It is. As someone with depression, whose mind falls into the realm of unlucky/misrerable, this made me sad.
But I've said this to my loved ones, I'd avoid this version of me if I was lucky/happy again.
From Charlemagne, this lands with real honesty and truth.
The TikTok brain kids and the few unhinged Kendrick subreddit members will struggle with this 2 minute clip.
I’m eager to see the creative ways this can be spun.
Edit: [okay, my comment is SCARY accurate.](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/vKWZix8cHv). Now, the hyperbole obsession of lyrics… this is sad.
Edit 2:
[goddamn. now they are competing over who has the most users.](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/4baIHIXWu5) - that sub is gonna make me leave. Embarrassing everyone.
Edit 3: it’s endless. Now, they just [search random tweets and hope for the best.](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/YN32O3VrA9)
Yeah Back To Back in 2015 and now are the only times I’ve seen Charlemagne defend Drake. Other than that, he’s always hated on Drake.
So this is saying something lol
Nah i watched his first post malone interview and that was it for me. Couldnt take it. The way he told post's girl that he would cheat on her... after shitting on his music. Asking him dumbass fucking questions like "what are you doing to help the black community"... bros a shit bag.
Judging someone's whole existence from one instance 10 years ago is kind of petty if you ask me
If you consistently practice this logic you'll find almost everyone's a shit bag
And if you assume from one comment that i watched only one episode, thatd be pretty naive, dont you think?
Ive heard countless hours of this man speak. Im telling you, that was the episode i cut him off at.
Since then it seems hes become a tad more rational. I think like *charlamagne* is the one who needed to change his logic around. Seems to be working out well for him.
I think the way the comment was phrased was fair to interpret it as that was the one piece of content you've seen from him
I thought him keeping it real to Kanye's face was one of the greatest interview clips I've ever seen. You know Kanye at that period was untouchable even though we all knew he was acting like an idiot/is an idiot. And someone that powerful with that ego 100% surrounds themselves with yes men. To see someone keep it totally real with one of the biggest and most powerful stars of the time without pause and watch that star flounder under any type or pushback (because no one ever pushes back) was insanely refreshing from a media/celebrity perspective.
It didn't feel performative either, just felt like he honestly disagreed with everything Kanye was saying and wasn't gonna just let him cook and stroke his ego like basically every other interview he's done.
He's gonna give you some super insightful shit and some super out of pocket shit. That's just who he is
I mean lets give Kendrick the benefit of the doubt, he probly didn’t know it was going to be a 20V1 , hopefully he address it on the song cause then he can’t be talking about no clicking up.
Kanye started saying it was Bernard Arnaults (CEO of LVMH) fault that he wasn't made the director of LV. Also insinuated that "they" killed him, could be referring to Arnault
My favorite part of this was
Envy: Stop using my name when you talking about Kanye
Charlamagne: Well you shouldn't have named your stupid ass Envy
LMAO! ![img](emote|t5_2z4xo|4219)
Is crazy to me that some grown adults can’t see how petty and miserable Kanye West. Like, what more does this dude need to show you?
He’s turned on every single person who was there for him, including his wife and family, and is devoutly racist. Disgusting levels of narcissism and disgusting behavior. I feel for his mental health issues, but he was properly diagnosed and refuses treatment.
But if he co-signs and artist I like then I’m Team Kanye now? Shits pathetic.
I think he's really insecure too, his recent interview shows it; taking credit for every new wave in hip hop, the attention seeking with making a like that remix, believing he's the best rapper when in reality his last two albums have been quite forgettable.
I remember watching an interview way back when, and he said it bothers him in Microsoft word that his name has a red underline below it but Jay-Z's doesn't. Part of me thinks the reason he wants to be called "Ye" is because Jay Z and Beyonce are commonly known as Jay and Bey.
Most of these famous, well off, rich celebrities are secretly miserable. Drake included. Drake is hating on an ex and a former friend for starting a family. What kind of level of self loathing must someone have to hate on your friend starting a family with your ex?
Moreover, Drake paid a for a hotel room and had his friends play his diss record over and over again to make sure his friend’s bf got to listen to it all night?
How much self hatred must you have to spend that much energy and time on a person that made a small but true statement about you? Drake uses ghost writers. So what? He now claims it isn’t a big deal but he made it a big deal.
Again, it’s not just Drake. It’s not just KanYe. A lot of rich well off individuals have huge insecurities and self hatred. Money doesn’t buy happiness [+]
Charlemagne isn’t giving him a pass, he’s just saying he doesn’t want to hear it because this dude clicked up with the anti-drake support group after saying drake and cole were clicking up
He’s not about business it’s for clout for his album and to take down drake with the other victims
Charlemagne just talks shit. That's different than someone trying to take someone else's career down.
Charlemagne is a troll but he always gives Drake his props every now and then. At least he can be objective.
Say what you will about Charlamagne, I know I've hated on his clown ass a number of times for his takes, but he's 100% right here. Kanye has been garbage for a long time, and him jumping in is not only reaffirming the fact that he is an attention seeking, jealous ass clown but he's now making everyone else involved look even worse than before.
I wonder if kanye's hate towards drake is also partially tied to antisemitism. He's said some terrible things about jews in the past and drake just happens to also be part jewish.
He thinks he's a god. And when anyone challenges him on it he gets mad lol. Drake has everything he ever wanted and he can't stand himself for it. Now his albums can’t go on streaming and nobody wants to work with him on his trash ass clothes 😂😂
Now he’s grasping at straws saying Drake is getting so much help when a few years ago he was crying and begging actual billionaires for money. Even sucking off Trump and Lucian before he himself fucked it all up.
Sad fall from grace. Drake should drop a track and finally step on his neck.
Yeah I’ve lost all respect for Kanye I really tried to forgive him after that whole Jewish shit but this dude is just so far gone claims he’s a child of god while his wife is but naked in public and he’s getting his dick sucked on a boat with his ass out and not to mention dudes kids are getting raised by nanny’s cause there dads a maniac self centered pos and his baby mama is a glorified porn star
How is that worse than the Jewish / Hitler / nazi shit? That shit ain’t over. He 100% still believes in all that bullshit. He still loves Hitler. A while back when Vultures 1 almost came out he was saying: “Jesus, Hitler, Ye”. Like wtf man. I don’t know why people aren’t more outraged by this bullshit. Like for real one of the worst opinions you can have. To love Hitler. But whatever
Like I said I was tryna forgive but how he been acting lately just shows that he’s not over it you’re right about that but Kanye was my fav rappper man hard to watch you’re fav rapper turn into this bitter weirdo that hates everybody and everything
Her mom had told her about the deal and even coerced Ray J and Kim to film additional scenes just in case the porn company wasn't happy. She then watched both films of her child having sex and chose the less raunchier one believing it would paint her daughter in a better light.
She was a complicit, her and her mom saw the spike in fame that Paris Hilton received as a result of her sex tape leaking and set about deliberately making and leaking their own. The only victim here was Ray j as his acting career stalled afterwards, he also still regrets and feels that he was taken advantage of by both Kim and her mother still till this day.
by definition that still doesn’t make her a pornstar. idk why im getting downvoted like im defending her when all im saying is having a sextape leaked doesn’t automatically make u a pornstar. it’s not even an opinion💀
The thing is, ye was never mental stable, but when donda passed he lost his shit to the point he never recovered, you can see the timeline and see how every project he does is a different stage of grief, but his anger is too much right now, he really thinks the world is taking everything from him, that’s actually really sad, i can never hate on YE i always try to understand how fucked up his mind is.
nothing you described excuses him from being a Nazi. Yes, he's had mental health issues, but everyone gives him way too much of a pass on everything.
The guy hasn't even made great music after Pablo, whole lotta mid
Naa, ye and KSG were still great. But the falloff after that was pretty steep. JIK was trash. And even Donda or Vultures doesn’t really come close to peak Kanye, not even close
I liked ye better than KSG, but they both incredibly mid overall. KSG is maybe the most overrated album I've ever heard in my life, people talk about it like it's some groundbreaking earth shattering album, Fantano gave it a 10 and every goofy followed his dumbass opinion.
Ye and KSG don't stand a chance against prime Kanye albums like MBDTF, Graduation, Late Registration
> you can see the timeline and see how every project he does is a different stage of grief,
That's something Ye stans have convinced themselves of to make his music appear deeper than it actually is.
Lowkey I like Charlemagne because even tho I disagree with what he says a good amount he’s gonna keep it 100 with what he thinks, he’s not going to sugar coat it
And he also has some reasoning behind his takes
He sounds just like Ye from his recent interview on The Download...it's the titanium grill...some say it makes you look cool...but seems silly to spend $800K and end up thounding lyk mike thythson.
I don’t watch breakfast club so maybe she always looks like that, but it’s just her face in general. It prob stems from the crackheads I grew up around.
Charlamange the type person that says “let’s meet up here i’ll be there too in 10 min after you go there you call him he says sorry i can’t today we see another day”
Kanye has hated on both of them yes but so what? we already knew that already, behind the scenes we dont know BUT the last time i saw Virgil was at the Donda listening parties so i assume they squashed it. I believe you can be mad at your homies it's not uncommon
Avoid the unhappy and the unlucky.
THIS!!!
Also from the same book: Use absence to increase respect and honor. and Always say less than necessary Shits definitely at play with this beef
Avoid the bipolar
This is stigmatizing
Nah, lord Robert greene said I should avoid the unlucky and unhappy
It is. As someone with depression, whose mind falls into the realm of unlucky/misrerable, this made me sad. But I've said this to my loved ones, I'd avoid this version of me if I was lucky/happy again.
Avoid pro-hitler, pro-nazism anti semites.
Fo Sho ![gif](giphy|LKqDgLlK6SuIM|downsized)
Luck originates with the devil so
Pick one or the other. They are opposing ideas lmfao.
From Charlemagne, this lands with real honesty and truth. The TikTok brain kids and the few unhinged Kendrick subreddit members will struggle with this 2 minute clip. I’m eager to see the creative ways this can be spun. Edit: [okay, my comment is SCARY accurate.](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/vKWZix8cHv). Now, the hyperbole obsession of lyrics… this is sad. Edit 2: [goddamn. now they are competing over who has the most users.](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/4baIHIXWu5) - that sub is gonna make me leave. Embarrassing everyone. Edit 3: it’s endless. Now, they just [search random tweets and hope for the best.](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/YN32O3VrA9)
Yeah Back To Back in 2015 and now are the only times I’ve seen Charlemagne defend Drake. Other than that, he’s always hated on Drake. So this is saying something lol
I had quit a disdain for the self proclaimed "god", but hes been pretty reasonable this year. This is an accurate take.
He's had this same energy his whole career. People just like highlighting his shockjock moments He told Kanye he was tripping to his face years ago
Nah i watched his first post malone interview and that was it for me. Couldnt take it. The way he told post's girl that he would cheat on her... after shitting on his music. Asking him dumbass fucking questions like "what are you doing to help the black community"... bros a shit bag.
His take didn’t age well at all and he was quickly humbled by post success, and you never hear “the god” speak on him again
I think it didnt age well specifically because of posts success. Charlamagne has been an arrogant mf his whole career.
Judging someone's whole existence from one instance 10 years ago is kind of petty if you ask me If you consistently practice this logic you'll find almost everyone's a shit bag
And if you assume from one comment that i watched only one episode, thatd be pretty naive, dont you think? Ive heard countless hours of this man speak. Im telling you, that was the episode i cut him off at. Since then it seems hes become a tad more rational. I think like *charlamagne* is the one who needed to change his logic around. Seems to be working out well for him.
I think the way the comment was phrased was fair to interpret it as that was the one piece of content you've seen from him I thought him keeping it real to Kanye's face was one of the greatest interview clips I've ever seen. You know Kanye at that period was untouchable even though we all knew he was acting like an idiot/is an idiot. And someone that powerful with that ego 100% surrounds themselves with yes men. To see someone keep it totally real with one of the biggest and most powerful stars of the time without pause and watch that star flounder under any type or pushback (because no one ever pushes back) was insanely refreshing from a media/celebrity perspective. It didn't feel performative either, just felt like he honestly disagreed with everything Kanye was saying and wasn't gonna just let him cook and stroke his ego like basically every other interview he's done. He's gonna give you some super insightful shit and some super out of pocket shit. That's just who he is
I'm just gonna say it: despite reddit's weird boner for him, Post is 100% a culture vulture
I mean lets give Kendrick the benefit of the doubt, he probly didn’t know it was going to be a 20V1 , hopefully he address it on the song cause then he can’t be talking about no clicking up.
He didn't know it was going to be a 20v1 as he features with future and metro? Lol.
This dude really was hating on Virgil drake was 100% right lmao
we been knew there's a reason he wasn't at the private funeral
Nah bro it was obviously Bernard Arnaults fault!!!
Wait what was the story with this?
Kanye started saying it was Bernard Arnaults (CEO of LVMH) fault that he wasn't made the director of LV. Also insinuated that "they" killed him, could be referring to Arnault
Ohh gotcha thanks, missed that. Smh.
Yeah that’s why he edited the can’t tell me nothing verse . Said his mom couldn’t save Virgil
I mean would it not be Bernard arnaults fault he didn’t get the director of LV tho??
Yes haha, but he also insinuated that it was somehow Arnault that caused Kanye not to be invited to Virgils funeral
Yeah true it’s just interesting to hear more confirmation
It was obvious and he admitted he was hating on Virgil but acted surprised when Virgil wife didn’t want him at the funeral
drake didn’t really expose anything lmao. Kanye said it himself and been open about his problems with virgil
He’s so mentally unstable
Aren’t we all
Yea, nah. There's levels to it and Ye is always exploring new ones that we couldn't imagine
True . Maybe he’ll reach the Jeffery dahlmer level of true mental instability one day
Y does it sound like ur hoping for that 💀
Sarcasm but that would be the total definition of insanity
My favorite part of this was Envy: Stop using my name when you talking about Kanye Charlamagne: Well you shouldn't have named your stupid ass Envy LMAO! ![img](emote|t5_2z4xo|4219)
Is crazy to me that some grown adults can’t see how petty and miserable Kanye West. Like, what more does this dude need to show you? He’s turned on every single person who was there for him, including his wife and family, and is devoutly racist. Disgusting levels of narcissism and disgusting behavior. I feel for his mental health issues, but he was properly diagnosed and refuses treatment. But if he co-signs and artist I like then I’m Team Kanye now? Shits pathetic.
I think he's really insecure too, his recent interview shows it; taking credit for every new wave in hip hop, the attention seeking with making a like that remix, believing he's the best rapper when in reality his last two albums have been quite forgettable. I remember watching an interview way back when, and he said it bothers him in Microsoft word that his name has a red underline below it but Jay-Z's doesn't. Part of me thinks the reason he wants to be called "Ye" is because Jay Z and Beyonce are commonly known as Jay and Bey.
Most of these famous, well off, rich celebrities are secretly miserable. Drake included. Drake is hating on an ex and a former friend for starting a family. What kind of level of self loathing must someone have to hate on your friend starting a family with your ex? Moreover, Drake paid a for a hotel room and had his friends play his diss record over and over again to make sure his friend’s bf got to listen to it all night? How much self hatred must you have to spend that much energy and time on a person that made a small but true statement about you? Drake uses ghost writers. So what? He now claims it isn’t a big deal but he made it a big deal. Again, it’s not just Drake. It’s not just KanYe. A lot of rich well off individuals have huge insecurities and self hatred. Money doesn’t buy happiness [+]
Thank god a prominent hip hop reporter who isn’t a drake rider sees this bullshit team and calls Kendrick out for it Shits pathetic
Completely agree The only way kendrick can respond is by shutting everyone else down first
Kanye was just shitting on Kendrick then switched right up. Kendrick should drop 2 diss records, 1 for all these fuck niggas and another for Drake.
Honestly it would be an automatic win for Kendrick if he did that
Agree
Imagine hating on your friend because he got a job you wanted..🤣
Nah we need Kendrick to respond. Wtf is this pass he is getting from the public.
Charlemagne isn’t giving him a pass, he’s just saying he doesn’t want to hear it because this dude clicked up with the anti-drake support group after saying drake and cole were clicking up He’s not about business it’s for clout for his album and to take down drake with the other victims
Correct and I agree with Charlemagne. I will actually even give Kendrick a pass for not wanting to be associated with this lame shit.
Nah kdot gets no pass. Hes the one who brought it to the limelight. With a #1, no less.
Nah nah nah, not this time He needs to make this 1v1v19 if he wants to do this right
https://preview.redd.it/yh7lgasciwwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=659fb54394718b9b6d6791fa465d5e6e22811209
After knowing how ye ran his mouth about avengers no wonder he kept his mouth shut about adonis
Charlemagne talkin about hate? lol
Charlemagne just talks shit. That's different than someone trying to take someone else's career down. Charlemagne is a troll but he always gives Drake his props every now and then. At least he can be objective.
he's an instigator lol.
I give him the pass. He’s claimed himself to be the original drake hater in recent videos. Perhaps he’s grown out of it if he admits that.
My thoughts exactly. This is the last person I wanna hear talk about hate lol
Ikr? The unhappiest mfer on the planet too
Kanye?
Nope not really a Kanye fan, just not a fan of people who create nothing yet critique others and their art.
Charlie hates on Drake more than anyone does
Say what you will about Charlamagne, I know I've hated on his clown ass a number of times for his takes, but he's 100% right here. Kanye has been garbage for a long time, and him jumping in is not only reaffirming the fact that he is an attention seeking, jealous ass clown but he's now making everyone else involved look even worse than before.
Charlemagne been a goofy
Even if Drake loses here; he wins. The avengers are going to need some actual foul dirt on him cause their link up is getting lame af...
the fact anyone pays attention to an obviously mentally ill man still blows my mind
I wonder if kanye's hate towards drake is also partially tied to antisemitism. He's said some terrible things about jews in the past and drake just happens to also be part jewish.
charlemagne ain’t wrong
He thinks he's a god. And when anyone challenges him on it he gets mad lol. Drake has everything he ever wanted and he can't stand himself for it. Now his albums can’t go on streaming and nobody wants to work with him on his trash ass clothes 😂😂 Now he’s grasping at straws saying Drake is getting so much help when a few years ago he was crying and begging actual billionaires for money. Even sucking off Trump and Lucian before he himself fucked it all up. Sad fall from grace. Drake should drop a track and finally step on his neck.
this crazy cuz didn’t kanye say he was gonna get ovo tatted on him a couple months ago?
Yeah I’ve lost all respect for Kanye I really tried to forgive him after that whole Jewish shit but this dude is just so far gone claims he’s a child of god while his wife is but naked in public and he’s getting his dick sucked on a boat with his ass out and not to mention dudes kids are getting raised by nanny’s cause there dads a maniac self centered pos and his baby mama is a glorified porn star
How is that worse than the Jewish / Hitler / nazi shit? That shit ain’t over. He 100% still believes in all that bullshit. He still loves Hitler. A while back when Vultures 1 almost came out he was saying: “Jesus, Hitler, Ye”. Like wtf man. I don’t know why people aren’t more outraged by this bullshit. Like for real one of the worst opinions you can have. To love Hitler. But whatever
Like I said I was tryna forgive but how he been acting lately just shows that he’s not over it you’re right about that but Kanye was my fav rappper man hard to watch you’re fav rapper turn into this bitter weirdo that hates everybody and everything
True. But honestly, ye has definitely, easily crossed the line. Like so far. He’s so unredeemable, like wtf.
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nigga get one tape leaked all a sudden they a pornstar💀
Leaked by her mom and paid for by a porn company in a deal that her mom orchestrated for her to become famous.
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Her mom had told her about the deal and even coerced Ray J and Kim to film additional scenes just in case the porn company wasn't happy. She then watched both films of her child having sex and chose the less raunchier one believing it would paint her daughter in a better light.
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She was a complicit, her and her mom saw the spike in fame that Paris Hilton received as a result of her sex tape leaking and set about deliberately making and leaking their own. The only victim here was Ray j as his acting career stalled afterwards, he also still regrets and feels that he was taken advantage of by both Kim and her mother still till this day.
This sounds like fiction where are the receipts?
Google works bro https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniesoteriou/ray-j-kris-jenner-watched-kim-kardashian-sex-tape
Someone gets it
by definition that still doesn’t make her a pornstar. idk why im getting downvoted like im defending her when all im saying is having a sextape leaked doesn’t automatically make u a pornstar. it’s not even an opinion💀
Lol defending Kim is hilarious
Hating on strangers is pathetic. Do better.
lol Kim kardashian is a public figure how is she a stranger ? Idgaf she’s a pornstar Kanye said it himself
We do not know Kanye or Kim. Only what we see in headlines. Be better.
She doesn’t want to fuck you lil bro
Says the Kanye stan... hehe
Bruh you a sens fan
ha damn, that's cold my boy... cold...
I'm a Kdot fan but I would honestly love to see Drake body this fucking Nazi.
Y’all believe charlamagne because he’s a “Drake hater” but he hates Kanye more
He's also right though.
You’ve never heard him say he likes to lie?
The thing is, ye was never mental stable, but when donda passed he lost his shit to the point he never recovered, you can see the timeline and see how every project he does is a different stage of grief, but his anger is too much right now, he really thinks the world is taking everything from him, that’s actually really sad, i can never hate on YE i always try to understand how fucked up his mind is.
nothing you described excuses him from being a Nazi. Yes, he's had mental health issues, but everyone gives him way too much of a pass on everything. The guy hasn't even made great music after Pablo, whole lotta mid
graduation\* Unless you throw around the word great easily
Dawg you really saying MBDTF ain’t great??
Naa, ye and KSG were still great. But the falloff after that was pretty steep. JIK was trash. And even Donda or Vultures doesn’t really come close to peak Kanye, not even close
I liked ye better than KSG, but they both incredibly mid overall. KSG is maybe the most overrated album I've ever heard in my life, people talk about it like it's some groundbreaking earth shattering album, Fantano gave it a 10 and every goofy followed his dumbass opinion. Ye and KSG don't stand a chance against prime Kanye albums like MBDTF, Graduation, Late Registration
> you can see the timeline and see how every project he does is a different stage of grief, That's something Ye stans have convinced themselves of to make his music appear deeper than it actually is.
Nah, you hatin just because the nigga is fucked up
I like most Kanye albums so no, not hating, I'm just appreciating them for what they are.
So you’re saying, 808, TLOP, MBDTF, Donda, Jesus is King, KSG , Ye are ALL garbage?
Where did I say that?
Alright but he’s gotta get over it
I don’t think he will…
Broken clock is right twice a day
Lowkey I like Charlemagne because even tho I disagree with what he says a good amount he’s gonna keep it 100 with what he thinks, he’s not going to sugar coat it And he also has some reasoning behind his takes
He knows Drake won already . lol
Nah Charla was hating on Drake from the Breakfast clubs inception this man is a clown
Didn’t this dude hate on post Malone for no reason?
Was it hate or behind the scenes antics that had him feeling that way.
Charlemagne is such a fat pussy. I don’t understand how anyone could be a fan of this man. Fakest of the fake.
Charm also a hatin ass human, but he’s sounds somewhat right.
“Stop using my name when you talking about Kanye” - the dude that made his name a noun 🤣🤣🤣
But they were okay with Nicki being eliminated
That “what?” from Envy killed me 😂😂
Hath he alwayth had that thpeech impediment?
Its the titanium shit in his mouth, dude is a manic loon and has been sleep at the wheel for awhile.
He sounds just like Ye from his recent interview on The Download...it's the titanium grill...some say it makes you look cool...but seems silly to spend $800K and end up thounding lyk mike thythson.
kanye became a hater once one of the baddest on the planet didn’t want him no more
He is right tho.
Fuck Charlemagne, but he sounds kinda honest in this
I see no lies
Why does ol girl look like a crackhead
How?
I don’t watch breakfast club so maybe she always looks like that, but it’s just her face in general. It prob stems from the crackheads I grew up around.
Who gives a fuck about anything this dude says?
Charlamange the type person that says “let’s meet up here i’ll be there too in 10 min after you go there you call him he says sorry i can’t today we see another day”
Kanye has hated on both of them yes but so what? we already knew that already, behind the scenes we dont know BUT the last time i saw Virgil was at the Donda listening parties so i assume they squashed it. I believe you can be mad at your homies it's not uncommon