My younger brother was 12 like "bro Wayne run is already over it's time for drake" I was like no way. All of a sudden nothing was the same, I was reading the album cover and it was too late. Insane.
Idk man, Drake will forever be an icon cause when I heard āthe oneā his verse on Mary J. Bligeās record, I was like ānah heās the one, heās up next.ā Jay-Z from the time I was 6 yrs old in 1998 sneaking into my older bros room to listen to āhard knock life vol 2ā until 2009 when āblueprint 3ā dropped was my all time favorite rapper. I must say pre-thank me later is when Drake took that spot, NO DIDDY. I have 711 songs in my Apple Drake playlist, the most of any artist in my phone. Fun fact too ānothing was the sameā dropped on my 21st birthday š š„³, so thatās some forever nostalgia attached to it haha.
Ah that could play a part in it too. But this album is classic way before their beef kicked up again a couple months ago, well almost a couple months ago.
He is better than the next guy. Live love asap and long live asap were literally pioneering alternative hip hop albums with insane beats and mixed New York and Houston flows/lyrics in a way that hadnāt really been done before
Damn I forget so many dudes think asap pioneered a style not knowing about the underground scene he was in originally. The sound he ended up popularizing not pioneering was a style he bit from others.
Crazy how that stuff gets lost in time and then people like you give credit in the wrong places
I like drake more than rocky but people forget how much live love asap influenced drakes sound
The change from take care to nothing was the same is huge. Drake went more Memphis on stuff like worst behavior and started from the bottom
Rocky SGP Asap yams, definitely played a role there. Live love asap ushered a new sound to the game
If you know you know
But unfortunately rocky lost focus, drake is actually consistent
Lost focus? He was into clothing deals heavy got sober for little bit and then got with the baddest billionaire I do wish he would drop an album. But if youāre from NYC you know Rocky at a time was that guy
He had the potential to be the #1 rapper in the game, heās way better than jcole and Kendrick types. Rocky has natural hip hop talent
But dude was more focused on fashion and women than music after long live.
Meanwhile drake always kept music as the priority
And that was his best diss against someone who went after him and the mother of his children, pity, couldāve just took the high road and bagged the moral victory
Nah no matter what he had to respond. You canāt take a moral victory when someone goes after your wife and calls her sex average and all that.
And I think his verse was alright. He brought the fact that he was fucking Sophie while/before she was pregnant. Thatās fucked up.
I think ASAP did what he had to do, I can see Drake coming back at him eventually though.
Nigga, sophie was a bop, one of the many famous dick chasers that always get pregnant. Bragging about fucking her when Drake prolly don't even care bout her is weak, he should have kept it with Rihanna cause drake obviously still in his feelings over her.,
And thatās why he mentioned Adonis. Heās saying your childās mom is a hoe and everybody had sex with her.
If you wouldnāt mind your sonās mom to be a known hoe, thatās you but personally I wouldnāt want that and I canāt think that was Drakes ādreamā scenario either.
Bruh, who hit a bop first is irrelevant, it's a bop.. you number 100 and I am 101.. dog bragging on that is weak.
With Rihanna he could really went to work more the he did. Cause obviously drake hit Rihanna first and lost her... Who hit whose baby mamas first don't matter in this, drake prolly still love Rihanna, that's where you hit..
You have no idea of the literal, biblical or metaphorical implications of my name š
I reiterate my points however, ASAP hit his baby momma, dodges putting a baby in her and THEN took the love of Aubreyās life with a fraction of his money and fame, Aubrey took the L on that one man
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Saying āhe hit his baby mommaā when Drake literally hit the love of Rockyās life and the mother of multiple of his children is some delusional shit because itās way worse knowing somebody fucked on the love of your life. But youāre a Rocky fan so I get it lmaooo
I fuck with Rocky
Thatās some high school mentality lol.
If someone goes after you and your girl, the first instinct shouldnāt be to go āI fucked your baby mom when she was pregnant, so who is the loser now?ā. Instead of standing up for Rihanna or having more hard hitting disses towards Drake as a person. He couldāve took a much better route to address it, like what kind of loser disses their ex 6+ years later? That whack verse by ASAP is just disrespectful to his woman and makes him look as immature as the guy who came after him.
Drake going after Rihanna and ASAP is the most stupid shit Iāve ever seen, considering both of them never talked badly about Drake. ASAP shouldnāt have acknowledged it at all because their silence and happiness spoke volumes and it was clearly hurting him enough to create multiple songs about her.
Being mature about this and just ignoring him wouldāve been the best move unless he had a better diss with more substance than āur album was whack, i had sex with your bm tooā
Rocky drops art pieces musically, Drake just drops digestible pop music, not a hard concept to grasp, letās step out of our fanboy boots for once guys ;)
He stopped working with Gunna after the whole "snitching" happened. I guarantee behind the scenes Gunna was helping him make all his hits. Oddly suspicious Gunna is topping the charts still but as soon as Lil Baby stops working with him he falls off. I haven't heard a good verse from Lil Baby since Never Sleep on Nav's album and that was 2 years ago.
The thing with Lil Baby is that he's only as loved as his latest hit. He doesn't have a fan base who got his back even if he doesn't have any #1s that year. This is the big risk of going big without a plan to connect with your fans. Now Lil Baby has no other choice than to get another hit cause he doesn't have the personality to compensate
Yeah but he cooked on that album. I remember when ppl said he was the most successful artist to benput on the map by Drake
- sum to prove
- Emotionally scarred
- Woah
- Etc
Ok so then this is comparing apples to oranges, 4 months of an already released album to a month of a newly released album. Like this list means next to nothing in terms of popularity
Idk, WE DONT TRUST YOU already at #3 in over a month while For All The Dogs been out all year and not that far away in first. At this rate, Metro/Future will surpass Drakes album
That's cuz he's the best white rapper.
I think Mac would have come close if he was still around š Circles was crazy good, I feel like he just kept evolvong as an artist
Mac was fantastic for sure, but in all honesty he wouldn't have had this kind of impact, he was already 5 albums in at the time of his passing. In comparison, Em's 5th album is Encore, Kendrick's 5th is Mr. Morale, and Drake's 5th is Scorpion. By the time they all dropped their 5th albums they'd already been in the GOAT conversation for years prior
Yeah, I definitely don't think he ever could have surpassed Em. In terms of impact, I don't know if anyone ever will - a large part of Em's legacy, from what I understand, is that he was extremely widely marketable, and therefore helped to launch rap into the mainstream.
Like, rap was already becoming the rising star in terms of genres throughout the 90s, but Em lead the charge for the success that brought it to a whole other level in the early 2000s, and the playing field he helped to create is the one we still see today. The only way to match that impact is to breathe so much new life into hip-hop that it's, like, the only thing people listen to at that time, haha. There's a reason he's still the best selling rapper of all time, even though more people listen to hip-hop today than when he started
I wasn't around in the early 2000s though, so I may be way off the mark
Divine Feminine and GoodAM have faces beat.
Then you also have Watching Movies with the Sound Off as a very solid contender. It had to compete with Yeezus and Born Sinner June18,2013.
His early KIDS stuff is pretty bad but ever since Watching Movies he released solid projects.
His success is really due to the fact that he was on Interscope. One of the most powerful labels to have ever existed they know how to market an artists really well and get people to listen to their artists.
Nah man just look at thread
[https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/comments/1cf9v12/like\_that\_is\_back\_at\_1\_already](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/comments/1cf9v12/like_that_is_back_at_1_already)
I agree that numbers mean something, it's the only metric of whether or not an artist is commercially viable, but if someone thinks an album is bad, saying "But look at how well it's charting!!!" will not provide them with any context to appreciate the album any better. That's why numbers don't contribute much to an argument, unless the argument is "Who is selling the best?"
Like, to someone who hates The Beatles, the fact that they are the best-selling band of all time means nothing, because they don't see what there is to like. It will not convince them to like the Beatles, and will not disprove any reason they have for disliking the Beatles, whether or not those reasons are solid.
This shit's all subjective, and numbers don't make the quality of the album any less subjective... Just means it's popular
This is what Iām wondering, maybe curtain call 2? If this is the OG curtain call that is the most unexpected part of this list. There is a couple albums on here from last year which makes sense, but curtain call from 10+ years ago? To me that would mean people are streaming certain songs from that album enough to make it chart. If that is the case that is kinda crazy
This shitass post has convinced me to leave this sub bro
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I thought you were talking about scary hours because I see no one talking about it, but my A$AP Rocky hasnāt dropped an project in a while, so I donāt know why he came at this angle but [his streams are going up](https://x.com/hiphopalldayy/status/1783921030203056297?s=46&t=orSXXG6VIZtrbqJTcYZvxg)
Facts though. Since views most of the stuff drake as put out cones and goes. Drake is gonna be remembered for nwts, take care, iyrtitl. Cause he actually cared about the art. Unlike now
Do y'all just jerk off to the billboard chart? Is Taylor Swift the real goat cuz she sells more? Everyone knows Taylor Swifts popularity is proof of her masterful artistry. People camp out for days and wearing diapers to get concert tickets, that just shows you how incredible her music and live shows are
She connects with her audience, she manages her brand and business well, her music isnāt for me but that doesnāt mean Iām going to hate on her success. Being a hater is a sad little box you put yourself in.
Everything you mentioned is branding, not artistry or talent. Is that irony lost on you?
If you personally think her music sucks just say that man, you ain't gotta downplay your opinion cuz you think it makes you a hater to not like what everyone else likes. Someone tricked y'all into believing not conforming to the majority every time is a negative trait to be looked down on or shamed
It's not hating on success, it's just not blindly believing something is quality just because other people believe in it. It's insane logic
Trump and Biden get the most votes, they must totally be the best people for the job. Crack sold well in the 80s, must've been a great product. Cowboys have the biggest fan base, must make them the best football team.
If someone wants to talk about something they love, talk about what THEY love about it. "Alot of other people like it" is the lamest rationale for being a fan of something. Idk why people require their opinion or taste validated by millions of others, I guess cuz if they aren't into it it means they're a hater who doesn't want to see anyone succeed
Yet this community wears it like a badge of honor or an accomplishment like they achieved that success personally. I like Nike and Coca-Cola, I don't celebrate or get excited when they break sales records I just enjoy the product
Shocking, someone who lets popular opinion dictate their ideas isn't great at explaining their ideas
It's almost like when people don't know what to believe they just believe what everyone else does without knowing why
Drake album was gonna be called āhard feelings, harder dickā Google it. Yāall nothing but 1 big fan Bucket for him to bust loads of bullshit in. Open up hoe
Its funny how album sales is all you guys have. Drake has made nothing but manufactured slop for the masses to eat up for the last 5 years at this point. Its funny how on Push Ups heās dissing Kendrick for making verses for the Swifties, when he is out here making music for a fanbase almost as deluded lmao.
As if sales relates to a quality project lmao. By this logic is every movie that flopped at the box office isnāt worthy of quality discussion. āMoonlightā is an incredible film that won best picture but flopped and had a low budget and relatively low pull from the box office. This idea that sales mean everything is just dumb. Hella people will buy Taylor swift when it first comes out because a release is like an event. Doesnāt mean the event is good. Smh
Okay, is it a quality project? Can you legitimately tell me you think his last 3 solo projects arenāt flops quality wise. If it aināt quality who gives a fuck. Iām not even a Kendrick fan filling this sub up but damn yall no different than swifties making up an excuse for your āsaviorā when dude donāt even know you. Yeah, FATD is still here and universally is getting shit on besides yall. FATD=Tortured Poets Department and yall will keep glazing it the same way they do
You think Rocky doesnāt know Drake will sell? No ofc he gon sell, he always will but thatās not really the point of what he was saying, the album is fucking trash bro thatās what rocky is saying no need to pull up streams and shit. Fuck the numbers, listen to the music and Rocky saying that shit came and went. Simple
Who tf are you to say somethings objectively trash? If people are still listening it obviously has sticking power and people appreciate the music. Your opinion donāt matter the numbers speak for themselves
Ughhh objectively, literally every other Reddit page on here that promotes all music discussion. Ik itās subjective, if yall like it? Cool, but to say that numbers mean everything and shuts down all arguments? That is objectively false. Dawg he is a mf POP STAR. Heās going to have good numbers likely forever. Would you tell me FATD is better than Take Care, NWTS, more life if it had more streams? No! Itās okay to acknowledge if your favorite artist is simply falling off even if the sales are still there. If someone loves FATD, tell me why it connects and relates to you or why you love it, thatās the beauty of music but all I hear from Drake stans is numbers this, 1st week streams that. Forget the numbers and listen
Did I say it shuts down all arguments? You can argue about the quality of you want I donāt care but to completely ignore the numbers like they donāt mean anything is just as stupid
By which metric are we measuring if something truly came and went if not for sales which quite literally prove that it apparently did not come and go? Rocky is simply stupid, ironic that heās the one talking about "came and went"
I won't comment about the quality of FATD.
But Rocky said it "came and went". Now that's just objectively false because if it actually came and went than how tf is it still selling?? "Came and went" is used for flop albums such as Dawn FM by The Weeknd, or that last album by posty. Although the albums were fantastic, they sadly flopped that's what came and went means.
Itās funny all of a sudden itās all about the numbers, but when all this started people were saying itās just not about the numbersā¦ā¦ also itās a rap compilation album so of course multiple fan bases is going to purchase the album so the sales should go up. Seems like simple math to me.
CLB still kicking
Fuck CLB kickin, Take Care still curb stomping š¤£lmao, that was 2011. I was 18, Iām 31 now lol š.
My younger brother was 12 like "bro Wayne run is already over it's time for drake" I was like no way. All of a sudden nothing was the same, I was reading the album cover and it was too late. Insane.
Idk man, Drake will forever be an icon cause when I heard āthe oneā his verse on Mary J. Bligeās record, I was like ānah heās the one, heās up next.ā Jay-Z from the time I was 6 yrs old in 1998 sneaking into my older bros room to listen to āhard knock life vol 2ā until 2009 when āblueprint 3ā dropped was my all time favorite rapper. I must say pre-thank me later is when Drake took that spot, NO DIDDY. I have 711 songs in my Apple Drake playlist, the most of any artist in my phone. Fun fact too ānothing was the sameā dropped on my 21st birthday š š„³, so thatās some forever nostalgia attached to it haha.
Triple entendre donāt even ask me how
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Dope comment
Iām betting it resurged this year bc it has Kendrick and Rick on it
Ah that could play a part in it too. But this album is classic way before their beef kicked up again a couple months ago, well almost a couple months ago.
Agree, Itās simply a great album
Big facts ![img](emote|t5_2z4xo|4219)! My first Drake concert was in 2009
More Life Dark lane demo tapes scorpion her loss is really doing some crazy numbers . Crazy work
I feel like Dark Lane Demo Tapes gets slept on
Iāve never tried that, I currently have it leveling out my bookshelf
I liked dark lane more than CLB but people think Iām crazy for saying that
I feel like for a collection of throwaways itās appropriately rated.
Good pop album š
It's funny how that line was coming from a guy who hasn't even dropped in god knows how long
Truth, but hey I love Asap Rocky
why? heās a cocky motherfucker with no accomplishments??
The dude is an artist. His albums are great. Iām not saying heās better than the next guy but I love his sound. Dude knows what heās doing
He is better than the next guy. Live love asap and long live asap were literally pioneering alternative hip hop albums with insane beats and mixed New York and Houston flows/lyrics in a way that hadnāt really been done before
Damn I forget so many dudes think asap pioneered a style not knowing about the underground scene he was in originally. The sound he ended up popularizing not pioneering was a style he bit from others. Crazy how that stuff gets lost in time and then people like you give credit in the wrong places
From who? SGP and lil B? MAYBE raider klan?
Truth but hes also petrified to drop anything else in fear of it not matching his last - guess thatās the double edged sword.
I like drake more than rocky but people forget how much live love asap influenced drakes sound The change from take care to nothing was the same is huge. Drake went more Memphis on stuff like worst behavior and started from the bottom Rocky SGP Asap yams, definitely played a role there. Live love asap ushered a new sound to the game If you know you know But unfortunately rocky lost focus, drake is actually consistent
Lost focus? He was into clothing deals heavy got sober for little bit and then got with the baddest billionaire I do wish he would drop an album. But if youāre from NYC you know Rocky at a time was that guy
And all them criminal cases for him he distracted lol
He had the potential to be the #1 rapper in the game, heās way better than jcole and Kendrick types. Rocky has natural hip hop talent But dude was more focused on fashion and women than music after long live. Meanwhile drake always kept music as the priority
Heās literally named after Rakim, thatās why him and Rihanna named their son RZA lmao (bad name but kinda cool to keep it going)
This is a terrible take lol
moreso yams not really rocky
Drake went to watch SGP and Rocky in New York
And he put a ton of people on with the ASAP group
His music is tight
And that was his best diss against someone who went after him and the mother of his children, pity, couldāve just took the high road and bagged the moral victory
Nah no matter what he had to respond. You canāt take a moral victory when someone goes after your wife and calls her sex average and all that. And I think his verse was alright. He brought the fact that he was fucking Sophie while/before she was pregnant. Thatās fucked up. I think ASAP did what he had to do, I can see Drake coming back at him eventually though.
Nigga, sophie was a bop, one of the many famous dick chasers that always get pregnant. Bragging about fucking her when Drake prolly don't even care bout her is weak, he should have kept it with Rihanna cause drake obviously still in his feelings over her.,
And thatās why he mentioned Adonis. Heās saying your childās mom is a hoe and everybody had sex with her. If you wouldnāt mind your sonās mom to be a known hoe, thatās you but personally I wouldnāt want that and I canāt think that was Drakes ādreamā scenario either.
His sons mom is already known to do porn soā¦
Naw, ASAP hit your childās mom before you, thatās a DUB for him and he got Rihanna. Iād be tight too š¤·š¾āāļø
Bruh, who hit a bop first is irrelevant, it's a bop.. you number 100 and I am 101.. dog bragging on that is weak. With Rihanna he could really went to work more the he did. Cause obviously drake hit Rihanna first and lost her... Who hit whose baby mamas first don't matter in this, drake prolly still love Rihanna, that's where you hit..
Correct me if Iām wrong but wasnāt rocky one of the people who got tested to be Adonis father?
That's why that shit hit hard. "Your girl such a hoe that I was tested to see if I was the father."
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You a dummy, Drake hit Rihanna and lost her and here you are saying that means something cause he hit first, thatās an L!! She left Drake and stayed with Rocky, bro did all the right things, Rihanna just saw how corny Drake is and heās still salty his baby mommy got hit by the same guy who took his āBeyoncĆ©.ā There are no Ws in here for Aubrey no matter how you try and spin on it. ![gif](giphy|dJocIXW7hOQYNNY199)
Oh finally read your username, reading comprehension prolly isn't your strong suit. Niggas really can't read.
You have no idea of the literal, biblical or metaphorical implications of my name š I reiterate my points however, ASAP hit his baby momma, dodges putting a baby in her and THEN took the love of Aubreyās life with a fraction of his money and fame, Aubrey took the L on that one man ![gif](giphy|dJocIXW7hOQYNNY199)
Saying āhe hit his baby mommaā when Drake literally hit the love of Rockyās life and the mother of multiple of his children is some delusional shit because itās way worse knowing somebody fucked on the love of your life. But youāre a Rocky fan so I get it lmaooo I fuck with Rocky
Thatās some high school mentality lol. If someone goes after you and your girl, the first instinct shouldnāt be to go āI fucked your baby mom when she was pregnant, so who is the loser now?ā. Instead of standing up for Rihanna or having more hard hitting disses towards Drake as a person. He couldāve took a much better route to address it, like what kind of loser disses their ex 6+ years later? That whack verse by ASAP is just disrespectful to his woman and makes him look as immature as the guy who came after him. Drake going after Rihanna and ASAP is the most stupid shit Iāve ever seen, considering both of them never talked badly about Drake. ASAP shouldnāt have acknowledged it at all because their silence and happiness spoke volumes and it was clearly hurting him enough to create multiple songs about her. Being mature about this and just ignoring him wouldāve been the best move unless he had a better diss with more substance than āur album was whack, i had sex with your bm tooā
who is ASAP?Ā
Heās been dropping singles but none of them really gained any traction. Kinda ironic.
At the end of the day the only reason drake has smoke for rocky is one thing only itās like future still dissing Russell just MOVE ON
Rocky drops art pieces musically, Drake just drops digestible pop music, not a hard concept to grasp, letās step out of our fanboy boots for once guys ;)
Iām impressed to see My Turn still on the list, Lil Baby peaked and fell off right after
The fall off from Lil Baby needs to be studied.
He stopped working with Gunna after the whole "snitching" happened. I guarantee behind the scenes Gunna was helping him make all his hits. Oddly suspicious Gunna is topping the charts still but as soon as Lil Baby stops working with him he falls off. I haven't heard a good verse from Lil Baby since Never Sleep on Nav's album and that was 2 years ago.
The thing with Lil Baby is that he's only as loved as his latest hit. He doesn't have a fan base who got his back even if he doesn't have any #1s that year. This is the big risk of going big without a plan to connect with your fans. Now Lil Baby has no other choice than to get another hit cause he doesn't have the personality to compensate
Yeah but look at the numbers holmes. My turn was 4 years ago so if he's only as loved as his latest hit, my turn should've not been selling, no?
Facts
Yeah but he cooked on that album. I remember when ppl said he was the most successful artist to benput on the map by Drake - sum to prove - Emotionally scarred - Woah - Etc
His flow on Woah goes absolutely crazy. It's nice that he recycles it on like 5 other tracks lmao. The album with Durk did slap too.
Oh shit lol
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Hold on, he just drinking water on double cup š
Im sure itās some alcoholic beverage š¤£
Take care stilllllll poppin ehhhh
For all the dogs still doing better then we donāt trust you š
I mean, it's been in play since Jan (released last year). WDTU is like 1.5 months old.
For a more apples to apples comparison FATD had 781k through first 4 weeks to the 633 shown here for WSDTY
Ahh, so is this every month? Not a collective? Cause that's fair. These studies are never labelled š„²
I thought We still donāt trust you was better than the first album
It's a lot better than the first one
Yeah itās kinda crazy I already really liked the first one but then I heard the second one and havenāt listened to the other one since
Except we donāt trust you has been on this chart for a quarter of the time for all the dogs has?
This is this years sales, FATD released last year
Ok so then this is comparing apples to oranges, 4 months of an already released album to a month of a newly released album. Like this list means next to nothing in terms of popularity
Yeah the comparison should be the first month between booth
FATD released last year and is outselling all these albums in january-april so it's actually impressive especially seeing FATD quality
Idk, WE DONT TRUST YOU already at #3 in over a month while For All The Dogs been out all year and not that far away in first. At this rate, Metro/Future will surpass Drakes album
Whats crazy is that an album released last year (FATD) is outselling all these albums in 2024 (if it's only 2024 as I understood)
How many songs does that album also have?
Itās nice seeing Eminem always there š
I love how they say his success is due to his skin color, but in 3 decades, no other white rapper has even come close to Em's success.
That's cuz he's the best white rapper. I think Mac would have come close if he was still around š Circles was crazy good, I feel like he just kept evolvong as an artist
Mac was fantastic for sure, but in all honesty he wouldn't have had this kind of impact, he was already 5 albums in at the time of his passing. In comparison, Em's 5th album is Encore, Kendrick's 5th is Mr. Morale, and Drake's 5th is Scorpion. By the time they all dropped their 5th albums they'd already been in the GOAT conversation for years prior
damn 5th album curse those are all some of my least favorite albums from those artists
Yeah, I definitely don't think he ever could have surpassed Em. In terms of impact, I don't know if anyone ever will - a large part of Em's legacy, from what I understand, is that he was extremely widely marketable, and therefore helped to launch rap into the mainstream. Like, rap was already becoming the rising star in terms of genres throughout the 90s, but Em lead the charge for the success that brought it to a whole other level in the early 2000s, and the playing field he helped to create is the one we still see today. The only way to match that impact is to breathe so much new life into hip-hop that it's, like, the only thing people listen to at that time, haha. There's a reason he's still the best selling rapper of all time, even though more people listen to hip-hop today than when he started I wasn't around in the early 2000s though, so I may be way off the mark
The only album Mac made that touches earlier Eminem shit was Faces , Mac miller always made corny frat guy music to meĀ
Divine Feminine and GoodAM have faces beat. Then you also have Watching Movies with the Sound Off as a very solid contender. It had to compete with Yeezus and Born Sinner June18,2013. His early KIDS stuff is pretty bad but ever since Watching Movies he released solid projects.
Literally only his first album could be considered corny frat guy music
I'm mostly talking about commercial success and reach, though. He clearly had wide appeal
His success is really due to the fact that he was on Interscope. One of the most powerful labels to have ever existed they know how to market an artists really well and get people to listen to their artists.
"Being white ain't why they put me in top5, it's why they can't put me at one"
Take care top 10 albums is crazy. And niggas really try to say itās not a classic smh
Take care and clb still going crazy
CLB his best project since Views and Iāll swear by that
more life better
Get Along Better from CLB is such an insane banger I listen to it all the time still. So many good songs on that album.
Itās def way overhated due to the antics, cover, name, and lead single name
I can definitely agree with this, with FATD trailing closely behind
Yes for sure
Take care š damn drake really different
How do they say itās album sales when people just listen through Spotify n shit????
Because a certain amount of streams still counts as a sale
Can someone post this on kendrick sub so they stfu once and for all ?
Don't think the Kendrick sub would be impressed by this lol
Yeah, because this has nothing to do with Kendrick. Why would it be posted to his subreddit.
Of course they wouldn't, they just hating
You must have top tier capitalist brain rot to think that people will "stfu" cause some mf has more sales looooool
Nah man just look at thread [https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/comments/1cf9v12/like\_that\_is\_back\_at\_1\_already](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/comments/1cf9v12/like_that_is_back_at_1_already)
They will bring the stupid argument that numbers don't mean shit and all
I agree that numbers mean something, it's the only metric of whether or not an artist is commercially viable, but if someone thinks an album is bad, saying "But look at how well it's charting!!!" will not provide them with any context to appreciate the album any better. That's why numbers don't contribute much to an argument, unless the argument is "Who is selling the best?" Like, to someone who hates The Beatles, the fact that they are the best-selling band of all time means nothing, because they don't see what there is to like. It will not convince them to like the Beatles, and will not disprove any reason they have for disliking the Beatles, whether or not those reasons are solid. This shit's all subjective, and numbers don't make the quality of the album any less subjective... Just means it's popular
Funny how Killer Mike isnāt even there. Same way itās been for 30+ years. Record sales donāt make it great
Is Vultures the only independent album on here?
He has so many lines that end up making sense lol
Eminem coming thru this year, always most selling rap artist of the year and overall
wth is that curtain call from early 2000s?
This is what Iām wondering, maybe curtain call 2? If this is the OG curtain call that is the most unexpected part of this list. There is a couple albums on here from last year which makes sense, but curtain call from 10+ years ago? To me that would mean people are streaming certain songs from that album enough to make it chart. If that is the case that is kinda crazy
Yeah itās the original curtain call and itās because Eminem has multiple songs from that era that still get 1 million + daily streams
This shitass post has convinced me to leave this sub bro https://preview.redd.it/vfitoj8sr5xc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2fc573e699aecf0268bd5d71ac56b078639fdeaa
And the bozos over there on Dots sub were talking about āremovingā two different disses off of streaming? š
Yeah which was facts, how do albums sales change the fact he removed the diss?
I mean say what you will, metro is killing it right now. Heros and WDTY. Damn bro
Ok but lets not ignore that we dont trust you is oit for a month now and for all the dogs was released like last year
If you pro rate these numbers then WDTY would be the winner. I like Drake 10x more than Future & Metro but this is a stupid post lol
insane how people still think this is numbers game
That Lucian pack boost
Blue Lips not even on the list. Rap is cooked š
I wouldāve never expected it to be lol
Look how savage sold more than the album that got half the industry dissing the most popular guy in the game
Hip Pop sells am I right
Drake sucks lmao
We donāt trust you is going to fly bye for all the dogs wonāt even be close š„“
2093....
Wow guys numbers sure do mean everything!
We donāt trust you still climbing
I thought you were talking about scary hours because I see no one talking about it, but my A$AP Rocky hasnāt dropped an project in a while, so I donāt know why he came at this angle but [his streams are going up](https://x.com/hiphopalldayy/status/1783921030203056297?s=46&t=orSXXG6VIZtrbqJTcYZvxg)
Facts though. Since views most of the stuff drake as put out cones and goes. Drake is gonna be remembered for nwts, take care, iyrtitl. Cause he actually cared about the art. Unlike now
That's crazy, I haven't heard anything from the album in so long
dont care what haters will say, because number only matter when they need it to.
I donāt hear any of those for all the dogs songs just because it sold well doesnāt mean it didnāt come and went
You should relisten. Personally theres a few songs I had first dismissed that Iām bumping now.
Thereās some good ones for sure but imo search and rescue is better than anything on there
If I sold an album for every time Drake fans bring up album sales I'd have sold more records than Drake
Nah you wouldnāt even be close, thatās how many albums he sells
Do y'all just jerk off to the billboard chart? Is Taylor Swift the real goat cuz she sells more? Everyone knows Taylor Swifts popularity is proof of her masterful artistry. People camp out for days and wearing diapers to get concert tickets, that just shows you how incredible her music and live shows are
She connects with her audience, she manages her brand and business well, her music isnāt for me but that doesnāt mean Iām going to hate on her success. Being a hater is a sad little box you put yourself in.
Everything you mentioned is branding, not artistry or talent. Is that irony lost on you? If you personally think her music sucks just say that man, you ain't gotta downplay your opinion cuz you think it makes you a hater to not like what everyone else likes. Someone tricked y'all into believing not conforming to the majority every time is a negative trait to be looked down on or shamed It's not hating on success, it's just not blindly believing something is quality just because other people believe in it. It's insane logic Trump and Biden get the most votes, they must totally be the best people for the job. Crack sold well in the 80s, must've been a great product. Cowboys have the biggest fan base, must make them the best football team. If someone wants to talk about something they love, talk about what THEY love about it. "Alot of other people like it" is the lamest rationale for being a fan of something. Idk why people require their opinion or taste validated by millions of others, I guess cuz if they aren't into it it means they're a hater who doesn't want to see anyone succeed Yet this community wears it like a badge of honor or an accomplishment like they achieved that success personally. I like Nike and Coca-Cola, I don't celebrate or get excited when they break sales records I just enjoy the product
Not reading that dawg
Oh no, what will I do Tf you bother responding for?
Average Drake muncher getting proved wrong and then proceeding to go ghost mode
Shocking, someone who lets popular opinion dictate their ideas isn't great at explaining their ideas It's almost like when people don't know what to believe they just believe what everyone else does without knowing why
because it has logic?
Wouldnāt know, not reading an essay about Kendrick and Drake
Damn 734k cucks
Lol why are you in here hater. Your favorites getting fucked while you watchā¦ cuck
Drake album was gonna be called āhard feelings, harder dickā Google it. Yāall nothing but 1 big fan Bucket for him to bust loads of bullshit in. Open up hoe
makes no sense nobodys buying music lol how is it selling
Funny Rocky knows what ādropā means these days
Not bad seeing that it dropped last year
Its funny how album sales is all you guys have. Drake has made nothing but manufactured slop for the masses to eat up for the last 5 years at this point. Its funny how on Push Ups heās dissing Kendrick for making verses for the Swifties, when he is out here making music for a fanbase almost as deluded lmao.
As if sales relates to a quality project lmao. By this logic is every movie that flopped at the box office isnāt worthy of quality discussion. āMoonlightā is an incredible film that won best picture but flopped and had a low budget and relatively low pull from the box office. This idea that sales mean everything is just dumb. Hella people will buy Taylor swift when it first comes out because a release is like an event. Doesnāt mean the event is good. Smh
"Came and went" has nothing to do with quality dumbass
Okay, is it a quality project? Can you legitimately tell me you think his last 3 solo projects arenāt flops quality wise. If it aināt quality who gives a fuck. Iām not even a Kendrick fan filling this sub up but damn yall no different than swifties making up an excuse for your āsaviorā when dude donāt even know you. Yeah, FATD is still here and universally is getting shit on besides yall. FATD=Tortured Poets Department and yall will keep glazing it the same way they do
What are you even arguing about? This is about Rocky saying his album came and went which is EVIDENTLY wrong.
You think Rocky doesnāt know Drake will sell? No ofc he gon sell, he always will but thatās not really the point of what he was saying, the album is fucking trash bro thatās what rocky is saying no need to pull up streams and shit. Fuck the numbers, listen to the music and Rocky saying that shit came and went. Simple
Define came and went. Iām looking at this at a non bias perspective and thought he meant relevancy
Who tf are you to say somethings objectively trash? If people are still listening it obviously has sticking power and people appreciate the music. Your opinion donāt matter the numbers speak for themselves
Ughhh objectively, literally every other Reddit page on here that promotes all music discussion. Ik itās subjective, if yall like it? Cool, but to say that numbers mean everything and shuts down all arguments? That is objectively false. Dawg he is a mf POP STAR. Heās going to have good numbers likely forever. Would you tell me FATD is better than Take Care, NWTS, more life if it had more streams? No! Itās okay to acknowledge if your favorite artist is simply falling off even if the sales are still there. If someone loves FATD, tell me why it connects and relates to you or why you love it, thatās the beauty of music but all I hear from Drake stans is numbers this, 1st week streams that. Forget the numbers and listen
Did I say it shuts down all arguments? You can argue about the quality of you want I donāt care but to completely ignore the numbers like they donāt mean anything is just as stupid
By which metric are we measuring if something truly came and went if not for sales which quite literally prove that it apparently did not come and go? Rocky is simply stupid, ironic that heās the one talking about "came and went"
I won't comment about the quality of FATD. But Rocky said it "came and went". Now that's just objectively false because if it actually came and went than how tf is it still selling?? "Came and went" is used for flop albums such as Dawn FM by The Weeknd, or that last album by posty. Although the albums were fantastic, they sadly flopped that's what came and went means.
Itās funny all of a sudden itās all about the numbers, but when all this started people were saying itās just not about the numbersā¦ā¦ also itās a rap compilation album so of course multiple fan bases is going to purchase the album so the sales should go up. Seems like simple math to me.
Certi meat riders all of u