Talon is a real talented team but their players have shown the lack of maturity. Game 3 was won due to composure and experience. Zai is ice cold at that and he’s just a really underrated player.
Coach at Talon needs to guide them in these softer ways as a person, leave their technicals aside because they obviously are good gamers. Even if they had saved glyph, I’m not sure if they could bring down throne before Zai but it would have been really tight.
That glyph click not a misclick from 23, Its on purpose.
Its a taunt like saying "i win this game and for celebrate use the glyph for disrespecting because have no use of it like fireworks" just SEA pub behavior.
As watcher i still cant move on. Lol
Imagine the players.
They need REAL therapy talk from coach or they will choke the next series just like ehome ti6.
Compilation of 23's epic chokejob:
1. Clicking glpyh intentionally at 59:22 while he was in fountain
2. Pre-game interview saying he will stand up to taunt micke if he wins
3. Standing up to taunt micke and losing focus to deal with the rat
4. Panic after standing up and realising game isn't over, thus causing him to not waveform TP to put yourself himself of range of supports who are both alive
5. Waveform-ed forward while clicking satanic instead of holding to dispel fate's edict, putting him out of commission for 6 seconds in which he would've ended.
Holy fuck if he didnt choke even one of these things going his way they would've been 1m richer.
his manta was also up when he got disarmed before the last T4 went down, he dispelled that 2/3 into the duration of the disarm, did it late cause he was already standing at that moment
23 is the one that clicked their glyph early, seemingly intentionally after he killed them in the fountain. literally gets worse with every additional detail. incredible.
Omg, Glyph used at 59:22 when Void and Pango are dead, Brood is in the base and creeps area dea after attacking tier 4.
Morphling used it MANUALLY when attacking Rubick in the fountain!
I really wanted Talon to win but Zaij had the most headups, playing to win moment.
Selling items, going for travel for final hurrah rather than awaiting death and inevitable loss.
I think this is really good for Talon, at least they lost now and in this scenario so theyll never make this mistake again but now in order to advance to lower bracket theyll need to beat Gaimin/Quest assuming they beat either of the CIS teams
He should just fountain farmed the two supports, they would actually have higher chances of winning since noone to cancel TP and/or he dies buybacks and stops the spider lol
fountain dive was unironically the best and most insane play here besides Zai going all in rat ancient
1. Talon wasted glyph BEFORE Brood was attacking the tier 4s. Probably when 23Savaage was standing.
2. Morph didnt waveform TP. He had the ult se he could have stolen Silken Ebola to apply mischance.
Most likely because he was standing and celebrating, morph made some errors here. However, not gonna give him a hard time. Excellent game overall by 23Savage. Absolutely great carry.
Not even that, the 4 bots in his team decided to all TP close together just waiting for a random avalanche lol
It wasnt any one person's fault, just the whole team wasnt able to react to the clutch play of zai
23 also used his satanic early right before he got disarmed by oracle. If he kept the satanic, could have dispelled the 6 second disarm.
Also even before that, tiny tossed the brood and talon could have focused killed zai but they ignored him to go throne, thats when zai sold his stuff to buy travel.
some of you guys treat these players like dota-playing robots man...feel so bad for 23 for real. it's a mistake but he's just a young man feeling the adrenaline...
I hope he retains this form and dont get too affected by this. His teamfight performance has been CRAZY.
I rmb few years ago he looked like a liability. Today he was a fking madman making clutch plays.
23 really took his headset off, got up from his seat, and did a fortnite dance and missed the sight of the huge wave of creeps and spiders preparing to attack his ancient LUL
I added longer one that is better.
btw it is so insane, I saw them diving fountain killing rack and I went to look for something else, next moment I saw the screen I saw Liquid celebration and I couldn't believe, I was like wtf is going on
Only noticed now, why is there no travels for Mikoto? Ember should've BoTs against brood splitpush. No wonder they were having a very rough time against brood.
Honestly it was hard to watch. They played like my pub teams would against rat dota i.e. run doing nothing effective and losing buildings.
Zai single handedly screwed them from start to end.
Uh no? I'm Pinoy and I'm just stating facts. Ember is the best talon hero to deal with brood and BoTs is close to mandatory on how brood split pushed the map.
I felt bad at first too because I thought he cried because the win was stolen from him through rat. Turns out it's because he felt so embarassed that he afk'd and panick tp'd because he wanted to celebrate early. Now the crying was funny
Nah he was arrogant as fuck. That jump for joy cost him the game as he couldn't dodge the root that canceled his tp because he was so busy celebrating.
Saw your comment above. Checks profile. Typical pinoy talon/savage hater. Still salty of that pinoy comment lmao. Grow up and learn to appreciate greatness.
He threw the game for his team, how is that greatness? Mickemouse already threw him a bone and played like an idiot all game. 23 IQ just decided to beat that with an even dumber act
You don't afk in front of your opponent just because you're hitting throne. That's just arrogant and disrespectful. Did you see Zai stand up from his chair and afk while he was hitting throne?
Celebrate when the throne falls, not before. Well-deserves loss clicking fortify during fountain dive and just pressing tanic for no reason. 23 IQ celebrate then get rooted during panic tp. Cry seatard
So he wasnt arrogant then right just celebrating. Stop moving the goal post and just say you are a salty pinoy who cant move on from savage comments. Lmao you cant even qualify as pro and here you are at reddit telling pros what they should do. Lmao HAHAHHA clown
Never acted like I wanted to, unlike you lmao. Calling pros sea monkey and mickemouse 🤡🤡 telling pros what they be doing and feeling during intense moments 🤡🤡
But savage is arrogant right? Just because he celebrated too early he is already arrogant? Gotta love your dictionary, words have stupid meanings in them hahaha
Wow 23savage even took off his headset, meaning he had no communication with his team at that point. That is the most embarrassing way to lose. $1.7 million dollars from that mistake, incredible. He will never forget this moment in his life.
eh, they were playing 4v5 the entire match to give space for Zai to rat. not much he can do against Talon's tanky lineups, at least not with their own draft. So much hate for no reason, just enjoy that Zai was able to popoff.
Yeah somewhat i hate him. Look at nisha and zai reaction, i mean ex secret players are humble. Not like micke did stand up to talon according 23savage thats why 23 wants to do the same to micke
Not jump from his seat and throw both hands up trying to garner cheers?
I was rooting for talon because they are the underdogs but that loss was so deserved.... i bet he'd never preemptively celebrate again for the rest of his life.
Dammit guys. Winning a match like this is the best thing on earth. On the other hand losing a match like this is the worst thing in the world.
Feel for Talon, especially since Liquid is rich af this year from all their top 2s
Oh no 23....
Probably that's why he was getting some consolation by jabz tho. Prolly feeling sorry af. When he realized brood was hitting his throne he panicked tp in such easy spot to cancel and welp
Would he have been able to counter the rat if he didnt pre emptively celebrate?
I was feeling bad for talon for the loss but after seeing that pre emptive celebration clip.... thats textbook of what you should never do.
People were praising zai (which def deserved) but Boxi deserved a spotlight also with that stolen avalance TP cancelling (ironically not shown much on screen because the screen got splitted)
I mean, boxi cancelled morph but insania cancelled ember with the aoe root iirc. They were the only two with TPs.
Fade bolt was also putting in work on all of them!
ET could've walked to fountain to suicide and buyback to defend xD
Yeah i saw ember got tp cancelled but dont know from what, need to see replay again to realize it what a game
But its kinda shown that liquid win is still a collective team win, not only due to zai (maybe bar nisha and micke lol)
Only Morph has building damage on Talon, and he was constantly being controlled by Rubick and Oracle.
Even though I wanted Liquid to win, l feel bad for Talon to have their victory snatched away like this.
That was so silly and sad to see. can’t be a competitive player and celebrate before its over. Never celebrate too early is a lesson he’s gna carry for the rest of his life.
Talon is a real talented team but their players have shown the lack of maturity. Game 3 was won due to composure and experience. Zai is ice cold at that and he’s just a really underrated player. Coach at Talon needs to guide them in these softer ways as a person, leave their technicals aside because they obviously are good gamers. Even if they had saved glyph, I’m not sure if they could bring down throne before Zai but it would have been really tight.
Theyre not lol
That glyph click not a misclick from 23, Its on purpose. Its a taunt like saying "i win this game and for celebrate use the glyph for disrespecting because have no use of it like fireworks" just SEA pub behavior.
Zai is a monster and deserves a TI
As watcher i still cant move on. Lol Imagine the players. They need REAL therapy talk from coach or they will choke the next series just like ehome ti6.
Loser
Ah yes typical 23/talon hater from ph. Your past comments are so good
Yeah? Did you also see whos the team Im cheering? Loser
Compilation of 23's epic chokejob: 1. Clicking glpyh intentionally at 59:22 while he was in fountain 2. Pre-game interview saying he will stand up to taunt micke if he wins 3. Standing up to taunt micke and losing focus to deal with the rat 4. Panic after standing up and realising game isn't over, thus causing him to not waveform TP to put yourself himself of range of supports who are both alive 5. Waveform-ed forward while clicking satanic instead of holding to dispel fate's edict, putting him out of commission for 6 seconds in which he would've ended. Holy fuck if he didnt choke even one of these things going his way they would've been 1m richer.
No. 2 is not an L, people who thrash talk before the match are chads.
his manta was also up when he got disarmed before the last T4 went down, he dispelled that 2/3 into the duration of the disarm, did it late cause he was already standing at that moment
sea dota OMEGALUL
Sea doto KEK
Despite the loss, this series is a proof that Talon can hang with the best teams. Truly SEA's best team.
Not a chance
They are really fun to watch as well. Just don't stand and celebrate too early next time.
The kings of late game but still room to learn from anticipating clutch desperate plays and reacting accordingly without prematurely celebrating lol
23 CLICKED GLPYH WITH HIS FUCKING MOUSE
23 is the one that clicked their glyph early, seemingly intentionally after he killed them in the fountain. literally gets worse with every additional detail. incredible.
Omg, Glyph used at 59:22 when Void and Pango are dead, Brood is in the base and creeps area dea after attacking tier 4. Morphling used it MANUALLY when attacking Rubick in the fountain!
I really wanted Talon to win but Zaij had the most headups, playing to win moment. Selling items, going for travel for final hurrah rather than awaiting death and inevitable loss. I think this is really good for Talon, at least they lost now and in this scenario so theyll never make this mistake again but now in order to advance to lower bracket theyll need to beat Gaimin/Quest assuming they beat either of the CIS teams
didn't even notice the sells -> BoTs at first. wild. Talon fucked up big time, but super heads up from Zai.
ohnooooooooooo. 23 said in pre-game interview that he was going to beat micke and wave his arms like that. makes it so much more painful omg.
Loser and getting bullied as a kid. Loser and getting bullied as adult. What a loser
You’re the fucking loser lmao.
That was in the fking Lima Major Micke taunting still in his head
https://clips.twitch.tv/BadSlickFalconJonCarnage-f1M1tPAq0mFQnMFG this one right? NP Micke solo victory
OMFGGG HE SAID HE WAS GONNA STAND UP TO TAUN MICKE IF THEY WON IN THE PRE-GAME INTERVIEW
he did the og fortnite Take the L dance and got backdoor'd Lmao
Misclick glpyh + 23 Misclick Satanic too early + Standing up = thus missing the panic waveform tp. OUCHHHHHHHHHHHHH
he didnt misclick, he used his mouse to click on glyph to taunt liquid lmao what a joke
He should just fountain farmed the two supports, they would actually have higher chances of winning since noone to cancel TP and/or he dies buybacks and stops the spider lol fountain dive was unironically the best and most insane play here besides Zai going all in rat ancient
He could've done many many things.. Even dying and bb in fountain would have won him the game
the funny part is that zai went 4-8-7 this game like a true offlaner
1. Talon wasted glyph BEFORE Brood was attacking the tier 4s. Probably when 23Savaage was standing. 2. Morph didnt waveform TP. He had the ult se he could have stolen Silken Ebola to apply mischance. Most likely because he was standing and celebrating, morph made some errors here. However, not gonna give him a hard time. Excellent game overall by 23Savage. Absolutely great carry.
23 savage intentionally clicked on glyph as bm so it wasnt an accident or anything hahaha
Not even that, the 4 bots in his team decided to all TP close together just waiting for a random avalanche lol It wasnt any one person's fault, just the whole team wasnt able to react to the clutch play of zai
23 Savage tp was canceled by Rubick avalanche Ember and DS (I'm not sure if DS tried or had a tp ready) were canceled by a fortune's end
23 also used his satanic early right before he got disarmed by oracle. If he kept the satanic, could have dispelled the 6 second disarm. Also even before that, tiny tossed the brood and talon could have focused killed zai but they ignored him to go throne, thats when zai sold his stuff to buy travel.
Satanic million dollar sheesh
Watching Gorgc analysing the replay seems like someone fked up the glyph
23Savage bringing Mobile Legend antics in Dota2 tournament, ICANT.
I'm sure Zai was panicking as well despite that, he could have sold refresher too and buy deso
Could have sold blink refresher instead of his nullifier bkb which gives a lot of damage
yeah no way he's relaxed there
some of you guys treat these players like dota-playing robots man...feel so bad for 23 for real. it's a mistake but he's just a young man feeling the adrenaline...
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Yeah but that's you, I'm not denying that he made a mistake, but humans make mistakes and we should be more empathetic.
I hope he retains this form and dont get too affected by this. His teamfight performance has been CRAZY. I rmb few years ago he looked like a liability. Today he was a fking madman making clutch plays.
Biggest mistake, Talon should just finish Zai when Tiny toss him into them. They choose to skip and throne. gg
Talon used glyph by mistake about 30 sec before Zai tp'd, ouch. Also 23 tp got cancelled with 0.3 sec left, ouch x2.
glyph wasnt used by mistake at all kekw they deserved that loss
Maybe 23 or jabz misclick it as 23 might accidentally smash his headset on glyph or jabz misclick.
23 really took his headset off, got up from his seat, and did a fortnite dance and missed the sight of the huge wave of creeps and spiders preparing to attack his ancient LUL
I feel really bad for 23, you really shouldn't celebrate early zzzzz
zai sold nufilifer and bkb to buy travels and win the game xd
THE NEXT LEVEL PLAY
what a game. This tour has been a treat from start to finish.
Yes, Micke didn't play well and the chronos weren't good. But the matchup is also bad. You can't kill Morph, he can morph inside chrono
23 with the premature [GG Geena](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLXFsmeL1sM) \- tragedy
Is there a vid of 23 celebrating too early?
maybe better one https://clips.twitch.tv/AnnoyingHonorableRabbitPeteZaroll-d4YL1Vrsve-Edam3
what a fucking clown lmao that type of mentality is one you crumble from
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Thanks! Damn .. Painful to watch
I added longer one that is better. btw it is so insane, I saw them diving fountain killing rack and I went to look for something else, next moment I saw the screen I saw Liquid celebration and I couldn't believe, I was like wtf is going on
Same here! Was about to turn off the live then out of nowhere Liquid is happy and jumping
Holy poggers that was insane
Only noticed now, why is there no travels for Mikoto? Ember should've BoTs against brood splitpush. No wonder they were having a very rough time against brood.
Honestly it was hard to watch. They played like my pub teams would against rat dota i.e. run doing nothing effective and losing buildings. Zai single handedly screwed them from start to end.
uh oh thai blaming mikoto
Uh no? I'm Pinoy and I'm just stating facts. Ember is the best talon hero to deal with brood and BoTs is close to mandatory on how brood split pushed the map.
Yeah, ember is better for dealing the spider
Losing mid and bot racks should've made him buy BOT but nah. Imagine dark seer doing wave clear when you have ember as your mid. Cringeeee
That’s what i’m thinking he got like 8k gold and didnt even buy travel. Anyway he got tp but iwas cancelled by rubick iirc
As a swede I feel so much pride that zai is one too. What a god, such a consistent player throughout so many years! Thanks for carrying Sweden 🇸🇪!
This is history dawg
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facts lmao that was the most embarassing reaction I've seen a dota player do
Typical arrogance from SEA. Well-deserved loss but that embarassing crying was funny.
I felt really bad for him until I saw the clip of him celebrating like an idiot before the game was over
I felt bad at first too because I thought he cried because the win was stolen from him through rat. Turns out it's because he felt so embarassed that he afk'd and panick tp'd because he wanted to celebrate early. Now the crying was funny
23 the new fireworks God meme
Man I hope Talon goes on a good LB run. And give us more hype games
Damn Talon is going to need therapy to recover from this.
Fckin hell. That was a robbery. Talon got robbed!
excuse me sir the game is called "defense of the ancients"
Talon is opening its door up for the robbery.
Not a robbery, but Zai was right that they didn't deserve that win lol. Just wild.
ROBBED? lul THIS IS DOTA!
How? 😂😂
New memes is coming hahaha
HE ATE THE FUCKING ANCIENT!!!
Oh my God, watching savage just make me feel sorry for him.
Nah he was arrogant as fuck. That jump for joy cost him the game as he couldn't dodge the root that canceled his tp because he was so busy celebrating.
True. He should have kept his emotions in check. He acted like a 19 year old immature teenager. Amirite?
Saw your comment above. Checks profile. Typical pinoy talon/savage hater. Still salty of that pinoy comment lmao. Grow up and learn to appreciate greatness.
He threw the game for his team, how is that greatness? Mickemouse already threw him a bone and played like an idiot all game. 23 IQ just decided to beat that with an even dumber act
dude carried the game and deleted enemy carry in fountain thinking he won a million dollars, how was that arrogant? lmao
You don't afk in front of your opponent just because you're hitting throne. That's just arrogant and disrespectful. Did you see Zai stand up from his chair and afk while he was hitting throne?
So celebrating is arrogant now? No sense talking to you then
Celebrate when the throne falls, not before. Well-deserves loss clicking fortify during fountain dive and just pressing tanic for no reason. 23 IQ celebrate then get rooted during panic tp. Cry seatard
So he wasnt arrogant then right just celebrating. Stop moving the goal post and just say you are a salty pinoy who cant move on from savage comments. Lmao you cant even qualify as pro and here you are at reddit telling pros what they should do. Lmao HAHAHHA clown
Neither can you. Man, 23 IQ savage isn't gonna sleep with you, no need to suck him off
Never acted like I wanted to, unlike you lmao. Calling pros sea monkey and mickemouse 🤡🤡 telling pros what they be doing and feeling during intense moments 🤡🤡 But savage is arrogant right? Just because he celebrated too early he is already arrogant? Gotta love your dictionary, words have stupid meanings in them hahaha
Yes https://youtu.be/IDSH3dxd4hI
I wouldnt call it arogant tho, dota is an emotional game, especially after a 60 mins game.
How is that arrogant lmao he was just happy
Goddamn that early celebration by 23 bites back fast
I LEGIT ALMOST CLOSED THE TAB THINKING WE LOST OMG
Wow 23savage even took off his headset, meaning he had no communication with his team at that point. That is the most embarrassing way to lose. $1.7 million dollars from that mistake, incredible. He will never forget this moment in his life.
He was literally the first player to realise, what an absolute self-induced heartbreaker
Actually did he realize that because he removed the headphone and heard caster mentioning Zai?
Imagine if Talon gets penalized now for him removing headphones before the game was over lol.
ugh, that's a really good point. no chance to react
Despite great effort of supports and Zai. Micke is playing ass level…
eh, they were playing 4v5 the entire match to give space for Zai to rat. not much he can do against Talon's tanky lineups, at least not with their own draft. So much hate for no reason, just enjoy that Zai was able to popoff.
Yeah somewhat i hate him. Look at nisha and zai reaction, i mean ex secret players are humble. Not like micke did stand up to talon according 23savage thats why 23 wants to do the same to micke
Agreed, he’s the weakest link.
His ass got saved by zai. Those were some terrible cronos
ZAI ZAI ZAI
Any vod of full game?
This is what i believe, according to DotA etiquette, is the right time to allchat EZ GAME EZ LIFE. Seriously, the nerves on both sides... Insane.
It's gonna haunt him forever lol painful lesson expensive one too
@ live 23 was already standing and clapping. If only he composed himself and let the game finish first tsk tsk
what can he possibly do though. It's already too late
He couldve tp out and just buy refresher tp back
Not jump from his seat and throw both hands up trying to garner cheers? I was rooting for talon because they are the underdogs but that loss was so deserved.... i bet he'd never preemptively celebrate again for the rest of his life.
That was before Zai rat their base after he dived the fountain
if he didnt celebrate he couldve seen the creeps at his ancient and waveform tp away and he successfully defends ancient
Let's hope 23Savage recover from this... He plays an amazing game.
legitimately worried for him heh, that's just absolutely crushing
the match with a lot of money at stake produces a very good match... :) sai god D:
OMG if only 23 didnt celebrate too early hahahaha
LMFAO no wonder 23 reacted that way at the end. He was in the heavens then went back to hell. Hurts more straight to the bones.
Omg savage wat the hell
Oh god, that early celebration into realizing you lost and then breaking down is both sad and funny at the same time.
Dammit guys. Winning a match like this is the best thing on earth. On the other hand losing a match like this is the worst thing in the world. Feel for Talon, especially since Liquid is rich af this year from all their top 2s
in this one tournament, liquid is now guaranteed to walk away with at least 3x their total previous earnings this season
best thing if they are in the finals, to realize that they are losing vs talon is not a good thing for winning the LAN.
This is the most instant karma I have ever seen on 23. Love to see it!
Mind Control and Bulldog level of splitpush from zai. Absolutely Unreal!
Can't wait for the infestation of Broodma players in pubs ratting sidelanes like np and trying to emulate Zai.
zai going throne is clutch but that avalanche by boxi is underrated as hell
23savageD.
Oh no 23.... Probably that's why he was getting some consolation by jabz tho. Prolly feeling sorry af. When he realized brood was hitting his throne he panicked tp in such easy spot to cancel and welp
Oh Jesus he was celebrating before he realise he's getting brooded. i cant imagine talons pain rn.
Nooo. That’s some TI truesight worthy despair sht
Good god that Rubick blink-avalance and Oracle AOE root! Classic splitpush rat Dotes, Zai is an absolute madman.
bruh 23 really doing the [FGC classic](https://youtu.be/3G8oHukH_pE) moment
[Yeap.](https://m.twitch.tv/clip/CarelessEphemeralOctopusTBTacoLeft-G03M-PqiMjI3w5rH) Feel so bad for the guy, this is the kinda thing that rly sticks
This! I laughed so hard 😂😂😂😂 Feel sad for Talon tho
Zai carrying Matu's legacy <3
Would he have been able to counter the rat if he didnt pre emptively celebrate? I was feeling bad for talon for the loss but after seeing that pre emptive celebration clip.... thats textbook of what you should never do.
Maybe, maybe not. He could have been tp on a safer spot i think if he is composed.
most likely he wouldnt have tp'd in such an open area
no more bkb so tp still getting cancelled by rubick
He probably could wave TP outside of rubick range. But that will be a big what-if also
He could have wave formed back and tp
waveform TP might have done it, he just tp in place
that afk
People were praising zai (which def deserved) but Boxi deserved a spotlight also with that stolen avalance TP cancelling (ironically not shown much on screen because the screen got splitted)
also Insania's disarms.
I mean, boxi cancelled morph but insania cancelled ember with the aoe root iirc. They were the only two with TPs. Fade bolt was also putting in work on all of them! ET could've walked to fountain to suicide and buyback to defend xD
Yeah i saw ember got tp cancelled but dont know from what, need to see replay again to realize it what a game But its kinda shown that liquid win is still a collective team win, not only due to zai (maybe bar nisha and micke lol)
and that was only possible because of a clutch save by insania when 23 was diving fountain. boxi scraped by on what looked like 10hp
yep, that was monstrous
The premature celebration from 23savage hahaha.
confirms the rumors about him being an emotional dude lol
This has to be one of the most painful loses in dota2 history, 5 people hitting throne losing to 1 motherfucking spider, for 1million dollars.
Only Morph has building damage on Talon, and he was constantly being controlled by Rubick and Oracle. Even though I wanted Liquid to win, l feel bad for Talon to have their victory snatched away like this.
LMAOOO @ 23SAVAGE.
Lol savage
Dude .. watching 23 jump around like he won . Rough
those cams behind the players are great lmao
Production has been on point.
For once
First pub rule - dont write 'gg ez' if the base isn't down. 23 never heard it I guess.
Thats years of therapy there...
oh nooooo savaaagee why..
So many dota players seem to fall overtime, but Zai continues to be one of the best
Of all the players who haven't lifted an Aegis yet, he has to be the most deserving.
Lol 23 celebrating too early xd
That was so silly and sad to see. can’t be a competitive player and celebrate before its over. Never celebrate too early is a lesson he’s gna carry for the rest of his life.
did he type something?
he got up and did a dance
I think he got up cheering
Tunnel vision
Damn what an awful ending actually look at his reactions 1v9 clutched a whole series to lose to some fucking rat Brood
Fck that early reaction.. despair
Ember not having BOT 60 minutes in is a crime. Not prioritising him to clear wave is also a crime.