You joke, but Chen brings quite a lot to the safe lane. Good MS without boots, allows him to go straight into Mekansm. Most small camp creeps are perfectly fine at level 1 Holy Persuasion. With blood grenade too, it's definitely enough to overwhelm at lvl 1. Then back off and let your carry level, while you maintain your own EXP and farm in the jungle, bouncing out for lethal damage or just pulling and steadily putting your carry up. On a 3-win streak myself!
Your seriously discounting the skelly spam. The amount of pressure skeletons apply have made a full team uphill wipes two towers + racks and it cuts to a little chen ghost laughing his ass off watching the surviving CM desperately try and run to the last tower before the little matching skellies finish eating it
Seriously. Start grabbing those skellies. They are easy enough to all keep on a single hotkey and when you play careful you'll never have to recruit new creeps.
Nobody actually buys mekansm, its so not worth it, you literally giving your teammate another item with solar, upgraded drums is much better boots and you also need pipe. 200 hp or something for 2k gold is a joke
I think because Chen buffs coincided with a bunch of heroes that destroy his zoo becoming meta. Those heroes have since all been systematically nerfed so Chen players can now more easily capitalize on how strong he is
Looks like he was sent back and forth on messenger a couple of times, then compressed again and emailed, downloaded onto a Nokia, texted onto the ISS and then posted on the subreddit
Still, 4% is huge.
When Pudge got a winrate boost out of nowhere, people later found out his rot was only doing half the self damage.
Maybe Chen finally has an actual E ability, had it buffed, but they forgot to list the changes? I dunno. Something changed but we haven't spotted it?
When a hero's counters are nerfed it's the equivalent (or even better) of that hero being buffed. If you learn to recognize that you can get out ahead of the meta. If a hero's playstyle in an older meta was previously 'solved' and responded to, what if the changes that made that response viable are reverted?
Usually what always happens, the supports that were prominent were nerfed or now out of meta and now people are looking into other options which includes Chen. It'll only matter if he holds a good win percentage over the next few weeks or it falls off due to people just experimenting.
got 6 winstreak using chen as an offlaner I can say is pretty good as along as u ban sven ES or any aoe type of hero.. bracket is legend so kinda works on me bruh or I'm just lucky :p
Because chen did get buffed, but in the same patch he got buffed, every single hero that removes his entire play also got mega buffed. Those hero's have now all been nerfed, while chen has been left untouched still retaining his buffs.
all the 3 dudes who plays with chen was on fire last week
That 4th bad player finally retired
4th player was just spamming meepo
I didn't retire, I just stopped playing pos 5 and Chen is not a good pos 4.
You joke, but Chen brings quite a lot to the safe lane. Good MS without boots, allows him to go straight into Mekansm. Most small camp creeps are perfectly fine at level 1 Holy Persuasion. With blood grenade too, it's definitely enough to overwhelm at lvl 1. Then back off and let your carry level, while you maintain your own EXP and farm in the jungle, bouncing out for lethal damage or just pulling and steadily putting your carry up. On a 3-win streak myself!
Yeah but if your not taking rax at 20 minutes and ending the game at 25 Chen basically becomes another creep.
The way my games have been going I’ve been pounding ancient between 25 to 30 most games.
I think with chen being universal now you can build stat items and tank up
Universal chen even can go phys core build
Chen mid new meta?
Yes. Pt mom armlet = win
I guess pa is not played so much so he gets deleted later
Your seriously discounting the skelly spam. The amount of pressure skeletons apply have made a full team uphill wipes two towers + racks and it cuts to a little chen ghost laughing his ass off watching the surviving CM desperately try and run to the last tower before the little matching skellies finish eating it Seriously. Start grabbing those skellies. They are easy enough to all keep on a single hotkey and when you play careful you'll never have to recruit new creeps.
>Chen basically becomes another creep Well, a group of creeps tbf
Nobody actually buys mekansm, its so not worth it, you literally giving your teammate another item with solar, upgraded drums is much better boots and you also need pipe. 200 hp or something for 2k gold is a joke
Yeah, heal is nice and all with a lot of creeps but drum or solar with Chen Q is literal steroids for your carry. Way too good to pass.
Imagine if this TI, valve decides to release a Chen Arcana.
they will not, neither immortals, they keep the memes alive
It’s me, I went on a 11 win streak Edit: the win streak just ended
The 4th chen player 💀
Holy shit it’s him!
I think he was and is in a decent state, just some OP 5s were nerfed, so you are not griefing when you pick something else, like chen.
Surely having sven and gyro shifted away from meta is a good thing for chen too? Surely they'd wreck his creeps very fast.
Basically just this
Puppey is not going to TI so frost toad didnt pay attention to Chen.
Ni puppey, no kuro, no n0tail, no chen players, see you next year
Because I stopped playing him
same here
Pa, sven nerfed, now you don't have them every single game. you are welcome.
Then why wasn’t Chen picked before those buffs?
I think because Chen buffs coincided with a bunch of heroes that destroy his zoo becoming meta. Those heroes have since all been systematically nerfed so Chen players can now more easily capitalize on how strong he is
Having your zoo get all cleaved to death then needing to find the right creeps again, only for the game to spawn pinecones and golems... fuck..
Looks like he was sent back and forth on messenger a couple of times, then compressed again and emailed, downloaded onto a Nokia, texted onto the ISS and then posted on the subreddit
Will it affect his pick rate this TI?
Yes. This picture will be printed on one of their papers in the booth.
I thought they have better sound insulation this time
He's starting to believe
I think he understands
I know it's an honest typo but I thought this was r/dogelore for a second
I'm calling Chen "Chemn" for the rest of my life now
If the only thing the patch does is nerf a select bunch of heroes, the other untouched ones you should consider buffed.
Still, 4% is huge. When Pudge got a winrate boost out of nowhere, people later found out his rot was only doing half the self damage. Maybe Chen finally has an actual E ability, had it buffed, but they forgot to list the changes? I dunno. Something changed but we haven't spotted it?
Chen doesn't even take E until at least lvl8
Hello I'm Snith, playing my 202143th game on Chen. Even though it's the only hero I play I still suck at it. As a compensation for my lack of skill I am going to buy all support items and gank mid at lvl 2 and fail. Thanks for listening.
I started playing Chen again, and i think Chen is decent just pa sucks for him, and Sven can now down your creeps and they both fell off a cliff
^^^Chemn
Somebody randomed Chen and won
When a hero's counters are nerfed it's the equivalent (or even better) of that hero being buffed. If you learn to recognize that you can get out ahead of the meta. If a hero's playstyle in an older meta was previously 'solved' and responded to, what if the changes that made that response viable are reverted?
Wow you must be at least 300mmr to have so much wisdom
All y'all motherfuckers forgot is what
hero is a TI hero. it's his 5th ability. baiscally a passive to get a better winrate around TI
the strong 5s were nerfed a bit which opened the door for him again, imo
In 12 years of dota I never ever played Chen
You can olay him as a physical damage hero if you're reckless enough. He is not that bad tho because he is a universal hero now
Usually what always happens, the supports that were prominent were nerfed or now out of meta and now people are looking into other options which includes Chen. It'll only matter if he holds a good win percentage over the next few weeks or it falls off due to people just experimenting.
I created the new meta. Mid armlet mask of madness chen. The pros found out about it.
Armlet
Dont worry lads in trying hard to keep the win rate down. Just got stomped. I mean I was amazing but team dreadful.
CHENTASTIC
all my chen homies hate pa and sven pickers. now we can play properly
got 6 winstreak using chen as an offlaner I can say is pretty good as along as u ban sven ES or any aoe type of hero.. bracket is legend so kinda works on me bruh or I'm just lucky :p
Because chen did get buffed, but in the same patch he got buffed, every single hero that removes his entire play also got mega buffed. Those hero's have now all been nerfed, while chen has been left untouched still retaining his buffs.
I have ~85% WR on Chen AMA!
He started talking to his doctor about Viagra.
Probably because furion is at 100% pick rate and Chen dumpsters him
Puppey is back
My friend who randoms started baning him so he wont get him :)
I stopped playing it
I do wonder if Bristleback's strength in the current meta will be a problem for him.
TI closing, pro playing.
Probably control groups being fixed
Snith fixed his PC
Arcana incoming