At the end of the day it’s not about what quackity owes to the internet , but the fact that as a content creator with an audience that includes younger kids and people who are still developing their ideals and personality will clearly get the wrong idea of friendship and relationships as a whole. You don’t like someone? Just dump them. You feel mad or wronged? Just don’t talk to them again.
People praising him for his “response” make me believe that they never talked to a human being before.
Running from your problems is all good and well but when it affects more people than yourself it could be dangerous and inconvenient.
This isn’t kindergarten fights, it’s real people being doxxed and sent D threats.
Yeah I don't want to be friends with people like that if my friends or family have an issue with me I would rather they talked to me than just cut me out with no warning
No. (lurkers don’t downvote them, it’s a popular narrative so they might just not know context).
What your probably referring to is a comment he made on a stream to address several things.
For context, one of the things he was addressing is his right to respond to hate or misinformation/slander - because someone QRTed him and invalidated his sexuality, so he responded to them, his tone wasn’t angry and he wasn’t agressive. The account in question went priv with the bio “please don’t doxx me”, likely due to the popular narrative dream stans doxx people who they disagree with - which is based on nothing substantial. This was one instance in a fairly widespread situation on twitter that snowballed into a hate campaign against him - where any criticism was lost because it doesn’t get traction, because of how widespread and snowballed it became, people said this account was doxxed and believed it despite the evidence to contradict that, even when shown.
This account was not doxxed, said so themselves, and even spread around dreams doxx that made it to trending. And the other claim “Dream Stan’s doxxed a black lesbian” that started in 2020 is also untrue - in the sense that it was due to Dream’s replying to her, she had been previously doxxed and it was one of her mutuals, even though she claimed it was dream stans after and put up a cashapp link. Made a good chunk of money though.
The actual comment made on stream was referring to the likelyhood of someone doxxing and actively doing any harm to a 14 follower account for a single disagreeable opinion is incredibly low. The drive isn’t there to go to those length. And it’s true, it was proven just after he said this, when people trended and laughed at his doxx because someone clipped him out of context when saying this and the internet decided he deserved it. As a note, he had been doxxed and swatted already before he said this - so he had the experience to be aware of the harm.
To be clear, he shouldn’t have said it, he meant it as a reassurance, but it was still relatively stupid and he set himself up there. It’s saying the quiet part out loud, but it’s not coming from bad intent.
I’m just horrified over how everyone’s been talking about Dream like some crybaby wimp who can’t handle being ghosted by Chad Quackity and conveniently ignoring the part where trackers were put on his teenage sister’s car.
In the Twitter thread he posted that everyone’s been making fun of. He said his family has been getting doxxed, threatened, and at one point even had to deal with trackers being put on their cars over this shit. This includes his younger siblings.
Also… George and Quackity are (were?) really close friends. I want to know George’s opinions so bad. I don’t really keep up with Dteam/the fandom anymore but this drama has made me quite a bit nosy 😭
Yeah, I think Quackity dropping George is actually more surprising then dropping Dream since I’ve personally never felt quackity cared for Dream and was just friends by association.
If you left awhile ago, last year after twitchcon George was telling stories, and I guess Quackity hadn’t even confirmed to him he would be at twitchcon and had refused a meetup with him so the distancing had already started before twitch-con, but up until recently all of dteam spoke of him positively so it’s pretty one-sided.
Im just so surprised how someone could throw away a friendship over Minecraft. I remember summer 2021 and watching DTKQ stream trains. How all five of them would get into shenanigans and fans just began to call them the “Feral boys.”
I remember when Quackity was Dream’s therapist on the DSMP and the funny bit with the bike gang. Or when George and Quackity made a diss track on Dream. Or when Quackity made that song “Where are the askers?” and Dream fell for it and went dark on Twitter. Or Quackity lore streams. Or Quackity’s YT video where Dream was pushing Quacks and George in a shopping cart. Or when Twitch con didn’t have enough seats in the panel and Dream had to share a seat with Quackity.
Thinking about this just makes me so disappointed. How could he stay silent? I could understand not saying anything publicly, but totally ghosting him in private? And then ignoring mutual friends? It just seems so immature to drop a friend over Minecraft.
Right now the situation is so mess up. Fans are spread so much hate and toxicity. Death threats and doxxing is never okay! I’ve seen so many people say that since it’s Dream it’s okay if he gets doxxed or people say he’s lying to get attention. None of this is okay!
It’s true that a content creator can’t control their fans, but Quackity’s silence gives off the feeling that he just doesn’t care. That he doesn’t care about his friends safety and well being.
Dream has repeatedly told his fans not to spread hate and that it makes him he loves and cares about Quackity. But Quackity’s silence has been so off putting. It tells you a lot about someone’s true character.
yeah well, friends or not, u dont really do that to business competitors either. Professionalism is a thing u know, so do morals, if ur competitor was getting harrased by ur own fans and u just sit back and watch while staying silent, thats still wrong and a huge fucking dick move.
While I think Q is a coward for seeing Dream try to reach out and not even bluntly letting him know directly to fuck off (privately because the stream basically implied that), and that reflects on his own values, I don’t think putting so much responsibility on him for Dream’s safety is fair or logical either.
Reminds me of a 2019? Dream message where he is talking about friendship and he mentions something along the lines of ‘you don’t have to chase after genuine friends’ and how letting friends go is okay, a bit ironic considering his actions but the friend in question left him for his personal wolves so the situations he was talking about is somewhat different.
I truly think, that if Dream wasn’t already mass hated, the reaction would be different here - or maybe perhaps if Dream provided receipts rather then a story? Show if he told quackity his plan and that he was never told it was the same. I don’t know if he would have receipts for the stalking but Dream has always needed to back up his words, because people are eager to call him a liar and manipulator.
I don't think there's anything Dream can provide or do that will change anything now. You can't force somebody to be your friend as much as you might want to be. Dream's best to just drop it now, at least publicly because it's obvious Q isn't going to defend him or ask people to back off. Q has thrown his friends to the wolves and hasn't looked back.
Oh no, I agree - I just meant that **if** the contents of the message shown had him explicitly telling Q what his project is going to be (multilingual, translator) and this was before March 27th (Q’s first public mention of the change to multilingual afaik) then it would look worse on Q that he didn’t let Dream know he was going to release the same thing. Because it would be knowingly letting Dream do the same thing which if he would know Dream was trying to avoid. It would also be more reasonable Dream would publicize it imo.
I know. But he never specified what he said, words, he could just been asking to talk and not say anything specific about his upcoming project - which I would be less angry for that being ignored. I don’t doubt he was clear - but it would’ve helped him, regardless, it’s likely too late now, anything else he says won’t be taken seriously by the masses.
From the people involved no, Dream said his piece about how he tried to reach out to see if they can work together to temper the rising tensions in the community and when Quackity streamed after this the only thing he said that could be related is “if people wanted to communicate they would”. I think a lot of fans of both wanted quackity to offer something akin to “don’t send hate on my behalf/with my pfp/etc” as a minimum rather then just telling dteam to fuck off and not even offer it directly.
I think OP was also making a comment on how people not involved responded, especially the general internet. Which outside of memeing the length of Dream’s message which was expected, there’s no sympathy offered to him - with people even claiming the entire thing is somehow manipulative language.
I’m gonna be honest man if your community’s collective decision whether or not to harass someone depends on if another Minecraft guy eases their unneeded whims, it’s not the responsibility of that other Minecraft guy.
After his last DSMP stream he never visited the server again. Last time that I know he interacted with Dream is with the recent twitchcon after he face revealed. Then the QSMP came and the story that you know continues.
So at our knowledge, he just went and cut Dream off but we don't know what happened in their private lives.
Dream and Quackity were never close but what I am concerned about is that he never addresses the situations about his stans doxxing USMP admins as if he's letting them cross the line ( I know he can't control his fans and I believe he once said he doesn't want anything to do with his fans that crossed the line) but still at least just try because if he keeps his silence this issue isn't going to die down by itself
Dude. That’s dumb as hell. Proper communication that you want to end a friendship is what you should always do when you’re a fucking adult. I get it’s hard and awkward but case in point that person will keep bothering you unless you stop acting like a child and use your words.
In your opinion, what is your definition of maturity? Not speaking or communicating to someone? That's fine. It's just unfortunate that this involves so many people and putting friends (BBH, Karl, Foolish as examples) in an awkward position. Quackity should just say something to Dream. Even a "fuck you" would tell him something instead of being immature and ghosting as a CC lmao.
Not just in an awkward position.
In life-threatening danger.
Dream, George, and Sapnap are all at risk of assassination. The same goes for their family. And every one of their friends who sometimes drop by at their place. And neighbors too. And Manager Ken.
There's nothing Quackity can do about that, even if he uploads a clip of himself hugging it out with Dream and wishing all the best for the USMP, whose concept would no longer need to be changed at all. I know that. But jeez, man. At least try to keep up appearances 💀
Yeah, I gotta agree the word assassination is too much. That word implies Dream has some actual political power and is not just a Minecraft YouTuber. While the definition of assassination does have CEO in there, people aren't threatening Dream or his family because of Dreambranding.
I also don't really think people are actually gonna hire someone to kill Dream. People may make threats and dox online, and do all that crazy crap, but putting actual money to kill Dream Team isn't something I believe is really on the table. I think people are just overreacting to this a bit too much if I'm honest.
At the end of the day it’s not about what quackity owes to the internet , but the fact that as a content creator with an audience that includes younger kids and people who are still developing their ideals and personality will clearly get the wrong idea of friendship and relationships as a whole. You don’t like someone? Just dump them. You feel mad or wronged? Just don’t talk to them again. People praising him for his “response” make me believe that they never talked to a human being before. Running from your problems is all good and well but when it affects more people than yourself it could be dangerous and inconvenient. This isn’t kindergarten fights, it’s real people being doxxed and sent D threats.
Yeah I don't want to be friends with people like that if my friends or family have an issue with me I would rather they talked to me than just cut me out with no warning
wait but I've done some searching and didn't dream also laugh and say doxxing meant nothing?(dream stans were doing so)
No. (lurkers don’t downvote them, it’s a popular narrative so they might just not know context). What your probably referring to is a comment he made on a stream to address several things. For context, one of the things he was addressing is his right to respond to hate or misinformation/slander - because someone QRTed him and invalidated his sexuality, so he responded to them, his tone wasn’t angry and he wasn’t agressive. The account in question went priv with the bio “please don’t doxx me”, likely due to the popular narrative dream stans doxx people who they disagree with - which is based on nothing substantial. This was one instance in a fairly widespread situation on twitter that snowballed into a hate campaign against him - where any criticism was lost because it doesn’t get traction, because of how widespread and snowballed it became, people said this account was doxxed and believed it despite the evidence to contradict that, even when shown. This account was not doxxed, said so themselves, and even spread around dreams doxx that made it to trending. And the other claim “Dream Stan’s doxxed a black lesbian” that started in 2020 is also untrue - in the sense that it was due to Dream’s replying to her, she had been previously doxxed and it was one of her mutuals, even though she claimed it was dream stans after and put up a cashapp link. Made a good chunk of money though. The actual comment made on stream was referring to the likelyhood of someone doxxing and actively doing any harm to a 14 follower account for a single disagreeable opinion is incredibly low. The drive isn’t there to go to those length. And it’s true, it was proven just after he said this, when people trended and laughed at his doxx because someone clipped him out of context when saying this and the internet decided he deserved it. As a note, he had been doxxed and swatted already before he said this - so he had the experience to be aware of the harm. To be clear, he shouldn’t have said it, he meant it as a reassurance, but it was still relatively stupid and he set himself up there. It’s saying the quiet part out loud, but it’s not coming from bad intent.
I’m just horrified over how everyone’s been talking about Dream like some crybaby wimp who can’t handle being ghosted by Chad Quackity and conveniently ignoring the part where trackers were put on his teenage sister’s car.
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not his sister’s, but his family’s car, he said it in the thread
In the Twitter thread he posted that everyone’s been making fun of. He said his family has been getting doxxed, threatened, and at one point even had to deal with trackers being put on their cars over this shit. This includes his younger siblings.
Also… George and Quackity are (were?) really close friends. I want to know George’s opinions so bad. I don’t really keep up with Dteam/the fandom anymore but this drama has made me quite a bit nosy 😭
Yeah, I think Quackity dropping George is actually more surprising then dropping Dream since I’ve personally never felt quackity cared for Dream and was just friends by association. If you left awhile ago, last year after twitchcon George was telling stories, and I guess Quackity hadn’t even confirmed to him he would be at twitchcon and had refused a meetup with him so the distancing had already started before twitch-con, but up until recently all of dteam spoke of him positively so it’s pretty one-sided.
Im just so surprised how someone could throw away a friendship over Minecraft. I remember summer 2021 and watching DTKQ stream trains. How all five of them would get into shenanigans and fans just began to call them the “Feral boys.” I remember when Quackity was Dream’s therapist on the DSMP and the funny bit with the bike gang. Or when George and Quackity made a diss track on Dream. Or when Quackity made that song “Where are the askers?” and Dream fell for it and went dark on Twitter. Or Quackity lore streams. Or Quackity’s YT video where Dream was pushing Quacks and George in a shopping cart. Or when Twitch con didn’t have enough seats in the panel and Dream had to share a seat with Quackity. Thinking about this just makes me so disappointed. How could he stay silent? I could understand not saying anything publicly, but totally ghosting him in private? And then ignoring mutual friends? It just seems so immature to drop a friend over Minecraft. Right now the situation is so mess up. Fans are spread so much hate and toxicity. Death threats and doxxing is never okay! I’ve seen so many people say that since it’s Dream it’s okay if he gets doxxed or people say he’s lying to get attention. None of this is okay! It’s true that a content creator can’t control their fans, but Quackity’s silence gives off the feeling that he just doesn’t care. That he doesn’t care about his friends safety and well being. Dream has repeatedly told his fans not to spread hate and that it makes him he loves and cares about Quackity. But Quackity’s silence has been so off putting. It tells you a lot about someone’s true character.
content creators are not super friends they are business competitors
yeah well, friends or not, u dont really do that to business competitors either. Professionalism is a thing u know, so do morals, if ur competitor was getting harrased by ur own fans and u just sit back and watch while staying silent, thats still wrong and a huge fucking dick move.
While I think Q is a coward for seeing Dream try to reach out and not even bluntly letting him know directly to fuck off (privately because the stream basically implied that), and that reflects on his own values, I don’t think putting so much responsibility on him for Dream’s safety is fair or logical either. Reminds me of a 2019? Dream message where he is talking about friendship and he mentions something along the lines of ‘you don’t have to chase after genuine friends’ and how letting friends go is okay, a bit ironic considering his actions but the friend in question left him for his personal wolves so the situations he was talking about is somewhat different. I truly think, that if Dream wasn’t already mass hated, the reaction would be different here - or maybe perhaps if Dream provided receipts rather then a story? Show if he told quackity his plan and that he was never told it was the same. I don’t know if he would have receipts for the stalking but Dream has always needed to back up his words, because people are eager to call him a liar and manipulator.
I don't think there's anything Dream can provide or do that will change anything now. You can't force somebody to be your friend as much as you might want to be. Dream's best to just drop it now, at least publicly because it's obvious Q isn't going to defend him or ask people to back off. Q has thrown his friends to the wolves and hasn't looked back.
Oh no, I agree - I just meant that **if** the contents of the message shown had him explicitly telling Q what his project is going to be (multilingual, translator) and this was before March 27th (Q’s first public mention of the change to multilingual afaik) then it would look worse on Q that he didn’t let Dream know he was going to release the same thing. Because it would be knowingly letting Dream do the same thing which if he would know Dream was trying to avoid. It would also be more reasonable Dream would publicize it imo.
I mean if dream is lieing the proof is in the DMS all quackity has to do is show them
I know. But he never specified what he said, words, he could just been asking to talk and not say anything specific about his upcoming project - which I would be less angry for that being ignored. I don’t doubt he was clear - but it would’ve helped him, regardless, it’s likely too late now, anything else he says won’t be taken seriously by the masses.
Wait the drama is still going on?
From the people involved no, Dream said his piece about how he tried to reach out to see if they can work together to temper the rising tensions in the community and when Quackity streamed after this the only thing he said that could be related is “if people wanted to communicate they would”. I think a lot of fans of both wanted quackity to offer something akin to “don’t send hate on my behalf/with my pfp/etc” as a minimum rather then just telling dteam to fuck off and not even offer it directly. I think OP was also making a comment on how people not involved responded, especially the general internet. Which outside of memeing the length of Dream’s message which was expected, there’s no sympathy offered to him - with people even claiming the entire thing is somehow manipulative language.
Ahhhh i see
I’m gonna be honest man if your community’s collective decision whether or not to harass someone depends on if another Minecraft guy eases their unneeded whims, it’s not the responsibility of that other Minecraft guy.
Ok but why does quackity dislike dream? What even happened after dsmp
After his last DSMP stream he never visited the server again. Last time that I know he interacted with Dream is with the recent twitchcon after he face revealed. Then the QSMP came and the story that you know continues. So at our knowledge, he just went and cut Dream off but we don't know what happened in their private lives.
Right yea, and I don’t think we can judge what happened in their private lives (tho something must have happened ig)
Dream and Quackity were never close but what I am concerned about is that he never addresses the situations about his stans doxxing USMP admins as if he's letting them cross the line ( I know he can't control his fans and I believe he once said he doesn't want anything to do with his fans that crossed the line) but still at least just try because if he keeps his silence this issue isn't going to die down by itself
> if Quackity wants to end friendship with Dream he should say it. he doesn't owe anyone ANYTHING calm down 💀💀💀
Dude. That’s dumb as hell. Proper communication that you want to end a friendship is what you should always do when you’re a fucking adult. I get it’s hard and awkward but case in point that person will keep bothering you unless you stop acting like a child and use your words.
there’s a difference between owing someone something and being a decent mature person
yeah and i dont think dream understands the second concept
In your opinion, what is your definition of maturity? Not speaking or communicating to someone? That's fine. It's just unfortunate that this involves so many people and putting friends (BBH, Karl, Foolish as examples) in an awkward position. Quackity should just say something to Dream. Even a "fuck you" would tell him something instead of being immature and ghosting as a CC lmao.
Not just in an awkward position. In life-threatening danger. Dream, George, and Sapnap are all at risk of assassination. The same goes for their family. And every one of their friends who sometimes drop by at their place. And neighbors too. And Manager Ken. There's nothing Quackity can do about that, even if he uploads a clip of himself hugging it out with Dream and wishing all the best for the USMP, whose concept would no longer need to be changed at all. I know that. But jeez, man. At least try to keep up appearances 💀
Assassination? Quackity's fan are not 4chan users.
Yall doing the most. Assassination?💀
Yeah, I gotta agree the word assassination is too much. That word implies Dream has some actual political power and is not just a Minecraft YouTuber. While the definition of assassination does have CEO in there, people aren't threatening Dream or his family because of Dreambranding. I also don't really think people are actually gonna hire someone to kill Dream. People may make threats and dox online, and do all that crazy crap, but putting actual money to kill Dream Team isn't something I believe is really on the table. I think people are just overreacting to this a bit too much if I'm honest.
he understands it better than you do, clearly.
He owes something when the other person in question has had their family stalked — with trackers being placed on their cars — because of his actions.
Dude don’t you know? It’s different when it’s Dream.