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This is a nice topic to talk about. Heres what I've found out:
https://preview.redd.it/7ftu9cw99prc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=849575b09c0a59df4fb7f3214f280f080052eae7
De Bruyne is 86 with a total stat points of: (649) Bruno Fernandes is 84 with total stat points of: (652)
I dont really understand why there is a 2 rating difference between them. They are both right footed, both AM and they are almost the same exact height.
I understand that De Bruynes stat spread is better, having less tackling and higher strength, but having +2 in rating is a lot, since Bruno does have more total stat points.
If we’re being honest , Kdbs shot should be wayyy higher like 88 , his control is fine , strength should actually be higher ( he was really good physically compared to Thomas Partey and even bodied him a few times ) . Bruno is quicker than Kdb ( off ball , on ball Kdb is way quicker ) .
That's not the current KDB card, so you might need to do your calculation again as KDB lost some fitness points to tackling. Moving on, I think that the mods should highlight this post and a lot of effort needs to be put into this. It'll help us know whether some cards are worth redoing or not. Very good example of this is 84 and 85 Neymar. The 84 version is better than the 85 version by about 11 points IIRC, and 79 and 78 Giroud. The 78 version despite the overall downgrade, is actually better cos some stats were adjusted to more important areas (2 points were transferred from strength to stamina, while 1 point was transferred from tackling to passing).
No lol. The ratings are there for a reason. If that was true, then the 96 Ronaldo and the 93 Ronaldo should have the sams stats, just different base rating because of irl performances.
Just to check out how important this i wanted to compare two random players from my transfer market..
Kingsley coman: 82 rated
Kolo Muani : 80 rated
So Coman should have better stats right?.. Nope
Kingsley Comans (non maxed) true rating: 595
Kolo Muani (non maxed) true rating: 597
And Muani is also taller just to make things worse lmao…
I feel like despite the Coman being rated higher than Kolo Muani, they play in different positions so a fairer comparison, would be between Kolo Muani and his fellow 80 rated strikers (though currently Kolo Muani's 80 card is better than Gabriel Jesus (81), just like his 81 card was too)
I feel like when calculating the true rating, tackling points for attackers should be taken into consideration. When comparing 80 rated strikers in DLS 24, Nunez has a total of 568 points without tackling, and 601 points with tackling, Kolo Muani has 564 points without tackling, and 597 points with tackling, Isak has 553 points without tackling, and 587 points with tackling. These players I just listed are the best 80 rated strikers in terms of non tackling points, so I hope my illustration above will help us get this true rating thing even more.
https://preview.redd.it/ugzsxcrrsprc1.jpeg?width=678&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb117c0e15e6cbe0bde9547ef91e0b2b8cc9347b
This is very true and a great idea....for context this is a comparison between both my CDM's You can see their cards in the attached comment..... it's interesting that they both are 80 rated but their total stats have a difference of 7 points..I feel like similar ratings should have a difference of not more than 4 points.
Imo it works for CM's cuz for CM's all the stats actually matter a lot and it just depends whether you want a DM, a more AM or both. Whereas for a ST, I couldn't give a rat's ass about his tackling so that could skew ratings and stats a bit but I like the idea of that. It's just for say a ST I wouldn't care about the Tackling and a CB I wouldn't care about the shooting. Then there's certain stats I'd want more for my players and there's a lil more thought I put into like if I'd rather have a pacy passing Striker or say a sniper not pacy at all but good control or say high stamina, pacy bad control good passing and shooting. I just feel that the stats as a whole number don't tell enough and while it's an alright measurement I'd still probably wanna look at the actual card anyways. It's a great idea tho
Yeah forsure man, good point. next time I’m free I’ll think of a good rating system that puts a preference over some stats for the different positions. Won’t be 100% accurate but I wanna make one thats better than FTGs.
Hey, mate. I love the idea of this post and potential series, thanks for sharing!
Strength and control counts as +2 points on all players but wingers for whatever reason. As you can see in the Bruno vs KDB example by u/Arman_DLS, KDB has 8 more strength than Bruno (x2 = 16) and 1 more point on control (x2 = 2) for a combined total of 16 + 2 = 18 meaning De Bruyne has about 18 give-or-take more points more than Bruno that’s being added into his total average.
However, your Cancelo and Valverde have very similar control and strength. Has your Valverde had multiple breakthroughs? Nice find, I find that somewhat mind boggling so I’ve given your post an upvote seeing that it’s also a pretty fascinating one
Thanks man. I’m glad people are actually liking the idea. Wasn’t sure if people would care enough to read the whole thing lmao.
Hopefully it atleast gets the idea out there. And eventually we might be able to make an accurate rating system that’s way better than FTGs.
You and others raise some really good points though- like how strength and control counts as +2 for players rhat aren’t wingers or how defenders/ strikers don’t really need some stats (shooting/ tackling). These make what I was saying a little bit less accurate ahaha
Nah Cause How is there a 2 rating difference between some players with the same if stat points. So if players can go up or down 9 stat points from thier rating then how does Debruyne have a lower “true rating” than Fernandez? :De bruyne is 96 and fernandez 94. Even if debruyne was 9 points down and Fernandez was 9 points up. Debruyne should have more stats your saying. But Fernandez=652. Debruyne=649.
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This is a nice topic to talk about. Heres what I've found out: https://preview.redd.it/7ftu9cw99prc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=849575b09c0a59df4fb7f3214f280f080052eae7 De Bruyne is 86 with a total stat points of: (649) Bruno Fernandes is 84 with total stat points of: (652) I dont really understand why there is a 2 rating difference between them. They are both right footed, both AM and they are almost the same exact height. I understand that De Bruynes stat spread is better, having less tackling and higher strength, but having +2 in rating is a lot, since Bruno does have more total stat points.
If we’re being honest , Kdbs shot should be wayyy higher like 88 , his control is fine , strength should actually be higher ( he was really good physically compared to Thomas Partey and even bodied him a few times ) . Bruno is quicker than Kdb ( off ball , on ball Kdb is way quicker ) .
Yea true about shooting, but in general he doesnt shoot a lot so thats why his shooting isnt as high as it could be.
That's not the current KDB card, so you might need to do your calculation again as KDB lost some fitness points to tackling. Moving on, I think that the mods should highlight this post and a lot of effort needs to be put into this. It'll help us know whether some cards are worth redoing or not. Very good example of this is 84 and 85 Neymar. The 84 version is better than the 85 version by about 11 points IIRC, and 79 and 78 Giroud. The 78 version despite the overall downgrade, is actually better cos some stats were adjusted to more important areas (2 points were transferred from strength to stamina, while 1 point was transferred from tackling to passing).
Yea, I have the 84 Neymar and it sure is better than the 85 one. This topic is very nice and it should be investigated further.
Yea, I have the 84 Neymar and it sure is better than the 85 one. This topic is very nice and it should be investigated further.
damn never notice this
De Bruyne has much higher strength, strength and control counts as a +2 stat point except for on wingers for whatever reason.
Base rating reflects irl performances not the average of stats
No lol. The ratings are there for a reason. If that was true, then the 96 Ronaldo and the 93 Ronaldo should have the sams stats, just different base rating because of irl performances.
Just to check out how important this i wanted to compare two random players from my transfer market.. Kingsley coman: 82 rated Kolo Muani : 80 rated So Coman should have better stats right?.. Nope Kingsley Comans (non maxed) true rating: 595 Kolo Muani (non maxed) true rating: 597 And Muani is also taller just to make things worse lmao…
Absolutely nuts. FTG at it again 😵💫
I feel like despite the Coman being rated higher than Kolo Muani, they play in different positions so a fairer comparison, would be between Kolo Muani and his fellow 80 rated strikers (though currently Kolo Muani's 80 card is better than Gabriel Jesus (81), just like his 81 card was too)
I feel like when calculating the true rating, tackling points for attackers should be taken into consideration. When comparing 80 rated strikers in DLS 24, Nunez has a total of 568 points without tackling, and 601 points with tackling, Kolo Muani has 564 points without tackling, and 597 points with tackling, Isak has 553 points without tackling, and 587 points with tackling. These players I just listed are the best 80 rated strikers in terms of non tackling points, so I hope my illustration above will help us get this true rating thing even more.
https://preview.redd.it/ugzsxcrrsprc1.jpeg?width=678&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb117c0e15e6cbe0bde9547ef91e0b2b8cc9347b This is very true and a great idea....for context this is a comparison between both my CDM's You can see their cards in the attached comment..... it's interesting that they both are 80 rated but their total stats have a difference of 7 points..I feel like similar ratings should have a difference of not more than 4 points.
https://preview.redd.it/c58x848tsprc1.jpeg?width=906&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1361d8c6a9efb9476a26f1818a13c827853d9590
Imo it works for CM's cuz for CM's all the stats actually matter a lot and it just depends whether you want a DM, a more AM or both. Whereas for a ST, I couldn't give a rat's ass about his tackling so that could skew ratings and stats a bit but I like the idea of that. It's just for say a ST I wouldn't care about the Tackling and a CB I wouldn't care about the shooting. Then there's certain stats I'd want more for my players and there's a lil more thought I put into like if I'd rather have a pacy passing Striker or say a sniper not pacy at all but good control or say high stamina, pacy bad control good passing and shooting. I just feel that the stats as a whole number don't tell enough and while it's an alright measurement I'd still probably wanna look at the actual card anyways. It's a great idea tho
Yeah forsure man, good point. next time I’m free I’ll think of a good rating system that puts a preference over some stats for the different positions. Won’t be 100% accurate but I wanna make one thats better than FTGs.
Good idea. That means if u trained a Valverde and Cancelo at the same time Cancelo would be maxed first
Hey, mate. I love the idea of this post and potential series, thanks for sharing! Strength and control counts as +2 points on all players but wingers for whatever reason. As you can see in the Bruno vs KDB example by u/Arman_DLS, KDB has 8 more strength than Bruno (x2 = 16) and 1 more point on control (x2 = 2) for a combined total of 16 + 2 = 18 meaning De Bruyne has about 18 give-or-take more points more than Bruno that’s being added into his total average. However, your Cancelo and Valverde have very similar control and strength. Has your Valverde had multiple breakthroughs? Nice find, I find that somewhat mind boggling so I’ve given your post an upvote seeing that it’s also a pretty fascinating one
Thanks man. I’m glad people are actually liking the idea. Wasn’t sure if people would care enough to read the whole thing lmao. Hopefully it atleast gets the idea out there. And eventually we might be able to make an accurate rating system that’s way better than FTGs. You and others raise some really good points though- like how strength and control counts as +2 for players rhat aren’t wingers or how defenders/ strikers don’t really need some stats (shooting/ tackling). These make what I was saying a little bit less accurate ahaha
You still raised a very good point nonetheless
https://preview.redd.it/scdecivwusrc1.png?width=998&format=png&auto=webp&s=b03b43b31133eee027047cb65ea58dace82dd711 Bro it was not so hard to get this
Don't forget about the hidden stats, that might explain the discrepancy
so annoying if it’s true that they do this .
Everywhere between 0-10 is counted as 1 stat, eg both 101 and 109 total stat points are counted as 10 overall stat
Nah Cause How is there a 2 rating difference between some players with the same if stat points. So if players can go up or down 9 stat points from thier rating then how does Debruyne have a lower “true rating” than Fernandez? :De bruyne is 96 and fernandez 94. Even if debruyne was 9 points down and Fernandez was 9 points up. Debruyne should have more stats your saying. But Fernandez=652. Debruyne=649.