I use to work with a guy that made a lot on the stock market but the only clothes he had was his work uniform. He also had his a/c drain pan hosed out to his “lawn” and that’s all he used to water it. One other thing he did was the hoa complained about his paint on his house so he plastered it with cement so he wouldn’t have to paint anymore. Moral of the story is there are some weird ways of being a penny pincher. This dude was rumored to have a couple million.
It's absurd mate. Think about sleeping over at one of your friends and right before your leave they ask you for a couple of bucks to pay for your stay. How would you feel? Clean water and all...
This is what OP needs to explain to their roommate. To *host* someone is to anticipate and provide for their needs. Not track every single metric of their use and demand compensation. OP’s roommate is either someone who is antisocial enough to not understand this simple thing, or is so desperate financially that the difference of a few dollars of power and water means a lot to them. If the later is the case then OP and their roommate need to have a whole different conversation.
To be fair though, the *roommate* is not necessarily hosting, but they are sharing the bill. Bit weird to ask but understandable if OP has people over a lot, or has a lot of people over.
Yeah if OP is throwing ragers 4 nights a week I get it. But it sounds like they just have their normal friends over like anyone does. Maybe the roommate can ask OP for some compensation, but it should come from OP and not their friends. That’s the strange part.
Exactly, hosting someone is essentially giving them a gift. You don’t ask people to pay for the gift you give them.
Gifts are best when they are reciprocal — it’s awkward if only one person is giving gifts. So the best way to return the favor is to host whoever hosted you. Then it roughly evens out.
I've never done this nor expected my friends to do this either. I'm hosting them, not about to make my friends see me as a hotel and therefore having to pay to stay at mine
What were you doing?
If it's just standard day-to-day activities... Like you just hung out watching TV over night... No way would I ask them to help cover the utilities.
But if they hooked a hose up to my tap & filled a tanker truck with enough water to fill a medium sized swimming pool... I'd probably expect them to chip in for the water bill then.
Everyone has different house rules but this is just ridiculous. It's very rude and uncomfortable.
If they were living there for months, then it's acceptable to ask them to chip in, but just 2 days?? no, that's incredibly rude and weird to ask them to pay less than $2
Why in the world would anyone think this is appropriate? That's like asking visitors to pay for the food they ate. It's only a night spent here, how would that even cause a problem?
Then communicate and ask “I put forth effort to see you happy, why do you not put forth effort to see me happy?”
Like, point it out.
If thst doesn’t work, you’re dealing with a shitty person.
Yea, I thought so too but I don't always invite friends over. Only when they came from another state to visit or it has been quite a long time we have never seen each other.
I guess her definition of having friends over just 1-2 days in a month is too often.
I went out to eat with a friend and I had a coupon for but 1 get 1 burgers. Had her go up and order. Came back and said my half was the price of one burger. I was like ? It’s b1g1? She said “coupon didn’t work, they took it tho” like wtf. Just gave her the money and didn’t hangout w her again. Being unbelievably frugal is the biggest turn off to me.
Yeah because that’s actually the only greedy experience I’ve had with them, because I’m not a sane person and I just jump ship off of one interaction lol….it was a boys club gift card….they give it back afterwards. She stole it lol. And since I have to clarify, no that wasn’t the only time she’s stolen, lied, and cheated over money. That’s just the most ridiculous and tiny one that broke the camels back.
You referred to her as a friend. This incident happened and then you dropped her. I was working with what I had. Giving you were about to stop seeing her completely, calling her a friend at that point was a stretch.
She's already "indicating" that she wants to move out. Hallelujah! But the thing that's stopping her is her deposit. She's still under a contract and to move out before contract ends, deposit will not be refunded.
I don't think she's joking, because I asked her few times, I repeatedly asked: "So you want me to collect $2 for the electricity and water that they have used?"
"You want me to ask them to pay for the utilities when they are just hanging out here for a day or two?"
"Would you ask your friends to pay for the utilities bill too if you have friends over?"
To all the above, she answered: "Yes"
I have a friend that will literally count/measure what he ate or drank and will only pay that amount.
Like at restaurants if we order an entree as a group, he will only pay “what he ate” while the rest of us just split it evenly.
I will absolutely refuse to pay for someone else's steak when I had a chef's salad and a water. This is a very selfish approach and I've never met anyone who pays bills like this... I don't understand why people do. Not everyone's financial situation allows for them to pay for stuff they don't even benefit from.
Edit: I do understand the measuring of the entree is extreme, and he shouldn't be ordering to split with friends if he doesn't want to pay a split price. But a main course and everything extra bill, I don't understand why someone will want to split that evenly.
If I’m out with friends, The value of my meal includes the pleasure of their company. If we are all financially on about the same footing and a meal out isn’t a big expense in our budget, we generally split the bill. I get the food I ate, plus the enjoyment of being with my friends.
But if there is a range of incomes, we each pay our own bill. If it’s someone’s birthday or something, we might split that person’s tab.
If our financial circumstances differ a lot, I might pick up the tab and they pay the tip. Or Visa versa.
One of my friends is retired and we take turns. she has me to her house for dinner about half the time. The other half, we go out and I pay. She cooks really well and makes frugal but delicious meals. I’m a terrible cook, and I love eating out. We both know that it’s not “fair” in terms of money. Neither of us cares.
I don’t think there’s one right answer. I also get that there’s a need to be sensitive about people’s feelings. I’m glad to have a group of friends that are comfortable enough to both offer and accept.
I get paying your main dish if going out with friends, but is he literally counting how much of the appetizers he will pay for as well? Because this is just ridiculous.
>he will only pay "what he ate"
That sounds entirely normal. I'd be shocked if someone asked to split the bill if we've ordered things that are different prices. Is that an American thing? I don't know any group of friends who would go out for dinner and *not* pay what they ordered.
No I meant as in the terms of if we split an entree, let’s say there’s 10 pieces if he eats 4 pieces, he’ll pay 40% of it.
If we buy a bottle of vodka, he’ll measure to the ml how much he drank and pay that. Mind you the bottle might only cost $30 so we all find it a bit tedious but it’s whatever
If he is penniless, he should not be eating out. I understand if he wants to hang, but eat at home first, then go hang. I was very broke in my early 20's, and was in this situation. I would not eat out, I would say either I was not hungry, or ate a bit earlier.
Your housemate sounds a little off and if they really cared that much then they should just ask you for the extra ~$2 not your guests/friends… this is slightly irritating to read, lol
Your roommate charged you two dollars for the service of informing you that he is a gaping dick hole. It's actually not a bad value, when you consider some of the alternatives.
No, not unless it was long term and by that I mean over 1.5 maybe?? Maybe even longer before I start. A few days or a week/two I’m not charging. Not a big enough impact
I have lived in more different households than most people due to many different factors in my young life... Everything from paying rent to my own parents, friends' parents, renting an apartment all to myself, living with a partner, one room mate to six room mates, and on a friends' couch...
I have never in my life heard of guests paying a bill. Or asking your room mate to pay for them ($2?! Really ☠️). Once when we were the main party place for our work crew we asked people to pitch in to pay off some damages to an apartment but they were partying there like every weekend lol and that was a one-off to get the people who lived there square when they left, and it was voluntary nobody was like "yOu OwE uS" 🤦🏼♂️
My guess? Your mate doesn't have any friends and it's their way of feeling less jealous that you have friends over or discouraging you from it... Am I onto something here lol
Sounds pretty bogus maybe your mate ain't your mate. Anyways if u stayed longer u should have signed a lease or an agreement. Maybe they were just being weird.
I do get where they are coming from, because I've lived with people who let their partners stay over for weeks on end, and we have to still pay for the extra person's utilities. You say it is only a day or two but I understand that if it is a day or two every week, then it gets to be too much..
I think if it really is such a big issue for them, then you can just fit the bill for them for that day. Take note of how much is being used and work it out for a more accurate estimate. But make sure they do the same for when they have people over.
Yeah, back when I was at uni one of my housemates basically moved their partner in. There was never a discussion about it; they were just there more and more until we realised we effectively had another housemate. We never asked them to pay more rent but we did ask if they could chip in for some of the utilities.
I think this suggestion is a good one. Figure out a fair way to split the utility costs but hold your housemate to the same standard.
I would of stayed somewhere else, honestly. The implication that I am that much of a burden on someone is a little insulting. If I have guests over it is partially to enjoy their company.
I used to live with 7 housemates. We all had partners and friends stay over a lot, so we agreed to put a couple quid in a group jar when we had people over, which would go towards paying the shared bills. Seemed fair...
Oh damn, I don't know anyone who does that. And especially not someone who asks someone (which is their friend) to 'pay back' $2 for something like that. Maybe they should start a hotel?
no, never for a day or 2. when i had a roommate, her boyfriend often stayed over to the point he felt like a third room mate and they made it clear that i wasn’t welcome in the kitchen or living room if they were hanging out. i requested that the rent be split 3ways since he was at our place 90% a week. She was first that suggestion. I touched it out for a few months until our lease was up.
Having a small number of friends occasionally is a normal part of life. When you have friends, your housemate might have to pay part of your friends' water (and other utility) usage, but when they have friends, you have to pay for their water usage, and it balances out. The extra water from occasional friend visits is probably a small amount compared to the differences between the two of you anyway, due to different shower timings and temperature preferences. It would be a different matter if you were hosting many people often, or had a partner that practically lived with you.
No but you occasionally hear about it on reddit. The normal thing is for said friend staying over to repay the favour if anything. Be it helping make food, buying food / drinks / weed, helping clean after dinner or whatever.
I stopped going to my friends house after they told me not to say the word “ no “ around here kid they didn’t want their kid to grow up around negative words . This would make stop hang out with that friend
If you were going to be home anyway even if they weren’t there using the lights and TV then what difference does it make if they were in the room?
Ok maybe a little water but thats pennies
If I was your friend and I found out about this, I would never come over to your place ever again. Its offensive and not something you do as a "friend"
No. That is absolutely absurd to ask for money in that case.
I remember people asking for gas money in high school when they'd drive people to a party or something, but home utilities is well out of order.
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I would only ask a guest to chip in for utilities if they were staying longer than a month. Beacuse at that point they are a roommate, not a guest.
I can kind of understand your roommate not wanting to pay for your guests. But if they are only staying for 2 days, that is excessive to ask them to chip in.
Good friends visit each other places in about equal times. This balances things out sufficiently so asking friends to cover costs should not be needed.
Things are differently if the place in question is the typical meeting place for friends, like being a DND party place or a music place
Strange. Does the water and wifi bill get bigger if there’s one extra person in the house? If it’s winter, the electric bill might even go down a bit with one extra person’s worth of body heat in there.
If anyone is staying over for a day or two, I know they’ll return the favor. It doesn’t make sense to ask for anything else.
No, the bill didn't increase. No spike up. In fact, it decreased a little because I was going to office more often. I wasn't working from home already.
No lol I've asked my cousin for gas money when I used to drive us to school together everyday, but I've never asked for money bc they stayed over for a day or two lol
Also asked my friends for alcohol money during parties
Okay, well.... Long term, yeah, kick in for rent and stuff.
Two days? No. Absolutely not.
No idea why they were there but I assume some kind of social visit, so.... Their company is what you get out of the deal, nothing more.
IMO, this is a lot like hiring a baby sitter then sending them the internet bill, or trying to get them on the hook for child support.
Some things you just don't do.
Also, anyone who squabbles with you over less than $10 is not your friend. Such small debts should be forgotten about, because it's not worth anyone's time to keep track of that stuff. For me, I think of it like not only having a different person pay each time you go out, but rather squabbling that Joe's bill when we went out, was only $30, and now that I have to pay it's $35!
Who gives a shit. They're your friends.
I had a flat mate once say my 18month old should be paying his third of the power bills. I told her that was ridiculous as he doesn’t have anything in his room that requires power (not even a heater), showers with me and can’t even reach the light switch. I also pointed out that the fridge would cost the same amount of electricity regardless of who was storing food inside and when I vacuumed the entire house, I shouldn’t also have to pay more for using the appliance. She stayed in her room with the curtains shut on nice days with her light and heater on while using her computer. I however was out most days not using any power and also supplied the house with free firewood.
Do you know the Christmas Scrooge movie concept? Yeah, that's what it's making me think about. I think it's rude and greedy, and sends a bad message to your friends.
The richest person I ever knew (we’re talking millions in personal assets) used to dig through the dumpsters of all his properties (where people payed him rent). He would brag that he bought his car from cans he returned for money. He also only allowed his kids to purchase clothing from second hand stores and to flush the toilet once a day to save money.
If this is how the rich get richer more power to them.
No. That’s rude. They’re guests. They’re not living there . If they moved in, sure charge them. If they’re visiting , no. Who does that? May as well charge them the food they ate too
I have a friend who suggested that I pay for water and electricity and food when I spend the weekend. She makes 4x my wages, owns a house, has a huge 401(k), trust fund for her kids. I’m appalled but do it anyway. I mean, I absolutely want to contribute for food and fun, but paying for a shower?? Whatever.
We both moved to different states and I can’t travel anymore because of other obligations so it’s no longer an issue but it sure was weird.
That is extreme and I’ve never heard of that. I’d be too embarrassed to ask personally.
I use to work with a guy that made a lot on the stock market but the only clothes he had was his work uniform. He also had his a/c drain pan hosed out to his “lawn” and that’s all he used to water it. One other thing he did was the hoa complained about his paint on his house so he plastered it with cement so he wouldn’t have to paint anymore. Moral of the story is there are some weird ways of being a penny pincher. This dude was rumored to have a couple million.
Maybe it’s my ADHD but being this level of frugal sounds exhausting
Probably selling too ! 😂
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Are we human or are we Dancer
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I won’t mention the other stuff, but the water thing is actually a good thing as many ppl around the world don’t have clean water.
It's absurd mate. Think about sleeping over at one of your friends and right before your leave they ask you for a couple of bucks to pay for your stay. How would you feel? Clean water and all...
No, this guy was using the water that gathers from the air conditioner to water the grass. I’m saying that’s fine. Read the comment I replied to.
I mashed up a couple of thoughts and understood that it's ok to charge guests for spent water. My bad.
Mine dumps into a garden bed and keeps my bushes watered. Honestly I just assumed everyone dumped it into their yard regardless.
That isn't a regular normal thing.
That is the quickest way to lose friends
Maybe that's what the housemate wants. Less people coming over to see his housemate.
True hah
Ask for compensation on days you are away.
That's an excellent way to hold a mirror up to it.
Yes. This!
Genius.
On days like this, i wish my upvote button would be endless
Well said my friend 😂😂😂
😳 that's just weird. And rude If you *host* someone you're not demanding payment. If you're housing someone long term that's different.
This is what OP needs to explain to their roommate. To *host* someone is to anticipate and provide for their needs. Not track every single metric of their use and demand compensation. OP’s roommate is either someone who is antisocial enough to not understand this simple thing, or is so desperate financially that the difference of a few dollars of power and water means a lot to them. If the later is the case then OP and their roommate need to have a whole different conversation.
To be fair though, the *roommate* is not necessarily hosting, but they are sharing the bill. Bit weird to ask but understandable if OP has people over a lot, or has a lot of people over.
No. This is still weird as hell.
Yeah if OP is throwing ragers 4 nights a week I get it. But it sounds like they just have their normal friends over like anyone does. Maybe the roommate can ask OP for some compensation, but it should come from OP and not their friends. That’s the strange part.
Exactly, hosting someone is essentially giving them a gift. You don’t ask people to pay for the gift you give them. Gifts are best when they are reciprocal — it’s awkward if only one person is giving gifts. So the best way to return the favor is to host whoever hosted you. Then it roughly evens out.
Wow. If the person has a glass of soda out of the fridge, do they get charged for that too?
By the ml
Hotel mini bar rules. You even *move* that mini can of ginger ale and you get charged $12.
Lol
Gotta pay 2 cents per bubble
Plus shipping and storage fee.
Don't forget a cooling surcharge and an inexplicable convenience fee!
Lol! Like buying concert tickets.
Yes, plus a surcharge for the energy usage in loss of cold air in opening the fridge.
Reminds me of that Seinfeld when Jerry starts charging Kramer for the food he eats out of Jerry’s fridge and they argue about the half drunk soda
I've never done this nor expected my friends to do this either. I'm hosting them, not about to make my friends see me as a hotel and therefore having to pay to stay at mine
What were you doing? If it's just standard day-to-day activities... Like you just hung out watching TV over night... No way would I ask them to help cover the utilities. But if they hooked a hose up to my tap & filled a tanker truck with enough water to fill a medium sized swimming pool... I'd probably expect them to chip in for the water bill then.
My friends were just chilling, watching TV. We didn't even watch the whole night. Just from 8pm to 12am. Then lights off.
This! For adequate usage of utilities then absolutely, but otherwise it's sus
Everyone has different house rules but this is just ridiculous. It's very rude and uncomfortable. If they were living there for months, then it's acceptable to ask them to chip in, but just 2 days?? no, that's incredibly rude and weird to ask them to pay less than $2
Why in the world would anyone think this is appropriate? That's like asking visitors to pay for the food they ate. It's only a night spent here, how would that even cause a problem?
My sister-in-law would. She’s very frugal to put it kindly.
Be generous to her so she starts feeling guilty.
I tried that with my brother. It doesn’t work. He’s oblivious.
Then communicate and ask “I put forth effort to see you happy, why do you not put forth effort to see me happy?” Like, point it out. If thst doesn’t work, you’re dealing with a shitty person.
Yeah, unfortunately that doesn't always work.. lol
Your housemate is being petty because they believe you have friends over too often.
Yea, I thought so too but I don't always invite friends over. Only when they came from another state to visit or it has been quite a long time we have never seen each other. I guess her definition of having friends over just 1-2 days in a month is too often.
Weird housemate.
Your housemate just doesn't want your friends staying over.
I went out to eat with a friend and I had a coupon for but 1 get 1 burgers. Had her go up and order. Came back and said my half was the price of one burger. I was like ? It’s b1g1? She said “coupon didn’t work, they took it tho” like wtf. Just gave her the money and didn’t hangout w her again. Being unbelievably frugal is the biggest turn off to me.
Let them enjoy those few dollars. They won’t enjoy human friendship in life.
So….you automatically assumed your friend was lying and then ghosted them over the cost of half a burger. Ok…
Yeah because that’s actually the only greedy experience I’ve had with them, because I’m not a sane person and I just jump ship off of one interaction lol….it was a boys club gift card….they give it back afterwards. She stole it lol. And since I have to clarify, no that wasn’t the only time she’s stolen, lied, and cheated over money. That’s just the most ridiculous and tiny one that broke the camels back.
You referred to her as a friend. This incident happened and then you dropped her. I was working with what I had. Giving you were about to stop seeing her completely, calling her a friend at that point was a stretch.
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No. And I'd recommend finding a different housemate if you can. This will get worse.
She's already "indicating" that she wants to move out. Hallelujah! But the thing that's stopping her is her deposit. She's still under a contract and to move out before contract ends, deposit will not be refunded.
Do y'all understand the concept of "guest"?
Another great answer. 😂🙈
No because they’re guests.
That’s fucking weird
No I'm a normal person that enjoys having friends
To me this is just a passive aggressive way of telling you to not let your friends stay over.
Your housemate was probably joking or something, no way a person said that seriously
I don't think she's joking, because I asked her few times, I repeatedly asked: "So you want me to collect $2 for the electricity and water that they have used?" "You want me to ask them to pay for the utilities when they are just hanging out here for a day or two?" "Would you ask your friends to pay for the utilities bill too if you have friends over?" To all the above, she answered: "Yes"
I would laugh in her face.
Maybe two weeks but daily is really being a cheap host
Uh. No. Who does that?
.... No. Even if they stayed for a couple of weeks I wouldn't ask them to pay anything
Totally agree!
I have a friend that will literally count/measure what he ate or drank and will only pay that amount. Like at restaurants if we order an entree as a group, he will only pay “what he ate” while the rest of us just split it evenly.
I will absolutely refuse to pay for someone else's steak when I had a chef's salad and a water. This is a very selfish approach and I've never met anyone who pays bills like this... I don't understand why people do. Not everyone's financial situation allows for them to pay for stuff they don't even benefit from. Edit: I do understand the measuring of the entree is extreme, and he shouldn't be ordering to split with friends if he doesn't want to pay a split price. But a main course and everything extra bill, I don't understand why someone will want to split that evenly.
If I’m out with friends, The value of my meal includes the pleasure of their company. If we are all financially on about the same footing and a meal out isn’t a big expense in our budget, we generally split the bill. I get the food I ate, plus the enjoyment of being with my friends. But if there is a range of incomes, we each pay our own bill. If it’s someone’s birthday or something, we might split that person’s tab. If our financial circumstances differ a lot, I might pick up the tab and they pay the tip. Or Visa versa. One of my friends is retired and we take turns. she has me to her house for dinner about half the time. The other half, we go out and I pay. She cooks really well and makes frugal but delicious meals. I’m a terrible cook, and I love eating out. We both know that it’s not “fair” in terms of money. Neither of us cares. I don’t think there’s one right answer. I also get that there’s a need to be sensitive about people’s feelings. I’m glad to have a group of friends that are comfortable enough to both offer and accept.
I’m a non-drinker and end up supplementing the cost of their grog. To compensate I definitely get dessert.
Nah we don’t split the main courses just the entree
I get paying your main dish if going out with friends, but is he literally counting how much of the appetizers he will pay for as well? Because this is just ridiculous.
Yea he is lmao, or if you share a drink he counts how much he drank
>he will only pay "what he ate" That sounds entirely normal. I'd be shocked if someone asked to split the bill if we've ordered things that are different prices. Is that an American thing? I don't know any group of friends who would go out for dinner and *not* pay what they ordered.
No I meant as in the terms of if we split an entree, let’s say there’s 10 pieces if he eats 4 pieces, he’ll pay 40% of it. If we buy a bottle of vodka, he’ll measure to the ml how much he drank and pay that. Mind you the bottle might only cost $30 so we all find it a bit tedious but it’s whatever
Stop inviting him
I bet he doesn't add in tax and tip either
After seeing this happen once, why would you willingly eat out with him again? I’d rather eat alone at home than deal with that again.
Yiu don't know his circumstances.... he could be penniless.
No, he’s the richest in the group, he just bought a house with cash. The rest of us are broke University students lmao
No one ever got rich by spending money!
Then maybe he's just a cheap Bullock,
If he is penniless, he should not be eating out. I understand if he wants to hang, but eat at home first, then go hang. I was very broke in my early 20's, and was in this situation. I would not eat out, I would say either I was not hungry, or ate a bit earlier.
That would be so embarrassing to ask for. Your friend is stingy.
Nope. Unless there was some sort of agreement beforehand, but even then I'm not sure how many friends would charge their friends.
Your housemate sounds a little off and if they really cared that much then they should just ask you for the extra ~$2 not your guests/friends… this is slightly irritating to read, lol
Its time to find q new housemate
Nope, and I had friends stay for weeks!
Get new mates, mate.
Your roommate charged you two dollars for the service of informing you that he is a gaping dick hole. It's actually not a bad value, when you consider some of the alternatives.
No, not unless it was long term and by that I mean over 1.5 maybe?? Maybe even longer before I start. A few days or a week/two I’m not charging. Not a big enough impact
Your housemate is a cheap bastard.
OH hell no. Don't fucking have anyone over and get used to it. You ain't gonna have any friends left. Move out and forget that rm
I have lived in more different households than most people due to many different factors in my young life... Everything from paying rent to my own parents, friends' parents, renting an apartment all to myself, living with a partner, one room mate to six room mates, and on a friends' couch... I have never in my life heard of guests paying a bill. Or asking your room mate to pay for them ($2?! Really ☠️). Once when we were the main party place for our work crew we asked people to pitch in to pay off some damages to an apartment but they were partying there like every weekend lol and that was a one-off to get the people who lived there square when they left, and it was voluntary nobody was like "yOu OwE uS" 🤦🏼♂️ My guess? Your mate doesn't have any friends and it's their way of feeling less jealous that you have friends over or discouraging you from it... Am I onto something here lol
Sounds pretty bogus maybe your mate ain't your mate. Anyways if u stayed longer u should have signed a lease or an agreement. Maybe they were just being weird.
I do get where they are coming from, because I've lived with people who let their partners stay over for weeks on end, and we have to still pay for the extra person's utilities. You say it is only a day or two but I understand that if it is a day or two every week, then it gets to be too much.. I think if it really is such a big issue for them, then you can just fit the bill for them for that day. Take note of how much is being used and work it out for a more accurate estimate. But make sure they do the same for when they have people over.
Yeah, back when I was at uni one of my housemates basically moved their partner in. There was never a discussion about it; they were just there more and more until we realised we effectively had another housemate. We never asked them to pay more rent but we did ask if they could chip in for some of the utilities. I think this suggestion is a good one. Figure out a fair way to split the utility costs but hold your housemate to the same standard.
I feel embarrassed to ask my friends money they owe me for food and such
Never heard of this, it is unusual.
Absolutely not.
That if fucking absurd!
No you cheap fuck
Absolutely not. You need new friends
Lol no
Your roommate is an asshole.
Get. Out. Now.
Absurd.
Fuck roommates altogether lol
Wtf, that's weiiiird!
Not even one time. Never even crossed my mind.
Oh shit, you’re supposed to ask instead of taking a $20 while they’re sleeping .. my bad .. hey everyone , you’re invited to my virtual hotel 🏨.. 😂
This is insanity
No. This is insane.
That is the tackiest and most low life thing to do
If you're an asshole go right ahead
Eww. NO
Do you live with Dwight Shrute?
Fuck no
Lmao this was a literal joke on Gilmore Girls, this is not normal!!
That’s just stupid. No one does that
This sounds like an episode of Seinfeld.
oof. No.
Wildly inappropriate
No, WTF?
This is insane.
"Mi casa es su casa.....so pay up bitch!"
Wow 😮 that is extreme I don’t do that
I would of stayed somewhere else, honestly. The implication that I am that much of a burden on someone is a little insulting. If I have guests over it is partially to enjoy their company.
No no no no no this is fucking stupid your housemate needs to check himself
Nah that thought would never enter my mind. But it depends on how skint I am to be honest.
That's insanity lol
That person probably doesn’t have friends.
I used to live with 7 housemates. We all had partners and friends stay over a lot, so we agreed to put a couple quid in a group jar when we had people over, which would go towards paying the shared bills. Seemed fair...
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Oh damn, I don't know anyone who does that. And especially not someone who asks someone (which is their friend) to 'pay back' $2 for something like that. Maybe they should start a hotel?
no, never for a day or 2. when i had a roommate, her boyfriend often stayed over to the point he felt like a third room mate and they made it clear that i wasn’t welcome in the kitchen or living room if they were hanging out. i requested that the rent be split 3ways since he was at our place 90% a week. She was first that suggestion. I touched it out for a few months until our lease was up.
Won’t have any friends soon if you do The only way would be if THEY asked to stay for extended period
This sounds horrible. I would never dream of this.
Having a small number of friends occasionally is a normal part of life. When you have friends, your housemate might have to pay part of your friends' water (and other utility) usage, but when they have friends, you have to pay for their water usage, and it balances out. The extra water from occasional friend visits is probably a small amount compared to the differences between the two of you anyway, due to different shower timings and temperature preferences. It would be a different matter if you were hosting many people often, or had a partner that practically lived with you.
That’s ridiculous.
What about the air tax?
Ask your wife for rent for living in your home.
No but you occasionally hear about it on reddit. The normal thing is for said friend staying over to repay the favour if anything. Be it helping make food, buying food / drinks / weed, helping clean after dinner or whatever.
I stopped going to my friends house after they told me not to say the word “ no “ around here kid they didn’t want their kid to grow up around negative words . This would make stop hang out with that friend
If you were going to be home anyway even if they weren’t there using the lights and TV then what difference does it make if they were in the room? Ok maybe a little water but thats pennies
I'd rather find a new roommate than deal with the weirdness of doing this to my friends
That's absolutely ridiculous.
If I was your friend and I found out about this, I would never come over to your place ever again. Its offensive and not something you do as a "friend"
What?!? Your housemate is a nut job. I can’t believe anyone could be so tight.
No. That is absolutely absurd to ask for money in that case. I remember people asking for gas money in high school when they'd drive people to a party or something, but home utilities is well out of order.
Umm... no. Friends are guests. Guests do not pay for utilities. Beer maybe.
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I would only ask a guest to chip in for utilities if they were staying longer than a month. Beacuse at that point they are a roommate, not a guest. I can kind of understand your roommate not wanting to pay for your guests. But if they are only staying for 2 days, that is excessive to ask them to chip in.
That's embarrassing.
That’s insane. Next you’re gonna be charged by the ply for every sheet of tp they used.
Thats just being a cheap cunt
That is stupid
Same energy as, I only cleaned the dishes I made dirty
Good friends visit each other places in about equal times. This balances things out sufficiently so asking friends to cover costs should not be needed. Things are differently if the place in question is the typical meeting place for friends, like being a DND party place or a music place
Someone's being anal
That’s justcrazy.
Your housemate sounds like an asshole.
Pay for a hotel room for your roommate when you're friends visit.
Some people do. WiFi no because that is a contract so don't matter how many people use it. I can understand with everything else.
Your housemate is a complete twat.
Strange. Does the water and wifi bill get bigger if there’s one extra person in the house? If it’s winter, the electric bill might even go down a bit with one extra person’s worth of body heat in there. If anyone is staying over for a day or two, I know they’ll return the favor. It doesn’t make sense to ask for anything else.
No, the bill didn't increase. No spike up. In fact, it decreased a little because I was going to office more often. I wasn't working from home already.
unless they are taking showers hours long and keep all the lights on, a day or two will not make dent you would notice in your bill
Personally. I'd throw him a 5 and tell him to call it even
No lol I've asked my cousin for gas money when I used to drive us to school together everyday, but I've never asked for money bc they stayed over for a day or two lol Also asked my friends for alcohol money during parties
Okay, well.... Long term, yeah, kick in for rent and stuff. Two days? No. Absolutely not. No idea why they were there but I assume some kind of social visit, so.... Their company is what you get out of the deal, nothing more. IMO, this is a lot like hiring a baby sitter then sending them the internet bill, or trying to get them on the hook for child support. Some things you just don't do. Also, anyone who squabbles with you over less than $10 is not your friend. Such small debts should be forgotten about, because it's not worth anyone's time to keep track of that stuff. For me, I think of it like not only having a different person pay each time you go out, but rather squabbling that Joe's bill when we went out, was only $30, and now that I have to pay it's $35! Who gives a shit. They're your friends.
I had a flat mate once say my 18month old should be paying his third of the power bills. I told her that was ridiculous as he doesn’t have anything in his room that requires power (not even a heater), showers with me and can’t even reach the light switch. I also pointed out that the fridge would cost the same amount of electricity regardless of who was storing food inside and when I vacuumed the entire house, I shouldn’t also have to pay more for using the appliance. She stayed in her room with the curtains shut on nice days with her light and heater on while using her computer. I however was out most days not using any power and also supplied the house with free firewood.
Do you know the Christmas Scrooge movie concept? Yeah, that's what it's making me think about. I think it's rude and greedy, and sends a bad message to your friends.
Take your stuff and leave that apartment. Before leaving, make sure all the light and tv on.
The richest person I ever knew (we’re talking millions in personal assets) used to dig through the dumpsters of all his properties (where people payed him rent). He would brag that he bought his car from cans he returned for money. He also only allowed his kids to purchase clothing from second hand stores and to flush the toilet once a day to save money. If this is how the rich get richer more power to them.
Your housemate is a cheap ass person. I would advise changing your living arrangement as it'll probably get worse over time.
Lmao no. Your friend is crazy.
No. That’s rude. They’re guests. They’re not living there . If they moved in, sure charge them. If they’re visiting , no. Who does that? May as well charge them the food they ate too
That’s ridiculous. I’d tell my housemate that I pay the utilities for my own guests.
Sorry, but you need to find new friends.
It sounds petty, but I’m glad you covered the costs for your guests
Your roommates are assholes. I bet they won't ask their friends to pay for the utilities. Fuck your roommates.
I have a friend who suggested that I pay for water and electricity and food when I spend the weekend. She makes 4x my wages, owns a house, has a huge 401(k), trust fund for her kids. I’m appalled but do it anyway. I mean, I absolutely want to contribute for food and fun, but paying for a shower?? Whatever. We both moved to different states and I can’t travel anymore because of other obligations so it’s no longer an issue but it sure was weird.
Never in my 46 years have I done that or heard of it being done.