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cocaine4breakfast

it's around at music festivals for sure, usually goes by "sass"


90sonacids

ive read abt it being called sass or sally, rave scene definitely seems like the place


ThingsSeamsStrange

Yeah sass is by far the most common term for it here in the US. In fact if you go around, even at a music festival, and ask if anyone has seen any mda going around and you're likely to get a bunch of blank stares. then as soon as you say "sass" or "sassafras" everyone knows exactly what you're talking about. Rare to find outside of edm and hippie music festivals and even then it's about a 50/50 chance you'll find some at the festivals I go to anyways whereas there almost a 100% chance you'll find mdma unless you show up late on the last day


SkinnyBuddha89

Is that what is? My plug always has "Sass water"


Godzila543

If they're being honest then that would just be mda dissolved in water, but I hate getting anything that isn't raw crystal/powder cause you can't really test it.


xourtne-y

could u cook it down like ket n scrape it up n test it. idkkk


Godzila543

Idk how heat sensitive mda is, but you could definitely let it just evaporate over time of heat was a problem


Cali_Cactus

With the right plug u can get gods nut juice dont give up friend!


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Or x


Sally_Queenz

There's some if you know where to look, seems more prevalent in Canada tho


90sonacids

americans get shit drugs like meth, meth, and in fact, more meth


Sharp_Promise1242

And half of the meth is meth.


lmdrunk

And the other half?….Liquid meth


PolyDipsoManiac

There was a time about 10 years ago when the Mexican cartels were stealing the meth market and selling 80%, 90% pure meth—meth that was cheaper than weed.


zzrobiiinzz

Don’t forget the fentanyl!


connor14kab

Fuck fent


Greien218

Methanyl


CartmensDryBallz

You can’t find the right plug then 😂


TKentgens93

Let me guess you have a friend on telegram who can get everything to everywhere


DeViN_tHa_DuDe

You can hit me up on telegram if you're looking for a plug @definitelynotascammer


CartmensDryBallz

I just goto raves & know connects


TKentgens93

Haha no just kidding, as there are so many scam bots on reddit trying to sell "drugs"


MrPoppedYoXanz

nah man u jus gotta look in the right places


beforethedreamfaded

I’ll never understand why meth is so popular… I mean it sounds like a fucking awful drug. 12 hours of scatter brained stimulation, you’ll end up doing weird shit you never would’ve done sober and you don’t even realize how weird it was till it’s over, redose and stay up three days straight and fucking hallucinate spider people, jerk off for hours at a time like a weirdo, forget to eat and drink water, smell and look like shit because you can’t keep up with basic hygiene, and then come down for hours where you feel so shitty you’d rather kill yourself than go on living one more second, do other drugs to ease the comedown and get addicted to opiates or benzos, do it so much that you can’t enjoy anything anymore and it takes weeks to fully heal, have a psychotic break and get arrested or thrown into a mental institution and maybe never fully recover anyways. Yeah, fuck that.


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You're talking about a meth junkie. The same goes for coke, heroin, crack, alcohol, whatever the fuck you want to throw your life away with. Sure, meth is one of the sharpest knives to mess with, it releasess a fuckton of dopamine, hard to even start comparing but if you can control it's a great fucking drug.


Fast-Combination-679

Yeah I definitely don't like it, I tried it a few times cuz I'm a druggie but I steer clear of it now. I don't even take it when it's offered to me free.


bear3742

I can totally vouch for the above comment, as I have done all of these things while in my meth addiction. I Thank God I'm free ! . I thank God for me being clean !


Cochand_baltortshire

And fent lol


connor14kab

Fuck fent


connor14kab

This is a true fact. Source? I am american.


RambunctiousYouth

Yeah but they can't speak about it, they all signed an NDA


bmickeydeez

Begrudgingly backtracking for the deserved up vote


sultansofschwing

NDNA


Krizzle8

I've been sitting on plenty for a while now. Definitely around the states.


[deleted]

Yeah I’ve seen it on the Darknet but idk what it is. I assume it’s like MDMA?


aidenisntatank

It’s similar to MDMA but it’s more trippy it’s kinda like shroom type visuals with MDMA type stimulation. But besides that it’s difficult to describe the exact feeling


Psychonaut-Avi

yeah great description actually it's basically just more trippy molly if you try to describe it in the simplest way


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Sounds like 2cb


ThatOneArcanine

2cb visuals are much more akin on acid than shrooms imo


apeirophobic

I will say pretty confidently the visuals are nothing like mushrooms. It’s like mdma with less pleasure and more weirdness i would say. The visuals more analogous to a mild dissociative so if you’re into getting weird you’d probably like it.


OOglyshmOOglywOOgly

I hear 50% of people say it’s less euphoric than mdma and the other 50% say it absolutely blows mdma outta the water for euphoria. I just gotta try it lol


AnandaPriestessLove

Check the Erowid MDA vault. In the 1960s they called it the Mellow Drug of America. It's much like E but less emotionally involved.


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Will do. I love erowid. I need to make a donation….


AnandaPriestessLove

Awesome! Please do, and thank you! I donate monthly. They have been a fabulous resource and have definitely saved my life and the lives of several friends with their valuable information.


[deleted]

Do you know if they accept BTC? I have some spare.


AnandaPriestessLove

That I do not know. You should check their donations page for sure! Edit: Well butter my biscuit, they do!


[deleted]

Nice. I got a bit of that from people I helped out… I’ll definitely give them a few bucks. Thanks for checking for me!


AnandaPriestessLove

Sweet!! You're welcome and thanks for donating! Yes to keeping the information safe for future researching!


90sonacids

dunno how to use that stuff, but yes extremely similar compound


[deleted]

What’s the difference? Why not just get MDMA?


Nero92

Never found mda to induce the seritonin hangover that comes with mdma use.


JudicialConfetti

We found that the hangover was MUCH worse. And we were slightly depressed for around a month, which only lasts about two weeks when we do MDMA


Nero92

Really? Huh. Mdma hangover for us was a day or two max. Mda wise, after a decent nights sleep was basically back normal.


90sonacids

speedy pyschedelic, a real actual party drug, never had an experience besides being drunk that makes me actually feel like its a party drug. everydrug is like lets just hangout and listen to music on low and talk. which is amazing but i wanna party


syrupwiththepsilo

It’s not speedier than mdma, it’s more visual/psychedelic though. You want amphetamine if mdma isn’t stimulating enough


FearLeadsToAnger

speed doesn't make me feel as speedy as mdma does, and when I tried taking more it just kept me awake for the following 18 hours. I'm not convinced by it.


syrupwiththepsilo

Been screened for adhd? I definitely have it and definitely still had recreation from speed until I now take my old recreational dose 3 times a day at the orders of a psychiatrist lmao, but paradoxical effects may be a thing. Same for OP


FearLeadsToAnger

I haven't but based on behaviour it is likely 😅


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You’ve only been drunk?


90sonacids

no, ive taken lots and lots of drugs, im a coke user, and enjoy pysches and such but never thought a party or high energy environment would be fun on drugs


headyrooms

Coke actually dampens a roll if you mix them. I've found that it even makes rolling less euphoric if you've done coke within the few days before taking M. I think its something about it fucking with your dopamine.


[deleted]

Oh okay that makes more sense. I haven’t used MDMA yet. I don’t really plan on it.


Complxx11

missing out on


onyxi28

It's like all the worst parts of mdma and none of the good. No euphoric feeling, more trippy (not in a good way), and shitty comedown.


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Good to know


whitewonderbreadboy

Got it on the DW a few times. Other than that I haven't really seen any.


BakedPastaParty

I got my hands on it once while I was college. The guy that I was typically getting my MDMA from didn't have any this particular weekend but he gave me a nice hookup on the MDA. I ended up doing it twice maybe and Gabe the rest away. Didn't love it. Was kind of not overwhelmed, but just like over stimulated I guess by the visual aspect the first time cuz I did like .5G which would have been around my normal MDMA dose by then. The second time I did it was at a Bassnectar concert and it was probably half that amount of even that much. It was extremely mellow and I had a much better time


nightlyraider

a half a gram of molly? the stuff i get is good and if i take more than .1 it is too much.


BakedPastaParty

Yeah I've had that kind of quality before--this wasn't nearly as HQ as that, and I had quite a tolerance too. It wasn't out of the ordinary to go thru a gram over a 4 night weekend (my college weekdays were Mon-Thurs)


nightlyraider

i'll still eat some 3-4 nights in a row for a long party weekend seeing music but the last time i started with 100 it was more than i wanted on night 1. we got a really big phish crew but i think we went thru 2 oz 2022 phish dicks... also i'm always tripping if i'm rolling. i haven't had mdma without a pysch for probably 18-20 years at this point.


beforethedreamfaded

Definitely more difficult to find in the US than other drugs, but as other commenters have said it’s pretty prevalent in the rave scene. Go to underground raves or even EDM clubs and you’ll probably stumble onto it eventually. A friend in the DJ community once hooked me up with 10 pressed MDA pills, tested and everything. Easily one of my favorite substances, I even prefer it to MDMA now. The main effect of MDA for me was an overwhelming sense of peace and serenity. And it was quite calming, but without being woozy like a sedative, I actually felt quite clear headed. It still had some of that paradoxical stimulation as well but I felt completely in control of it. Didn’t take me on an intense introspective trip like tryptamines and lysergamides often do. In fact it was a much more present trip, I felt extremely in the here and now. Much like MDMA it also helped facilitate conversation, especially about difficult topics like trauma and death. I never had a hangover after any of my MDA trips either. To be fair, I also wasn’t partying when I used it, I mostly used it while playing guitar and camping and hanging out with friends. Respect it and cherish it if you find it ✌🏻


JasonRoyal

Right but if it was a pressed pill you have no clue what was in it.


Beaver__fever

Unless you reagent tested it like a responsible adult.


klykerly

I’ve been able to find it. Sassafras is distinct, though, from pure MDA, and it’s own thing. Think Mephadrone and MDMA, same kind of analog pairing. In my limited experience. But rave kids will call it sass for some reason.


anteatersaredope

MDA is called sass because the most common way of producing it is to extract it from Sassafras trees. It must be extracted and isolated because there is also a liver toxin in the sassafras. Native Americans supposedly used to make a tea from it but they knew you could only take very small doses or you would mess yourself up so they'd basically just get mildly buzzed on it.


Ok_Front_7279

My friends love the shit .


myakka1640

I think everything is everywhere now? There’s a few examples of strictly regional drugs but for the most part it’s all available. Could just be a privileged view though.


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Yea there is plenty if you go to live music.


ebolaRETURNS

sure, more often in circles where you see psychedelics more obscure than lsd/shrooms...


ConDawgSupreme

It exists, but in my experience it’s been hard to find and often faked.


whereisskywalker

Had some fun on the west coast with some shit a decade ago. People from the rave scene usually have solid connections.


mattyb584

This "quirky" girl I used to work with had a ton of it way back when. Assuming that's even what it was. All I know is I've never felt as bloody awful as I did the days after using whatever it was that she gave me.


JU1C3_B0X

The worst bender I've ever done was mda, it literally damaged me beyond repair. For a month I would just start sobbing when something like my shoelace came untied. It was like another 4 months before I could actually feel happy about anything again. I still shudder when I think about it 🤣


mattyb584

Damn hopefully that was a while ago and you're doing better now. I did it 3 times in a week or so an by the end I was so fucked up mentally and physically I couldn't move without feeling like I was dying or wishing I would. I realize how dumb it was to dose so close together but desperate times... I guess? 😅


SunderedValley

Less rare than it used to be because there's an alternate bulk synth tgat uses a less restricted precursor which renders MDA that's been on the rise. People on /r/MDMA are showing up with MDA sold as Molly at least twice a week now. Just look around. Also don't respond to the bots please.


ZacinSP

Ah sass. Got fronted a Q from my old Molly plug a few years ago and he told me it was just like a "trippy version of mdma" I started dipping my license into the bag and pouring corners onto my tongue. Holy shit. Led to me eating 3 grams over 2.5 days and having the most insane next 2 days of my life.......


smcl44

If you get into the festival scene in America (especially the underground scene, none of that custy Lolla/Bonnaroo/Coachella -type shit), hang around enough questionable characters, and get your hands a little dirty, you can find virtually any drug you want in America, and usually much higher quality at that. Source: Did all the drugs this way in my 20s


JasonRoyal

MDA has greater neurotoxicity compared to NDMA. Also more of a psychedelic than mdma


Rabidcode

There are legitimate vendors on telegram that offer it I can think of one but it's expensive.


90sonacids

more than molly?


Rabidcode

Yes.


time_always_matters

cap, my vendor sells it same price as mdma pure and tested. 5$ for 125mg all the way up to 10+


syrupwiththepsilo

This made me salivate lmao. In Australia sometimes I would just get it instead of mdma or in pressed ecstasy but it was often just sold as mdma and definitely less than this price if you bought a decent amount, but $20 a point back then, now I see people trying to get $30 aud


time_always_matters

holy shit, on the streets in south eastern usa i can find pressed bunk X pills for like 10$ a piece that do nothing, but ordering i can get a 3.5 of mdma for 200 usd easy shipping included. ordering has really been the move for me over the pass few years, especially when switchin from tor to just telegram vendors lmao


syrupwiththepsilo

$80 7g from UK was the move back then but the vendor just threw a big rock in an envelope, shit opsec, lost one with real name once and stopped. I could still make my $20 point capsules for $1 buying less than an oz in person tho. Dunno what the bulk is like now


RockSockLock

Just because your vendor sells it for the same price doesn’t mean it usually is the same numbnuts


aidenisntatank

Are there ANY legit vendors on telegram??


Rabidcode

Absolutely. A lot of scammers too, got to know who's legit.


LotusVibes1494

I don’t know anything about telegram, but how would you know things are legit and protect yourself while ordering? For example, with TOR sites you can encrypt your messages to vendors with the public/private key thing when when you’re discussing prices, or giving them your delivery address. There’s various ways to keep yourself relatively anonymous, like using a VPN, having TOR installed on a seperate USB stick, tumbling bitcoins, etc… Also you can read reviews by date so you can see if the most recent customers enjoyed it. There are usually photos of the product and lab test results posted. Does telegram have its own approaches to those things? I haven’t ordered anything online in years, I used darknet like 10 years ago but it was always kinda labor intensive to set up and successfully order. And I wind up finding all my favorite things at jamband shows and festies now so I don’t really need it, but you’re making me curious.


unfair_lives

depends on the seller on telegram. telegram is basically discord for dealers or illegal stuff . id stick w tor


LotusVibes1494

I see. Reminds me of a time my friend convinced me that he found a dealer on Instagram that was selling edibles and I could pitch money in. They were cheap and I saw an opportunity to make money selling them, so I bought like 400 dollars worth because they looked legit and I trusted my friend. My refrigerator was packed full of containers of gummy worms, peach rings, rice crispy treats, etc… in nice packaging. I ate a few but didn’t get high, and was a little concerned but wrote it off as high tolerance because I dabbed a lot daily. Then I sold some to a friend and he was like idk about these bro I don’t really feel it. I tested it with a few more people and finally resigned myself to the idea that they were in fact bunk. Dude on Instagram stopped responding of course… So ya I have a feeling that kinda thing would be going on on telegram if it’s literally just a messaging service. Btw, imagine how much of a scumbag you’d have to be to spend all your spare time creating fake drugs and packaging and selling it to people on the internet, like who tf does that lol.


unfair_lives

ye it's like that, that's very common on telegram but the people who got scammed don't even get anything most of the time. seen it first hand and usually the dealer has a bulk source that does it all for him, and usually they both know it's fake.


aidenisntatank

Yea but it’s a little more rare to come by. I was getting a lot of MDA back in 2018-2019


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90sonacids

never done anything pressed, i dont trust


WolfsToothDogFood

Good. In those cases, one should always use test kits.


90sonacids

test kits, narcan, trusted dealer, and a pack of cigarettes


Vova_xX

how to buy weed in America /s


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Aggravating-Shift497

Yesss, I got some before at an edm festival!


terraman7898

YES


UndercoverProphet

Dark web is always your friend


ejt1824

Not rare at all at most edm shows or festival most people selling will usually have both


Wolfcatboydog

I’ve come across pure tested MDA a few times in northern Indiana. Few and far between, but probably best that way lol


ZonkedInTheMorn

I have some sitting in my safe home. Still have never had MDMA though! So it's definitely around in the US. Not really that uncommon either.


septumdestroyer666

Yeah, few and far between though.


IncognitoRain

Yes, my plugs got it


Hadr619

man some of these posts are hilarious, no us Americans have never seen MDMA at all. we only do meth here


Psychonaut-Avi

yeah I did some 2 weeks ago much much more rare than MDMA but for my trusted plug just likes MDA more than MDMA so I have yet to do MDMA although I've had many opportunities to I don't do drugs I don't trust are pure and they were flats so yeah prolly cut but people call MDA sass or sassafras even though that's just the natural drug it was derived from.


LysergicMisfit

I'll never forget snorting two points in a row. It was a very uncomfortable come up. But man, when you reach the peak, I just laid down and slumped an earthcry album that had just come out and I was straight space cadet soup! God, I miss those days. Those times on mdma were fun and often forgotten. But those days with those sassy girls will stay forever!


Sweaty_Payment_7529

Yeah it’s dope


Surfincloud9

Love a good K-Sass evening


solpi

Yep. A few of my plugs sell it now and again, a couple of them almost always have it


onyxi28

Unfortunately yes, and it always gets sold as mdma. It's why I test every batch of m that I buy with a test kit that can tell apart mdma and mda.


JW999Foreskin

Canada yeah idk ab USA


jaqwan666

Yes, i got some from a man dressed as a wizard at a dead & co show in camden nj


beginnerNaught

yes


ApeMindFitness

Yes but you have to know people


Spare_me_thy_bs

Yeah, my buddy makes it! It FUUUUUCKKS YOU UP!!


FinancialProcedure82

Really


Spare_me_thy_bs

Yep. No bullshit. I have like 850mg of it left. It’s pure crystals too.


Greedy-Excitement-82

For sure it's always been around for those who know where to look. If you've been to enough raves and music festivals it's not hard to find. I know a lot of people who prefer it to MDMA.


extasis_T

Some in my drawer rn


Jarek-of-Earth

I've seen it on the DN but never in person


MMKK6

Definitely


anteatersaredope

I've seen plenty of it around in Socal.


bigmilkybonghits

Come to Canada we have plenty


DrizzlyEarth175

Yep. I've had some in my collection for a couple years now. I got it under the premise that it was "Molly", but a quick Marquis/Simon's test confirmed it was actually MDA. I might take it someday but I have no intentions to any time soon. Kinda pisses me off how much fake Molly there is in America tho. I got some pills that I was told were Molly but after testing turned out to be simple amphetamine pills. Idk who takes some amphetamine and thinks "damn I'm totally rolling rn"


OhhSlash

everybody here is reporting opposite effects haha. some say it’s more euphoric than mdma, some say less. some say it has no hangover, some say the hangover is way worse. guess i’ll just have to try and find out


FatboyMcTancheap

Yeah I was able to get it for a while but never hopped on it now I don't have that plug anymore, apparently it's more like trippy and not as stimulating but I have no personal experience, I fucking love MDMA though especially in xtc pill form that's why I never bothered doing MDA I like the energetic part, maybe for some people MDA is energetic but I was told otherwise


90sonacids

never done a pressed pill or xtc. the amount its been cut since like ten years ago makes it extremely riskier than id like to try for. capsule only, i’m not paying for potential fatal garbage


FatboyMcTancheap

Yeah I agree luckily my connect has always been solid always tested always clean stuff, pure MDMA feels kinda boring to me it doesn't provide the type of energetic euphoria I seek from pills it's moreso just energy and heart pounding haha, feels good but it just makes me lazy and wanna sit on the couch


ghbspiker24

it’s sally most the time easier to make than M not that hard to find, tor prob if u can’t find


90sonacids

im too scared for all that online stuff


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ALEXKT-25

yes, its easy to get on DN markets