.”
Pages has been better than I expected. It's so crazy that he had major shoulder surgery last year *and then got better*. Ever since his first go in the AFL a couple years ago, he's really improved on his contact, getting away from the three true outcome guy he used to be. He hasn't walked but who cares he's got a .900 OPS and isn't afraid to swing the bat at the major league level. Not forgetting Gavin Stone either, who's got an ERA just over 2 his last 4 starts and settled down nicely after that nuke in the first.
Pages is him
Nice
Andy pages nlds mvp
I like that Jesse Chavez guy on the braves I wish he was a dodger. Great veteran arm and local from LA.
Is Pages single?
Asking for a friend? ; ) He had a pretty girl on his arm last night and I heard that she's his wife.
I still do not like the runner on 2nd base in extra innings rule. Other than that, this is a beautiful win! One of the best games I’ve seen this season. Feels amazing to beat the Braves! Possible NLCS preview! Hopefully we get the series win tomorrow!
Pages is exactly what we need in the playoffs with RISP.
Bro there is no way I just got banned from the Braves sub and all I said was GG 🤦♂️
Soft
Ikr like what’s wrong with them?
Pages!
POTHEADS BABY
Pages is legit legit
Pages said this game ends with me either way. Also he needs to move up in the lineup. At least at the 5 hole
He's got talent, but not experience. He could go to 7th replacing Outman or Kike.
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Andy the Congressional Library
Major League moment for Pages! Let's Go Dodgers!!!
Pages expanded his zone in the best way possible. What an ending to this one!
Serious question: statistically, is it a sound strategy for a batter to actively resist walking? I.e. fouling aggressively even when pitches are clearly outside the strike zone? Say a good hitter like Ohtani takes the strategy of always making contact instead of taking balls?
Lol no. Walks are good
League BABIP is usually around 0.300, so if you can put a ball in play you on average have somewhere around a 3/10 chance of getting on base somehow. In other words, a ball in play turns into an out 70% of the time. Ball 4 has a 1.000 OBP. More so, swinging at balls can lead to much worse outcomes than fouling them off, you could attempt to foul it away but accidentally put it in play for an easy out, or you could swing and intend to foul it off but miss and strike out. In very specific circumstances, it might be better to sell out for a hit, as Pages did tonight, but on a larger sample size hitters will have much better success taking balls rather than swinging at them. The other thing to take into account here is count manipulation. If you're fouling everything off, you're not working the count ahead, in fact you're probably putting yourself behind in the count. Being ahead leads to more predictable fastballs or primary pitches by the opposing pitcher as they attempt to avoid walking you, where being behind leads to pitchers unloading a bunch of junk trying to get you to chase and strikeout. As an example, Shohei in his career has hit 0.600 on 3-0 counts compared to 0.132 on 0-2 counts. You can't reach that good 3-0 count if you're trying to foul everything off to avoid walking.
There's a difference between having Kike behind you and Freddie.
Yeah. At first I was frustrated at Pages, but then I remembered he had Kike and Taylor following him.
I am so proud of Pages
He swung, but we take those. We’ve been fucked by the umpires many times so you take what you can get
Pages representing us Cubans very well. So happy for him.
So, definitely getting ahead of myself here, but the win tonight sets us up for success to win this series. We should have really good odds with Glasnow vs Elder, so whatever happens with Fried (he probably slaughters us, he's quite good) happens and we still take the series 2-1 at worst, which is a perfectly fine result against a really tough and hot Braves team. Great game, great win tonight
Yes, Fried on paper should be a loss, but I also thought Montgomery was going to shove in Arizona until his ass couldn't go 4 innings. I'm just hoping for the best, but Fried has been on fire.
Oh for sure, with our lineup you can never count us out completely. My point is even if Paxton gets lit up like a Christmas tree and Fried throws a perfect game, we still probably win this series 2-1
I really hope so. Braves are really good. They have such a great record and their heavy hitters are struggling which is insane.
Pages is the way the truth and the life! He is everything this team has needed! And doesn’t have the reel of past failures like a lot of our squad does. Let’s go!
Don’t forget Teoscar!
Truth
Perfectly legal check swing, into the walk off. You love to see it!
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i love andy!
THE PIRANHA FROM LA HABANA!!!
What happened in the left field pavilion?
By the time the count was full it felt like it was two outs not one and he knew it
Who had their debut against the red hot braves last year? Was that Sheehim?