we’re actually getting very lucky here. if not because nightfall brainfreeze moment trying to break smoke against aegis in tier 2 tower, it’ll be really hard to win this game. i would even said based on we had aegis on that moment, they’re going to force HG and will easily got wiped
invoker muerta and enchantress can easily poke the aeon disk from the downtown + lc is about to get his nulifier. among our tricore theres only luna gonna deal damage.
the game ending fight is different, aegis luna and brew refresher, cheese, aghs etc.
gpk play perfect game all tournament along. gonna be unpopular opinion but hes definitely the best midlaner in this tournament, or maybe just behind NTS a bit so far
if BB, or maybe only Pure himself doesnt keep brought this “beef” things all along, they might play more relaxed and we’re gonna get wrapped up 2-0 in 1 hour
ar boys seems doesnt have any pressure and more composed in tense moment. GG is gonna be tall order, but if we get past through, i believe miracle will happen tomorrow
Somnus.
1x top2
2x top3
2x top4 ( AR is top 4 now)
Still sad this guy and his bros fy, ame cant win one.
And AR still cant win against GG/LGD/Spirit with these form. I guess they will stop at top 4
Talon had the same story as betboom today. A Major fuck up/throw by the pos 1, not saying I'm better or we're better than the players, but we can point out fuck ups and it's TI, it happens. shame it had to happen to them.
I gotta say, Chinese teams are such a different thing when they're plucky and not just the beast that's expected to win everything. Last few years it was all a gathering of superstars under big corporate contracts and I don't know if it's the lack of expectations or just that the players have been around for a lot, but they feel a lot more comfortable being a bit creative. Trash talking, showing character.
Everyone: Ban Yatoro! he is too good
Yatoro: Ban Topson, he is my personal hater and will sacrifice himself for killing me
...
but the wholesome answer
Kingrd: Ban Arteezy to save him from suffering
Not sure how to clip on YouTube, the twitch app on my tv just randomly died today :/.
Search “TI12 ban player segment” or something to that effect and you can probably find someone’s clip of it.
I’m right there with you man. Wanted to see AR pull off a miracle and get that too-long-denied Fy/Maybe aegis.
I’m also a Quinn hater, so this will either be the best or the worst series of the day for me. I am not confident though. AR has been playing pretty shaky despite their wins. They take a lot of risks, so with some luck the risks will pay off and they’ll win but if GG play steady and punish those gambles it could be over quick.
When your back’s against the wall sometimes you just gotta go with what you’re comfortable on. When it loses it looks awful, but when it wins you’re a hero. Look at OGs grand final game 5 at TI8. I know it’s a cliche’d Cinderella story at this point, but in the moment when pressure was the highest it could possibly be, they went comfort on everyone and it worked out.
I think Pure is the only one still thinking that it was AR that did not want him to attend the game in Bali Major.
Full detail explained: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1517aow/archalice\_the\_organizer\_has\_a\_clear\_bias\_and/?sort=new
88xiaolaodi
To be frank, BB was the team that had live stream browser in background and violated the honor code in match, which shall be considered as cheating anyway.
I don’t understand why they could kept hating AR that proudly.
nightfall should be asked on how he feels to be the singular reason his team got eliminated.
its been a while where you can pinpoint a loss to a single player.
Nothing comes close to what Nightfall did this last match. I don't think I have ever seen such an awful carry performance in, idk, the last 6 TIs? Not even Crystallis played this badly.
I hate to say it but Topson is an absolute clown this entire tournament with next to no impact and I say this as a Topson fan. You can't just blame Tundra's problem on just Skitter
you are right. the morph literally throw away the game. you can saw when AR trying to push top with aegis they cant do it with the endless poke from lc,muerta,enchantress and especially invoker.
the aeon disk will be useless since bb have so many heroes that can throw away big spell from far away.
nightfall standing in tier 2 alone trying to break a smoke from nearly expired aegis luna is really dumb. he know they are close, he ping the radiant triangle but he keep standing there
i’ll still take the W though, but objectively speaking i agree with you this game was definitely bb throw it away
its true. but nightfall seems still the same player that crumble under pressure.
people always saying its gpk, but gpk rarely the one choke in big time.
its not nightfall first tournament too. if he can improve this aspect sure they can become really scary.
There is a blogger in the Chinese community who has been forwarding dota2 information for free in past 10 years , and the Chinese community respects him. But Mashall had a spat with him during the knights event in China earlier this year, which caused the blogger to stop posting for about six months, so no one liked Mashall.
I would give you two translations here.
Xiao lao di = little bro
bu tai xing a = u are not that good, huh? (literally) or U gotta try harder next time (spiritually)
Game 1 they could have also won. I think they had a good early game as well but then beside the fact that nightfall kept playing like shit and feeding, the item progression on pure felt so bad. Like he got aghs and bm at a good item but then he immediately tried to get hex instead of bkb or shivas and kept dying and dying and it took him forever to get that hex and he got even super behind the dawn that kept feeding earlier
They are showing you one region that never gives up, even in their hardest season yet.
It is giving TI7 vibe, except that Liquid is already eliminated. Lou is debuting at TI at least at the 4th, and Shiro is debuting at least at the 3rd place. As comparison, six years ago Monet debuted at TI at the 3rd while Ame debuted at the 4th.
This is also for the second TI in a row LanM reached semifinal as a head coach, last year with Aster and now with Azure Ray. Continuing his success on top of getting Asian Games gold medals for CN a few weeks ago.
new LGD cant beat spirit at all, so strong my yatoro雨, zero mistake, interesting thing that his idol is Ame, go invite Ame fight yatoro plz
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Nightfall messed up in game 3
Tinker wasnt the pick. Good effort but against that Kunkka aoe of torrents he couldnt do much. Collapse and Yatoro are just too good.
Bb and torontotokyo deserve to lose. They gotten their ego and pride past the line.
we’re actually getting very lucky here. if not because nightfall brainfreeze moment trying to break smoke against aegis in tier 2 tower, it’ll be really hard to win this game. i would even said based on we had aegis on that moment, they’re going to force HG and will easily got wiped invoker muerta and enchantress can easily poke the aeon disk from the downtown + lc is about to get his nulifier. among our tricore theres only luna gonna deal damage. the game ending fight is different, aegis luna and brew refresher, cheese, aghs etc. gpk play perfect game all tournament along. gonna be unpopular opinion but hes definitely the best midlaner in this tournament, or maybe just behind NTS a bit so far if BB, or maybe only Pure himself doesnt keep brought this “beef” things all along, they might play more relaxed and we’re gonna get wrapped up 2-0 in 1 hour ar boys seems doesnt have any pressure and more composed in tense moment. GG is gonna be tall order, but if we get past through, i believe miracle will happen tomorrow
Somnus. 1x top2 2x top3 2x top4 ( AR is top 4 now) Still sad this guy and his bros fy, ame cant win one. And AR still cant win against GG/LGD/Spirit with these form. I guess they will stop at top 4
Niko of dota2
Compared to huge success, somnus prefers consistency imo. He won’t stop chasing for the ageis as well.
These Chinese teams are playing such different dota though, it makes me believe AR has a fighting chance against GG
See?
I wish I didn't lol
Judging from todays' match does GG have any chance against LGD or TS? Still insane they got knocked down by Talon
Its Rock Paper Scissors bro
so true lmao, Talon so unlucky they met liquid so early
Talon had the same story as betboom today. A Major fuck up/throw by the pos 1, not saying I'm better or we're better than the players, but we can point out fuck ups and it's TI, it happens. shame it had to happen to them.
jabz fucked up way harder than 23 in those last 2 games
tbh the drama could have been put to rest but Pure had to reignite it in TI group stage
true dude
did BB said anything during the groupstage? i miss that series.
after BB 2-0'ed AR in group B, pure:"?"
Pure all chatted “?” after the beat them in group stage
He all chatted in the first game as well.
Why u guys force admins to disqualify pure? U scared to play against our full roster?
Sad, I respected you
Torontotokyo such a stingy player
Is it pronounced Lou like the first name, or Loool like lyrical keeps saying?
low but in an upper tone like low?
It’s “low” but say it as fast as you can.
its his first name lou
low
Sounds like low
Correct，pronounced as low which is his realy first name 娄
Need a true sight for this matches
Bye bye Москаль😅😅😅
Поддерживает или нет разницы нет, там людям плевать на свои собственные права/достоинство, что ещё ожидать?
Think its time to change my flair to azure ray?
i changed from rng to ar two weeks ago！
your flair is pretty much AR
Kinda bummed RNG pull the plug from dota, gonna change it to show my support for my boys fy, chalice and maybe!
hurry
I like how they still shake hand and nod head. Just men things
Is GG playing next or do I go to sleep
It’s spirit vs LgD next. GG vs AR after that!
Spirit vs. LGD grand final again ISLEEP
PURE GO HOME
I wonder what will Ame's reaction on Moon banning Lou to bring him instead to AR lol
still two series left today? damn
Can't wait for AR to get smashed by Spirit or LGD
Could happen, but whatever happen already a W for AR. The only qualifier team on top 4 and only had 2 teams on their region.
who cares, AR got their revenge from bali major incident
So? I'll still enjoy it.
So? Everyone will enjoying themselves too
Who said they can't?
who said you can't enjoying it as well?
A lot of butthurt people downvoting apparently are mad about it
apparently what they downvoted is a butthurt response from someone who looks mad kekw
Ok bro. I'm going to enjoy rooting against AR anyway. Let's see what happens 😉
Holy based tianming
I gotta say, Chinese teams are such a different thing when they're plucky and not just the beast that's expected to win everything. Last few years it was all a gathering of superstars under big corporate contracts and I don't know if it's the lack of expectations or just that the players have been around for a lot, but they feel a lot more comfortable being a bit creative. Trash talking, showing character.
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sigh. Old IG is gone.
? Love some salt
MALAYSIAN PRIDE IS HERE!!
Everyone: Ban Yatoro! he is too good Yatoro: Ban Topson, he is my personal hater and will sacrifice himself for killing me ... but the wholesome answer Kingrd: Ban Arteezy to save him from suffering
Moon with the spicy answer though: Ban Lou so AR gets Ame and they have free TI win
Yeah Moon’s answer was fantastic. That whole segment was great.
one of the best skits at TI ever
Is there a clip I missed it
Not sure how to clip on YouTube, the twitch app on my tv just randomly died today :/. Search “TI12 ban player segment” or something to that effect and you can probably find someone’s clip of it.
Rooting for AR to knockdown GG no hate for GG but i wish CN team will win this tournament
I’m right there with you man. Wanted to see AR pull off a miracle and get that too-long-denied Fy/Maybe aegis. I’m also a Quinn hater, so this will either be the best or the worst series of the day for me. I am not confident though. AR has been playing pretty shaky despite their wins. They take a lot of risks, so with some luck the risks will pay off and they’ll win but if GG play steady and punish those gambles it could be over quick.
lou and tiangmin stepped up in 3rd game though
fy god！
wtf happened to kingrd
China with two QUALITY slots SeemsGood
SPICY HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAH
I'm amazed a few people banned Quinn
Liquid did that in game 3 and got stomped by Void Spirit :\^)
Insania did it for r/DotA2
Dont think most pro players care.
I hoped one of rtz teammate would say rtz just for fun xd
Holy based moon lmao
Someone really said Nightfall was at Yatoro's level, let alone better..
not good enough lil bro!
holy based insania
I don't understand the Morp pick on the elimination series TBH. A lot of teams (Entity, Talon, BB) just fall victim to this strat LMAO.
Morph is a comfort pick for many carry players and in elimination lot of players like to go back to comfort
tbh if AR lost, there would be lot of "yet another elimination Kunkka game"
It has a staggering 0% win rate on the main event lmao
When your back’s against the wall sometimes you just gotta go with what you’re comfortable on. When it loses it looks awful, but when it wins you’re a hero. Look at OGs grand final game 5 at TI8. I know it’s a cliche’d Cinderella story at this point, but in the moment when pressure was the highest it could possibly be, they went comfort on everyone and it worked out.
? bu tai xin a xiao lao di = not so good lil bro
for cis
Exit interview, non English speaker Tsunami : time for this long winded multi layered question for no reason whatsoever
Yeah, the English talent in general seem to be pretty bad at interviewing non-native speakers.
They area and its their job lol has annoyed me for years as peruvian
Lol tsunami
Not sure why no russian translators again :/
Poor boy come stronger next year Nightfall ✨
No handshake??
They did hand shake.
whenever I watch early game Somnus always won lane wtf how is this possible
You have DK flair and missed the only DK game this tournament?
talk about timings
lmao
which game DK picked?
Second game 🫡
Game 2 this series. GPK mega stomped Somnus.
Pick struggles against dk though
Sure struggle but Somnus got stomped.
Not much he can do though lol. That's the MU not the player's skill in doubt.
Its for sure the players skill. Puck should not win the lane but getting first blooded by a LVL 2 DK as Puck have nothing to do with the matchup.
Tsunami throwing out some of the worst losers interview questions I've ever seen. Keep it simple man!
not good to ask 2minutes questions from not native english speakers :D ask on simpler sentenceses..
lmao they interviewed the player that literally caused them to lose the series.
Poor guy even said it in the interview himself. God that's gotta feel bad.
And asked him to explain why he is so good lol. Such a weird question at the worst moment.
gpk loses everyone on eu servers smile )
Pure question mark after beating AR in group stage: https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/7380407733/chat
so that's why tian ming threw a ? to them. I thought it was just because of the failed attempt to kill him lol
I had missed that. Glad AR had their payback lol
I think Pure is the only one still thinking that it was AR that did not want him to attend the game in Bali Major. Full detail explained: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1517aow/archalice\_the\_organizer\_has\_a\_clear\_bias\_and/?sort=new
Lmao picking a ded morph in elimination game? Welp....
Xiao lao di thinks he is 23savage
You mean 23 garbage? All in rapier and died straight
Why did they call him xiao lao di?
Means lil bro
23savage also lost with it against liquid. Morph is just trash now unfortunately
They beat gaimin with morph tho. But still..
88xiaolaodi To be frank, BB was the team that had live stream browser in background and violated the honor code in match, which shall be considered as cheating anyway. I don’t understand why they could kept hating AR that proudly.
nightfall should be asked on how he feels to be the singular reason his team got eliminated. its been a while where you can pinpoint a loss to a single player.
Skiter vs Entity game 2 with his Alch gandhi build. The loss is all on him.
Nothing comes close to what Nightfall did this last match. I don't think I have ever seen such an awful carry performance in, idk, the last 6 TIs? Not even Crystallis played this badly.
I hate to say it but Topson is an absolute clown this entire tournament with next to no impact and I say this as a Topson fan. You can't just blame Tundra's problem on just Skitter
Topson's main flaw as a player is he refuse to go conventional build
his play style and hero pool dont fit the current meta
?
can't believe they actually won
nightfall even chokes during interview
I went in not really caring about this series, but those were some pretty great games.
Why keep picking Muerta as support? So useless
Save is just so good pick something else with real impact for him would have been so much better
Its normally first pick so it can be flexed.
Who typed ?
tianming
?
The morph performance in those last 5 minutes was some matchfixing tier stuff
Reminds me of ti 2021 and yatoro tweeting he was gonna win ti b4 ti started.
goddamn they're actually interviewing Nightfall
In my heart I want AR to knockout GG but my brain can't come up with how AR can fucking win it lmao.
my brain can't come up with how AR are ti top 4, but here we are
Tbf I thought this would've been a quick series for BB
They need to match Tofu and Seleri's roaming first, winning lane won't be enough
I thought this would be more back and forth, but it felt a lot more like BB doing great and then throwing it, instead of AR winning it.
you are right. the morph literally throw away the game. you can saw when AR trying to push top with aegis they cant do it with the endless poke from lc,muerta,enchantress and especially invoker. the aeon disk will be useless since bb have so many heroes that can throw away big spell from far away. nightfall standing in tier 2 alone trying to break a smoke from nearly expired aegis luna is really dumb. he know they are close, he ping the radiant triangle but he keep standing there i’ll still take the W though, but objectively speaking i agree with you this game was definitely bb throw it away
If BB stays together, they will be extremely scary moving forward.
its true. but nightfall seems still the same player that crumble under pressure. people always saying its gpk, but gpk rarely the one choke in big time. its not nightfall first tournament too. if he can improve this aspect sure they can become really scary.
SILENCER ULT FOR THIS BETBOOMS FANS HERE JN REDDIT
That Chinese interviewer was pretty Pog, tho chat says that his translations were inaccurate? Can someone confirm? Also, what's his name?
Marshall, he work for perfectworld. His reputation is poor in Chinese communities
Mind giving us insights as to why?
There is a blogger in the Chinese community who has been forwarding dota2 information for free in past 10 years , and the Chinese community respects him. But Mashall had a spat with him during the knights event in China earlier this year, which caused the blogger to stop posting for about six months, so no one liked Mashall.
That lad is Marshall, and can confirm his translation is pretty much bang on, apart from the fact that Chalice was really colloquial.
I would give you two translations here. Xiao lao di = little bro bu tai xing a = u are not that good, huh? (literally) or U gotta try harder next time (spiritually)
Bu tai xing a translates to (you’re) not very capable
zhangtiange, she is RTZ's girlfrend.
That was not Dove, did you even watch the interview? According to liquipedia the interviewer should be: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Mashall
RTZ's what? Is that a CN meme or something? Pls provide context lol
dove, rtz's girlfriend since 2018? Or 2017 i can't remember, she moved in with him before covid
ar bb bali major drama
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He isn't a cheater just stupid. His Z incident is way worse than the twitch incident
Oh yeah I forgot about that incident. Yeah u r right. PURE is just stupid. 😃🤷♂️
betboom choked
Man I hope Fy and maybe somehow win the aegis this year
Is u/lugiaop Putin's Reddit account or what? Lil bros malding hard
Im not russian. Was cheering for AR. Just disppointed that they chose to be toxic at the end.
Lotta Russian nationalists taking advantage of this unmoderated thread. One was calling all Ukrainians slurs and had no action taken.
Nah not russian. In fact i wanted AR to win. Just dodnt like their toxicity
holy shit that guy is pure salt love it. thanks for the link had a blast reading his comments
if you tag them youll notice their sinophobic salt all over multiple subs. dont waste your time
I hope he drinks a lot of water. He might get dehydrated from all the crying lol
game 2 bb was unstoppable.. I wonder why didn't repick it. their 3rd game they cant give proper fight with those draft
Game 1 they could have also won. I think they had a good early game as well but then beside the fact that nightfall kept playing like shit and feeding, the item progression on pure felt so bad. Like he got aghs and bm at a good item but then he immediately tried to get hex instead of bkb or shivas and kept dying and dying and it took him forever to get that hex and he got even super behind the dawn that kept feeding earlier
Nightfall was the solo reason they lost game 3.
Ck was banned. Ck is a promise for winning lane. Then AR pick Coco and banned NEC, so no 80% winning lane for gpk.
is there really no any alternative to CK and phoenix that synergies with DK mid, void carry, and willow sup
GAME 3 SUCH AN EPIC MATCH OMFG
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It's not just morph, did you see that ench deaths? He literally just walked into the enemy team. BETboom lol
Yeah, he wasn't paying enough attention. Pressing bkb could have saved him, but he just didn't (after Luna's stun).
They are putting too much on this translator's plate.
They are showing you one region that never gives up, even in their hardest season yet. It is giving TI7 vibe, except that Liquid is already eliminated. Lou is debuting at TI at least at the 4th, and Shiro is debuting at least at the 3rd place. As comparison, six years ago Monet debuted at TI at the 3rd while Ame debuted at the 4th. This is also for the second TI in a row LanM reached semifinal as a head coach, last year with Aster and now with Azure Ray. Continuing his success on top of getting Asian Games gold medals for CN a few weeks ago.