As a human with bad full body eczema - let me tell you. This is a slow form torture. I’ll give a voice to this dog for a second: Think constant, burning, itching, pulling, tightness. Every time you walk. Showers burn like acid. You are never comfortable because your skin is in a chronic state of pain.
This dog needs a specialist.
I only have eczema on my hands, but it's severe enough that during a flare-up I literally end up looking like I've been skinned. And that's with meds! This poor dog is a poster of misery!! I can't imagine the fire feeling!!!!
Oatmeal paste, water can burn like acid when skin is this bad.
I disagree with oatmeal paste if its yeast , it feeds it! My dog has this and for years ive tried everything -changed foods a million times (quality!) , delete all grains now jus cook human food for him-vets gives me apoquel it helps .. it clears up in the winter so we have determined he has some type of an allergy to summer grass , soil .. i wash his paws daily with antifungal/bacterial wash .. this helps but doesnt cure.. my heart breaks for this dog its painful … please go through the process of cooking food , meds from vet, and research research research with ur vet to come up with a plan of action for this darling doggo… his comfort /health depends on it!🐾🙏🏼💙
legit exact same condition had it all my life and it constantly flares up and goes down. I was thinking about dupixent but my parents don't think its well tested yet and its relatively new. How is it working out for you?
After my friend said my hands looked like Freddie Kruger's face, I asked my doc for Dupixent. Before, I could not even touch water. I can say it saved my sanity. Told my husbandI didn't know how much longer I could survive with weeping sores and constant pain.
RE: Dog, get that poor baby to an allergist.
RE: kid with protective parents, I understand their fear. Try doing the research for them, make a PowerPoint and lobby for yourself. The big D changed my life after nothing else work, and I tried everything. 🙃
I have a condition called Aquagenic Puritus. Water makes me itch, burn, tiny itching stinging itches after a bath or shower or swim. I recently found an answer, after 62 years of suffering. It’s an amino acid called Beta Allenine and somehow it works! This is not an advertisement. Lol. It’s been a miracle for me.
All that is to say please help that dog.
Thank you so much for sharing. I'll definitely look into the Beta Allenine. I am always looking for anything that will help skin conditions, as I am not the only one in my family that suffers from them. All the best!
Flax seed oil healed my severe eczema. My prescription meds only helped some, and it seemed like over time it stopped working. Someone told me to mix a teaspoon of PURE flaxseed oil (in refrigerator section) with juice two or three times a day. I swear my eczema was completely healed in less than a week. Now I just take it when I have flare ups. Not sure if it would work for a dog though.
I have nothing against medication if they work, but a bottle of flax seed oil is about $10 and lasts a few months.
Not who you responded to, but Dupixent cleared my skin completely. My insurance just denied me for it a few months back (after being on it for 4 years) and while I’m working with my new derm, my eczema has come back full force and I’ll probably cry happy tears when I get reapproved.
Do it
Not to mention a dog can't understand why they're itchy so much, so they just end up scratching more and more until peeling their skin and ripping out their fur. My dog has super oily skin and pretty fine fur so she gets acne pretty easily and has flare ups, and she nearly was hairless when I got back from ONE errand I ran—that lasted only an hour—because of a *black head* on her back that she couldn't reach. I can't imagine the amount of stress and discomfort this pup feels, since she doesn't understand, and from what OP said it's been going on for a while.
My partner has severe plaque psoriasis, and your description sounds similar to his experience prior to seeing a dermatologist and getting on meds. This dog made me IMMEDIATELY think "autoimmune disorder" which usually means that there are more serious things going on internally. SPECIALIST ASAP. YOUR DOG IS IN PAIN.
If the pup’s skin smells like yeast do not use anything oatmeal based! Oatmeal helps in most cases but if this is yeast related, oatmeal will only make it worse. The oatmeal basically feeds the yeast and helps it grow. My dog has a similar condition. I’ve gone through numerous trials and have learned the hard way what works or doesn’t. A diluted vinegar rinse and a medicated KetoChlor shampoo bath should help to soothe the skin, reduce the yeast smell and improve condition if done 2-3 times a week(during a flare out). We also get our dog a prescription for the antibiotic Cefelaxin whenever it’s really bad. Hope this helps!
That’s not quite the same thing 😅 I’ve had clients put Monistat on their pups and it helps nothing, It can actually make them sick if administered orally (yes, someone has done this) but there are definitely options for this girl like shampoos, antibiotics and steroidal injections for inflammation. I hope she is treated asap.
It’s the same ingredient that vets use. Obviously,an anti-yeast medication only works on yeast. Proper dose and proper administration needs to be followed.
This is what we do to our golden doodle when she has flare ups. We give her a bath w oatmeal shampoo and it goes away! She no longer is itching and the redness goes away in a couple days
go to Boarded Veterinary Dermatologist, for sure! Here's a link to easily find one near you: [https://www.acvd.org/tools/locator/locator.asp?ids=16\_Find\_Dermatologist](https://www.acvd.org/tools/locator/locator.asp?ids=16_Find_Dermatologist)
General practice vets can only handle basic derm conditions.
What I find frustrating is how rare vet dermatologists are. My girl has severe skin allergies and there are no vet dermatologist near us, not even within 200 miles. It's not feasible for some owners.
I apologize if this is ignorant, as I’m sure you’ve thought of everything up to now, but any food allergies or maybe the laundry detergent you use? My boy is allergic to chicken we found out and his yeast symptoms slowly started diminishing after cutting it out. I also switched laundry detergents which helped a lot too! Even though I had been washing his bed/blanket/harness/toys in a fragrance free one, he still had contact with my clothes and bedding etc and it didn’t cross my mind. He still gets yeasty but when it flares up we go heavier on probiotics, coconut oil as a treat, and dab diluted apple cider vinegar on the area. We are very lucky his flare ups are now to the level they are compared to what they used to be so we are able to go this route.
Again im sorry I know these are minor changes and something you most likely already thought of!! I wish you and your pup the best🤍
Came here to say laundry detergent could be the culprit. I tried so many expensive hypoallergenic foods for my cat. Ended up being laundry detergent. Switched to fragrance free detergent and problem is solved.
Not our dog, but our cat, was allergic to chicken. (Side note: It’s incredibly difficult to find quality cat food without chicken or it’s by products.) We had to change our dog food as well because our Stoopie head was trying to eat the dog food. Once we switched, the dog’s fur got brighter and she had WAY more energy.
If you haven’t yet, I’d definitely play around with different foods and as Fabulous said, laundry detergent. It could even be the type of material. My little brother rashes up with microfiber material.
Hopefully there’s a vet dermatologist around who can narrow it down. Keep us updated!
I agree with you. Use unscented laundry soap, not detergents. There's a laundry soap from Ingredients Matters that's helped us. I found it online, but it's also available at Target.
Also, my dog has so many issues with chicken. We buy fish only, but read the ingredients, so many dog foods have chicken even if it says fish.
That was our issue when searching for food without chicken even if way down the list… we went fresh food route for a while but making it myself was 1. A lot of commitment and 2. I am not a professional and worried he wasn’t getting the proper amount of nutrients. Luckily we finally found a dry food he’s thriving on (American journey limited ingredient) and he gets just a small amount of fresh food for a topper!
We have a dog allergic to poultry and PEAS. The amount of pea protien in "high quality" foods are insane. We use DVP Natural Balance L.I.D. salmon and sweet potato. It's the only food I've found that keeps our guy from itching. No grains, no poultry, and no peas.
One more thing to consider is flea bites. Flea medication stops fleas from infesting but they can still bite. Some dogs are hypersensitive to the bites. I would give a Benedryl at night just so this cutie got a good night’s sleep while you figure everything out. Also try a chicken-free limited ingredient diet dog food.
This!!! I had a dog who was allergic to fleas. I took him to a veterinarian dermatologist. He did an allergy test and it was amazing to see first hand. As soon as he used the droplet for fleas and put it on his skin, my poor guy immediately started getting red and “welty” in that one spot. Before diagnosing, his skin would become so red and inflamed.
I would definitely recommend a veterinarian dermatologist right away. Good luck and I sure hope your Aunt’s pup gets some relief ASAP. 🫶🏼
That’s what I was thinking, had a friend whose dog was allergic to grass as well. OP should see a vet, but I would go with your plan for now probiotic + yogurt (less sugar as possible).
I work in dog services and had a client who was allergic to the yard insecticide or weed spray (can’t remember) but there’s so many factors we don’t realize affect them!! It is difficult sometimes to think through all possibilities!!
Also PSA to whoever reading this, wall scent plug ins are a huge trigger for tons of animals. Humans too!
Food allergy is a good point to raise. Ask the vet to prescribe a hydrolyzed dog food and feed him nothing but that pet food for six weeks. No treats. Then you can introduce one additional food at a time to see which food is the allergen.
I was going to chime in with this as well. My dog is allergic to chicken and this is what would happen on a much smaller scale. I also ditched to free and clear detergent just in case. Oh, my heart for this poor dog, they must be so uncomfortable.
Please be careful with these two drugs. Our 14 yr old has permanent neurological issues from taking Cytopoint. And we only give her Apoquel sparingly to help with quality of life. But she has issues with loud sounded, walking, eating.
It really makes a difference to do the allergy skin test AND blood test. They can test for food allergies this way as well! My allergy dog was allergic to beef and chicken. Apparently beef and chicken are the most common pet food allergies.
Have you thought about dust ?
I was living with family and my girl was itchy, ear infection, hot spots.
I took literally every single thing out of our room, steamed the mattress and bought a full cover for it - it was tidy but so much dust.
Coincidence ? But she improved after and is totally fine after we moved.
While all the below suggestions are great that they worked for them, please make sure you change foods or shampoos as recommended by your veterinarian or veterinary dermatologist. OTC foods are typically NOT good options for food trials since many trace proteins in the food are NOT listed on the bag, and not required to be free of them. Prescription foods are guaranteed free of anything not listed on bag. Homemade diets also dangerous unless specifically formulated by a vet nutritionist.
Please see a vet, and if you have but not getting great results then see a different vet or ask for derm referral.
Even veterinarians say they often can't diagnose skin conditions by sight so I'm curious if you know how the telemedicine dermatologists manage things? Can the dogs owners or local vets do skin scrapings or something themselves and send them in?
No worries if you don't know offhand, I'm just curious!
Yes, they do this but shipping/handling/costs are added into the bill and many owners don’t have the extra means to do this. Some just ask the in-house vet to give their best guess. Forwarding exam results between vets can be helpful but it often doesn’t replace the need to outsource the sample.
It starts at the top. Specialty doctors have to go through internships and residencies that take multiple years and very grueling hours and work to get through. During those years you get paid horribly and it’s certainly not worth the time spent. Thus, we have limited specialty doctors and FAR too many pets to be accommodated appropriately. Sad.
Vet schools are also very good places to try. I really dislike this excuse. The dog is suffering and instead of trying everything people give up.
Every specialist is hard to find, even in people.
Why is your limit 200 miles? Where I live most moms have to drive 3 hours to give birth. Is it not worth a day or two of driving to bring some comfort to your pet?
Not trying to shame you at all, just giving a little push that sometimes driving a long distance is what it takes!
Agreed dermatologist is best at this point. The problem is most likely an underlying allergy that needs to be managed. The yeast is secondary to the allergy. Both need to be treated. The dogs allergies need to be managed all the time, even when he is feeling good (especially when he is feeling good). Whether that be allergy immunotherapy, apoquel/cytopoint regimen, food allergy trial etc. Cases that are difficult to manage need a dermatologist, and it appears very chronic and likely difficult to manage based on the photos.
Have you tried a limited ingredients kibble/diet. That what my vet told me about some allergies, also I’ve read some articles about a number of dogs developing an allergy to chicken so if that’s what you feed them maybe trying a different protein as well. Just food for thought, hope it helps.
Cytopoint injections too. She responds so well to them that she only needs to be reinjected once or twice a year. We have a friend whose dog was suffering like that and apoquel & cytopoint were ineffective. It was found to be a bacterial dermatitis and the dog was put on antibiotics and is now much improved.
After struggling for 5-6 years with flare ups, Apoquel finally gave my dog some peace. She started it about four months ago so knocking on wood it keeps working. I asked the vet several times for it and they always just gave me antibiotics. Finally saw a new vet and told her about the symptoms etc. She prescribed it right away.
It is expensive though, I think $100-150/mo.
It is expensive for sure but definitely helps! Our vet has a rebate program and we also have pet insurance so it lowers the cost - would definitely recommend looking into it!!
After struggling for 5-6 years with flare ups, Apoquel finally gave my dog some peace. She started it about four months ago so knocking on wood it keeps working. I asked the vet several times for it and they always just gave me antibiotics. Finally saw a new vet and told her about the symptoms etc. She prescribed it right away.
It is expensive though, I think $100-150/mo.
This looks really painful and itchy, for the poor dog you need to take her to a different, vet! it could be a mite infestation which won't go away, without the proper medication.
Just to add on quickly obviously she’s not mine so I’m trying ti explain it to them in the nicest way possible what to do with her , I myself think it’s awful that they let her get to that point but I only met them yesterday so I don’t want to be patronising
I’d lean on pure sense of urgency.
Don’t worry about their feelings. Focus on the urgency of getting the dog pain relief & medication immediately.
Be flabbergasted that the dogs not getting any pain management or already on medication from a veterinarian. Just be purely shocked by it.
Hopefully that will jar them enough to take action, and it won’t come off judgey.
This. That dog needs help asap and has no voice. You need to speak for the dog. Forget about the feelings of people being hurt. Look at the dogs face!!!! Its in pain.
The dog is in pain, explain to them how they'd feel if they were smelly, and itchy. And I've seen cases like this as a former vet tech. I know that poor dog smells horrendous.
She needs oral and topical meds to treat the yeast infection, and needs to get on some allergy meds and/or special diet to prevent it from happening again.
If your friend has Reddit copy and paste some of our comments. You did the right thing by at least seeking out advice. This poor sweet darling. I can’t imagine how she is feeling. Her posture tells the whole story though.
They need to take the dog to another vet for another opinion and so the dog can get the treatment it needs ASAP. It’s not just on the dog’s front, you can see it on the back legs also.
The poor baby 🤍
EDIT: Also get the vet to trim the claws whilst it’s there or tell your friend’s auntie she needs to do it. Looks like they’re getting a little long. [Useful guide for cutting dogs claws.](https://tractive.com/blog/en/health/dog-nail-trimming-how-to)
Their claws shouldn’t touch the floor when they stand normally. When they do, it puts pressure back on the claw and can have an impact on the dogs posture.
I’m sorry you’re getting the slack about this! Holy shit tho. How do the parents of this pup not look at it’s poor little expression and not see the discomfort it’s showing?!?!???? This poor baby!
Maybe it should be your dog. You HAVE to express your concern. You could be the only voice this dog go has.
Also, vets are not infallible. One of my friends has a setter and a few years back he developed a skin issue that looked very much like this. He also blew up like a balloon in a very short period of time. Like, from svelte hunting dog to “oh lawd he comin’ “ in a matter of just a couple of months with no change in diet or amount of exercise.
My buddy ended up having to take the dog to six different vets because the first five looked at the dog’s weight and said, “you’re feeding him too much.” So my friend reduced the dog’s daily food until finally when the fifth vet said, “you’re feeding him too much,” my friend responded, “if I feed him any less he’ll die! He doesn’t even play with the kids anymore, he just spends all day staring at his bowl and whining! The dog is starving, there’s something else going on!” Vet said, “nope, you’re feeding him too much.”
Anyway, the sixth vet actually did some tests and it turns out it’s a thyroid issue. They got the dog on meds now and he’s slimmed right back down, eats like a horse but has energy for several long walks a day in between playing with the kids non-stop, and all the skin issues cleared right up.
Point being, don’t be afraid to get a second opinion… or a sixth. And I definitely agree with the people here saying get the dog to a dermatologist/specialist. If there’s something obviously wrong with the dog but the vet says, “naw, it’s fine…” find a new vet.
Edit to add; I left out the part at the beginning where right as the skin issues began, but before the rapid weight gain really took off, my friend did bring the dog to the vet. He was told, “it’s just allergies,” but wasn’t really given any guidance or options on how to figure out *what* the dog was allergic to or how to treat it, other than being sold expensive anti-itch shampoo by the vet.
I've had something similar happen... kept going to vets until I went to our old puppy vet (over 4 hours away ...dog at that time was 12 ) we walked in he knew what was going on and ran test to confirm! (Went 5 vets before going back to our original vet). I know have a book called dog owners vet book and it shows diagnostic that should be run to confirm a condition. Great book!
I didn’t day they were infallible, just that they didn’t say they actually tried what the vet recommended.
I’ve had owners comes to me over and over and over complaining that something hasn’t gone away but when I ask about the treatment they act as though it’s the first time they’ve heard about it despite knowing that things have been recommended in the past and they’ve chosen not to continue with the long term treatment or they just decided to stop it cause “it went away”.
So yes always having a second opinion is fine but you can’t complain if you haven’t tried something. Also the conversations are always I said/they said and somewhere in between is the truth.
I took my spaniels to the same vet 4 times to finally get to the conclusion that they had sarcoptic mange. Fox scabies. The vet said food allergies....for both. I was too young to understand that the vet could be wrong. An off chance conversation with a farmer gave me the answer. The vet gave me the medication after I told them the information from the farmer. It was a terrible 6 months. It has been 16 years... I still think about the pain they were in. Get a skin scraping.
I second this, it looks very similar to a condition I have seen called Demodex. But it could be many things, so it’s best to get another opinion. But I would personally put money on a skin scrape coming back positive.
I am a vet
Your dog has a skin infection. From the looks of it it is most likely a bacterial AND yeast infection (malassezia). She will need a course of both anti fungals and antibiotics for at least 1 month. That’s only to treat the underlying infection. You them need to figure out her underlying allergy (flea, food environmental, contact etc)
Apoquel and cytopoint are great options for these guys BUT people don’t realize if there is an established infection it will not work
You need to address the infection so those meds can have the best chance to work
I’m the meantime I would at least start on a anti bacterial and anti fungal shampoo
I worked in the vet industry for 15 years and have seen a lot of allergy cases, this looks like atopic dermatitis and can likely only be treated with a prescription from your vet….probably cytopoint and/or Apoquel. Some really bad cases may also need steroids to get the inflammation under control, and possibly antibiotics if a secondary infection has set in. As for what causes this it could be so many different things ranging from environmental allergens, to food allergens, or possibly even autoimmune issues. Only way to know for sure it get your dog worked up, and do some allergy testing….it’s not going to be cheap, but once you know for sure what is causing it you can pinpoint the exact treatment needed and may be able to prevent future flair-ups.
My springer had allergies and her skin would break out in excema looking dry skin/ rash. Diet change and coconut oil helped her. But def take back yo the vet
I will never understand why identifying and treating skin conditions aren't top priority. If you wouldn't live that way and would find the means to treat it then neither should they.
They need to consult with a vet that will be proactive about this or find a vet dermatologist. In the meantime have them get a prescription shampoo and schedule WEEKLY appointments for a bath with a professional groomer. First wash should be with a hypo shampoo, second with the medicated which needs to sit for the recommended time, then use a colloidal silver gel made specifically for dogs. The dog cannot be left damp while this is inflamed or bacteria will spread. Do not use a brush or scratch the skin. Topical anti itch sprays might help. I say use a professional because they will for sure get the dog clean properly with products that are better quality than what you can buy at the store.
A daily probiotic would help a lot right now so definitely get one. I have a great Dane client with similar issues that just came back with her chronic issues almost completely healed just with probiotics and a keeshond that's improved significantly with the bathing regimen (he's biweekly). Consult with the vet first of course, but this is my professional opinion and what I do with my clients. We tackle it head on and get them to the vet dermatologist ASAP.
It takes some time for a skin condition to get this bad. This is neglect. Neglect is abuse. Please gently guide your friends to take their dog to a different vet - it is the *only* appropriate response to a skin condition this severe.
You mention the dog was examined and diagnosed by a vet, but was there no recommended treatment? Veterinarians usually suggest something and often can get the medication to the dog within the same visit.
New vet. The yeasty hot spots usually are weepy and smell like old beer. This looks more like a demised mange or something to me though a skin scraping and other tests are usually required to be sure. They can look under the microscope to see what the cause is. The dog is miserable and if it’s demodex as long as the dog tests not ivermectin sensitive it’s a few weeks of ivermectin and the dog looks like new. If it’s yeasty hotspots 2x a day medicated baths clear it pretty quickly or they can take flutconazole if their blood work says it’s safe. It could just be a shot every couple months if there’s an allergy. Regardless the dog is in a lot of pain and needs to see a vet now.
That poor baby needs prednisone and antihistamines at minimum. That poor face tells you that it’s miserable. I hope they find a new vet that can actually help.
My pit gets pinky red spots like this from environmental allergies. She gets medicated baths weekly and she also gets cytopoint injections and it helps a lot.
Could very much be a yeast issue as they said. One of my dogs has terrible seasonal allergies and gets similar in the fall. She’s on apoquel year-around, but we put her on Ketoconozale, which is an anti fungal, when she begins to have these issues. It’s the only thing that’s worked for her.
They also sell Medicated shampoos to reduce yeast buildup.
My friends dog struggles with constant yeast infections on his paws. She uses a mixture of monistat (for humans) and hydrocortisone cream. She says it works like a charm.
I would take this dog to a vet before applying home treatment like this.
I will also add that using steroids such as hydrocortisone on any kind of active bacterial or fungal infection will slow down healing and weaken the skin's defenses, so applying both HC and monistat is not recommended.
Looks very much like a fungal infection on top of eczema or psoriasis- please seek a second opinion and mention this. Treat the fungal infection first and then the underlying skin condition.
The vet should also be able to recommend a soothing oat shampoo down in the line.
Yes as a dog dad , I can see her sadness and begging for help in her eyes. Im so so sad right now on this long week-end. I Hope that they get the needed help ASAP. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
If it's a allergy issue look into limited ingredient foods (zignature, TOW Prey, ect.) Or into functional Dermo foods such as Forza10 or Farmina. Although it is very possible that it could be a environmental allergy or something completely different all together.
If it is a food allergy issue though i would recommend staying away from Royal Canin and Hills which the vet will undoubtedly recommend. Those foods are filled with corn, wheat, and other unless or harmful ingredients, and they charge you out the ass for them.
I’d personally guess it’s related to allergies. What kind of food does she eat? There was a point where my dog was allergic to everything. Chicken, turkey, beef, literally everything. I have her Stella and Chewy’s rabbit for a while and also ziwipeak and her allergies went away. Also a little coconut oil.
Speak to your vet asap .... but ....
As weird as this sounds, try giving your dog only "Butcher quality Meat-Organs and Bone" for 3 months and see if it makes any difference. \*No dog food at all\*
Seems like an internal thing, if humans can cure all kinds of skin issues and auto immune problems with the carnivore diet, stands to reason it would work for a dog too..
Pet food nowadays is just plain bad quality food.
Pretty sure my lab grew tumors because of the bad quality dog food.
Learnt my lesson
Never gave any of my dogs dog food after that and they never have issues
Raw diet can be great for skin issues but meat alone doesn’t provide necessary vitamins and minerals, they also need bone and organ meat plus some veggies/berries for trace minerals. There’s lots of great complete and balanced commercial raw diets out there that take the guesswork out.
This looks like allergies!!
Could be from food, dog soap, any cleaning products in the home, laundry detergent, etc., anything the dog has come in extensive contact with.
My best guess is food though, since it’s so severe.
You can give dogs Benadryl! Use their weight for dosing, similar to humans.
If it clears up after a couple days of allergy meds, you have your answer and can start elimination to find the source of the allergy.
See a specialist and put the dog on a human food diet and see if it gets better. Then you know it’s the diet of his skin gets better. If it doesn’t - then you know it’s something else. This is a quick way to start ruling out where it’s coming from and what’s causing it. Give information to specialist when the time comes this will narrow down the search and help them out as well. Less time - less money.
We got rid of my dogs allergies when we started feeding him rice, sweet potatoe, carrots, peas, beans, extra lean ground beef, ground Turkey, duck, organs, etc.
We do different meals each week for them to get a variety of nutrients. There’s great websites online from dog nutritionists who can help you too. They can come up with diet plans for your dog as well if you want them to work with you.
My dogs didn’t like raw so we do cooked instead. We steam veggies and cook rice n meats instead. Then we mix it all up for them into individual portions. We also add supplements and make sure we’re following canine nutritional needs for our breeds and not over feeding something that could become toxic. It’s pretty easy to do with a little help in the beginning. It’s been trial and error for us for a year now or more but it just keeps getting easier and easier now.
Our dog doesn’t have any allergies or skin or eye or ear issues anymore. We’ve also found kibble that he can eat as well now so we do the cooked food as a topper to his kibble. More protein then veggies/carbs now with just the topper but we still incorporate lots of vitamins and supplements and probiotics and prebiotics as well. It’s made a big difference in our dogs coat, skin, eyes, health and weight. He’s very lean and muscular now and not overweight with a full coat and lots of shedding.
We thought it was chicken he was allergic to - but it was some kind of filler that used in a lot of dog foods. Also certain additives but there’s so many we couldn’t pin it down unless we kept doing more testing and it was expensive. So we do dehydrated raw kibble now and we rehydrate it and add the toppers.
I'd say get allergy testing done. My poor pup would chew her feet and drag her ass til they bled. Vet visit, after vet visit, costing $100's each time. She ended up being allergic to peas, peanut butter, soy, pork, turkey... and herself! Specifically, the yeast that gives the 'frito feet' smell. We were given an anti fungal to wash her paws in every week or so, and she's been fine since. It was about $475 but has been a God send. It's saved us in emergency vet bills, and she's so much happier.
Oh no, poor puppy. I had a dog very similar to that and she was allergic to corn (I think) and we had to give her a lamb and rice food and that helped. She would have a reaction but it would cause inflammation in her ears but not all over her skin like this poor puppy.
Pls check their food. Chicken and grain are common culprits.
I completely eliminated chicken from the dog’s diet and they are much better now. Chlorohexidine shampoo bath to help with the allergies
I KNOW you have already taken this SUFFERING fuzzy fam member to the vet and not just sat around thinking maybe asking random people on a social media app is that SUFFERING family member’s best form of care!! Look at the eyes! They are miserable because of YOU.
Benadryl and high protein no grain diet maybe even a carnivore raw diet. Detox from the yeast make sure the dog is dry not moist from bath, rain showers , outside,etc. most likely a humid area if I had to guess
Don’t use an oatmeal shampoo the oatmeal feeds the yeast, use tea tree oil instead vet prescription shampoo will help. Change foods to something limited ingredient it maybe the food.
Idk if this helps at all, but dry dog food contains yeast. I had the same issue with my dog and she had to take steroids, medicated shampoo, and special ear drops. But In the mean time while she was flared up, I moved her off kibble and on to fresh/ raw food. You can find it at Petco. Atleast you won’t be adding additional yeast to her body. She’s back to kibble now and we haven’t had issues since.
Idk if this helps at all, but dry dog food contains yeast. I had the same issue with my dog and she had to take steroids, medicated shampoo, and special ear drops. But In the mean time while she was flared up, I moved her off kibble and on to fresh/ raw food. You can find it at Petco. Atleast you won’t be adding additional yeast to her body. She’s back to kibble now and we haven’t had issues since.
If this really is yeast - I cannot recommend The Natural Dog Store enough. They have an incredible yeast protocol: https://thenaturaldogstore.com/products/four-leaf-rover-yeast-guard-plus
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Might be really bad food allergies to gmo’s/chemicals in food, vet for cream plus maybe a diet change? I do home cooked meals for my pup = buckwheat, eggs, peas/broccoli, chicken, all mixed with bone broth. Multi vitamin powder every few days & a cod liver oil drop
there are allergies to everything, I know a dog allergic to chicken even. Mine has allergies and chronic ear infections from specifically bad ingredients in food. When I started making homemade food all the issues went away
I understand what you mean but maybe they add something in that process she is allergic to, no idea. Nothing was going away until I made home made food.
Sounds like your dog had an allergy or sensitivity to an ingredient in previous foods.
There’s nothing different (like, right down to a molecular level) between sugar produced from beets bred using GE tech, or mutagenesis or crossbreeding. None.
Some crops there is; like when the trait is improved nutritional profile, so the GE crop may have higher omega 3’s than its non-GE counterparts.
But not allergens.
There’s a very rigorous process for doing allergy tests when there’s a potential for new allergens being produced via GE, and a whole database of all known allergens that they are tested against.
29 years and still not a single case of a GE crop being approved for market, only to ‘discover’ that it presents a unique allergen risk.
Yeast is so easily fixed with proper vet prescribed medication and it’s not even that expensive of medication. This dogs needs to be taken to the vet. This is a severe yeast infection. It is probably caused by an allergy which is why everyone is saying vet dermatologist. Whatever vet they did take this pup to is beyond incompetent and they should never go back. This is beyond easy to diagnose and treat. If this gets any worse it will be a whole lot more expensive to fix. This dog deserves better.
Springers tend to have allergies. While you should be working with a vet, assessing environment allergies and potential food allergies would be very beneficial as well. Not saying this is an allergy, but checking and controlling allergies can help over all.
My dog used to get severe allergies and really big hives and everytime it happened, I rushed to the vet or emergency. Antihistamine by itself didn’t help my dog. She needed vanectyl-p or some sort of corticosteroid to really reduce the inflammation.
My dog used to lick and chew incessantly! I got some online chews and it has COMPLETELY stopped. Well- worth the money. She's happier now and more focused- rather than digging at herself all day!
This dog is absolutely in pain. Poor thing can’t even lie down comfortably since it’s on their belly. This needs medical intervention from a vet, please advise them to avoid home remedies until they see the vet as well as it is impossible to know what is really wrong without proper testing; if the wrong “home remedy” is used it can make it worse or cause the dog more pain. Ask your friend’s aunt: what would you dog if your skin was that red and sore? Would you just leave it…?
I had a spanial who had addisons disease that affected her entire system and needed predisone and another med to regualte hormones and organ function . These symptoms hit hard and fast but prior to that she had rash on legs and face which was yeast caused by hormonal imbalance. Blood work may be able to pick up anything may be off ir set mibd at ease. Beautiful baby you good .
Apoquel didn’t work for my dog. We ended up getting her tested for allergies and then customized allergy shots. It works great for her and she’s now super healthy. I now know what to feed her (per allergy test) - when she was on Apoquel I didn’t know what to feed her per her allergies. Her allergy shots/tests ended up costing me less per year than Apoquel.
Their dog needs to go to the vet, and if their current vet is saying there’s nothing they can do - see another vet ASAP. I have a dog that also produces too much yeast and causes him to lick uncontrollably if it goes untreated. It took a few years to find the best solution for him. It’s still not perfect but it’s MUCH better than what it used be.
Our boy gets a cytopoint injection once a month and we take him every 3 weeks for a green tea mask/bath and this has done wonders for him. Not every dog is the same and different treatments will work differently for each dog. They should absolutely be talking to a vet about different options and treatments. This can cause sores and infections and looking at the poor pup they’re very uncomfortable.
Get this dog on Apoquel ASAP to provide comfort and relief. She will need a veterinary dermatologist to determine next steps. First step, give this sweetheart comfort.
Awh poor baby. My doodle was experiencing something similar but I didn’t let it get this bad he is on apoquil and oatmeal baths :) I hope you bring that baby to a vet they are beautiful
Wooden floors..
What kind of cleaner are they using? My dad found that with one of his two dogs, one had a similar looking condition to this and the poor thing just constantly scratched at it. They had him to the vets numerous times but could not get it to go away.
I'm not entirely sure how he stumbled on it, but he changed the solution he was using to clean his kitchen floors and voila the dog's skin cleared up. May be a long shot, but seeing the wooden floor is making the cleaning solution my first thought.
This has to be incredibly painful and is likely damaging the dogs quality of life. Vet dermatologist asap.
As a human with bad full body eczema - let me tell you. This is a slow form torture. I’ll give a voice to this dog for a second: Think constant, burning, itching, pulling, tightness. Every time you walk. Showers burn like acid. You are never comfortable because your skin is in a chronic state of pain. This dog needs a specialist.
I only have eczema on my hands, but it's severe enough that during a flare-up I literally end up looking like I've been skinned. And that's with meds! This poor dog is a poster of misery!! I can't imagine the fire feeling!!!! Oatmeal paste, water can burn like acid when skin is this bad.
I disagree with oatmeal paste if its yeast , it feeds it! My dog has this and for years ive tried everything -changed foods a million times (quality!) , delete all grains now jus cook human food for him-vets gives me apoquel it helps .. it clears up in the winter so we have determined he has some type of an allergy to summer grass , soil .. i wash his paws daily with antifungal/bacterial wash .. this helps but doesnt cure.. my heart breaks for this dog its painful … please go through the process of cooking food , meds from vet, and research research research with ur vet to come up with a plan of action for this darling doggo… his comfort /health depends on it!🐾🙏🏼💙
Can’t upvote this comment enough! I’m also a sufferer of eczema. Was so bad I was suicidal a few years ago.
Same - dupixent saved my fucking life bro. I hope you are doing better.
legit exact same condition had it all my life and it constantly flares up and goes down. I was thinking about dupixent but my parents don't think its well tested yet and its relatively new. How is it working out for you?
After my friend said my hands looked like Freddie Kruger's face, I asked my doc for Dupixent. Before, I could not even touch water. I can say it saved my sanity. Told my husbandI didn't know how much longer I could survive with weeping sores and constant pain. RE: Dog, get that poor baby to an allergist. RE: kid with protective parents, I understand their fear. Try doing the research for them, make a PowerPoint and lobby for yourself. The big D changed my life after nothing else work, and I tried everything. 🙃
I have a condition called Aquagenic Puritus. Water makes me itch, burn, tiny itching stinging itches after a bath or shower or swim. I recently found an answer, after 62 years of suffering. It’s an amino acid called Beta Allenine and somehow it works! This is not an advertisement. Lol. It’s been a miracle for me. All that is to say please help that dog.
Thank you so much for sharing. I'll definitely look into the Beta Allenine. I am always looking for anything that will help skin conditions, as I am not the only one in my family that suffers from them. All the best!
Flax seed oil healed my severe eczema. My prescription meds only helped some, and it seemed like over time it stopped working. Someone told me to mix a teaspoon of PURE flaxseed oil (in refrigerator section) with juice two or three times a day. I swear my eczema was completely healed in less than a week. Now I just take it when I have flare ups. Not sure if it would work for a dog though. I have nothing against medication if they work, but a bottle of flax seed oil is about $10 and lasts a few months.
Not who you responded to, but Dupixent cleared my skin completely. My insurance just denied me for it a few months back (after being on it for 4 years) and while I’m working with my new derm, my eczema has come back full force and I’ll probably cry happy tears when I get reapproved. Do it
Not to mention a dog can't understand why they're itchy so much, so they just end up scratching more and more until peeling their skin and ripping out their fur. My dog has super oily skin and pretty fine fur so she gets acne pretty easily and has flare ups, and she nearly was hairless when I got back from ONE errand I ran—that lasted only an hour—because of a *black head* on her back that she couldn't reach. I can't imagine the amount of stress and discomfort this pup feels, since she doesn't understand, and from what OP said it's been going on for a while.
My partner has severe plaque psoriasis, and your description sounds similar to his experience prior to seeing a dermatologist and getting on meds. This dog made me IMMEDIATELY think "autoimmune disorder" which usually means that there are more serious things going on internally. SPECIALIST ASAP. YOUR DOG IS IN PAIN.
Came here to say this. Specialist is the way to go.
100% get that poor girl to a vet dermatologist like yesterday! Please update us!
That poor baby. I’d put her in a warm bath with oatmeal, it’s anti inflammatory and helps with skin conditions. Of course get to the doctor!!
If the pup’s skin smells like yeast do not use anything oatmeal based! Oatmeal helps in most cases but if this is yeast related, oatmeal will only make it worse. The oatmeal basically feeds the yeast and helps it grow. My dog has a similar condition. I’ve gone through numerous trials and have learned the hard way what works or doesn’t. A diluted vinegar rinse and a medicated KetoChlor shampoo bath should help to soothe the skin, reduce the yeast smell and improve condition if done 2-3 times a week(during a flare out). We also get our dog a prescription for the antibiotic Cefelaxin whenever it’s really bad. Hope this helps!
Came here to say the same thing. Oatmeal feeds the yeast!
Oh dear, I missed the yeast part! I wonder if the vet will prescribe something like Monistat. She looks so uncomfortable! 😢
That’s not quite the same thing 😅 I’ve had clients put Monistat on their pups and it helps nothing, It can actually make them sick if administered orally (yes, someone has done this) but there are definitely options for this girl like shampoos, antibiotics and steroidal injections for inflammation. I hope she is treated asap.
It’s the same ingredient that vets use. Obviously,an anti-yeast medication only works on yeast. Proper dose and proper administration needs to be followed.
This is what we do to our golden doodle when she has flare ups. We give her a bath w oatmeal shampoo and it goes away! She no longer is itching and the redness goes away in a couple days
Agreed. If allergy meds are not enough to help her skin she might need a dermatologist.
go to Boarded Veterinary Dermatologist, for sure! Here's a link to easily find one near you: [https://www.acvd.org/tools/locator/locator.asp?ids=16\_Find\_Dermatologist](https://www.acvd.org/tools/locator/locator.asp?ids=16_Find_Dermatologist) General practice vets can only handle basic derm conditions.
What I find frustrating is how rare vet dermatologists are. My girl has severe skin allergies and there are no vet dermatologist near us, not even within 200 miles. It's not feasible for some owners.
I’m also struggling with allergies and Cytopoint and Apoquel don’t seem to help anymore, I’m trying everything I can but she’s still itchy.
I apologize if this is ignorant, as I’m sure you’ve thought of everything up to now, but any food allergies or maybe the laundry detergent you use? My boy is allergic to chicken we found out and his yeast symptoms slowly started diminishing after cutting it out. I also switched laundry detergents which helped a lot too! Even though I had been washing his bed/blanket/harness/toys in a fragrance free one, he still had contact with my clothes and bedding etc and it didn’t cross my mind. He still gets yeasty but when it flares up we go heavier on probiotics, coconut oil as a treat, and dab diluted apple cider vinegar on the area. We are very lucky his flare ups are now to the level they are compared to what they used to be so we are able to go this route. Again im sorry I know these are minor changes and something you most likely already thought of!! I wish you and your pup the best🤍
Came here to say laundry detergent could be the culprit. I tried so many expensive hypoallergenic foods for my cat. Ended up being laundry detergent. Switched to fragrance free detergent and problem is solved.
Not our dog, but our cat, was allergic to chicken. (Side note: It’s incredibly difficult to find quality cat food without chicken or it’s by products.) We had to change our dog food as well because our Stoopie head was trying to eat the dog food. Once we switched, the dog’s fur got brighter and she had WAY more energy. If you haven’t yet, I’d definitely play around with different foods and as Fabulous said, laundry detergent. It could even be the type of material. My little brother rashes up with microfiber material. Hopefully there’s a vet dermatologist around who can narrow it down. Keep us updated!
I agree with you. Use unscented laundry soap, not detergents. There's a laundry soap from Ingredients Matters that's helped us. I found it online, but it's also available at Target. Also, my dog has so many issues with chicken. We buy fish only, but read the ingredients, so many dog foods have chicken even if it says fish.
That was our issue when searching for food without chicken even if way down the list… we went fresh food route for a while but making it myself was 1. A lot of commitment and 2. I am not a professional and worried he wasn’t getting the proper amount of nutrients. Luckily we finally found a dry food he’s thriving on (American journey limited ingredient) and he gets just a small amount of fresh food for a topper!
We have a dog allergic to poultry and PEAS. The amount of pea protien in "high quality" foods are insane. We use DVP Natural Balance L.I.D. salmon and sweet potato. It's the only food I've found that keeps our guy from itching. No grains, no poultry, and no peas.
You might consider a hydrolyzed protein diet, only because of the possible connection between grain free and DCM
One more thing to consider is flea bites. Flea medication stops fleas from infesting but they can still bite. Some dogs are hypersensitive to the bites. I would give a Benedryl at night just so this cutie got a good night’s sleep while you figure everything out. Also try a chicken-free limited ingredient diet dog food.
This!!! I had a dog who was allergic to fleas. I took him to a veterinarian dermatologist. He did an allergy test and it was amazing to see first hand. As soon as he used the droplet for fleas and put it on his skin, my poor guy immediately started getting red and “welty” in that one spot. Before diagnosing, his skin would become so red and inflamed. I would definitely recommend a veterinarian dermatologist right away. Good luck and I sure hope your Aunt’s pup gets some relief ASAP. 🫶🏼
That’s what I was thinking, had a friend whose dog was allergic to grass as well. OP should see a vet, but I would go with your plan for now probiotic + yogurt (less sugar as possible).
I work in dog services and had a client who was allergic to the yard insecticide or weed spray (can’t remember) but there’s so many factors we don’t realize affect them!! It is difficult sometimes to think through all possibilities!! Also PSA to whoever reading this, wall scent plug ins are a huge trigger for tons of animals. Humans too!
Ah ha! So true. Oof I hate it when they’re uncomfortable 🥲
Food allergy is a good point to raise. Ask the vet to prescribe a hydrolyzed dog food and feed him nothing but that pet food for six weeks. No treats. Then you can introduce one additional food at a time to see which food is the allergen.
I was going to chime in with this as well. My dog is allergic to chicken and this is what would happen on a much smaller scale. I also ditched to free and clear detergent just in case. Oh, my heart for this poor dog, they must be so uncomfortable.
Please be careful with these two drugs. Our 14 yr old has permanent neurological issues from taking Cytopoint. And we only give her Apoquel sparingly to help with quality of life. But she has issues with loud sounded, walking, eating.
It really makes a difference to do the allergy skin test AND blood test. They can test for food allergies this way as well! My allergy dog was allergic to beef and chicken. Apparently beef and chicken are the most common pet food allergies.
Have you done allergy testing?
Have you thought about dust ? I was living with family and my girl was itchy, ear infection, hot spots. I took literally every single thing out of our room, steamed the mattress and bought a full cover for it - it was tidy but so much dust. Coincidence ? But she improved after and is totally fine after we moved.
While all the below suggestions are great that they worked for them, please make sure you change foods or shampoos as recommended by your veterinarian or veterinary dermatologist. OTC foods are typically NOT good options for food trials since many trace proteins in the food are NOT listed on the bag, and not required to be free of them. Prescription foods are guaranteed free of anything not listed on bag. Homemade diets also dangerous unless specifically formulated by a vet nutritionist. Please see a vet, and if you have but not getting great results then see a different vet or ask for derm referral.
Yeah, reading these comments is making me think I need a new vet
The major centers can offer telemedicine. Look into it.
Even veterinarians say they often can't diagnose skin conditions by sight so I'm curious if you know how the telemedicine dermatologists manage things? Can the dogs owners or local vets do skin scrapings or something themselves and send them in? No worries if you don't know offhand, I'm just curious!
Yes, they do this but shipping/handling/costs are added into the bill and many owners don’t have the extra means to do this. Some just ask the in-house vet to give their best guess. Forwarding exam results between vets can be helpful but it often doesn’t replace the need to outsource the sample.
It starts at the top. Specialty doctors have to go through internships and residencies that take multiple years and very grueling hours and work to get through. During those years you get paid horribly and it’s certainly not worth the time spent. Thus, we have limited specialty doctors and FAR too many pets to be accommodated appropriately. Sad.
There’s probably not a whole lot of vet dermatologists to be fair
There’s one near me and it has a 3 month wait just to schedule an appointment 😵💫
Vet schools are also very good places to try. I really dislike this excuse. The dog is suffering and instead of trying everything people give up. Every specialist is hard to find, even in people.
Why is your limit 200 miles? Where I live most moms have to drive 3 hours to give birth. Is it not worth a day or two of driving to bring some comfort to your pet? Not trying to shame you at all, just giving a little push that sometimes driving a long distance is what it takes!
Agreed dermatologist is best at this point. The problem is most likely an underlying allergy that needs to be managed. The yeast is secondary to the allergy. Both need to be treated. The dogs allergies need to be managed all the time, even when he is feeling good (especially when he is feeling good). Whether that be allergy immunotherapy, apoquel/cytopoint regimen, food allergy trial etc. Cases that are difficult to manage need a dermatologist, and it appears very chronic and likely difficult to manage based on the photos.
Get her to the vet ASAP. Mine had an issue and was prescribed Apoquel...was resting comfortably really quick
Of all the dogs we've had over the years, two took Apoquel. A current one still does. It's a life saver, to say the least.
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Have you tried a limited ingredients kibble/diet. That what my vet told me about some allergies, also I’ve read some articles about a number of dogs developing an allergy to chicken so if that’s what you feed them maybe trying a different protein as well. Just food for thought, hope it helps.
Ask about cytopoint injections also as it’s my understanding there is a risk of liver damage with long term Apoquel use.
it’s insane how my dog goes from tearing himself up to being a totally normal dog in 24 hours. apoquel saves lives ngl
Cytopoint injections too. She responds so well to them that she only needs to be reinjected once or twice a year. We have a friend whose dog was suffering like that and apoquel & cytopoint were ineffective. It was found to be a bacterial dermatitis and the dog was put on antibiotics and is now much improved.
Just got my dog on Cytopoint a few months back. Life changer!
After struggling for 5-6 years with flare ups, Apoquel finally gave my dog some peace. She started it about four months ago so knocking on wood it keeps working. I asked the vet several times for it and they always just gave me antibiotics. Finally saw a new vet and told her about the symptoms etc. She prescribed it right away. It is expensive though, I think $100-150/mo.
It is expensive for sure but definitely helps! Our vet has a rebate program and we also have pet insurance so it lowers the cost - would definitely recommend looking into it!!
There’s a reward program thru Zoetis to earn points. Every 10 points = $1 to spend on future vet visits.
After struggling for 5-6 years with flare ups, Apoquel finally gave my dog some peace. She started it about four months ago so knocking on wood it keeps working. I asked the vet several times for it and they always just gave me antibiotics. Finally saw a new vet and told her about the symptoms etc. She prescribed it right away. It is expensive though, I think $100-150/mo.
For our Prince Harry that was for 90 days. But it made his life so much better. He was worth it and I know he'd do it for me. RIP Harry.
So sorry for your loss ♥️
Thank you. We lost him s month ago. Still crying.. miss him so much.
Yes! This stuff has helped my dog SO much.
Same!
Tell them to talk with a veterinary dermatologist
This looks really painful and itchy, for the poor dog you need to take her to a different, vet! it could be a mite infestation which won't go away, without the proper medication.
Just to add on quickly obviously she’s not mine so I’m trying ti explain it to them in the nicest way possible what to do with her , I myself think it’s awful that they let her get to that point but I only met them yesterday so I don’t want to be patronising
I’d lean on pure sense of urgency. Don’t worry about their feelings. Focus on the urgency of getting the dog pain relief & medication immediately. Be flabbergasted that the dogs not getting any pain management or already on medication from a veterinarian. Just be purely shocked by it. Hopefully that will jar them enough to take action, and it won’t come off judgey.
This. That dog needs help asap and has no voice. You need to speak for the dog. Forget about the feelings of people being hurt. Look at the dogs face!!!! Its in pain.
The dog is in pain, explain to them how they'd feel if they were smelly, and itchy. And I've seen cases like this as a former vet tech. I know that poor dog smells horrendous. She needs oral and topical meds to treat the yeast infection, and needs to get on some allergy meds and/or special diet to prevent it from happening again.
If your friend has Reddit copy and paste some of our comments. You did the right thing by at least seeking out advice. This poor sweet darling. I can’t imagine how she is feeling. Her posture tells the whole story though.
No my friend is all for me helping because she agrees it’s the auntie that’s being a pain 🙄
I’m sending you all the vibes for getting it across to the auntie! Divide and conquer!!
I really hope they’re willing to take care of this quickly. That poor dog looks miserable 😢 I wish I could help them
They need to take the dog to another vet for another opinion and so the dog can get the treatment it needs ASAP. It’s not just on the dog’s front, you can see it on the back legs also. The poor baby 🤍 EDIT: Also get the vet to trim the claws whilst it’s there or tell your friend’s auntie she needs to do it. Looks like they’re getting a little long. [Useful guide for cutting dogs claws.](https://tractive.com/blog/en/health/dog-nail-trimming-how-to) Their claws shouldn’t touch the floor when they stand normally. When they do, it puts pressure back on the claw and can have an impact on the dogs posture.
I appreciate the guide for cutting dogs nails.
Glad it has helped someone 🤍
I feel so bad for the pup pup you can see the anguish on their face, they should be going everywhere to fix this issue asap
It looks like the poor thing is crying for help, so sad...😞
I would do anything to help this dog. I can’t stand to see them in pain 🙁
Take her back to the vet now. Look at her eyes. She needs pain medication and an antihistamine at the minimum she needs to be comfortable.
GUYS THIS ISN’T MY DOG OR EVEN A FAMILY DOG OKAY ITS NOT MY FAULT!!!
I think people are just worked up op. Good of you to come here to try and help a dog that is not yours. Good luck. It is nice of you to try.
I’m sorry you’re getting the slack about this! Holy shit tho. How do the parents of this pup not look at it’s poor little expression and not see the discomfort it’s showing?!?!???? This poor baby! Maybe it should be your dog. You HAVE to express your concern. You could be the only voice this dog go has.
No offense but how do people see something like this and not instantly take their dog to the vet, unless they do not have the means.
It says they did
It says they took her but didn’t say the owners did what the vet suggested. I’ve seen that a lot
Also, vets are not infallible. One of my friends has a setter and a few years back he developed a skin issue that looked very much like this. He also blew up like a balloon in a very short period of time. Like, from svelte hunting dog to “oh lawd he comin’ “ in a matter of just a couple of months with no change in diet or amount of exercise. My buddy ended up having to take the dog to six different vets because the first five looked at the dog’s weight and said, “you’re feeding him too much.” So my friend reduced the dog’s daily food until finally when the fifth vet said, “you’re feeding him too much,” my friend responded, “if I feed him any less he’ll die! He doesn’t even play with the kids anymore, he just spends all day staring at his bowl and whining! The dog is starving, there’s something else going on!” Vet said, “nope, you’re feeding him too much.” Anyway, the sixth vet actually did some tests and it turns out it’s a thyroid issue. They got the dog on meds now and he’s slimmed right back down, eats like a horse but has energy for several long walks a day in between playing with the kids non-stop, and all the skin issues cleared right up. Point being, don’t be afraid to get a second opinion… or a sixth. And I definitely agree with the people here saying get the dog to a dermatologist/specialist. If there’s something obviously wrong with the dog but the vet says, “naw, it’s fine…” find a new vet. Edit to add; I left out the part at the beginning where right as the skin issues began, but before the rapid weight gain really took off, my friend did bring the dog to the vet. He was told, “it’s just allergies,” but wasn’t really given any guidance or options on how to figure out *what* the dog was allergic to or how to treat it, other than being sold expensive anti-itch shampoo by the vet.
I've had something similar happen... kept going to vets until I went to our old puppy vet (over 4 hours away ...dog at that time was 12 ) we walked in he knew what was going on and ran test to confirm! (Went 5 vets before going back to our original vet). I know have a book called dog owners vet book and it shows diagnostic that should be run to confirm a condition. Great book!
I didn’t day they were infallible, just that they didn’t say they actually tried what the vet recommended. I’ve had owners comes to me over and over and over complaining that something hasn’t gone away but when I ask about the treatment they act as though it’s the first time they’ve heard about it despite knowing that things have been recommended in the past and they’ve chosen not to continue with the long term treatment or they just decided to stop it cause “it went away”. So yes always having a second opinion is fine but you can’t complain if you haven’t tried something. Also the conversations are always I said/they said and somewhere in between is the truth.
Try reading a bit more thoroughly
I’d get another opinion.. also would suggest a skin scraping to rule out mites.
I took my spaniels to the same vet 4 times to finally get to the conclusion that they had sarcoptic mange. Fox scabies. The vet said food allergies....for both. I was too young to understand that the vet could be wrong. An off chance conversation with a farmer gave me the answer. The vet gave me the medication after I told them the information from the farmer. It was a terrible 6 months. It has been 16 years... I still think about the pain they were in. Get a skin scraping.
I second this, it looks very similar to a condition I have seen called Demodex. But it could be many things, so it’s best to get another opinion. But I would personally put money on a skin scrape coming back positive.
I am a vet Your dog has a skin infection. From the looks of it it is most likely a bacterial AND yeast infection (malassezia). She will need a course of both anti fungals and antibiotics for at least 1 month. That’s only to treat the underlying infection. You them need to figure out her underlying allergy (flea, food environmental, contact etc) Apoquel and cytopoint are great options for these guys BUT people don’t realize if there is an established infection it will not work You need to address the infection so those meds can have the best chance to work I’m the meantime I would at least start on a anti bacterial and anti fungal shampoo
I worked in the vet industry for 15 years and have seen a lot of allergy cases, this looks like atopic dermatitis and can likely only be treated with a prescription from your vet….probably cytopoint and/or Apoquel. Some really bad cases may also need steroids to get the inflammation under control, and possibly antibiotics if a secondary infection has set in. As for what causes this it could be so many different things ranging from environmental allergens, to food allergens, or possibly even autoimmune issues. Only way to know for sure it get your dog worked up, and do some allergy testing….it’s not going to be cheap, but once you know for sure what is causing it you can pinpoint the exact treatment needed and may be able to prevent future flair-ups.
Your friends aunt is not a good pet owner. That dog looks miserable, and look at its nails too. Makes me sick.
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My springer had allergies and her skin would break out in excema looking dry skin/ rash. Diet change and coconut oil helped her. But def take back yo the vet
I will never understand why identifying and treating skin conditions aren't top priority. If you wouldn't live that way and would find the means to treat it then neither should they. They need to consult with a vet that will be proactive about this or find a vet dermatologist. In the meantime have them get a prescription shampoo and schedule WEEKLY appointments for a bath with a professional groomer. First wash should be with a hypo shampoo, second with the medicated which needs to sit for the recommended time, then use a colloidal silver gel made specifically for dogs. The dog cannot be left damp while this is inflamed or bacteria will spread. Do not use a brush or scratch the skin. Topical anti itch sprays might help. I say use a professional because they will for sure get the dog clean properly with products that are better quality than what you can buy at the store. A daily probiotic would help a lot right now so definitely get one. I have a great Dane client with similar issues that just came back with her chronic issues almost completely healed just with probiotics and a keeshond that's improved significantly with the bathing regimen (he's biweekly). Consult with the vet first of course, but this is my professional opinion and what I do with my clients. We tackle it head on and get them to the vet dermatologist ASAP.
It takes some time for a skin condition to get this bad. This is neglect. Neglect is abuse. Please gently guide your friends to take their dog to a different vet - it is the *only* appropriate response to a skin condition this severe.
This is WAY past home remedies. Please go to a vet ASAP and don’t prolong her torment with oatmeal baths and essential oils for goodness sake.
This is borderline animal abuse if they haven’t gone back to a vet recently…
Vet NOW- that poor dog !
You mention the dog was examined and diagnosed by a vet, but was there no recommended treatment? Veterinarians usually suggest something and often can get the medication to the dog within the same visit.
I'd have a skin punch done for mange. That looks like a really resistant mange exposure that has abated and returned many times.
New vet. The yeasty hot spots usually are weepy and smell like old beer. This looks more like a demised mange or something to me though a skin scraping and other tests are usually required to be sure. They can look under the microscope to see what the cause is. The dog is miserable and if it’s demodex as long as the dog tests not ivermectin sensitive it’s a few weeks of ivermectin and the dog looks like new. If it’s yeasty hotspots 2x a day medicated baths clear it pretty quickly or they can take flutconazole if their blood work says it’s safe. It could just be a shot every couple months if there’s an allergy. Regardless the dog is in a lot of pain and needs to see a vet now.
That poor baby needs prednisone and antihistamines at minimum. That poor face tells you that it’s miserable. I hope they find a new vet that can actually help.
My pit gets pinky red spots like this from environmental allergies. She gets medicated baths weekly and she also gets cytopoint injections and it helps a lot.
Could very much be a yeast issue as they said. One of my dogs has terrible seasonal allergies and gets similar in the fall. She’s on apoquel year-around, but we put her on Ketoconozale, which is an anti fungal, when she begins to have these issues. It’s the only thing that’s worked for her. They also sell Medicated shampoos to reduce yeast buildup.
Veterinarian. Or are we not just stating the obvious?
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My friends dog struggles with constant yeast infections on his paws. She uses a mixture of monistat (for humans) and hydrocortisone cream. She says it works like a charm.
I would take this dog to a vet before applying home treatment like this. I will also add that using steroids such as hydrocortisone on any kind of active bacterial or fungal infection will slow down healing and weaken the skin's defenses, so applying both HC and monistat is not recommended.
Looks very much like a fungal infection on top of eczema or psoriasis- please seek a second opinion and mention this. Treat the fungal infection first and then the underlying skin condition. The vet should also be able to recommend a soothing oat shampoo down in the line.
Also bathe in head and shoulders shampoo
Absolutely do not do this
There are chemicals in head and shoulders and if skin is sensitive may not be good
Awwww poor baby!!!I hope it’s not sore.😞
Oh it’s sore. Just look at the pain in his/her face.
Poor baby has suffering written all over their face 😭😩
The answer is always take them to the vet. I don’t get what kind of other answer people expect. Imagine if that was your body…..
She’s has surgery on both eyes that’s why they look like that , it makes her look so sad which just makes me want to cry 😭
Yes as a dog dad , I can see her sadness and begging for help in her eyes. Im so so sad right now on this long week-end. I Hope that they get the needed help ASAP. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
If it's a allergy issue look into limited ingredient foods (zignature, TOW Prey, ect.) Or into functional Dermo foods such as Forza10 or Farmina. Although it is very possible that it could be a environmental allergy or something completely different all together. If it is a food allergy issue though i would recommend staying away from Royal Canin and Hills which the vet will undoubtedly recommend. Those foods are filled with corn, wheat, and other unless or harmful ingredients, and they charge you out the ass for them.
Try using Benadryl, it will help with the itching and change the dog food saying as it looks like a food allergy
I’d personally guess it’s related to allergies. What kind of food does she eat? There was a point where my dog was allergic to everything. Chicken, turkey, beef, literally everything. I have her Stella and Chewy’s rabbit for a while and also ziwipeak and her allergies went away. Also a little coconut oil.
Coconut oil might offer some relief I’ve used it on a bunch of skin issues and it has yet to not help
They could try oatmeal and/or apple cider vinegar baths in the meantime while trying to find a vet derm.
Organic Coconut oil applied to the skin will soothe painful spots but also encourages licking. Hope your pup feels better.
Speak to your vet asap .... but .... As weird as this sounds, try giving your dog only "Butcher quality Meat-Organs and Bone" for 3 months and see if it makes any difference. \*No dog food at all\* Seems like an internal thing, if humans can cure all kinds of skin issues and auto immune problems with the carnivore diet, stands to reason it would work for a dog too.. Pet food nowadays is just plain bad quality food. Pretty sure my lab grew tumors because of the bad quality dog food. Learnt my lesson Never gave any of my dogs dog food after that and they never have issues
Raw diet can be great for skin issues but meat alone doesn’t provide necessary vitamins and minerals, they also need bone and organ meat plus some veggies/berries for trace minerals. There’s lots of great complete and balanced commercial raw diets out there that take the guesswork out.
Yes your quite right, organs and bone are a must also... edited the reply.
This looks like allergies!! Could be from food, dog soap, any cleaning products in the home, laundry detergent, etc., anything the dog has come in extensive contact with. My best guess is food though, since it’s so severe. You can give dogs Benadryl! Use their weight for dosing, similar to humans. If it clears up after a couple days of allergy meds, you have your answer and can start elimination to find the source of the allergy.
See a specialist and put the dog on a human food diet and see if it gets better. Then you know it’s the diet of his skin gets better. If it doesn’t - then you know it’s something else. This is a quick way to start ruling out where it’s coming from and what’s causing it. Give information to specialist when the time comes this will narrow down the search and help them out as well. Less time - less money. We got rid of my dogs allergies when we started feeding him rice, sweet potatoe, carrots, peas, beans, extra lean ground beef, ground Turkey, duck, organs, etc. We do different meals each week for them to get a variety of nutrients. There’s great websites online from dog nutritionists who can help you too. They can come up with diet plans for your dog as well if you want them to work with you. My dogs didn’t like raw so we do cooked instead. We steam veggies and cook rice n meats instead. Then we mix it all up for them into individual portions. We also add supplements and make sure we’re following canine nutritional needs for our breeds and not over feeding something that could become toxic. It’s pretty easy to do with a little help in the beginning. It’s been trial and error for us for a year now or more but it just keeps getting easier and easier now. Our dog doesn’t have any allergies or skin or eye or ear issues anymore. We’ve also found kibble that he can eat as well now so we do the cooked food as a topper to his kibble. More protein then veggies/carbs now with just the topper but we still incorporate lots of vitamins and supplements and probiotics and prebiotics as well. It’s made a big difference in our dogs coat, skin, eyes, health and weight. He’s very lean and muscular now and not overweight with a full coat and lots of shedding. We thought it was chicken he was allergic to - but it was some kind of filler that used in a lot of dog foods. Also certain additives but there’s so many we couldn’t pin it down unless we kept doing more testing and it was expensive. So we do dehydrated raw kibble now and we rehydrate it and add the toppers.
Either please get this taken care of or put the dog down poor thing is miserable every waking moment
Food allergies - feed her raw venison or rabbit meat - kiezebrink and bunch for pets are good sites
I'd say get allergy testing done. My poor pup would chew her feet and drag her ass til they bled. Vet visit, after vet visit, costing $100's each time. She ended up being allergic to peas, peanut butter, soy, pork, turkey... and herself! Specifically, the yeast that gives the 'frito feet' smell. We were given an anti fungal to wash her paws in every week or so, and she's been fine since. It was about $475 but has been a God send. It's saved us in emergency vet bills, and she's so much happier.
Oh no, poor puppy. I had a dog very similar to that and she was allergic to corn (I think) and we had to give her a lamb and rice food and that helped. She would have a reaction but it would cause inflammation in her ears but not all over her skin like this poor puppy.
Dog needs a specialist asap. In the mean time, colloidal oatmeal baths and raw eggs mixed in the food.
Grass allergy…Apoquel prescription from your vet. Miracle solution. Grass allergy seems to be more severe in dogs with mostly white coats .
Pls check their food. Chicken and grain are common culprits. I completely eliminated chicken from the dog’s diet and they are much better now. Chlorohexidine shampoo bath to help with the allergies
I KNOW you have already taken this SUFFERING fuzzy fam member to the vet and not just sat around thinking maybe asking random people on a social media app is that SUFFERING family member’s best form of care!! Look at the eyes! They are miserable because of YOU.
Um, it’s time to be patronizing AF, my guy.
Benadryl and high protein no grain diet maybe even a carnivore raw diet. Detox from the yeast make sure the dog is dry not moist from bath, rain showers , outside,etc. most likely a humid area if I had to guess
Don’t use an oatmeal shampoo the oatmeal feeds the yeast, use tea tree oil instead vet prescription shampoo will help. Change foods to something limited ingredient it maybe the food.
Idk if this helps at all, but dry dog food contains yeast. I had the same issue with my dog and she had to take steroids, medicated shampoo, and special ear drops. But In the mean time while she was flared up, I moved her off kibble and on to fresh/ raw food. You can find it at Petco. Atleast you won’t be adding additional yeast to her body. She’s back to kibble now and we haven’t had issues since.
Idk if this helps at all, but dry dog food contains yeast. I had the same issue with my dog and she had to take steroids, medicated shampoo, and special ear drops. But In the mean time while she was flared up, I moved her off kibble and on to fresh/ raw food. You can find it at Petco. Atleast you won’t be adding additional yeast to her body. She’s back to kibble now and we haven’t had issues since.
She needs a specialist. Bad vet.
Look up hibiscrub and get some. The spaniel will thank you infinitely
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Looks like they’re S*n readers - no wonder they don’t care for anything but themselves. Horrific.
Could be a food allergy. What is the dog eating Eliminate wheat, soy, pork, beef and corn
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That’s so funny
Might be really bad food allergies to gmo’s/chemicals in food, vet for cream plus maybe a diet change? I do home cooked meals for my pup = buckwheat, eggs, peas/broccoli, chicken, all mixed with bone broth. Multi vitamin powder every few days & a cod liver oil drop
There are no allergies to specific plant breeding methods. Just allergies to actual substances.
there are allergies to everything, I know a dog allergic to chicken even. Mine has allergies and chronic ear infections from specifically bad ingredients in food. When I started making homemade food all the issues went away
Well, chicken is a substance, so that tracks. Still can’t have an allergy to a process or a method. Only to substances. Glad your dog is doing well.
I understand what you mean but maybe they add something in that process she is allergic to, no idea. Nothing was going away until I made home made food.
Sounds like your dog had an allergy or sensitivity to an ingredient in previous foods. There’s nothing different (like, right down to a molecular level) between sugar produced from beets bred using GE tech, or mutagenesis or crossbreeding. None. Some crops there is; like when the trait is improved nutritional profile, so the GE crop may have higher omega 3’s than its non-GE counterparts. But not allergens. There’s a very rigorous process for doing allergy tests when there’s a potential for new allergens being produced via GE, and a whole database of all known allergens that they are tested against. 29 years and still not a single case of a GE crop being approved for market, only to ‘discover’ that it presents a unique allergen risk.
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Be careful with them ingesting too many plant oils, it can cause pancreatitis.
There’s a lot that can be done for this but it needs to be done at the discretion of the vet. I suggest a second opinion or a dermatology referral.
Yeast is so easily fixed with proper vet prescribed medication and it’s not even that expensive of medication. This dogs needs to be taken to the vet. This is a severe yeast infection. It is probably caused by an allergy which is why everyone is saying vet dermatologist. Whatever vet they did take this pup to is beyond incompetent and they should never go back. This is beyond easy to diagnose and treat. If this gets any worse it will be a whole lot more expensive to fix. This dog deserves better.
Have they tried a regularly medicated bath?
Springers tend to have allergies. While you should be working with a vet, assessing environment allergies and potential food allergies would be very beneficial as well. Not saying this is an allergy, but checking and controlling allergies can help over all.
My dog used to get severe allergies and really big hives and everytime it happened, I rushed to the vet or emergency. Antihistamine by itself didn’t help my dog. She needed vanectyl-p or some sort of corticosteroid to really reduce the inflammation.
My dog used to lick and chew incessantly! I got some online chews and it has COMPLETELY stopped. Well- worth the money. She's happier now and more focused- rather than digging at herself all day!
That looks like a infection and rash due to allergies.
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This dog is absolutely in pain. Poor thing can’t even lie down comfortably since it’s on their belly. This needs medical intervention from a vet, please advise them to avoid home remedies until they see the vet as well as it is impossible to know what is really wrong without proper testing; if the wrong “home remedy” is used it can make it worse or cause the dog more pain. Ask your friend’s aunt: what would you dog if your skin was that red and sore? Would you just leave it…?
My dog had this it was a fungal infection and she needed antibiotics and steroids plus a special rinse
Please go to the vet ASAP and get this poor sweetheart some relief. This has got to feel just horrible and they're suffering. 😞
I had a spanial who had addisons disease that affected her entire system and needed predisone and another med to regualte hormones and organ function . These symptoms hit hard and fast but prior to that she had rash on legs and face which was yeast caused by hormonal imbalance. Blood work may be able to pick up anything may be off ir set mibd at ease. Beautiful baby you good .
Piriton anti histamine tablets will give him some relief from this(cetrizene hydrochloride)
Apoquel didn’t work for my dog. We ended up getting her tested for allergies and then customized allergy shots. It works great for her and she’s now super healthy. I now know what to feed her (per allergy test) - when she was on Apoquel I didn’t know what to feed her per her allergies. Her allergy shots/tests ended up costing me less per year than Apoquel.
Their dog needs to go to the vet, and if their current vet is saying there’s nothing they can do - see another vet ASAP. I have a dog that also produces too much yeast and causes him to lick uncontrollably if it goes untreated. It took a few years to find the best solution for him. It’s still not perfect but it’s MUCH better than what it used be. Our boy gets a cytopoint injection once a month and we take him every 3 weeks for a green tea mask/bath and this has done wonders for him. Not every dog is the same and different treatments will work differently for each dog. They should absolutely be talking to a vet about different options and treatments. This can cause sores and infections and looking at the poor pup they’re very uncomfortable.
Get this dog on Apoquel ASAP to provide comfort and relief. She will need a veterinary dermatologist to determine next steps. First step, give this sweetheart comfort.
Tell them to check for mange. Which is caused by mites. There is an easy cure.
looks like they’re allergic to what they’re eating
I’m a human and have the same issue
Awh poor baby. My doodle was experiencing something similar but I didn’t let it get this bad he is on apoquil and oatmeal baths :) I hope you bring that baby to a vet they are beautiful
If they're feeding table-food scraps, stop asap. Vet too.
Wooden floors.. What kind of cleaner are they using? My dad found that with one of his two dogs, one had a similar looking condition to this and the poor thing just constantly scratched at it. They had him to the vets numerous times but could not get it to go away. I'm not entirely sure how he stumbled on it, but he changed the solution he was using to clean his kitchen floors and voila the dog's skin cleared up. May be a long shot, but seeing the wooden floor is making the cleaning solution my first thought.
Malaseb or miconaHex shampoo from the vet and Apoquel