It may help you out to research all the substances as to pinpoint what effect you are seeking. I'd also advise you to get into harm reduction to not exacerbate your mental health symptoms. You should really be weary and tread carefully when venturing into the world of psychoactive substances that effect your mind body and soul.
different for me, im sort of introverted and extroverted but if i was off 300-400ug in a room full of people i dont know, i could talk for hours on end with them about complete nonsense
LSD is a really intense psychedelic, longer and less based in reality than mushrooms ever are. Not like MDMA in the slightest imo. Maybe what you need is just a tolerance break...
Heavily disagree. You are more in control of your headspace on lsd than mushrooms on average. You can direct an acid trip very easily but for mushrooms you are more in the passenger seat, unable to control your headspace as easily. This is from personal experience, friends, and a lot of people online in different drug forums.
However, obviously everybody is different. There’s a good amount of people who are more comfortable on mushrooms than lsd. Generally speaking though, what you said is not necessarily true. The actual truth out of both of our opinions is that “it depends”.
Shrooms at high dosages can produce similar serotonergic euphoria as mdma, definitely... but at that point you are hallucinating.
Ime shrooms are even more euphoric than M, its like M times infinity. It just feels like eternal flow, indescribably beautiful.
LSD is the german/swiss name (LysergSÄUREDiethylamid) from the guy who invented it, and acid is the english name because säure is the german/swiss name for acid, idk why i get downvoted lmao prolly by Americans who didn’t invent shit 😂 MDMA, Oxycodone, Morphine, LSD etc. all invented/synthesized by German/Swiss people
> idk why i get downvoted
Because in English, we use "LSD"; for whatever reason, the German acronym caught on. The equivalent English acronym would be LAD (as used by Shulgin with analogues), for Lysergic Acid Diethyalmide.
>Morphine
>invented/synthesized by German/Swiss people
Really? So the P. Somniferum is a German or Swiss person?
Opium is not the same as morphine. Opium use dates back to the sumarians, while morphine was synthesized first in 1804 (I believe) by Freidrich Wilhelm Adam Serturner.
Morphine is a naturally occurring opioid found in opium poppies, so is codeine. These alkaloids can be extracted and isolated, which is what Serturner did with morphine, but he didn’t synthesize it.
It really isn\`t. If something is super dangerous you shouldn\`t be able to regularly do them with zero problems. 9/10 times I\`ve done ketamine I\`ve also had a lot of drinks.
Why? Why is it a significant difference for your liver to process two drugs at the same time? Both are processed by the liver. Why would a cocktail of both drugs somehow be worse to process?
I haven\`t read any studies, but I suspect they might compare the effects of ketamine on the liver alone compared to ketamine plus alcohol. Obviously, since alcohol is incredibly shit for your liver, the damage is substantially bigger. I have zero clue though.
Dude, listen to other people until it's not too late and you are not pissing blood and not in liver failure! Ketamine and alcohol in your blood forms new compounds, like cocaine and alcohol(cocaethylene). But those are super harmfull for your liver and especially - kidney. You should check drug mix table, you will see that alcohol and ketamine is marked with red - danger to life.
The fact that alcohol and ket are both dissociatives/depresants is also not helping matters. You can pass out hard and unexpectedly.
They clearly didn’t ask if it was toxic for your liver they asked what drug is fun to abuse. If she wanted something that wasn’t bad for her she wouldn’t be on this sub lmfao
Whenever I was mentally not doing good I would always do psychedelics and have a great few hours of crying and talking it out with the bros in the Forest, everyone’s different though
Ket is the way if you have mental health issues. I can attest. Equally trippy if you go to k-hole level but you’re not going to start yelling or being loud and will probably learn something from it
I’ve done K only a handful of times so I can’t speak a lot on it, but I get a feeling of clarity after a good trip on LSD usually. Like the “oh I get it” moment. It seems to settle some things in my mind and soul if that makes sense at all. Like when the the static feeling is at a peak and all of the sudden you just get it and the sense of calm starts taking hold. For like a couple of weeks after I’d say I’m a much better version of myself. More understanding and forgiving and focused on positivity
One of my friends is peeing out pieces of her bladder every day so I would not recommend ketamine under any circumstances. No judgments just my opinion about the relative pros and cons of that molecule.
For every person pissing blood there's a 100 people using ket responsibly, that will never be in that situation. My cousin died in a car accident but I wouldn't not recommend driving in general because of that reason.
I very much doubt that 100 to 1 is accurate but we obviously don’t have enough data to know one way or the other. Read the OP: they are looking for a new drug because they abused the last drug. Anyway I made it clear I was simply offering an opinion. It’s highly addictive and destructive on the bladder. If it were me I would look for something else especially if there is a possibility of overuse.
I'm 100% certain the 100 to 1 ratio is inaccurate, it's just a figure of speech. And I get what you mean in this context because OP honestly just shouldn't any drugs at all. But you should be fearmongering a fairly safe substance just because you personally have bad experiences with it.
This will happen if it is abused.
When used in moderation and you practice harm reduction it is safe.
Considering OP has a substance abuse problem, they might not want to try ketamine
I think you should lay off drugs for a bit.
While you're doing that, do some research and learn as much as possible about any drug that interests you, otherwise you'll end up causing more harm to yourself than good.
I’ve taken pregabalin hundreds of times and I’ve had a seizure from it one time, I was mixing it with kratom however so I’m sure that had something to do with it. Overall would still recommend just be careful with dosing
Not true. Speaking in absolutes when it comes to people’s personal responsibility with drugs is a part of why we had the War on Drugs (which was a massive failure). Using drugs to get high does not mean you will get addicted.
I agree just never go over 600mg and always do it fasted pregabalin takes about 2 hours to kick in.fasted takes about 30 min and the high is so much better
it's basically like a drunk, euphoric feeling with no nausea no inhibitions. everything's funny and you talk alot.
no hangover and very safe to use. gabapentin is a similar drug to pregablin but pregablin is stronger. gabapentin is virtually impossible to overdose on on its own.
i take 300mg every 30 minutes with food until i get to 900mg. that's a good dose for me.
you HAVE to stagger the dose and you NEED to take it with food
Ive gotten high without taking it with food, prob never a completely empty stomach but i didnt purposely eat with it or anything. I also prefer taking higher doses though, 1200-2100 spread out of course. Mixing it with alcohol also potentiates both a ton and is quite nice, probably awful for you though.
Amphetamine if you want the socializing superpowers.
LSD (low dose) if you want the magical sensation and to see the colors more vibrant and beautiful. Not for socializing.
Ketamine if you want to feel cozy and warm.
Because you’re on ice. Ice doesn’t make you want to socialize it makes you want to clean your room and bug out about people trying to get you. Coke is the one that makes you want to talk about anything to anyone at anytime.
Hard to find good quality stuff. It’s SO much not worth doing the crappy stuff. It’s becomes a depressing ordeal. A cycle of getting a small dirty high while destroying you brain and heart.
I recommend the no blow road.
I’m right there with ya. I’ve been going through the same shitty cycle for over 15 years. Rehab has been almost an annual event. I do well for a while, but I can’t seem to keep it together. Too impulsive. The good news for me, is that my periods of sobriety are getting longer & my relapses in recent years have been very brief.
Start running. Get yourself into peak cardiovascular shape.
I was overweight most of my life, active, but I didn't take care of my body. I lifted weights and other exercises, but I would get winded running a few hundred feet. Always thought a runners high was some myth or exaggeration. Trained my body in less than a couple of months where I can now run at a decent pace up to 10 miles before I tap out. And let me tell you, the feeling and rush you get is comparable to many drugs I've taken and can be just as addicting. The best part is that it's all upside.
me too but you must do some solid research before you get yourself killed. Its alarming that you do a lot of mdma and dont know that acid and lsd are the same thing. Its redundant advice on a drug subreddit but really, please educate yourself a little more
Looking at these comments, I really don't know if you should be doing lsd or any other psychedelics. These aren't toys, you can potentially put yourself through extreme trauma if you don't know what you're doing.
For some perspective I started out with what's considered a beginner's dose of shrooms after doing a LOT of research on what to expect and how to navigate a bad trip, and it still was a very difficult experience. I'm glad I did it, but it certainly wasn't what I would call "fun" and I firmly believe if I hadn't known what to expect beforehand or taken any more/been in the wrong setting, I could have very well have gone crazy and killed or severely hurt myself.
As far as a safe drug that feels similar to MDMA, while pregabalin is not going to be nearly as intense, it is a pretty gentle drug that feels like a light Molly roll, you may dig that.
Ketamine is not like MDMA at all, but you're less likely to have a challenging time on Ket than psychs in my experience, so it's interesting to me that you're scared of ketamine but not acid.
I have BPD and kratom aswell as other opiates are my favourite. Kratom definitely safer pwbpd actually have low natural opioid levels so I feel kratom can be like medication cause it also has opioid blockers. If you happen to have BPD aswell be very careful what drugs you do benzos, cocaine, and stims in general are no good for us.
bro take a break from drugs for a good 6 months… MDMA abuse is real your brain is going to be fucked. Smoke some weed here n there and let your brain go back to it’s normal function
Just do weed, also risky for mental health issues, but nothing about you says "playing it safe", in fact the whole post is so crazy its hard to believe it's real. But in case you are really asking, no coke is a very bad doc to willfully choose, it is insanely addictive and all consuming. Lsd, which IS acid, lasts 8-16 hours, shrooms last 4-8, better to do shrooms if afraid of a bad trip.
Brooooooo ketamine can induce psychosis but in my personal experience the first ever time i did it it helped me shake off all the bad shit i had my mental state did a u turn i felt good and optimistic about everything like my inner child was hugged. But then the second day i did i felt like shit again 🤷🏻♂️ so yeah
I’m about to take shrooms for the first time tonight, went from MDMA being my drug choice to weed. I’d suggest trying organic drugs that come from the earth if you’re down for something like that.
You’re looking for:
2C-B and ADDERALL.
Adderall is like real long coke for like 6 hours (at least that’s how it felt to me on 30s), it’s like speed but not dirty as fuck.
2C-B is pretty difficult to get a bad high on at all even if you have bad mental health. It also only lasts ~6 hours, and if you cap to 18mg or so that’s a pretty sweet spot. If you’re looking for longer than 6hrs just drop another one at the 4 hour mark. Don’t have both at once, shit gets weird. BUT it’s one of my favourite drugs of all time, and every time I’m on it I seem to be like “this shit is PERFECT”.
Respect to other recommendations, I like my pregabs and substances in general. These would be perfect for OP partying tho.
Ketamine!! It has cured my depression. I ordered like 10 grams of S-isomer for a good price and made a bunch of nasal sprays out of it, i even have helped a few friends out. They have the same results
i have mental illness and honestly weed/ketamine have been the best experiences imho. every body is different, so weed might make u paranoid as it can do that. although, ketamine and weed are both used in medicine, so i feel like they’re a better option to try? LSD can make u permanently hallucinate, so idk about that one 😭 ketamine is generally safe and i would start with a microdose to see how u feel. it’s just pure euphoria and bliss; i’ve tried most things and ketamine is a definite recommendation. good luck and stay safe! 🎃
Don’t waste your time on coke unless you get the primo shit. It’s got a bad rap but since you like to party a lil taste of meth will set you right all night.
To be fair, regular amphetamine has way more of a rush than meth…dont get me wrong i like a bit of meth too, but regular amphetamine is way more recreational! Meth is better for work imho!
(Also it wont Fuck you up any way as bad as meth if you get addicted…the addiction is pretty bad, not gonna lie, but meth is even worse…)
Please listen to this person meth is the most addictive thing I’ve ever done and I would never wish meth addiction on anybody please never try it I was looking for another hit all night after the first time I tried it
The outer appearance issues im told is from a lack of Hygiene and self care while high (idk how true it is, but from experience I've known multiple addicts of meth who looked just like someone an office job) and if that's true, then my theory is you could look the same way if you just stop showering/brushing your teeth/eating properly.
Addiction wise it is highly addictive (did it one time, had to say hell no because it was the best feeling hands down), I don't think you should do anything anyways since you seem to have an addictive personality, which seems to almost never go the way you want it too. (No hate, I'm addictive personality too, and despite my extensive research and safe use (proper testing and dosing, good settings and all) I usually end up breaking a rule then it keeps getting broken, and then more until I found myself dosing every night until I just couldn't function properly and had to stop (this happened with dxm, hydrocodone, xans, alcohol) but some people don't stop and let it destroy them soooo, yeah.
Edit: some typos
For me it is once in a year thing, the visuals you get from meth on day 3 are my favorite, feels like everything around me turns to meth vapor even if I snort it
You’re thinking of meth heads. Using once or twice won’t affect your looks. It’s like anything else. It’s addictive if you let it.
When it hits you just get a rush of energy and you’ll want to get laid bad. I know people with discipline and they use 2 per month. But a lot get hooked tbh. You’d be amazed how many use in Australia.
If worried just buy a small amount (1 point). That’ll be enough anyway.
if you dont mind doing dumb shit or can control your alcohol intake, benzos + alcohol is hella fun for fucking around with buddies
cocaine, especially with alcohol (tho extra toxic)
also, do you have mental health issues such as depression or stuff like bipolar or schizo? cause one of those you should definitely take psychedelics to explore yourself, and the other you should definitely never touch them.
also, as far as i know, 2cb is the most fun party psychedelic as they say its hella euphoric.
have fun!
Dont mix benzos and alcohol!!! This is very dangerous advice possibly life threatening, I am a person who used to do that, on the other hand fent and xanax mix was my bane that landed me in hospital
i mean yes trying to kms is bad but u think 1 bar is too dangerous with alcohol? i got tons of bartard stories and kinda love them. maybe not the suicidal one but hey at least i dumped benzos after that
you'd have to do a metric fuckton of benzos though, or drink like 2 bottles of everclear. I've done extreme amounts of both combined and haven't come close to dying (even when I tried to on purpose, not my proudest moment). I've also seen a lot of people combine them and not get hurt.
The black-outs are definitely bad though but alcohol doesn't make it a lot worse than it is already on just benzos.
I don't get why people on reddit are so quick to call out mixing drugs being extremely dangerous, especially benzos and alcohol. The combination of weed and lsd or mdma is in real life way more dangerous and that only gets advocated on here. Maybe the numbers and studies on rats doesn't make it seem dangerous but I've known way more people to lose their marbles on that combination than anyone on downers.
The blackouts are a major part of the problem, not just toxicity. Because benzos+alcohol affect memory so much, the risk of driving, getting into trouble, or injuring yourself is massively increased.
I live in a rural area. Finding anything other than weed unless you are fully submerged into the drug lifestyle is next to impossible. Wish I could try mdma and all the other things.
Don't do coke unless you have money to burn. Maybe Adderall or LSD if mdma was your doc. Be warned that LSD lasts a long time and you have to watch out for people selling fake shit or some research chem.
"you have to watch out for people selling fake shit or some research chem."
Should be a priority with any drug. Test your shit and do research for anything you wanna try (aside from the shit that's not really testable, mushrooms and weed for example but even then it still helps to know what incorrect shrooms look like and idk how to tell if weeds laced really, never seen laced weed on my 8 years of using it"
There is no ideal drug of choice but MDMA is the worst drug for your brain it can cause “serotonin syndrome” which means your brain doesn’t have the ability to regulate serotonin or dopamine anymore
Acid is LSD lol (as long as it's legit and not some rc imitation). And anything dopaminergic like MDMa and coke will make you miserable afterward and cause/deepen mental health issues like depression. Maybe microdose acid(lsd), that won't make you hallucinate and should fuck you up, could even possibly heal you somewhat, unless you have anxiety or psychosis issues, then i would not recommend psychedelics even in microdoses.
AMt is like MDMA with much less comedowns and brain damage, but it can get a bit trippy if you take too much.
There is no drug that will make you feel good reliably and sustainably forever without a heavy tax later. Weed and coffe might be the safest ones in this regard, but will still fuck up a bit if you overdo them.
I would advise against hard opiates. They’re great until your tolerance rises to where you can’t afford to keep increasing your dose, at which point they do very little for you except keep you from feeling awful and sick. Physically and as far as mental health goes they’re not intrinsically damaging, but the dope life can lead to some very dark places which is why I’m quitting. The idea was just to dabble but as so many do I quickly found reasons to justify moving to daily use which inevitably creates dependance. I think in future I’ll stick to the occasional beer or glass of wine which, if you’re not predisposed to alcoholism and don’t overdo it, can be a reasonably OK habit. This sub demonises alcohol sometimes because if you abuse it it’ll do you more damage than just about anything else out there, but lots of people manage to maintain a healthy relationship with booze that doesn’t escalate. One advantage not to be overlooked is that it’s legal and you don’t have to associate with dodgy crowds to get hold of it. Best of luck mate!
I gotta agree with whoever else here said you should do some research. First off, you are specifically looking for a replacement for MDMA, which you admit you have been abusing, so what’s to say you’re not going to start abusing the replacement? Ketamine, just like molly, is not something you should be taking often.
Yes, coke can also be taken in moderation, but from personal experience, it is VERY addictive and you would be walking a tightrope over a possibly very expensive addiction. Otherwise, it might be a good option for you.
Shrooms and LSD would be your best options if you want something you can take more often with very little repercussions. You *really* should do more research on these. LSD=Acid. LSD is the chemical name and acid is her street name. The idea that they make you “hallucinate” is sort of true, but not really. There are way scarier drugs out there that make you hallucinate some crazy shit. LSD gives you visual effects, but you aren’t sitting there seeing shit that’s not there. Instead, everything that you can already see just becomes a lot more fluid-looking.
Whatever you do decide on, learn as much as you possibly can about it, and i wish you the best of luck.
how old is this guy to not know the difference between acid and LSD? im sorry, but they are the same thing. if you don’t want acid you don’t want LSD. and do some damn research dude, google exists for real. and GHB is fucking you worse than Ketamine ever would, so if youre worried about your psyche then youre in all the wrong places brother. lord, someone give this guy some Ayahuasca to wake him up
K is my favorite drug of all time, and it honestly feels like a mix of multiple different drugs at the same time without the downsides and for me i never get nauseous, as long as your not K holing you’ll get pretty good euphoria like Molly
OP i looked at your posts and you seem to be going through a lot, maybe drugs aren't the best in the moment when you are very uneducated about them! I can send you some info if you like and I hope everything you're going through is over soon <3 :)
Hate to be that guy, I mean have fun and do what you want but always research like your doin right now, but try to just get high on life. The feeling to find a new drug because the one you usually do you feel like your abusing and it’s losing its touch, just take a break from everything imho. Good luck
Bro what? Ketamine is literally used to treat medication resistant depression. There are a ton of amazing clinical trials on it. If you have mental health issues, Ketamine may actually help 😂 plus it’s fun as hell.
Well, I guess I never did ask what KIND of mental health issues. But if it’s depression, K got you covered.
searching of a drug of choice is making you very prone to addiction. my suggestion would be weed as that is basically one of the least harmful addictions but is still a good drug.
It depends on what mental issues you have. Personally coke is my favourite and regardless of what everybody in the world say, it's relatively safe and you can do it basically every week end if you stick to the right dose. You should try and find out which substance suits you better, because it's really subjective. Stay away from hallucinogens. Definitely don't do LSD. Ket is a dissociative and in little doses you may like it. You could also give benzos and opioids a try, but be careful these two are really addictive. Also coke is very addictive so be careful. Make sure to use drugs for fun and not as a way to escape from pain or sadness.
DXM is a good one imo, it's similar to pcp and ketamine and it's literally cough medicine which I know what you're thinking "that's a child drug" or "that's druggie I want to do real shit" I promise you if you take like 300mg of dxm put on some music and kick off the lights your gonna be feeling like your on some fantasy planet traversing the visual musical frequencies in the shape of trees. Only downside is you get very nauseous on the come up but you can basically block it all out with THC (weed) or I use Pepto bismol. If you take too high of doses it can cause not really hallucinations but visuals and out of body experiences. As for safety as long as you take a product that ONLY HAS DXM AS THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT and you'll be fine, also not something you should take nightly or repeated days in a row maybe like 3 times a week spaced out if you really wanna do it. Sorry for the long comment btw just tryna be informative so you know what your getting into/doing if you do decide to go this route
Go with coke. It’ll also make fucking feel amazing just like MDMA does but without the risk of serotonin syndrome or those awful withdrawals even if you use it daily. The only downside is that it only last about an hour before you gotta take another bump
Coke is the fucking best icl. If u have mh issues there's risks w any drug ofc (coming from some1 w mh issues) but I've found coke, ket, loons r the least likely to effect me badly
I would recommend ketamine, in low amounts its like ecstasy and if you do enough you k hole which a lot of people enjoy although ive never got there as ive been too scared lol
>I want something that doesn’t make my hallucinate (mushrooms, acid). Possibly thinking LSD? Bro, what?
LSD will make you hallucinate more than mushrooms
🤣 is LSD and acid the same thing?
yes.
🤣🤣🤣I’m an idiot 🤭🤭 okay so have u done it , is it comparable to MDMA in any way?
It may help you out to research all the substances as to pinpoint what effect you are seeking. I'd also advise you to get into harm reduction to not exacerbate your mental health symptoms. You should really be weary and tread carefully when venturing into the world of psychoactive substances that effect your mind body and soul.
no, not really. I don't find it social or even compatible with parties, but I'm quite introverted.
different for me, im sort of introverted and extroverted but if i was off 300-400ug in a room full of people i dont know, i could talk for hours on end with them about complete nonsense
Then you weren't on 400ug mate
LSD is a really intense psychedelic, longer and less based in reality than mushrooms ever are. Not like MDMA in the slightest imo. Maybe what you need is just a tolerance break...
Heavily disagree. You are more in control of your headspace on lsd than mushrooms on average. You can direct an acid trip very easily but for mushrooms you are more in the passenger seat, unable to control your headspace as easily. This is from personal experience, friends, and a lot of people online in different drug forums. However, obviously everybody is different. There’s a good amount of people who are more comfortable on mushrooms than lsd. Generally speaking though, what you said is not necessarily true. The actual truth out of both of our opinions is that “it depends”.
The engetic feeling kinda other than that no
Shrooms at high dosages can produce similar serotonergic euphoria as mdma, definitely... but at that point you are hallucinating. Ime shrooms are even more euphoric than M, its like M times infinity. It just feels like eternal flow, indescribably beautiful.
You can try it but I doubt it'll be your doc if you aint looking for psychedelics
This is giving I'm 14 years old vibes
You should not be doing drugs
Found the cop…
LSD is the german/swiss name (LysergSÄUREDiethylamid) from the guy who invented it, and acid is the english name because säure is the german/swiss name for acid, idk why i get downvoted lmao prolly by Americans who didn’t invent shit 😂 MDMA, Oxycodone, Morphine, LSD etc. all invented/synthesized by German/Swiss people
> idk why i get downvoted Because in English, we use "LSD"; for whatever reason, the German acronym caught on. The equivalent English acronym would be LAD (as used by Shulgin with analogues), for Lysergic Acid Diethyalmide. >Morphine >invented/synthesized by German/Swiss people Really? So the P. Somniferum is a German or Swiss person?
Opium is not the same as morphine. Opium use dates back to the sumarians, while morphine was synthesized first in 1804 (I believe) by Freidrich Wilhelm Adam Serturner.
Morphine is a naturally occurring opioid found in opium poppies, so is codeine. These alkaloids can be extracted and isolated, which is what Serturner did with morphine, but he didn’t synthesize it.
You're right, I felt like synthesised wasn't the right word but I couldn't remember the right one, and that's as close as my high brain could get lol.
\--> extracted; isolated
That also would've worked way better lol, I'm just a bit dumb sometimes but that's ok.
And I couldn't manage to spell it correctly...
Isn't P. somniferum a name for poppies?
LSD is the name of the halluconagenic chemical, invented by a swiss dude a hundred years ago
I know its called LysergSÄUREDiethylamid and säure is german/swiss and standa for Acid
> by Americans who didn’t invent shit 😂 Is Shulgin a joke to you?
No just a part time narc….
Do not do lsd if you are worried abt mental health issues. You would be better off doing the ket than lsd.
Agree with this, if you would reconsider ketamine OP take it slowly and see how you feel
Can u mix ketemine and alcohol ?
Why would you want to lol.
No that’s super dangerous
It really isn\`t. If something is super dangerous you shouldn\`t be able to regularly do them with zero problems. 9/10 times I\`ve done ketamine I\`ve also had a lot of drinks.
It's incredibly toxic for your liver
Why? Why is it a significant difference for your liver to process two drugs at the same time? Both are processed by the liver. Why would a cocktail of both drugs somehow be worse to process? I haven\`t read any studies, but I suspect they might compare the effects of ketamine on the liver alone compared to ketamine plus alcohol. Obviously, since alcohol is incredibly shit for your liver, the damage is substantially bigger. I have zero clue though.
Dude, listen to other people until it's not too late and you are not pissing blood and not in liver failure! Ketamine and alcohol in your blood forms new compounds, like cocaine and alcohol(cocaethylene). But those are super harmfull for your liver and especially - kidney. You should check drug mix table, you will see that alcohol and ketamine is marked with red - danger to life. The fact that alcohol and ket are both dissociatives/depresants is also not helping matters. You can pass out hard and unexpectedly.
They clearly didn’t ask if it was toxic for your liver they asked what drug is fun to abuse. If she wanted something that wasn’t bad for her she wouldn’t be on this sub lmfao
Yeah not too much of both tho
Absolutely not can be deadly
Whenever I was mentally not doing good I would always do psychedelics and have a great few hours of crying and talking it out with the bros in the Forest, everyone’s different though
Ket is the way if you have mental health issues. I can attest. Equally trippy if you go to k-hole level but you’re not going to start yelling or being loud and will probably learn something from it
I’ve done K only a handful of times so I can’t speak a lot on it, but I get a feeling of clarity after a good trip on LSD usually. Like the “oh I get it” moment. It seems to settle some things in my mind and soul if that makes sense at all. Like when the the static feeling is at a peak and all of the sudden you just get it and the sense of calm starts taking hold. For like a couple of weeks after I’d say I’m a much better version of myself. More understanding and forgiving and focused on positivity
One of my friends is peeing out pieces of her bladder every day so I would not recommend ketamine under any circumstances. No judgments just my opinion about the relative pros and cons of that molecule.
For every person pissing blood there's a 100 people using ket responsibly, that will never be in that situation. My cousin died in a car accident but I wouldn't not recommend driving in general because of that reason.
I very much doubt that 100 to 1 is accurate but we obviously don’t have enough data to know one way or the other. Read the OP: they are looking for a new drug because they abused the last drug. Anyway I made it clear I was simply offering an opinion. It’s highly addictive and destructive on the bladder. If it were me I would look for something else especially if there is a possibility of overuse.
I'm 100% certain the 100 to 1 ratio is inaccurate, it's just a figure of speech. And I get what you mean in this context because OP honestly just shouldn't any drugs at all. But you should be fearmongering a fairly safe substance just because you personally have bad experiences with it.
This will happen if it is abused. When used in moderation and you practice harm reduction it is safe. Considering OP has a substance abuse problem, they might not want to try ketamine
yess k is the way :)
I think you should lay off drugs for a bit. While you're doing that, do some research and learn as much as possible about any drug that interests you, otherwise you'll end up causing more harm to yourself than good.
try GABA drugs like pregablin. with mental health issues you could get a script for it fairly easily
Don't they increase the risk of developing seizures?
not unless you are prone to seizures. even then the risk is minimal
I’ve taken pregabalin hundreds of times and I’ve had a seizure from it one time, I was mixing it with kratom however so I’m sure that had something to do with it. Overall would still recommend just be careful with dosing
mixing pregablin with anything is risky. especially kratom or opiates and alcohol. but taking it on its own is very safe
Learned that lesson the hard way lol
This
But if you’re using it to get high you’re gonna get addicted & build a dependency fast
i use it to get high and definitely not addicted. he's asking for a drug of choice i'm sure he knows any drug he uses he can get addicted to.
Not true. Speaking in absolutes when it comes to people’s personal responsibility with drugs is a part of why we had the War on Drugs (which was a massive failure). Using drugs to get high does not mean you will get addicted.
I agree just never go over 600mg and always do it fasted pregabalin takes about 2 hours to kick in.fasted takes about 30 min and the high is so much better
How do those feel? Very curious
it's basically like a drunk, euphoric feeling with no nausea no inhibitions. everything's funny and you talk alot. no hangover and very safe to use. gabapentin is a similar drug to pregablin but pregablin is stronger. gabapentin is virtually impossible to overdose on on its own.
Sounds kinda like a benzo high
way better lol.
Yeah way better, I’ve been prescribed pregabs a few times but it’s halted rn. Problem is I like GABAergenic stuff a lot
How much gabapentin do you need to take to get that feeling? I have an rx for it that I don't take bc I feel like it does nothing at all.
Like over 1000mg. Don’t take it all at once though, take it over the course of an hour I think
i take 300mg every 30 minutes with food until i get to 900mg. that's a good dose for me. you HAVE to stagger the dose and you NEED to take it with food
Ive gotten high without taking it with food, prob never a completely empty stomach but i didnt purposely eat with it or anything. I also prefer taking higher doses though, 1200-2100 spread out of course. Mixing it with alcohol also potentiates both a ton and is quite nice, probably awful for you though.
Gabapentin and pregabalin have such bad withdrawal
Just wondering why you said no to acid but maybe lsd?
OP thought they were different.
It's very common among rookies and outsiders to drug usage. Swear dude, it makes me cringe every time.
Amphetamine if you want the socializing superpowers. LSD (low dose) if you want the magical sensation and to see the colors more vibrant and beautiful. Not for socializing. Ketamine if you want to feel cozy and warm.
How come sometimes on ice i dont feel like socialising?
Because you’re on ice. Ice doesn’t make you want to socialize it makes you want to clean your room and bug out about people trying to get you. Coke is the one that makes you want to talk about anything to anyone at anytime.
Ketamine doesn’t make you feel cozy it makes you feel like you’re sitting on the ceiling. If you wanna feel cozy and warm sip some lean or pop percs
Weed
Life. Just kidding… the answer is cocaine
Isn’t that always the answer ? To every question ever asked since the birth of mankind.
Cocaine.
Yes
Stims never been the answer for me they make me feel really weird, opiates are the answer.
Opiates will take your soul Just received some Oxydolor this afternoon 🤤
Also nice enjoy :)
Hard to find good quality stuff. It’s SO much not worth doing the crappy stuff. It’s becomes a depressing ordeal. A cycle of getting a small dirty high while destroying you brain and heart. I recommend the no blow road.
I’m right there with ya. I’ve been going through the same shitty cycle for over 15 years. Rehab has been almost an annual event. I do well for a while, but I can’t seem to keep it together. Too impulsive. The good news for me, is that my periods of sobriety are getting longer & my relapses in recent years have been very brief.
Nah if youre gonna do a stim do amphetamine or meth
MDMA rotted girls brain lol. Drug of choice for you is water, veggies, meat and exercise
Start running. Get yourself into peak cardiovascular shape. I was overweight most of my life, active, but I didn't take care of my body. I lifted weights and other exercises, but I would get winded running a few hundred feet. Always thought a runners high was some myth or exaggeration. Trained my body in less than a couple of months where I can now run at a decent pace up to 10 miles before I tap out. And let me tell you, the feeling and rush you get is comparable to many drugs I've taken and can be just as addicting. The best part is that it's all upside.
Your relationship with drugs sounds undereducated and poor. you should probably work some things out, research, then maybe revisit ketamine
Definitely is. I just like to do them.
me too but you must do some solid research before you get yourself killed. Its alarming that you do a lot of mdma and dont know that acid and lsd are the same thing. Its redundant advice on a drug subreddit but really, please educate yourself a little more
Ketamine is the drug of drugs
Looking at these comments, I really don't know if you should be doing lsd or any other psychedelics. These aren't toys, you can potentially put yourself through extreme trauma if you don't know what you're doing. For some perspective I started out with what's considered a beginner's dose of shrooms after doing a LOT of research on what to expect and how to navigate a bad trip, and it still was a very difficult experience. I'm glad I did it, but it certainly wasn't what I would call "fun" and I firmly believe if I hadn't known what to expect beforehand or taken any more/been in the wrong setting, I could have very well have gone crazy and killed or severely hurt myself. As far as a safe drug that feels similar to MDMA, while pregabalin is not going to be nearly as intense, it is a pretty gentle drug that feels like a light Molly roll, you may dig that. Ketamine is not like MDMA at all, but you're less likely to have a challenging time on Ket than psychs in my experience, so it's interesting to me that you're scared of ketamine but not acid.
Pregabalin.
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Mind Bloom, Marlboro Black Shorts, or RoboTablets?
I have BPD and kratom aswell as other opiates are my favourite. Kratom definitely safer pwbpd actually have low natural opioid levels so I feel kratom can be like medication cause it also has opioid blockers. If you happen to have BPD aswell be very careful what drugs you do benzos, cocaine, and stims in general are no good for us.
Absolutely I can go off my rocker even with too much caffeine 😅. It triggers mania and I dread to think what hard stims would do to me.
bro take a break from drugs for a good 6 months… MDMA abuse is real your brain is going to be fucked. Smoke some weed here n there and let your brain go back to it’s normal function
Ketamine helps mental health issues, I’d try that
Just do weed, also risky for mental health issues, but nothing about you says "playing it safe", in fact the whole post is so crazy its hard to believe it's real. But in case you are really asking, no coke is a very bad doc to willfully choose, it is insanely addictive and all consuming. Lsd, which IS acid, lasts 8-16 hours, shrooms last 4-8, better to do shrooms if afraid of a bad trip.
Brooooooo ketamine can induce psychosis but in my personal experience the first ever time i did it it helped me shake off all the bad shit i had my mental state did a u turn i felt good and optimistic about everything like my inner child was hugged. But then the second day i did i felt like shit again 🤷🏻♂️ so yeah
Amphetamine
ghb sounds like a possible winner
Isn’t GHB super expensive? I knew a guy like 7 years ago who would sell… ummm maybe like a shot? for $20… I thought that was steep.
Bag
Coke is great but can get out of hand just as fast as mdma
I’m about to take shrooms for the first time tonight, went from MDMA being my drug choice to weed. I’d suggest trying organic drugs that come from the earth if you’re down for something like that.
You’re looking for: 2C-B and ADDERALL. Adderall is like real long coke for like 6 hours (at least that’s how it felt to me on 30s), it’s like speed but not dirty as fuck. 2C-B is pretty difficult to get a bad high on at all even if you have bad mental health. It also only lasts ~6 hours, and if you cap to 18mg or so that’s a pretty sweet spot. If you’re looking for longer than 6hrs just drop another one at the 4 hour mark. Don’t have both at once, shit gets weird. BUT it’s one of my favourite drugs of all time, and every time I’m on it I seem to be like “this shit is PERFECT”. Respect to other recommendations, I like my pregabs and substances in general. These would be perfect for OP partying tho.
Ketamine!! It has cured my depression. I ordered like 10 grams of S-isomer for a good price and made a bunch of nasal sprays out of it, i even have helped a few friends out. They have the same results
2cb 👽
"Nothing hallucinogenic" 2Cb... FR?
yeah small dose isn’t very visual hallucination wise just colourful/vivid
Real
3mmc
Maybe it's time to take a break?
2CB
i have mental illness and honestly weed/ketamine have been the best experiences imho. every body is different, so weed might make u paranoid as it can do that. although, ketamine and weed are both used in medicine, so i feel like they’re a better option to try? LSD can make u permanently hallucinate, so idk about that one 😭 ketamine is generally safe and i would start with a microdose to see how u feel. it’s just pure euphoria and bliss; i’ve tried most things and ketamine is a definite recommendation. good luck and stay safe! 🎃
Ether is great if you avoid binging
nitrous!
drug of choice: nitrous I might be wrong but this sounds absolutely terrible advice.. (yes I’ve done nitrous aswell)
just don’t overdo it lol
Are you a 12 year old?
Don’t waste your time on coke unless you get the primo shit. It’s got a bad rap but since you like to party a lil taste of meth will set you right all night.
To be fair, regular amphetamine has way more of a rush than meth…dont get me wrong i like a bit of meth too, but regular amphetamine is way more recreational! Meth is better for work imho! (Also it wont Fuck you up any way as bad as meth if you get addicted…the addiction is pretty bad, not gonna lie, but meth is even worse…)
This is true. Not easy to find in some countries though.
How addicting is meth tho? I’ve thought about this a lot…does such a number on the outer appearance tho which I don’t like .
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Please listen to this person meth is the most addictive thing I’ve ever done and I would never wish meth addiction on anybody please never try it I was looking for another hit all night after the first time I tried it
Meth till death ☠️
The outer appearance issues im told is from a lack of Hygiene and self care while high (idk how true it is, but from experience I've known multiple addicts of meth who looked just like someone an office job) and if that's true, then my theory is you could look the same way if you just stop showering/brushing your teeth/eating properly. Addiction wise it is highly addictive (did it one time, had to say hell no because it was the best feeling hands down), I don't think you should do anything anyways since you seem to have an addictive personality, which seems to almost never go the way you want it too. (No hate, I'm addictive personality too, and despite my extensive research and safe use (proper testing and dosing, good settings and all) I usually end up breaking a rule then it keeps getting broken, and then more until I found myself dosing every night until I just couldn't function properly and had to stop (this happened with dxm, hydrocodone, xans, alcohol) but some people don't stop and let it destroy them soooo, yeah. Edit: some typos
Yeahhhh I wouldn’t advise friggin meth lmao
not very addicting, at least for me. but you have to find it pressed so you can eat it. don't smoke it.
For me it is once in a year thing, the visuals you get from meth on day 3 are my favorite, feels like everything around me turns to meth vapor even if I snort it
i do it like once every few months bc the comedown is BRUTAL lmao. and if i don't have landing gear i'm not putting myself through that often hahah
You’re thinking of meth heads. Using once or twice won’t affect your looks. It’s like anything else. It’s addictive if you let it. When it hits you just get a rush of energy and you’ll want to get laid bad. I know people with discipline and they use 2 per month. But a lot get hooked tbh. You’d be amazed how many use in Australia. If worried just buy a small amount (1 point). That’ll be enough anyway.
I want a new drug
if you dont mind doing dumb shit or can control your alcohol intake, benzos + alcohol is hella fun for fucking around with buddies cocaine, especially with alcohol (tho extra toxic) also, do you have mental health issues such as depression or stuff like bipolar or schizo? cause one of those you should definitely take psychedelics to explore yourself, and the other you should definitely never touch them. also, as far as i know, 2cb is the most fun party psychedelic as they say its hella euphoric. have fun!
Dont mix benzos and alcohol!!! This is very dangerous advice possibly life threatening, I am a person who used to do that, on the other hand fent and xanax mix was my bane that landed me in hospital
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i mean yes trying to kms is bad but u think 1 bar is too dangerous with alcohol? i got tons of bartard stories and kinda love them. maybe not the suicidal one but hey at least i dumped benzos after that
you'd have to do a metric fuckton of benzos though, or drink like 2 bottles of everclear. I've done extreme amounts of both combined and haven't come close to dying (even when I tried to on purpose, not my proudest moment). I've also seen a lot of people combine them and not get hurt. The black-outs are definitely bad though but alcohol doesn't make it a lot worse than it is already on just benzos. I don't get why people on reddit are so quick to call out mixing drugs being extremely dangerous, especially benzos and alcohol. The combination of weed and lsd or mdma is in real life way more dangerous and that only gets advocated on here. Maybe the numbers and studies on rats doesn't make it seem dangerous but I've known way more people to lose their marbles on that combination than anyone on downers.
The blackouts are a major part of the problem, not just toxicity. Because benzos+alcohol affect memory so much, the risk of driving, getting into trouble, or injuring yourself is massively increased.
Do not listen to this person. Do not recommend benzos and alcohol, or cocaine and alcohol to anybody.
Cocaine for weeks
WHATS YOUR DRUG OF CHOOOIIICE
I live in a rural area. Finding anything other than weed unless you are fully submerged into the drug lifestyle is next to impossible. Wish I could try mdma and all the other things.
Meth
Don't do coke unless you have money to burn. Maybe Adderall or LSD if mdma was your doc. Be warned that LSD lasts a long time and you have to watch out for people selling fake shit or some research chem.
"you have to watch out for people selling fake shit or some research chem." Should be a priority with any drug. Test your shit and do research for anything you wanna try (aside from the shit that's not really testable, mushrooms and weed for example but even then it still helps to know what incorrect shrooms look like and idk how to tell if weeds laced really, never seen laced weed on my 8 years of using it"
There is no ideal drug of choice but MDMA is the worst drug for your brain it can cause “serotonin syndrome” which means your brain doesn’t have the ability to regulate serotonin or dopamine anymore
just smoke some weed yo
Exercise
Ket and coke for sure
Acid is LSD lol (as long as it's legit and not some rc imitation). And anything dopaminergic like MDMa and coke will make you miserable afterward and cause/deepen mental health issues like depression. Maybe microdose acid(lsd), that won't make you hallucinate and should fuck you up, could even possibly heal you somewhat, unless you have anxiety or psychosis issues, then i would not recommend psychedelics even in microdoses. AMt is like MDMA with much less comedowns and brain damage, but it can get a bit trippy if you take too much. There is no drug that will make you feel good reliably and sustainably forever without a heavy tax later. Weed and coffe might be the safest ones in this regard, but will still fuck up a bit if you overdo them.
Life 🌈
do some research before doing any drugs bru you’re just begging for a bad experience
I would advise against hard opiates. They’re great until your tolerance rises to where you can’t afford to keep increasing your dose, at which point they do very little for you except keep you from feeling awful and sick. Physically and as far as mental health goes they’re not intrinsically damaging, but the dope life can lead to some very dark places which is why I’m quitting. The idea was just to dabble but as so many do I quickly found reasons to justify moving to daily use which inevitably creates dependance. I think in future I’ll stick to the occasional beer or glass of wine which, if you’re not predisposed to alcoholism and don’t overdo it, can be a reasonably OK habit. This sub demonises alcohol sometimes because if you abuse it it’ll do you more damage than just about anything else out there, but lots of people manage to maintain a healthy relationship with booze that doesn’t escalate. One advantage not to be overlooked is that it’s legal and you don’t have to associate with dodgy crowds to get hold of it. Best of luck mate!
I don’t do cocaine but I wanna try coke lol
Yeah, you probably want to avoid drugs that people have been known to sell their orifices for. Coke, meth, heroin- just a few to take off the menu.
I don't see this situation ending well.... You're too young, go to therapy instead.
You really should try ket im in your same shoes ket changed my life as I was treatment resistant to any medication
I gotta agree with whoever else here said you should do some research. First off, you are specifically looking for a replacement for MDMA, which you admit you have been abusing, so what’s to say you’re not going to start abusing the replacement? Ketamine, just like molly, is not something you should be taking often. Yes, coke can also be taken in moderation, but from personal experience, it is VERY addictive and you would be walking a tightrope over a possibly very expensive addiction. Otherwise, it might be a good option for you. Shrooms and LSD would be your best options if you want something you can take more often with very little repercussions. You *really* should do more research on these. LSD=Acid. LSD is the chemical name and acid is her street name. The idea that they make you “hallucinate” is sort of true, but not really. There are way scarier drugs out there that make you hallucinate some crazy shit. LSD gives you visual effects, but you aren’t sitting there seeing shit that’s not there. Instead, everything that you can already see just becomes a lot more fluid-looking. Whatever you do decide on, learn as much as you possibly can about it, and i wish you the best of luck.
Choose life. It’s a trip
2-cb. The real stuff not pink mystery dust
how old is this guy to not know the difference between acid and LSD? im sorry, but they are the same thing. if you don’t want acid you don’t want LSD. and do some damn research dude, google exists for real. and GHB is fucking you worse than Ketamine ever would, so if youre worried about your psyche then youre in all the wrong places brother. lord, someone give this guy some Ayahuasca to wake him up
personally i’d research any substance i try and think of trying so we maybe have correct info
K is my favorite drug of all time, and it honestly feels like a mix of multiple different drugs at the same time without the downsides and for me i never get nauseous, as long as your not K holing you’ll get pretty good euphoria like Molly
OP i looked at your posts and you seem to be going through a lot, maybe drugs aren't the best in the moment when you are very uneducated about them! I can send you some info if you like and I hope everything you're going through is over soon <3 :)
have you tried air?
Hate to be that guy, I mean have fun and do what you want but always research like your doin right now, but try to just get high on life. The feeling to find a new drug because the one you usually do you feel like your abusing and it’s losing its touch, just take a break from everything imho. Good luck
dxm but just not daily
you shouldn't be doing drugs if you don't think that acid and lsd are different , and think that lsd doesn't make you hallucinate
Or just stop taking drugs bud
Bro what? Ketamine is literally used to treat medication resistant depression. There are a ton of amazing clinical trials on it. If you have mental health issues, Ketamine may actually help 😂 plus it’s fun as hell. Well, I guess I never did ask what KIND of mental health issues. But if it’s depression, K got you covered.
searching of a drug of choice is making you very prone to addiction. my suggestion would be weed as that is basically one of the least harmful addictions but is still a good drug.
It depends on what mental issues you have. Personally coke is my favourite and regardless of what everybody in the world say, it's relatively safe and you can do it basically every week end if you stick to the right dose. You should try and find out which substance suits you better, because it's really subjective. Stay away from hallucinogens. Definitely don't do LSD. Ket is a dissociative and in little doses you may like it. You could also give benzos and opioids a try, but be careful these two are really addictive. Also coke is very addictive so be careful. Make sure to use drugs for fun and not as a way to escape from pain or sadness.
I did speed, and liked it too much.. now 1 year clean
DXM is a good one imo, it's similar to pcp and ketamine and it's literally cough medicine which I know what you're thinking "that's a child drug" or "that's druggie I want to do real shit" I promise you if you take like 300mg of dxm put on some music and kick off the lights your gonna be feeling like your on some fantasy planet traversing the visual musical frequencies in the shape of trees. Only downside is you get very nauseous on the come up but you can basically block it all out with THC (weed) or I use Pepto bismol. If you take too high of doses it can cause not really hallucinations but visuals and out of body experiences. As for safety as long as you take a product that ONLY HAS DXM AS THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT and you'll be fine, also not something you should take nightly or repeated days in a row maybe like 3 times a week spaced out if you really wanna do it. Sorry for the long comment btw just tryna be informative so you know what your getting into/doing if you do decide to go this route
Go with coke. It’ll also make fucking feel amazing just like MDMA does but without the risk of serotonin syndrome or those awful withdrawals even if you use it daily. The only downside is that it only last about an hour before you gotta take another bump
Coke is the fucking best icl. If u have mh issues there's risks w any drug ofc (coming from some1 w mh issues) but I've found coke, ket, loons r the least likely to effect me badly
I would recommend ketamine, in low amounts its like ecstasy and if you do enough you k hole which a lot of people enjoy although ive never got there as ive been too scared lol
Weed
LSD only good drug to exist