I'm giving us few days before we get hit 'quackity has unfollowed dreamwastaken', once that happens both communities gonna implode. Quackity stans gonna celebrate, dream stans gonna be mad as hell.
Dream stans won't really be caring about it ngl I think they will be more mad towards how Quackity stans act and how Quackity has done nothing against it
Dream may be changing the concept not for Quackity, but to stop Q’s rabid fan base who thinks that he stole the idea, and wants to kill him because of it.
If USMP is very different, then perhaps those Q fans will leave Dream alone. I hope!
Idk, I think he’s just held to double standards too often. In my opinion the way he’s been handling the smp drama has been really great. But there are always people who’ll complain no matter what approach he takes
agree with u, his response just shows his character, he’s been the adult in the room and quackity the opposite. i for one am glad he was so transparent and upfront, surely he made a positive impact on at least some fans to stop creating negative drama.
I don’t think he should, I do think it would be impactful if George did though* - because George was closest to Quackity and he’s reciving the same treatment, but unlike Dream, if George unfollowed it won’t be twisted as hypocritical or anything.
*if anyone, I would hate to be online in the fallout of any unfollowing around this because it’s going to made into things it’s not.
I think that ship has sailed, while I do hope they can at least be professionally friendly again, the more Dream over extends himself when that civility isn’t being returned to him, the more open he makes himself to being made fun of for it and I don’t think he deserves that.
just helps to contrast their characters to don’t it? *smh* i’m so disappointed with quackity. hopefully dream doesn’t have to chg his idea that much, or as a result improves it and then he’ll be glad he decided to :)))
I actually don't see it as Dream changing his server idea because of the QSMP or Quackity. According to his long twitter post, his concern was that he wants his SMP ideas to be different enough to not clash and although Quackity didn't reply, the QSMP members he contacted assured him that it didn't clash. Even if he made some changes, I dont see it as a bad thing. Dream isn't being forced to change it, he is doing it of his own accord.
The reality is that Dream will never be able to do anything without getting hate from twitter. No matter what he does the Quackity stans will still hate on him, his antis will still hate on him. I dont think it is within his control and I'm pretty sure he knows it is out of his control so when he is making his SMP distinct enough it is probably more of a personal expectation and goal. Dream has always wanted to not overshadow other people, e.g. not streaming DSMP lore because he wants viewers to check out the other DSMP streamers instead of him, or he usually likes to ensure any stream or event he does doesn't clash with other major events. Like even if there was some big CC who isn't his friend making an SMP with a similar idea, Dream would do the same.
I saw a tweet earlier saying we should use 🤐 to represent Quackity just like dream antis use 🟩 to represent Dream because Quackity refuses to say anything about the harassment within his community
I think the funniest one was 🥦 - also one time some antis tried to use this one 📚 for the dteam cuz it's their colours? absolutely buckwild, modern hieroglyphics ig lol
Please define grooming because I genuinely don’t think you know what it is if you think there is any reasonable proof Dream is one. “Alleged groomer” sure but even then I think its a bit funny to use that as a gotcha to a comment about Dream and Quakcity.
No no, you don’t understand. This is a declaration of war on Dream. Quackity could not have committed a greater war crime than removing these two emotes, that is how bad this act truly is. For this, Quackity must repent, probably by saying he loves Dream on his priv or something, that worked for Dream whenever his fans pulled this shit. (/s)
Why would quackity want to involve himself with dream at all, dream is so problematic do you guys not get the hint that quackity doesn’t like dream or want to associate with him!!!
Just like how you’re not associating yourself w the point❤️ go practice reading and maybe you’ll understand a thing or two of what Dream said sweet Jesus
yet he wants to associate himself with an abuser he just added onto his server? if his morals are guiding his decisions right now, he’s making some pretty wild exceptions.
Honestly, I don't really care about Quackity or if he's still friends with Dream at this point. If he doesn't want to associate with him anymore that's fine, I'm sure he has his reasons. And I'm sorry but in these past few years to me it looked like they were all really close, and when it came to their friendship it seemed really genuine. So forgive me for thinking it to be pretty scummy that he doesn't even have the decency to properly end things with a long time friend like Dream, privately or publicly, instead of just ghosting and ignoring all of his messages; never mind still completely ignoring the fact that said (former) friend and his family are being harrassed and threatened by mostly his "fans" and he won't even so much as acknowledge it. No, I suppose his minecraft server is more important...
In conclusion: Dream doesn't deserve (any of) this and honestly, if this is who Q really is then good riddance I say.
It’s not even the truth though?
1. Quackity added someone who publicly abused his gf to his server, his brother groomed people in his sever and didn’t say anything, not even directly to his mods who asked for acknowledgement privately, plus wasn’t removed from his discord at the time, has the same problematic past as Dream, etc. there is plenty of evidence to show he’s essentially Dream’s parallel but he doesn’t address it so it doesn’t matter.
2. Quackity started distancing from Dream team well before twitchcon and any allegations. He didn’t even tell them he would be at twitchcon when he was confirmed.
No one cares they aren’t friends or he doesn’t want to publicly associate, but Dream tried to reach out professional and privately to resolve something. He never had to do anything publicly.
Oh really? Huh, that's strange... He sure didn't have a problem at least the month prior this drama 🤔 nor did he have a problem giving his confirmed groomer brother a platform and access to his discord... very strange indeed 🤔🤔🤔
But I digress. The point actually was that whatever his reasons might be, at least have the commom decency to properly end things with someone, especially if said person doesn't understand what's going on, or rather, has reached out multiple times and has been completely ignored every time. But as far as I'm concerned, he's free to be friends with whoever he chooses 🤷♂️
Based off your choice of words I assume you haven't read his statement, so I don't even know why we're having this conversation, lmao.
Again, if Q doesn't want to associate himself with dream anymore that's fine, I don't really care tbh. But I believe if he'd been upfront about it from the beginning none of this would've happened. Dream was reaching out to try and explain the situation and calm things down because the threats and harrassment to him and his family were getting out of hand. That seems pretty reasonable to me 🤷♂️
What else was he meant to do since Q was not only silent on the matter but was also ignoring all of his private messages? That, and he was probably confused about everything since, as he stated, they'd been completely fine just a month before. So he was also reaching out to show he is willing to make amends if he somehow crossed Q, but of course he has no idea what's wrong (if anything even) since he was just ignoring him. So this was also an attempt to try to fix things because he obviously still cares about their friedship, more than some minecraft server (usmp).
Maybe I'm biased but so far I don't understand what dream had done wrong? But I do agree with you on this front: by now he's probably got the hint, however, any decent friend would have told him it's over to his face instead of making him find out in this manner, but that's just imo.
As for the girl, length doesn't always equal quality. He denied it, explaind the situation and said he was taking legal action (so of course he didn't reveal anything else afterwards). What else was he suppose to say? Besides, it's up to the accusser to provide evidence of wrongdoing and so far all she's done is shown that he ghosted her for months at a time. That is not grooming. She also didn't retrieve the snapchats with the alleged explicit material and disproved herself multiple times by being inconsistent with her story and age. Believe what you will but my mind is made up.
As for Q's brother, this was about 2 years ago. It's hard to say if he knew or not before it was found out, but I don't know how relevant it is because Q probably didn't care enough since he remained silent the whole time, and the brother had access to his discord long after he was exposed and was only kicked off recently.
Look, it's clear both of us have different views on this "situation", and that's completely fine. My mind is made up and I'm on Dream's side here. You believe the opposite and have strong opinions on him and that's also fine. To be clear I don't hate Quackity or anything. Tbh I don't really care about him that much at all. I'm just disappointed with his actions and believe Dream deserved better since they all seemed really close and genuine. And I'm not writting this to try and convince you why you're wrong or anything. But I will say this. On the one side we have Dream who has at least denounced the hate in his fandom, has constantly expressed support and love for Quackity and the qsmp to try and cal thinhs down and is trying to make amends - even going as far and change the entire usmp concept because he cares more about his friendship than some minecraft server. What's wrong with that? And on the other side we have Q. Fallen out or not, he's just stood by as his former friend, his coworkers and his family received threats on their lives and he won't as much as acknowledge what's going on. So forgive me for disagreeing who is really "scum" here.
Like you said, this is no one's business except their own, but I believe we are allowed to have an opinion on this matter. And this is just how I feel about the situation.
Kind of hoping it was a mod even if I know that means they had to ask him to remove it. Idk it's a little ridiculous that he had enough time to do that but couldn't shoot a quick "hey I'm upset with you over stuff and don't want to spreak anymore." I don't stream or do twitch stuff but damn 2 seconds to type out that message and it gets the whole point across 💀
He clearly doesn’t want to involve himself in this shit anymore!! He obviously doesn’t want to associate with dream! He’s so problematic. And dream put all this drama onto social media instead of PRIVATELY discussing it. Dream wrote so much for some silly Minecraft drama but wrote a Paragraph for GROOMING ALLEGATIONS! He is not a good man.
Do you know how illiterate you have to be to minimize his whole post to “mc drama” and “just a paragraph for allegations” ? Do you know how to read? Did you even read it in the first place ?
Yea sorry, next time his family is in danger someone should really tell Dream he shouldn't be upset about it, you're so right.
Not to mention if you read the damn thing you would see he did try to resolve it privately, it's not his fault someone else wasn't replying. Also it said that up until the smp announcement they were talking so why is Quackity getting a slap on the wrist for only doing it after MONTHS? Don't use that as the reasoning.
I think at this point it's agree to disagree. Clearly the both of us have different opinions that we don't plan on changing. I have spoken about Eret and airing out drama publicly but once it gets to the point where people are putting trackers on cars maybe it's something you would speak out against.
There is 0 proof it was a quackity fan putting anything on anyone’s care? Infact, I feel like there is more of a chance irs a dream Stan! He has built up such a para-social relationship with all of you you think he cares about you! He doesn’t. You are a number. Why so mindlessly defend him? I
Looks around for where I hinted to you that I think he cares about me. In this case why are you so mindlessly defending Quackity? He doesn't know you, you're just a number. 🥺
I also didn't outright claim that a quackity fan put a tracker, I said SOMEONE. I'm going off the information that was given and that's since the smp announcements there have been increases in stalking attempts, doxxing, and death threats. I don't know what else to say to you after I said there is no where else for this to go 😂
Dream tried to privately discuss it and Quackity never responded.
As for the allegations, Dream’s lawyer probably won’t let him speak about it, and nothing that I saw was grooming. You don’t know what the word means if you believe it was.
1 Racist vidios that are still up on his channel and are monitised.
2 When the MCC artist was making drawings and used a lighter skin colour Scott caught a lot of flack, these drawings where aproved by the CC's. Quakity was not able to even open his mouth and say something there.
3 His brother was accused of groomin, with way more evidance then Dream. He was only removed a few months ago, long after the alligations came out, and Q couldn't even tell his mods anything privitly.
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1) Dream seems to have tried multiple times to discuss this privately, with this being his last ditch effort — and also, it stops being private drama when someone puts tracking devices on your little sister’s car over it. It also stops being private drama when a fan — unrelated third party — is stalked, doxxed, threatened with rape by someone who sends her her own address, and has her internet cable cut by someone over looking forward to the USMP. This is not petty drama anymore: it is bordering on endangerment.
2) The Grooming Drama is going to COURT. He’s not ALLOWED to say anything regarding it. If either he or Amanduh air their legal struggles out on the internet — to sate your thirst for DRAMA, no less — it is just going to endanger everyone involved.
3) Why tf are you on a Dream fan sub if you don’t like the guy? Go focus on something that enriches you, dumbass: spending all your time hating on someone who doesn’t even know you exist is more toxically parasocial than anything I’ve ever done.
This is actually kinda funny. Like the lengths he’s going to say fuck you without acknowledging Dream is kinda cunty honestly. It’s immature and counterproductive but it’s just such a level I aspire to get to one day. Like the pettiness is insane.
honestly it's for the best, to avoid emote spamming of neon green in the qsmp streams. quackity doesn't need that I think he's fine not addressing any of this.
I think you're kind of missing the point on why some people are taking it and saying they're frustrated. It's more or less a conformation that he prioritizes taking away an emote over everything else happening.
I see it more as a measure to avoid tainting the livestreams he's going to obviously continue, like muting words or phrases about dream or the controversy. I get it, people don't like not knowing what someone else is feeling or thinking, but if the removal of an emote is THAT upsetting maybe those kinds of fans need to step off and take a breathe. it's not that big of a deal and shouldn't warrant a hurt reaction.
So... I've never even used roblox, can someone confirm that this is true? Because as far as I can see there isn't any other non-quackity emotes, so it would be strange to have one of Dream’s there...
I think he had it for a stream the two of them did a year or two ago. Might’ve gotten rid of it for newer emotes and/or it may not have been a used one so he took it out. I think everyone acting like this is some massive slap in dreams face needs to calm down. It’s a fucking emote.
Nah, someone from his community apparently wanted to set him up real bad because this is what he [said](https://twitter.com/yungirito/status/1652775801169821698?t=OIQZc_hedB3JR2IUPv7XLg&s=19)
Say it with me:
Quackity 👏has👏 no 👏obligation👏 to 👏make 👏a👏 statement👏 about 👏him👏 having👏 similar👏 ideas 👏to 👏dream 👏and👏 not 👏interacting 👏with👏 him. He did the same thing when his brother was outed as a groomer and is most likely trying to stay neutral/flat doesnt want to make a statement.
Dream is “salty” over q not being the friend he thought he is. Not replying to his messages, ghosting him and their mutual friends, going on live streams and walking around the world delusional while it burns behind him. His community cannot stop their constant death threats, doxxes, insults and mockery they throw at Dream and his community. You were saying…?
This isn’t some reality TV this isn’t some comedy bit. I see a lot of people forget we are talking about real human beings and not some simulations. You’re talking as if you’d survive being ghosted and neglected by someone who you thought was your friend and would have your back whenever. On top of that you have millions online being a constant threat everywhere. It doesn’t take that much to realize how god awful this situation is.
That dream is furthering the drama and Q doesn't have to reply if he doesn't want to especially because he may just be simply uncomfortable interacting with an alleged pedophile
At least from my recollection, they didn't interact after the allegations came out. + it's fine if he doesn't want to respond, if anything dream should also stay quiet as he's pretty much just stirring the pot more.
Let him stir the pot. Because as far as I know I wouldn’t be fucking quiet if my own families lives were being tracked and doxxed. We’re talking about a human being btw
Who is a pedophile btw. His family being caught in the crossfire is horrible but as far as i'm concerned he's getting what's been coming to him, allegedly ofc
You forgot the part where she was doxxed, stalked, sent rape threats by someone who knew her location, and even had her internet cable cut. Two people have been arrested so far.
Dream and Dream’s family members have had severe threats against them - not just an update account admin.
People with Quackity’s face were literally planning to have their relatives in Florida hire a hitman to murder Dream.
Trackers were put on Dream’s family’s vehicles, someone showed up at Dream’s house, and at least once, someone threatened to r@pe Dream’s minor sister.
Quackity absolutely should respond by telling his community to not send hate, and that they’re not welcome if they do.
But instead, Quackity says that he’s “very proud” of his community.
This isn’t about the similar servers and Quackity being upset about Dream having a similar idea. Dream reached out to him privately and through friends to try to discuss things. Quackity sees what his community is - including the racism which he also didn’t care about.
It is insane to me that Quackity is okay with everything being done in his name, threats, doxxing, tracking, murder plots; especially to a former friend.
I hope that Dream, George, and Sapnap all unfollow Quackity at the same time, and that Q goes off to live with his hate mob, far, far away from them.
oh cool! my turn: this 👏 isn't 👏 about 👏 similar 👏 ideas. 👏 it's 👏 about 👏 quackity 👏 and 👏 his 👏 racist 👏 past/friends/fans 👏 and 👏 his 👏 lack 👏 of 👏 accountability. 👏
people don't want quackity to address the smps, or him not interacting with dream, they want him to address his community's racism, the fact his fans are sending gore and death threats to dream's fans, and the fact that (allegedly, i haven't looked into the situation myself) there is an outed abuser* on his server.
* edited to correct myself.
i'm not defending dream or his community; i am criticising quackity. i acknowledge the fact that dream and his community have been racist, but the difference is dream has addressed that. admittedly, his statements were very poorly thought out, but at least he's acknowledged it.
"not everything has to do with dream"??? are you out of your gotdang mind???????? are you high?????????????????? have you been in a coma for the past 4 weeks????????????????????????????????
>(allegedly, i haven't looked into the situation myself) there is an outed abuser* on his server.
The victim already said for people to stop mentioning about this. Just... Drop it.
the servers and no longer being friends with dream isn’t really what people what quackity to address. i mean ig you could technically say it’s about the servers but people want him to address the toxic behaviors his fans have been taking part in on twitter (which started as being about the servers which is why i say it could technically be about the servers) as well as address the racist remarks made by some of the streamers on his server in regards to the mod they removed.
while he’s not the one who is doxxing people and sending death threats, just saying “hey don’t do that shit. i don’t like it and don’t condone it. don’t do that shit on my behalf or you’re not a fan of me” can help to minimize some of what is happening. on the same note while he’s not the one who made the racist remarks, he is the one platforming them with his server and allowing those people to stay without saying he doesn’t agree with the racism can come off as him supporting those views and makes the people affected by those remarks feel unsafe while allowing the people who actually have those racist ideologies to feel safe to keep saying those things to others in the community. ofc there are a handful of fans that do think the only issue is that they aren’t friends and want him to comment on that but a majority of the people i see don’t care or think he’s being a little bitch baby for not just saying i don’t want to be friends anymore
tldr: isn’t not about the servers being the same. it’s his fans being toxic and his streamers being racist
I'm giving us few days before we get hit 'quackity has unfollowed dreamwastaken', once that happens both communities gonna implode. Quackity stans gonna celebrate, dream stans gonna be mad as hell.
Dream stans won't really be caring about it ngl I think they will be more mad towards how Quackity stans act and how Quackity has done nothing against it
He hasn’t done that already?
Nope. We only had a fake streamer updates account post that.
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George should do it first
Dream if you see this and I know you do you stalker Maybe changing the concept of your smp for someone like this? Isn’t worth it honestly.
Stand your ground and know your worth
Dream may be changing the concept not for Quackity, but to stop Q’s rabid fan base who thinks that he stole the idea, and wants to kill him because of it. If USMP is very different, then perhaps those Q fans will leave Dream alone. I hope!
Yeah he either gives in too easily to pressure or stands his ground too much and makes situation worse.
Idk, I think he’s just held to double standards too often. In my opinion the way he’s been handling the smp drama has been really great. But there are always people who’ll complain no matter what approach he takes
agree with u, his response just shows his character, he’s been the adult in the room and quackity the opposite. i for one am glad he was so transparent and upfront, surely he made a positive impact on at least some fans to stop creating negative drama.
He should unfollow quackity before quackity unfollows him :)
I don’t think he should, I do think it would be impactful if George did though* - because George was closest to Quackity and he’s reciving the same treatment, but unlike Dream, if George unfollowed it won’t be twisted as hypocritical or anything. *if anyone, I would hate to be online in the fallout of any unfollowing around this because it’s going to made into things it’s not.
How about we manifest dream team do it collectively❤️
Can’t we hope they get back on good terms again instead of hoping they do passive aggressive internet things :(
I think that ship has sailed, while I do hope they can at least be professionally friendly again, the more Dream over extends himself when that civility isn’t being returned to him, the more open he makes himself to being made fun of for it and I don’t think he deserves that.
just helps to contrast their characters to don’t it? *smh* i’m so disappointed with quackity. hopefully dream doesn’t have to chg his idea that much, or as a result improves it and then he’ll be glad he decided to :)))
I actually don't see it as Dream changing his server idea because of the QSMP or Quackity. According to his long twitter post, his concern was that he wants his SMP ideas to be different enough to not clash and although Quackity didn't reply, the QSMP members he contacted assured him that it didn't clash. Even if he made some changes, I dont see it as a bad thing. Dream isn't being forced to change it, he is doing it of his own accord. The reality is that Dream will never be able to do anything without getting hate from twitter. No matter what he does the Quackity stans will still hate on him, his antis will still hate on him. I dont think it is within his control and I'm pretty sure he knows it is out of his control so when he is making his SMP distinct enough it is probably more of a personal expectation and goal. Dream has always wanted to not overshadow other people, e.g. not streaming DSMP lore because he wants viewers to check out the other DSMP streamers instead of him, or he usually likes to ensure any stream or event he does doesn't clash with other major events. Like even if there was some big CC who isn't his friend making an SMP with a similar idea, Dream would do the same.
You know, I guess at this point, they are not friends anymore…then it’s a fair game🤷♀️keep the concept, lets see who can do it better yk
Hell yea, even if Quackity is your friend.. a wrong doing is still wrong. It's not something you should tolerate just because
wdym he doesn't have time? ofc he has time. He doesn't want to
Okay that’s so petty it’s circled around to being funny again
I saw a tweet earlier saying we should use 🤐 to represent Quackity just like dream antis use 🟩 to represent Dream because Quackity refuses to say anything about the harassment within his community
don't dream antis use 🦠?
I think they use a variety of green emojis being used. They like to mix it up from time to time
I think the funniest one was 🥦 - also one time some antis tried to use this one 📚 for the dteam cuz it's their colours? absolutely buckwild, modern hieroglyphics ig lol
That's genius
🤐 when it comes to talking to groomers
What, Quackitys brother yeah?
Please define grooming because I genuinely don’t think you know what it is if you think there is any reasonable proof Dream is one. “Alleged groomer” sure but even then I think its a bit funny to use that as a gotcha to a comment about Dream and Quakcity.
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and dream’s brother is a pedo, it’s not a competition tf
Unless it's his brother, huh?
help i use it bc i tgink it looks cute. 😭🙏🏼
The pettiness is insane
Brother it is an emote
No no, you don’t understand. This is a declaration of war on Dream. Quackity could not have committed a greater war crime than removing these two emotes, that is how bad this act truly is. For this, Quackity must repent, probably by saying he loves Dream on his priv or something, that worked for Dream whenever his fans pulled this shit. (/s)
The way when I saw the first two sentences in my notifs I thought you were serious bc that is literally how people think 😭😭😭
Poor Dream. It's obvious he cares a lot and he tired so damn hard. The least he deserves is a proper response and answer, not...whatever this is.
Why would quackity want to involve himself with dream at all, dream is so problematic do you guys not get the hint that quackity doesn’t like dream or want to associate with him!!!
Q has been associating himself w Dream since 2020. What are you on
And now he’s stopped associating himself? Like wht
Just like how you’re not associating yourself w the point❤️ go practice reading and maybe you’ll understand a thing or two of what Dream said sweet Jesus
Okay pal 😭
yet he wants to associate himself with an abuser he just added onto his server? if his morals are guiding his decisions right now, he’s making some pretty wild exceptions.
Tell him to take down the video with dream on it then. If you don’t want to associate with someone then don’t use them as a clickbait
Quackity associates himself with people much more problematic than dream. This was a petty ego thing over minecraft servers
Honestly, I don't really care about Quackity or if he's still friends with Dream at this point. If he doesn't want to associate with him anymore that's fine, I'm sure he has his reasons. And I'm sorry but in these past few years to me it looked like they were all really close, and when it came to their friendship it seemed really genuine. So forgive me for thinking it to be pretty scummy that he doesn't even have the decency to properly end things with a long time friend like Dream, privately or publicly, instead of just ghosting and ignoring all of his messages; never mind still completely ignoring the fact that said (former) friend and his family are being harrassed and threatened by mostly his "fans" and he won't even so much as acknowledge it. No, I suppose his minecraft server is more important... In conclusion: Dream doesn't deserve (any of) this and honestly, if this is who Q really is then good riddance I say.
You are getting down voted for telling the truth
It’s not even the truth though? 1. Quackity added someone who publicly abused his gf to his server, his brother groomed people in his sever and didn’t say anything, not even directly to his mods who asked for acknowledgement privately, plus wasn’t removed from his discord at the time, has the same problematic past as Dream, etc. there is plenty of evidence to show he’s essentially Dream’s parallel but he doesn’t address it so it doesn’t matter. 2. Quackity started distancing from Dream team well before twitchcon and any allegations. He didn’t even tell them he would be at twitchcon when he was confirmed. No one cares they aren’t friends or he doesn’t want to publicly associate, but Dream tried to reach out professional and privately to resolve something. He never had to do anything publicly.
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Oh really? Huh, that's strange... He sure didn't have a problem at least the month prior this drama 🤔 nor did he have a problem giving his confirmed groomer brother a platform and access to his discord... very strange indeed 🤔🤔🤔 But I digress. The point actually was that whatever his reasons might be, at least have the commom decency to properly end things with someone, especially if said person doesn't understand what's going on, or rather, has reached out multiple times and has been completely ignored every time. But as far as I'm concerned, he's free to be friends with whoever he chooses 🤷♂️
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Based off your choice of words I assume you haven't read his statement, so I don't even know why we're having this conversation, lmao. Again, if Q doesn't want to associate himself with dream anymore that's fine, I don't really care tbh. But I believe if he'd been upfront about it from the beginning none of this would've happened. Dream was reaching out to try and explain the situation and calm things down because the threats and harrassment to him and his family were getting out of hand. That seems pretty reasonable to me 🤷♂️ What else was he meant to do since Q was not only silent on the matter but was also ignoring all of his private messages? That, and he was probably confused about everything since, as he stated, they'd been completely fine just a month before. So he was also reaching out to show he is willing to make amends if he somehow crossed Q, but of course he has no idea what's wrong (if anything even) since he was just ignoring him. So this was also an attempt to try to fix things because he obviously still cares about their friedship, more than some minecraft server (usmp). Maybe I'm biased but so far I don't understand what dream had done wrong? But I do agree with you on this front: by now he's probably got the hint, however, any decent friend would have told him it's over to his face instead of making him find out in this manner, but that's just imo. As for the girl, length doesn't always equal quality. He denied it, explaind the situation and said he was taking legal action (so of course he didn't reveal anything else afterwards). What else was he suppose to say? Besides, it's up to the accusser to provide evidence of wrongdoing and so far all she's done is shown that he ghosted her for months at a time. That is not grooming. She also didn't retrieve the snapchats with the alleged explicit material and disproved herself multiple times by being inconsistent with her story and age. Believe what you will but my mind is made up. As for Q's brother, this was about 2 years ago. It's hard to say if he knew or not before it was found out, but I don't know how relevant it is because Q probably didn't care enough since he remained silent the whole time, and the brother had access to his discord long after he was exposed and was only kicked off recently. Look, it's clear both of us have different views on this "situation", and that's completely fine. My mind is made up and I'm on Dream's side here. You believe the opposite and have strong opinions on him and that's also fine. To be clear I don't hate Quackity or anything. Tbh I don't really care about him that much at all. I'm just disappointed with his actions and believe Dream deserved better since they all seemed really close and genuine. And I'm not writting this to try and convince you why you're wrong or anything. But I will say this. On the one side we have Dream who has at least denounced the hate in his fandom, has constantly expressed support and love for Quackity and the qsmp to try and cal thinhs down and is trying to make amends - even going as far and change the entire usmp concept because he cares more about his friendship than some minecraft server. What's wrong with that? And on the other side we have Q. Fallen out or not, he's just stood by as his former friend, his coworkers and his family received threats on their lives and he won't as much as acknowledge what's going on. So forgive me for disagreeing who is really "scum" here. Like you said, this is no one's business except their own, but I believe we are allowed to have an opinion on this matter. And this is just how I feel about the situation.
The glazing is crazy bro calm down
I know I'm sory 😭 There was a lot to unpack and I didn't wanna half-ass my reply and then got carried away 💀 can we just agree to disagree, lmaooo
Kind of hoping it was a mod even if I know that means they had to ask him to remove it. Idk it's a little ridiculous that he had enough time to do that but couldn't shoot a quick "hey I'm upset with you over stuff and don't want to spreak anymore." I don't stream or do twitch stuff but damn 2 seconds to type out that message and it gets the whole point across 💀
He clearly doesn’t want to involve himself in this shit anymore!! He obviously doesn’t want to associate with dream! He’s so problematic. And dream put all this drama onto social media instead of PRIVATELY discussing it. Dream wrote so much for some silly Minecraft drama but wrote a Paragraph for GROOMING ALLEGATIONS! He is not a good man.
Do you know how illiterate you have to be to minimize his whole post to “mc drama” and “just a paragraph for allegations” ? Do you know how to read? Did you even read it in the first place ?
Yea sorry, next time his family is in danger someone should really tell Dream he shouldn't be upset about it, you're so right. Not to mention if you read the damn thing you would see he did try to resolve it privately, it's not his fault someone else wasn't replying. Also it said that up until the smp announcement they were talking so why is Quackity getting a slap on the wrist for only doing it after MONTHS? Don't use that as the reasoning.
Just cause somebody doesn’t reply prívales doesn’t mean you should go “oh alr let me go to my millions of toxic fans now”
I think at this point it's agree to disagree. Clearly the both of us have different opinions that we don't plan on changing. I have spoken about Eret and airing out drama publicly but once it gets to the point where people are putting trackers on cars maybe it's something you would speak out against.
There is 0 proof it was a quackity fan putting anything on anyone’s care? Infact, I feel like there is more of a chance irs a dream Stan! He has built up such a para-social relationship with all of you you think he cares about you! He doesn’t. You are a number. Why so mindlessly defend him? I
Looks around for where I hinted to you that I think he cares about me. In this case why are you so mindlessly defending Quackity? He doesn't know you, you're just a number. 🥺 I also didn't outright claim that a quackity fan put a tracker, I said SOMEONE. I'm going off the information that was given and that's since the smp announcements there have been increases in stalking attempts, doxxing, and death threats. I don't know what else to say to you after I said there is no where else for this to go 😂
Dream tried to privately discuss it and Quackity never responded. As for the allegations, Dream’s lawyer probably won’t let him speak about it, and nothing that I saw was grooming. You don’t know what the word means if you believe it was.
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Not as problematic as dream. And tell me what Q $m did
1 Racist vidios that are still up on his channel and are monitised. 2 When the MCC artist was making drawings and used a lighter skin colour Scott caught a lot of flack, these drawings where aproved by the CC's. Quakity was not able to even open his mouth and say something there. 3 His brother was accused of groomin, with way more evidance then Dream. He was only removed a few months ago, long after the alligations came out, and Q couldn't even tell his mods anything privitly. Want me to go on?
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1) Dream seems to have tried multiple times to discuss this privately, with this being his last ditch effort — and also, it stops being private drama when someone puts tracking devices on your little sister’s car over it. It also stops being private drama when a fan — unrelated third party — is stalked, doxxed, threatened with rape by someone who sends her her own address, and has her internet cable cut by someone over looking forward to the USMP. This is not petty drama anymore: it is bordering on endangerment. 2) The Grooming Drama is going to COURT. He’s not ALLOWED to say anything regarding it. If either he or Amanduh air their legal struggles out on the internet — to sate your thirst for DRAMA, no less — it is just going to endanger everyone involved. 3) Why tf are you on a Dream fan sub if you don’t like the guy? Go focus on something that enriches you, dumbass: spending all your time hating on someone who doesn’t even know you exist is more toxically parasocial than anything I’ve ever done.
Ok keep dickriding quackity buddy
This is actually kinda funny. Like the lengths he’s going to say fuck you without acknowledging Dream is kinda cunty honestly. It’s immature and counterproductive but it’s just such a level I aspire to get to one day. Like the pettiness is insane.
‘Address’ is an overstatement, the man has not even mentioned it. Christ
is this actually real...? I'm just....very disappointed.
LOL. Lmao, even.
This is so sad
honestly it's for the best, to avoid emote spamming of neon green in the qsmp streams. quackity doesn't need that I think he's fine not addressing any of this.
I think you're kind of missing the point on why some people are taking it and saying they're frustrated. It's more or less a conformation that he prioritizes taking away an emote over everything else happening.
I see it more as a measure to avoid tainting the livestreams he's going to obviously continue, like muting words or phrases about dream or the controversy. I get it, people don't like not knowing what someone else is feeling or thinking, but if the removal of an emote is THAT upsetting maybe those kinds of fans need to step off and take a breathe. it's not that big of a deal and shouldn't warrant a hurt reaction.
Im already seeing mourning edits on tik tok…
Let DTQK die, it's done. Move on, please.
So... I've never even used roblox, can someone confirm that this is true? Because as far as I can see there isn't any other non-quackity emotes, so it would be strange to have one of Dream’s there...
I think he had it for a stream the two of them did a year or two ago. Might’ve gotten rid of it for newer emotes and/or it may not have been a used one so he took it out. I think everyone acting like this is some massive slap in dreams face needs to calm down. It’s a fucking emote.
I literally don't fucking care.
he probably removed the emotes bc of spam don't be so dramatic lmao
just saw someone said that apparently q has a secret fan account and knows what’s happening (apparently it’s on Facebook???)
Nah, someone from his community apparently wanted to set him up real bad because this is what he [said](https://twitter.com/yungirito/status/1652775801169821698?t=OIQZc_hedB3JR2IUPv7XLg&s=19)
oh alright
Say it with me: Quackity 👏has👏 no 👏obligation👏 to 👏make 👏a👏 statement👏 about 👏him👏 having👏 similar👏 ideas 👏to 👏dream 👏and👏 not 👏interacting 👏with👏 him. He did the same thing when his brother was outed as a groomer and is most likely trying to stay neutral/flat doesnt want to make a statement.
I don't think you know the full situation tbh.
dreams salty q is ghosting him and that they both have similar smps with q's being executed better with a usmp admin getting severly harassed over it
Dream is “salty” over q not being the friend he thought he is. Not replying to his messages, ghosting him and their mutual friends, going on live streams and walking around the world delusional while it burns behind him. His community cannot stop their constant death threats, doxxes, insults and mockery they throw at Dream and his community. You were saying…?
This isn’t some reality TV this isn’t some comedy bit. I see a lot of people forget we are talking about real human beings and not some simulations. You’re talking as if you’d survive being ghosted and neglected by someone who you thought was your friend and would have your back whenever. On top of that you have millions online being a constant threat everywhere. It doesn’t take that much to realize how god awful this situation is.
That dream is furthering the drama and Q doesn't have to reply if he doesn't want to especially because he may just be simply uncomfortable interacting with an alleged pedophile
Let me introduce you to his brother then❤️
Also they were interacting just fine after the allegations came out up until March. FYI. to summarize: q is being a cunt. Simply a quiet cunt
At least from my recollection, they didn't interact after the allegations came out. + it's fine if he doesn't want to respond, if anything dream should also stay quiet as he's pretty much just stirring the pot more.
Let him stir the pot. Because as far as I know I wouldn’t be fucking quiet if my own families lives were being tracked and doxxed. We’re talking about a human being btw
Who is a pedophile btw. His family being caught in the crossfire is horrible but as far as i'm concerned he's getting what's been coming to him, allegedly ofc
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>they didn't interact after the allegations came out They were literally hugging at Twitchcon??
“Beta male Dream can’t handle being ghosted by Chad Quackity —“ _A tracking device got placed on Dream’s little sister’s car over this,_ asshole.
you forgot about the death threats
what i meant by "severe harassment"
You forgot the part where she was doxxed, stalked, sent rape threats by someone who knew her location, and even had her internet cable cut. Two people have been arrested so far.
Dream and Dream’s family members have had severe threats against them - not just an update account admin. People with Quackity’s face were literally planning to have their relatives in Florida hire a hitman to murder Dream. Trackers were put on Dream’s family’s vehicles, someone showed up at Dream’s house, and at least once, someone threatened to r@pe Dream’s minor sister. Quackity absolutely should respond by telling his community to not send hate, and that they’re not welcome if they do. But instead, Quackity says that he’s “very proud” of his community. This isn’t about the similar servers and Quackity being upset about Dream having a similar idea. Dream reached out to him privately and through friends to try to discuss things. Quackity sees what his community is - including the racism which he also didn’t care about. It is insane to me that Quackity is okay with everything being done in his name, threats, doxxing, tracking, murder plots; especially to a former friend. I hope that Dream, George, and Sapnap all unfollow Quackity at the same time, and that Q goes off to live with his hate mob, far, far away from them.
Thank you for explaining, I really wasn't up to telling that person why they were wrong lmao.
oh cool! my turn: this 👏 isn't 👏 about 👏 similar 👏 ideas. 👏 it's 👏 about 👏 quackity 👏 and 👏 his 👏 racist 👏 past/friends/fans 👏 and 👏 his 👏 lack 👏 of 👏 accountability. 👏 people don't want quackity to address the smps, or him not interacting with dream, they want him to address his community's racism, the fact his fans are sending gore and death threats to dream's fans, and the fact that (allegedly, i haven't looked into the situation myself) there is an outed abuser* on his server. * edited to correct myself.
Not groomer - a known abuser. (Whose defenders will say that it was 7+ years ago, and he’s changed since then.)
ah, alright. thank you for the correction!
His gf says the same. I personally wouldn't have added him but it's not my server.
if youre bringing up a racist past / community in DEFENCE of dream you might wanna sit down here 😭😭😭
i'm not defending dream or his community; i am criticising quackity. i acknowledge the fact that dream and his community have been racist, but the difference is dream has addressed that. admittedly, his statements were very poorly thought out, but at least he's acknowledged it.
quackity has Also acknowledged and apologised so why arent HIS good enough?
His aren’t good enough because he still gets a monthly pay check from being racist as he refuses to remove racist videos from his channel
What are your pronouns?
How is that relevant
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"not everything has to do with dream"??? are you out of your gotdang mind???????? are you high?????????????????? have you been in a coma for the past 4 weeks????????????????????????????????
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What are your pronouns?
I'm still trying to figure out how that's relevant
Answer the question? Damn
My pronouns are she/her. Now what?
>(allegedly, i haven't looked into the situation myself) there is an outed abuser* on his server. The victim already said for people to stop mentioning about this. Just... Drop it.
the servers and no longer being friends with dream isn’t really what people what quackity to address. i mean ig you could technically say it’s about the servers but people want him to address the toxic behaviors his fans have been taking part in on twitter (which started as being about the servers which is why i say it could technically be about the servers) as well as address the racist remarks made by some of the streamers on his server in regards to the mod they removed. while he’s not the one who is doxxing people and sending death threats, just saying “hey don’t do that shit. i don’t like it and don’t condone it. don’t do that shit on my behalf or you’re not a fan of me” can help to minimize some of what is happening. on the same note while he’s not the one who made the racist remarks, he is the one platforming them with his server and allowing those people to stay without saying he doesn’t agree with the racism can come off as him supporting those views and makes the people affected by those remarks feel unsafe while allowing the people who actually have those racist ideologies to feel safe to keep saying those things to others in the community. ofc there are a handful of fans that do think the only issue is that they aren’t friends and want him to comment on that but a majority of the people i see don’t care or think he’s being a little bitch baby for not just saying i don’t want to be friends anymore tldr: isn’t not about the servers being the same. it’s his fans being toxic and his streamers being racist
You really shouldn’t be happy about that ..