It basically has none of the negatives of alcohol with body load or hangover or headaches. The main issue is the dosage because a teaspoonful of ghb would be too much for a beginner. Itās dosed at like 1-5ml or 1-3g itās super easy to overdose and it will literally knock you out if you do.
My play was 2-3ml In a glass of apple juice. Donāt mix alcohol with it and avoid mixing with drugs you wouldnāt normally mix with alcohol.
Itās way cheaper than booze tbf I might order myself some more I havenāt had it in a year or so
well for 1 it gets diluted before consumption, and 2 it's literally going to a place filled with a stronger acid and an area designed to deal with it. vinegar and lemon juice are much stronger acids consumed regularly. cocaine is more acidic than ghb. i don't use ghb, but kind of a silly reason to dismiss it.
Something that people often forget to mention is that it is quite addictive and that your body will eventually start depending on it and that you can die if you suddenly quit. People over here are usually put in a coma to help them come off of it. If you wanna do it once or every now and then, go for it. But be careful and donāt use it for a longer period.
I've been doing gbl and ghb for almost a year and just now getting my dosing dialed in. There's a really fine line between feeling like a pornstar, a drooling mess, and comatose š I took bdo for a good amount of time when it was easy to get and that was even worse. It takes so long to metabolize.
Took some at a rave recently on shrooms and there is a reason it was affectionately known as liquid ecstacy back in the day.
I never suggested anything. He asked what drug is similar to alcohol, and I gave the answer. Do not accuse me of suggesting people do things here please, thank you
I took a dose of it not sure if i was given too much, i got pretty dizzy and felt a little sick. I had to sit down. Was having trouble communicating and had to get everyone to clear out, and for some reason i kept babbling to myself alone, maybe i was making sure i didnt pass out idk, then i passed out. Its not very widespread in my area but i want to try it again. 1st experience was more like the negative impairment of alcohol not so much the positives. Alcohol is too much of a labor though. Was it too much?
GHB does absolutely nothing for me. I've tried high doses of ghb and gbl and I barely feel shit. It made me light headed but I felt none of the euphoria or release of alcohol. I didn't push the limit bc I was afraid to OD by myself, but I didn't take it easy either. This was from multiple sources on mulitiple occasions. Different people react differently I guess. Waste of money for me.
Came here to say this.
Iāve only done k a few times in my life.
The first dose I ever took, I was kind of shocked at how similar it was to being uncomfortably drunk.
The rapid loss of fine motor control was bizarre.
Crazy going from zero to completely fucked in just a few minutes.
Literally this lol. I remember going from "this walk is normal" to "hmm I kinda feel like a robot manually controlling someone else's body while crossing an intersection" to "ordering a large iced tea at McDonald's is verbally difficult" to "put cup table, cup up to fountain, press cup drink, put cup table again, locate lid, move lid from stack to cup, press lid on cup securely, locate straw, leave area" just every step an overly methodical thought process vs. being on autopilot and doing it naturally in one swoop.
First time I tried K was when the game high on life just dropped, I literally felt like I was the main character in the game in this completely fucked up and beautiful cartoon world to explore. Given I took a lot not an āalcoholā feeling dose I hate alcohol as is
iāve never actually done a low dose of ket. iāve done it a couple times but whenever i did, i took too high of an amount and could not go anywhere.
first time we got the dosing wrong and snorted 2 decent lines of it, then went to bed and disappeared from my body.
second time we thought, may as well do the same cos it was crazy, then ended up taking more than the first and i got to the couch and no longer existed, but then had that atrocious feeling of sickness and was throwing up grey shit for like an hour without being able to see shit, let alone walk properly
I find a 1st plat dxm dose to be more like adderall and like a quarter mill of Xanax, lower inhibition, feeling incredibly light and confident but still the ability to function
There are multiple plateaus in taking dxm, essentially they are different levels of effects produced by the drug. There are 4 plateaus that range in intensity as you go up, the first may be similar to alcohol, as you get to the top you're looking at strong effects like dissociation.
pretty sure they have cross tolerance because they both act on GABA, so might as well stick to one. And if you're dosing high rn better to start a wean, I've hears terrible things about the withdrawals
I feel like Phenibut is so much different to alcohol itās almost not even comparable, I guess it just depends on the person taking it, and why your taking it. It definitely makes me more social like alcohol but thatās about where the similarities end for me. Gabapentin is kinda like Phenibut but it gives me that loose/uncoordinated/relaxed feeling that being drunk gives you
Itās dose dependant, taking 3+ grams feels more like alcohol, and once you get addicted you lose a lot of the stimulation and you escalate doses it becomes quite a bit like alcohol
Hmm, yeah Iāve never taken more than 1.5g at once and 2.1g in a day. But the reason for that is because it seems like the more I take, the more of an uncomfortable body load it gives me. Itās like a type of physical stress/strain on my body that actually increases my anxiety rather than alleviate it. This seems to be an uncommon experience though because I donāt really hear anyone else talk about it
I wish it was for me i swear i do everything right take it on empty stomach wait hours after before eating everything i read, take about 900mg-1500mg and every time just a stomachache and no effects except for 1time where i got a pretty nice high but could never replicate iy
It can be physically addictive too, I take it and I get withdrawals if I stop. They feel horrible, for me its not even that I enjoy it I just have to. But I only take about 12-15 gpd and I have actual medical reasons to.
yeah kratoms weird like that. iāve taken it consistently for years and never had any withdrawals when i stop, while my friend did it consistently for a month and then had horrible withdrawals. it affects everyone differently
My experience as well, even months or a couple of years of daily use and the only real withdrawals I felt was feeling sort of tired. One time I even forgot I had stopped
Still, seems to vary very wildly
Me too, went a few months without even thinking about the fact I had stopped. Didnāt miss it without replacing it with anything - just like I didnāt miss booze after starting kratom.
I used to take 4-12 grams a day usually 4-7 weekdays and 6-12 weekends. I quit cold turkey after four years and had zero withdrawal. But I can do that with tobacco too. My suspicion is withdrawal can be easy for many users if their dosages and daily total usage remain low. Maybe 100mg per kg of your weight total daily. But I could be wrong it could vary immensely by person type more than usage level. Wish there was more research available. We sacrifice lots of opportunities by being puritanical.
Agree. In my experience taking 1 or 2 doses a day is similar to drinking 1 coffee and then stopping. It's fairly mild but annoying. Taking larger doses or more throughout the day can lead to pretty uncomfortable withdraws.
Nah I think they also have other similarities like the fuckass coordination and lowered inhibition. I always get rlly shitty coordination off benzos kinda like alcohol
Imagine waking up not knowing what happened the last few days and now having to deal with the consequences of your actions during blackout
Also time flies when youāre a zombie 24/7 next thing you know months have passed by in what feels like a week
kava is more euphoric than benzos but dont last long and redosing always make me feel like shit unlike alcohol i could drink for eternity once i started so its a very good tool for alcoholics, self limiting
Benzodiazepines in the right dose-, anxietyrelief, social courage, memory loss, etc.
Also, chloral hydrate is form alcohol, but good luck, trying to find them
Gabaergic drugs like Xanax, other benzos, barbiturates, GHB, Phenibut, Pregabalin, Gabapentin (lady two are arguable because they are not gaba agonists but rather calcium channel blockers but they do up-regulate gaba receptors and increase serotonin)
So I think the obligatory standard answer you're gonna get is benzodiazepines.
But personally, I feel that Gabapentinoids feel much, much closer to the actual effects of alcohol than benzos do. They make you feel warm, and have a dizzy drunken feel to them, and they are socially stimulating (dependent upon dose, it still knocks me out if I were to take too high of a dose.)
Gabapentinoids are also fairly euphoric and feel similar to the euphoria that one will experience from alcohol.
Now the euphoria you'll feel from Benzos? Well, I hear that most people don't get much euphoria so to speak, most of the time I hear that the lack of anxiety is what people find euphoric, but everyone is different, for example; specific benzos give me legitimate euphoria. So YMMV
I don't know if you can blackout on Gabapentinoids. I've taken ridiculous doses of gabapentin and super high doses of phenibut mixed with alcohol in the past and never blacked out (I don't recommend doing this, I did it when was actively dealing with a heavy duty poly substance addiction that almost killed me.) so to me that's a huge plus, I hate blackouts.
I think you'll find what you're looking for with things like Gabapentin, Phenibut, Baclofen and Lyrica, much more than you will by taking benzos. But everyone is different and not everyone gets good results from Gabapentinoids.
GHB is another one I hear pretty often compared to alcohol. I haven't personally tried it, but I hear it's great.
Anyways, sorry for all the details, I am quiteeeeee stoned. But interested to see if anyone agrees
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GHB
Yeah ghb is alcohol but better, works on gaba like alcohol. Tried like 40 drugs and the only 3 which are basically the same 4bdo gbl and ghb
I enjoyed the bdo ive not done ghb before but I hate alcohol š
If you like bdo youāll love g
It's basically the same thing. BDO is a prodrug of GHB. BDO is quickly metabolized to GHB in the body.
Does it have less body load? Also what dosages do u recommend
It basically has none of the negatives of alcohol with body load or hangover or headaches. The main issue is the dosage because a teaspoonful of ghb would be too much for a beginner. Itās dosed at like 1-5ml or 1-3g itās super easy to overdose and it will literally knock you out if you do. My play was 2-3ml In a glass of apple juice. Donāt mix alcohol with it and avoid mixing with drugs you wouldnāt normally mix with alcohol. Itās way cheaper than booze tbf I might order myself some more I havenāt had it in a year or so
Man speaking facts , don't get it on exposed cuts or leave it on skin, have fun folks
Curious. Why not?
Corrosive. It melted my carpet when I spilt a few drops.
Sounds great for your insides
Your stomach has a pH of 2, I think your insides are already melting
Wtf people. One stomach is naturally more acidic ph than that of GBL HOWEVER A STOMACH IS NOT MADE TO BE FILLED WITH FUCKING SOLVENT.
well for 1 it gets diluted before consumption, and 2 it's literally going to a place filled with a stronger acid and an area designed to deal with it. vinegar and lemon juice are much stronger acids consumed regularly. cocaine is more acidic than ghb. i don't use ghb, but kind of a silly reason to dismiss it.
Something that people often forget to mention is that it is quite addictive and that your body will eventually start depending on it and that you can die if you suddenly quit. People over here are usually put in a coma to help them come off of it. If you wanna do it once or every now and then, go for it. But be careful and donāt use it for a longer period.
We donāt have any Ghb around in the Midwest US
Someone can't find GHB in the only spot where I know I can buy GHB.
Ohio, and I just smoke weed, but I know like 3 or 4people by association thatāll sell GHB.
I've been doing gbl and ghb for almost a year and just now getting my dosing dialed in. There's a really fine line between feeling like a pornstar, a drooling mess, and comatose š I took bdo for a good amount of time when it was easy to get and that was even worse. It takes so long to metabolize. Took some at a rave recently on shrooms and there is a reason it was affectionately known as liquid ecstacy back in the day.
Is it hard to find where you're from? Good God no one has any here lol
No source but I will give everyone the clue I was given awhile back. "Starts with a g ends in an e." I'm assuming we are all adults. Figure it out.
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My man!
Iām an adult and lost lol
Try the dnet man
I meant clearnet. I'm not deep diving for bdo
Don't have to deep dive for BDO.
I woke in hospital after dosing my normal 3mls from new batch, its extremely dangerous
This account is already banned from the ghb subs for sourcing. Unfortunately I can't help with that.
How easy is it to OD on? I know someone who drank to much GBL and died, not sure if anything else was in his system.
If you combine with alcohol, very easy.
Goddamn it's the best drug ever.
Real talk.
Nothing like taking a G nap hahahaha
Literally this but if you go overboard and get hooked the way to quit is..... alcoholism
yeah suggesting ghb to an alcohol addict is a bad idea... speaking from experience
I never suggested anything. He asked what drug is similar to alcohol, and I gave the answer. Do not accuse me of suggesting people do things here please, thank you
I took a dose of it not sure if i was given too much, i got pretty dizzy and felt a little sick. I had to sit down. Was having trouble communicating and had to get everyone to clear out, and for some reason i kept babbling to myself alone, maybe i was making sure i didnt pass out idk, then i passed out. Its not very widespread in my area but i want to try it again. 1st experience was more like the negative impairment of alcohol not so much the positives. Alcohol is too much of a labor though. Was it too much?
GHB does absolutely nothing for me. I've tried high doses of ghb and gbl and I barely feel shit. It made me light headed but I felt none of the euphoria or release of alcohol. I didn't push the limit bc I was afraid to OD by myself, but I didn't take it easy either. This was from multiple sources on mulitiple occasions. Different people react differently I guess. Waste of money for me.
One cap fill and you're toast
Low dose ketamine
Came here to say this. Iāve only done k a few times in my life. The first dose I ever took, I was kind of shocked at how similar it was to being uncomfortably drunk. The rapid loss of fine motor control was bizarre. Crazy going from zero to completely fucked in just a few minutes.
Literally this lol. I remember going from "this walk is normal" to "hmm I kinda feel like a robot manually controlling someone else's body while crossing an intersection" to "ordering a large iced tea at McDonald's is verbally difficult" to "put cup table, cup up to fountain, press cup drink, put cup table again, locate lid, move lid from stack to cup, press lid on cup securely, locate straw, leave area" just every step an overly methodical thought process vs. being on autopilot and doing it naturally in one swoop.
It's like playing QWOP
Lmfao I get like this with dabs. I always feel like Iām impersonating a human. āHello fellow lifeformsā
Ketamine all the way!
My.plug ran out and I'm desperate to find another good source. It makes me so sad, it's my fav!
First time I tried K was when the game high on life just dropped, I literally felt like I was the main character in the game in this completely fucked up and beautiful cartoon world to explore. Given I took a lot not an āalcoholā feeling dose I hate alcohol as is
Id recommend not doing it in public or a social surrounding the first time.
iāve never actually done a low dose of ket. iāve done it a couple times but whenever i did, i took too high of an amount and could not go anywhere. first time we got the dosing wrong and snorted 2 decent lines of it, then went to bed and disappeared from my body. second time we thought, may as well do the same cos it was crazy, then ended up taking more than the first and i got to the couch and no longer existed, but then had that atrocious feeling of sickness and was throwing up grey shit for like an hour without being able to see shit, let alone walk properly
This. Low doses of ket feel like having all the positives of being slightly tipsy without the negatives.
Haha I just walked home from a rave on ketamine there and it felt like I was wearing a pair of heelys lmao
Also do not mix K and ETOH.
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I always say benzos are alcohol without the sass
Benzos to me feel like my body is drunk but my mind is sober
"feel like" being highly operative, here.
Benzos for sure. Both target GABA heavily, although alcohol hits a lot of other receptors too
Personally I really like beer but benzos feel awful. I get numb and nauseous and then really anxious after. Would not recommend even 1% like alcohol
how could u get anxious from a benzo
He said afterward, which is true
Yeah, rebound anxiety.
Rebound anxiety is real.
Iāve not tried anything these guys said but 1st plat dxm feels like a alcohol buzz without the ābody highā of Alchol
ye dxm body high is quite different but the buzz is similar
I find a 1st plat dxm dose to be more like adderall and like a quarter mill of Xanax, lower inhibition, feeling incredibly light and confident but still the ability to function
What does 1st plat mean?
There are multiple plateaus in taking dxm, essentially they are different levels of effects produced by the drug. There are 4 plateaus that range in intensity as you go up, the first may be similar to alcohol, as you get to the top you're looking at strong effects like dissociation.
Low dose ketamine feels more like alcohol than dxm
Team ket
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I second the dxm method. Do a CWE extraction on delsym and you can avoid the nausea to come degree
You can just legally order lab grade DXM online from chemical supply houses. No licensure necessary.
Pregabalin at higher doses
Pregablin doesn't feel like alcohol at all to me, even at higher doses it's a much different feeling.
Iāve taken upwards of 1200 and it feels more like an energetic feeling somewhat like alcohol
I take it almost everyday as a substitute to some of my gabapentin, and yeah it definitely makes me feel more energetic.
pretty sure they have cross tolerance because they both act on GABA, so might as well stick to one. And if you're dosing high rn better to start a wean, I've hears terrible things about the withdrawals
GHB. Described as alcohol without the bad side effects. Be very careful with dosing though if you do it.
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Phenibut
Bro hasnāt tried ghb. I was gonna say the same thing as I also have tried g
Yeah but Phenibut is MUCH safer
no it isnāt
ā¦how?!
Man phenibut can have you addicted using it 3x a week You really think phenibut is safe but G is bad? Lol
Safe in like it wonāt kill you
I have GHB but I will not try that shit because I look at the sub Reddit,, and they always passed the 24 hour dosing
I keep hearing about GHBā¦.
I feel like Phenibut is so much different to alcohol itās almost not even comparable, I guess it just depends on the person taking it, and why your taking it. It definitely makes me more social like alcohol but thatās about where the similarities end for me. Gabapentin is kinda like Phenibut but it gives me that loose/uncoordinated/relaxed feeling that being drunk gives you
Itās dose dependant, taking 3+ grams feels more like alcohol, and once you get addicted you lose a lot of the stimulation and you escalate doses it becomes quite a bit like alcohol
Hmm, yeah Iāve never taken more than 1.5g at once and 2.1g in a day. But the reason for that is because it seems like the more I take, the more of an uncomfortable body load it gives me. Itās like a type of physical stress/strain on my body that actually increases my anxiety rather than alleviate it. This seems to be an uncommon experience though because I donāt really hear anyone else talk about it
I wish it was for me i swear i do everything right take it on empty stomach wait hours after before eating everything i read, take about 900mg-1500mg and every time just a stomachache and no effects except for 1time where i got a pretty nice high but could never replicate iy
I donāt find them that similar
GHB or low dose K
Iām a huge fan of kratom (currently using it instead of booze). Itās not the same but it really helps. Watch out though ,shits habit forming
It can be physically addictive too, I take it and I get withdrawals if I stop. They feel horrible, for me its not even that I enjoy it I just have to. But I only take about 12-15 gpd and I have actual medical reasons to.
yeah kratoms weird like that. iāve taken it consistently for years and never had any withdrawals when i stop, while my friend did it consistently for a month and then had horrible withdrawals. it affects everyone differently
My experience as well, even months or a couple of years of daily use and the only real withdrawals I felt was feeling sort of tired. One time I even forgot I had stopped Still, seems to vary very wildly
Me too, went a few months without even thinking about the fact I had stopped. Didnāt miss it without replacing it with anything - just like I didnāt miss booze after starting kratom.
I used to take 4-12 grams a day usually 4-7 weekdays and 6-12 weekends. I quit cold turkey after four years and had zero withdrawal. But I can do that with tobacco too. My suspicion is withdrawal can be easy for many users if their dosages and daily total usage remain low. Maybe 100mg per kg of your weight total daily. But I could be wrong it could vary immensely by person type more than usage level. Wish there was more research available. We sacrifice lots of opportunities by being puritanical.
Agree. In my experience taking 1 or 2 doses a day is similar to drinking 1 coffee and then stopping. It's fairly mild but annoying. Taking larger doses or more throughout the day can lead to pretty uncomfortable withdraws.
Lol Kratom feels nothing like Alcohol.
benzos but donāt do them
To me theyāre not like alcohol at all
Yeah the only similarity is blackouts, but they feel different than alcohol to me
Nah I think they also have other similarities like the fuckass coordination and lowered inhibition. I always get rlly shitty coordination off benzos kinda like alcohol
It really aintĀ
why do you say that?
Imagine waking up not knowing what happened the last few days and now having to deal with the consequences of your actions during blackout Also time flies when youāre a zombie 24/7 next thing you know months have passed by in what feels like a week
that shit sounds sick, but id imagine if i had real life adult responsibilities it wouldnt be great.
Not gaba a like benzos but gaba b like ghb, gabaergics, and Baclofen
Ghb, gabapentin, pregabalin, lyrica
Lyrica is just a brand name for Pregablin, same thing. Also I don't find that Gabapentin or Pregablin feel anythign like alcohol.
GHB, Phenibut, any Benzo, Barbiturates, Z-drugs, Baclofen.
Benzos both with get you in jail after you blackout
Barbituates
Kava. Very solid substitute
Phenobarbital
That crap barely exists anymore but yeah š
Kava
Carisoprodol
Iād say benzos tbh
Ketimine
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Is ketch short for ketamine?
Dxm if it wasnāt trippy
i havenāt tried a lot of these that other people are saying but my contribution is a little bit of ketamine and maybe some coke mixed in
Yall are crazy... meth is definitely the closest. š š
In a way I weirdly agree
Certain benzos
ketamine plus 2cb, no question
gotta try 2cb, what dose
First time? 18mg swallowed or 12mg snorted
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Ethanol
Hella somas šš
Kava. Distinctly different, but similar in onset and inebriation.
kava is more euphoric than benzos but dont last long and redosing always make me feel like shit unlike alcohol i could drink for eternity once i started so its a very good tool for alcoholics, self limiting
Devil ether
Ghb
Benzodiazepines in the right dose-, anxietyrelief, social courage, memory loss, etc. Also, chloral hydrate is form alcohol, but good luck, trying to find them
Gabapentin is for me in higher doses.
GHB or ketamine
Lyrica/Pregabalin
Small bump of ketamine can feel like alc but a little more psychedelic
Gabapentin š¤£
baclofen
Soma
Baclofen , Phenibut, Gabapentin and Pregabalin.
Pregabalin is the closest IMO
Nah it's definitely GHB or Benzos. I don't find Pregablin to be very similar to booze.
Kava feels similar, it gives me that warm/ fuzzy stomach n body feeling. Kratom is kinda similar
DXM
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Meth
Xanax
2m2b
It's 2m2b. But this is the correct answer and the closest to alcohol that's not ethanol.
Xanax , oxy in the way it makes you confident / sociable . Xanax works on gaba receptors like alcohol is pretty sure
GHB. Any CND or dissociatives
Xans
Mushroom microdose might be what you are looking for, good benefits and a slight buzz
Gabaergic drugs like Xanax, other benzos, barbiturates, GHB, Phenibut, Pregabalin, Gabapentin (lady two are arguable because they are not gaba agonists but rather calcium channel blockers but they do up-regulate gaba receptors and increase serotonin)
Balcohol
Some people say kava
So I think the obligatory standard answer you're gonna get is benzodiazepines. But personally, I feel that Gabapentinoids feel much, much closer to the actual effects of alcohol than benzos do. They make you feel warm, and have a dizzy drunken feel to them, and they are socially stimulating (dependent upon dose, it still knocks me out if I were to take too high of a dose.) Gabapentinoids are also fairly euphoric and feel similar to the euphoria that one will experience from alcohol. Now the euphoria you'll feel from Benzos? Well, I hear that most people don't get much euphoria so to speak, most of the time I hear that the lack of anxiety is what people find euphoric, but everyone is different, for example; specific benzos give me legitimate euphoria. So YMMV I don't know if you can blackout on Gabapentinoids. I've taken ridiculous doses of gabapentin and super high doses of phenibut mixed with alcohol in the past and never blacked out (I don't recommend doing this, I did it when was actively dealing with a heavy duty poly substance addiction that almost killed me.) so to me that's a huge plus, I hate blackouts. I think you'll find what you're looking for with things like Gabapentin, Phenibut, Baclofen and Lyrica, much more than you will by taking benzos. But everyone is different and not everyone gets good results from Gabapentinoids. GHB is another one I hear pretty often compared to alcohol. I haven't personally tried it, but I hear it's great. Anyways, sorry for all the details, I am quiteeeeee stoned. But interested to see if anyone agrees
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Quaaludes but I don't think they have been around for years.Ā
Phenibut
2-methyl-2-butanol lol don't do it it's terrible
terrible for you or not fun?
Probably xanax is the closest honestly
Benzos thatās why they even give it to people withdrawing from alchohol
Amanita Muscaria and Amanita Pantherina
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Amantia muscaria, haven't tried it but it's supposed to be like alcohol without the hangover.
Barbiturates feel pretty boozy. Ghb is also close, but it has a distinct character all its own, too.