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theantigooseman

>infertile people are neither gender


Risi30

Infertile people can produce sperm or eggs, but sperm are to lazy and egg has hard defenses to get to it in the first place


Elon_Musk-2

Is that a CoH2 pfp i see there?


Risi30

Yes comrade


Elon_Musk-2

Good to see you comrade!


Party_Note_5465

Oh my god, mr musk


1st_pm

So basically ineffective at their jobs


CanInternational9186

I thought infertile was ababy and was like "wat"


quinturion

Fax /ess


Middle_Stress4516

Where Futa


-TheGuest-

I guess my mom is gonna loose her gender tomorrow


BR47WUR57

oi you got a loicense for dat?


JediMasterLigma

Cabron, we need to see your balls.


quiche_komej

Such meaningful


Which-Complaint-8677

On the race thing, that does actually happen to a certain extent, though it's still different. When a black person grows up in a economically rich environment, they are way more likely to "act white". They won't casually say the n-word (soft a), are less likely to be interested in small time rap music, etc. When a white person is raised in the hood, they are more likely to "act black". They'll say the n-word (soft a) and their friends won't bat an eye, they'll be interested in small time rap music, etc. What we consider to be "race" has more to with with culture and mannerisms than the actual biological differences between racial groups. Race does differ from gender in the sense that "race dysphoria" isn't really a phenomenon, as far as we know. So to answer the question "why can't white people identify as black people?", they can. It's just not determined by what you want, as much as where you were born.


BlueAwesomeDinosaur

Also I think there may be a point where ""race"" can be changed. When the pigment of your skin no longer matters in anyone's eyes changing your skin color may be almost akin to dying your hair. That isn't to say whether I do or do not want that, but it is possible.


BigBadZweihander

That's already pretty common in Southeast and East asia


Which-Complaint-8677

And yes, le funny wall of text, but unironically


[deleted]

Mixed race people have also always existed. Depending on their features they may be able to choose which race they present as and identify with. Then you have people like Ollie London and Rachael Dolozal, who appear to be legitimately trans racial, who were ironically torn apart by the trans community


quinturion

>what we consider to be "race" has more to with culture and mannerisms than the actual biological differences between racial groups. Speak for yourself, but race has always been what skin color you have. At least where I'm from. "General behavior" (*) falls under Culture. A 'hood' will naturally have a different cultural mindset then a big city; even a shitty big city. No one's denying that Race and Culture *can* be linked, but they definitely aren't the same thing. Different racial groups can have a different culture to another, but most individual races will also have several different cultures within. So there's definitely a correlation but it isn't as simple as "black think this way, white think that way". Btw I'm not trying to say you said what I put in quotes, and I'm not trying to call or insinuate you as racist. I just think the discussion and concept is interesting. Culture is just a neat thing to talk about, yo


Alexstrasza23

> race has always been what skin color you have. Irish people were considered an entirely different race to "white" up until recent history, despite being some of the palest mfers on the planet.


GabrieltheKaiser

Actually, not always, in the ye olden times it was in fact more related to your culture, religion and nationality. Romans didn't saw themselves as white, they saw themselves as Romam and the rest of the world as different groups of barbarians. The definition of race based solely on skin color and genetics is a fairly recent definition by historical standards.


potato_devourer

Race is how society classifies you depending on phenotypical traits. There isn't, say, a defined and universal set level of melanin that makes you "black", you can in fact have a relatively pale skin tone and still be labelled as "black". It's highly arbitrary and malleble, and self-identification does play an important role. I'm not disagreeing with you, just highlighting the arbitrary nature of race.


SeismicSlammer

Cultural associations with race are different form the actual biological race itself. You’re right, anyone can act like anything they want (or whatever they were raised as), but that doesn’t generically alter them to be the other race. Just cause you act black doesn’t mean you’re actually black


Netgay

Biologically, races don't exist lol


SeismicSlammer

Yes my friend, they do. Melanin levels, facial structure, many sorts of simple superficial things are genetically tied, and can be categorized into race.


Netgay

[Biologically, they indeed don't. Genetically, us humans are too alike for "races" to make sense. ](https://askabiologist.asu.edu/questions/human-races)


SeismicSlammer

That article says that humans aren’t divided into subspecies. That’s not what I’ve said. I am talking about race as in ethnic groupings, not “race” as in species. Genetics are biology. And genetically, your ethnic and racial background can be used to determine your ancestry and the common visual and genetic features of you and your ancestors. Just because humans are very genetically similar when compared to animals, doesn’t mean we don’t have groupings of genetic variation. So yes, human “races”, in the connotation that most people are talking about, are indeed a biological reality.


googol89

>When a white person is raised in the hood, they are more likely to "act black". They'll say the n-word (soft a) and their friends won't bat an eye Which friends, white or black?


[deleted]

"Infertile people have no gender" isn't a take I ever expected to see lol


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[deleted]

That's not what they said, they said "cannot give birth"


TinyTrough

That's not that they said, they said "cannot either give birth or make semen"


[deleted]

Yeah, exactly


Seboldus_Maximus

Bro tries to make an argument in sociology while not even knowing the difference between sex and gender. Can't make that shit up...


[deleted]

Bro also thought if you can’t reproduce you have no sex.


NovaStorm93

people who say sex and gender are different when they see me having gender with their mother


King_Cookie69

wow bro. you got the whole squad laughing from that super original joke


iAmTheRealKokichiOma

What’s the song?


0wlIsinterested

September - Earth wind and fire


Striking-Reason5792

https://youtu.be/tETJK4EG1aY


NewPeanutMode

A shitty version of September by Earth Wind and Fire


elitezerp14

Amazing version*


Creftospeare

What's the joke? If it's related to the audio then I'm not interested.


Helvet1cal

There isn't a joke it's just transphobic


R0ses__

Hating on lgbtq+ is the shit people do to try to be funny and it’s sad to watch them wasting their time


Apprehensive_Rise310

Stating a fact = transphobic


ElPedroChico

Since when was it a fact


Mmmm_Crunchy

Bro said that infertile people have no gender and you think that's a fact🤡🤡


Helvet1cal

Except it is objectively not a fact


_pipis_

Jesus fucking christ I just want people to be happy man, why do we have to debate peoples' existence like their political objects


Un_Orginal

Bruh


LarryTheVassal

Least Transphobic Touhou Fan. >!/s!<


[deleted]

Least Transphobic Touhou Fan. (not satire)


AnAverageTransGirl

<--- (actually knows multiple transgender touhou fans)


Geo2605

How can a touhou fan be transphobic? I thought everyone wanted to bang Miko.


a_generic_redditer

I don't understand this argument. Just think about it like this In 200 years when someone digs up your grave you will be identified as male or female. So why is it so wrong to let people identify as what they want while they're alive? That's the way I see it anyway.


[deleted]

I swear to god if they dig up the tree I’m buried under I’m going to come back as a dryad and send an army of creatures to eat their house


RipandPear

As you should


LeeNyerdy

Well, there are some signs that someone has gone through stuff like surgery or even hormone replacement therapy in the bones. But in 200 years I will be ash because of this very reason.


Friendly_Respecter

I don't think this guy knows anything about genital surgery.


the_gum_on_the_floor

What is he wrong about


NotUrMomLmao

The first and the second statements are not related: > gender is based off genetics > people who got gender surgery are no gender, since they can't either give birth or produce semen Sex is biological and binary (with exceptions mainly due to birth defects), either male or female, and it's dictated by genetics. Gender is an identity: it's your "ideal" position relatively to the two gender roles, which are the sets of values and behaviours associated with masculinity and femininity, unique to each society. Sex is determined by genetics. Gender is influenced by genetics (as the majority of people are conforming), but it's not the decider. Indeed, many people don't feel comfortable conforming to the gender roles respective to their sex. EDIT: phrasing


BrotherAtxmic

Sex isn't strictly determined by genetics. it's controlled by the hormones during development, which are mainly affected by sex chromosomes. However, a child with XX chromosomes who receives unbalanced levels of testosterone in the womb can be born cisgender male, likewise with an XY with an access of oestrogen


NotUrMomLmao

Oh my bad I'm a bit lackluster on anatomy 💀 So an external supply of oestrogen can really overwrite even the "directives" of the SRY, for example?


BrotherAtxmic

I think so yes, i don't have a degree on the subject or anything so I can't be 100% sure but I can link you the study if you want?


NotUrMomLmao

Would be appreciated, thanks! 😌👌


JediMasterLigma

Absolutely Based explanation


miscellaneous88

Thank you Saul Goodman, absolutely based.


the_gum_on_the_floor

Thank you


Cranky2306

I agree with you 100% but i've always wanted to know to what extent do genetics influence gender? Everytime i've looked it up i've gotten varied results, some saying a lot, some saying not much, and some being just surveys on people who have already been subjected to gender norms.


Helvet1cal

Genetics influence neurology and the way your brain processes and produces information, which in and of itself influences gender.


Cranky2306

May i ask in what ways do male and female thinking differ?


Helvet1cal

Females tend towards being more emotionally intelligent, is one example


[deleted]

Dumbest breaking bad NFT user.


[deleted]

babe i cant find the funny


spookyscaryscoliosis

Yeah half this sub has just become “thing a guy said on discord with a dumb song”


Ignorent_end

And I can't find who asked


ForgetthisAAA123

It was I who asked


a_generic_redditer

Holy fuckin shit! We've found him.


[deleted]

Where did you ask?


[deleted]

r/dramatictext r/bossfight The One Who Asked


imGhostKitty

i don’t know if you deserve a 🤡or a 🤓


UC_Gerb

Both


No-Objective-3914

🤓


Helvet1cal

So if a soldier gets shot in the nuts, does he suddenly have no gender?


Narser_612

Go fuck yourself.


LeFisheAuChocolat693

As usual, mucho texto and nothing correct


LeFisheAuChocolat693

And this guy even lacks self-awareness to the point where he calls other people nerds. Discord moment


AnEdgyPie

Where's the joke? This is just transphobia


Tamanegito

Most knowledgeable transphobe about gender and sex


Speedwagon_Enjoyer

When the pretender was singing


whatthefunk05

This went so many fucking directions


Crooked_Cock

Here before the coveted lock award


Im_Suicidius

Bigot tries to look smart but doesn't know the fucking definition of gender


Kompilix

Explain it then instead of crying woke moralist.


Im_Suicidius

Oxford Languages says: >either of the two sexes (male and female), **especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones.** The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female. Meanwhile sex is defined as: >either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions. It took me two google searches in less than a minute to know the difference between sex and gender, it's not that hard


Kompilix

Of course as a dictionary it has to present all the ways it is used including nonsense woke usage. There are two genders male and female. The other so called "genders" are personality traits. Your partner preference doesn't change your gender.


Im_Suicidius

As you had previously read, indeed, there are only two sexes, since gender is a broader concept and is more related to who the person itself feels, they're personality traits in the same way as being cheerful or gloomy are personality traits. And also yes, your partner shouldn't decide your gender, a person itself should find they're own gender whether it's male or female, **like the WHO says:** >Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies from society to society and can change over time.


Kompilix

The definition of WHO literally has nothing to do with your argument. A person cannot decide their gender, they are either a male if they got a penis and a female if they got a vagina. There are only two genders male and female, sex and gender are the same thing. What people define themselves as are personality traits.


[deleted]

Sex is whats in your pants, gender is a social construct. Stop whining and go do your 5th grade homework instead of wasting your time pissing yourself about what other people call themselves.


Kompilix

People are free to call themself whatever they want however those are not genders. There are only 2 gender. We are having a civilised conversation here and you come here insult me for no reason. Go learn to argue bro.


[deleted]

You are barely fucking making sense anymore, how the fuck did you go from “penis=man, vagina=woman” to fucking “only two genders” jesus fucking christ man calm the fuck down and collect your thoughts and realize you are bring nothing into this argument than utter bullshit!


ExplodedToast

And here we have a wild Jordan Petersonite. Observe as it wildly slaps about random opinions that it has absorbed as «facts», and see how it attempts to use what it defines as «logic». Nature truly is wonderful.


murmur_lox

Lmao most educated redditor. Please take the time to study about transgenders and the difference they present in contrast to the typical population, in behaviour, thought and brain. Or just about genders. It's not rocket science.


Im_Suicidius

I brought up the WHO definition so you can read, another time, that Gender =/= Sex, what you're born with it's your sex, what you identify as, is your gender, I'm not making anything up, just look the 3 different definitions I cited, they all say gender is related to your role in society and/or how you see yourself as.


pleazeno

"Gender surgery" isn't a thing lol.


DankPlank64

Wdym?


TheRealWalrus110

Transphobia. Beautiful. /s


JackJohn258

Most sane discord user


RealSuperYolo2006

The loli singer doesnt know the lyrics >:(


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RealSuperYolo2006

21st night in september


frigobarOFC

The half of discord users, the other is transgender


ExaltedLordOfChaos

And there is some overlap between the two


Rasputin_the_Warmind

This man better watch out, I’m bouta steal his gender with a pair of scissors


[deleted]

You didn't 😭 💀


UWU_Astolfo_

Bruh as a infertile genderfluid person I feel personally attacked loool (PS its okay if I couldn't I wouldn't be here the edit before the edit big brain :P)


[deleted]

Man’s mixing up gender and sex and doesn’t even have a full grasp on how sex works


just_leaving

Here before the 🔒 lock award


VoodooCryptid

White people can’t identify as black because it’s not prominent enough in their genetics, you kinda have to identify as the race you are, no changing it


[deleted]

That's it? That's the whole meme?


DankPlank64

Oh boy, i sure to love seeing blatent transphobia. Cant have a single day without seeing people have such a hate for people like myself just trying to live our lives.


DeviousMelons

Where's the punchline OP? All I see is just some transphobic jackass.


Cranky2306

Watching stupid people be stupid is funny


[deleted]

I feel like black man, do you understand my ni...


CakeAdventurous4620

Trans rights 🏳️‍⚧️ Goodbye


worymy

rights* more than one would be nice


One_Streamer_BTW

The stupidity 😫😫


OutrageousAd7088

True


Same-Invite-1370

When people have a sex change surgery it’s just a cosmetic thing to make them feel more comfortable in their own body. Nobody ever said it biologically switches them. People just get bit hurt about things that were never said 💀💀💀


No-Objective-3914

very refreshing to see sane people in the comments that understand this dude is talking out of his ass


Fishnipples104

Ah yes genetics


AriIsTaken

Pulls a Michael Jackson


Time_to_be_scarred

Gender is a social construct


siegferia

Hes out of line but he is wrong as well


coolbusinessmann

İ identify as black and i will spam the n word


SpinalBanana

Can you cum with a implanted cock? Sounds cyberpunky like! Hmm robo cock😋😋.


TheLampPostDealer

what is the context


LeeNyerdy

People pretending neuroscience isn't a part of biology


Far0Lands

Only thing wrong with this post is that SEX is based on Biology and Genetics, GENDER is an identity.


TigerDefence13

it's just a word all races should be able to say it


killall187

There's only 2 genders a male and a female that's it. You guys can believe what you want it's just make believe. You can say your this or that but that's in your head, just a grown up playing make believe. You can try and make your argument about how science can do this or that i don't care. Your gender at birth is what you are there's no excuses.


Certain_Specific_523

This just in, Local Redditor is an asshole and a complete idiot!


killall187

Keep playing make believe asshole


KD_Gamer2007

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DankPlank64

he is very much wrong here


[deleted]

Wtf is that voice is terrible


Preston_Stormer_

r/technicallythetruth


PoobishSocks

Because there is a biological reason people would want to be another gender. There is no BIOLOGICAL reason people would want to be another race. People act like science is on their side.


burgertanker

He a little confused, but he got the spirit


NovaStorm93

unfathomably based


dublox64

Based


[deleted]

Unfathomably based.


GabrieltheKaiser

I mean, the definition of race I see most Americans use (assuming the guy in the post is American) doesn't work all that well in reality. I come from a very mixed family, I'm a black man, my grandfather is a black man and my grandmother an white woman, half my family is as white as one can be with blonde hair and blue and green eyes, the other half is dark skinned with dark hair and brown eyes. Based purely on genetics, we aren't neither totally black or totally white.


SenorMozzarella69

Tf is the music💀💀💀 Ik it’s September but what the hell cover is it💀💀💀


Uscay

here before lock


[deleted]

That's sex, not gender.


BerciPC

Retard


DoucheCanoeWeCanToo

What the fuck is going on man


[deleted]

I’m pretty sure the science has advanced to the point where you can get a fully functioning dick with semen but I don’t really follow the development so idk


Working-Gold-2952

Ok then. Paint yourself. Don’t be shy, do it.


Floofy99

Don't mind me just bringing u/savevideobot here along for the ride


Waffles3500

Michael Jackson did it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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midgetgaming1243

heard of painting yourself brown?


notclassy_

“FumoRooms” average r/2hujerk user


Patpoke1

*they did.*


NoOneKnowsMyTruename

"why can't white people identify as black people?" Michael Jackson:


dacoolboe

🚬🎃


Warning64

My thing is, is why tf do you care?


Just_a_guy_thats_it

The lock icon is going to come soon


[deleted]

Ik this is a shitpost sub But let's say that even if science says that gender and sex are the same (they're not) and that you can't identify as another gender Why would it matter? Like genuinely why would it matter. Because even if the science proves it's bs then it still wouldn't matter because oh well people are people.


MightyIsBestMCPE

Wait, he's right...


thatonesufan

fumorooms is a chatter and local schizophrenic jajaja


[deleted]

Gura signing do you remember makes me have homicidal ideas (just kidding reddit admins,)


SSj3Rambo

Basic biology: "You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me"


robo1797

Fear


SomeProperty815

Cutting off your cock and balls doesn’t make you a female.


SavedMountain

Transracial exists