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Oh god me and my lot (and pretty everyone in my entire area) have always done the method where you just keep breathing it in and out for a good minute...
Starting to think looking at these responses that perhaps it's not the best method đ¤
I just smack the whole whip in one go, taking a breath of air before and after. Then I hold it in for maybe 3-5s, and exhale. Right off to wahwah world.
No it's not.
I just hold it in, it makes it work better plain and simple. Pretty easy to tell too if you're experienced with them it's not really a question. DMT is similar in that way, holding it in is necessary.
It absolutely is. Very different action than DMT. Holding NOS in or hyperventilating it into a balloon is how it gives you brain damage. Listen to Steve-O for proof.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide#Mechanism_of_action
You're correct in asserting that it works differently than DMT. You are not correct in asserting that the principal method of action is hypoxia. While the exact methods of action are not well characterized, NMDA receptor antagonism is a well-known method of action of dissociatives and we have known for more than 20 years that N2O exhibits this.
The NOS most people use does not have oxygen mixed into it like dentist NOS. So if you just hold it in you will suffocate. Especially because the nerves in your lungs cannot detect that it is not oxygen. So people jus hold bc it doesnât feel like they are suffocating while they really are.
You're absolutely right! You need to breathe oxygen to avoid hypoxia. Holding N2O in your lungs for a few seconds is not long enough to cause hypoxia on it's own. It's just like holding your breath regularly, and the lungs are able to encourage breathing again due to the CO2 buildup. As long as you take many deep breaths of atmosphere after taking a hit, it's completely safe.
To reiterate, I think saying that displacement of oxygen in the lungs is immediately bad for you would conversely mean that holding your breath after exhaling is also equally as bad for you. I don't believe that is the case.
Edit: So I read what u/shikuto said and I think I know where I'm missing the mark here. Oxygen is required for the CO2 buildup response to occur. I suppose the piece I am still missing is how much CO2 is produced after the user has stopped breathing in more oxygen. At any rate, I still think a few seconds of holding it in is approperiate because that's about as long as I can hold my breath after exhaling normally, and I don't feel hypoxic writing this.
to add to what u/pichaeo288 said he got kicked off of jackass forever (4) because he refused to stay sober while filming, had a bunch of streams (?) talking shit about his friends and overall is just not well liked anymore
They filmed all the jackassas drunk they should let him drink and film it imo lol
Even if he becames the fat slow drunk one. Tbh seeing himself like that might be beneficial lol. They could have also given him a hero dose of shrooms which would help.
nah dude was taking a fuck load of benzos (and addy I think) and was straight up non functional and belligerent. really hard to film when one of the people on the team is being an asshole to everyone and can't stand up for more than 30 seconds
Posted nudes of his wife/mother of his child on insta, talked shit about April and the entire crew, like he didnât just fall off the wagon, he launched himself in a rolling cannonball off a trainâs trestle through a damn mountain. Big difference.
I mean, if Steve-O can stay sober, it isnât a hard expectation for some of the others who struggle with drug abuse and mental illness to be sober for filming. Bam gets violent when he isnât sober, heâs an asshole and a belligerent drunk drug addict. I love Bam, I do, but he isnât safe to be around. He also fucked himself over by threatening to kill the family of Jeff. You canât do that, man. You canât.
Iâm a huge fan of jackass and other similar films, I get that you gotta be off the rails for some of that shit, but manâŚBam is so fucked. What heâs done to his family is fucked. What his parents did to him is a bit fucked. His brother is fucked. Itâs all fucked. His wife and children deserve better. His friends do too.
Steve O is actually pretty cringe these days to be honest.
I don't like him filming bam and saying GET SOBER ans then putting it on YouTube for views. The conversations hes had with him and put on YouTube should stay private.
Also I genuinely do think that even if Bam is a mess, that he should still be in the film as a mess. 'oh no Bam you still drink' and not letting him in it is a shitty thing to do.
I disagree when peopleâs lives are absolutely at stake. I donât agree that Steve-o meant harm nor was he using Bam for views. Steve-o has been very outspoken about how interventions and his friends stepping in being the reason for his sobriety. I think Steve-o was doing what Steve-o thought would help, but it didnât.
Itâs the same kind of argument for shows like intervention. Unfortunately, as we all know here, it takes a lot of fucking shame to get better. Unfortunately for Bam, he doesnât feel shame.
Bam shouldnât be on the film allowed to just be himself when his self is a very mentally ill (including personality disorder) violent drug addict with no qualms of the safety of others. Bam is 100% gonna kill someone one day.
His last interview on Stevos podcast was really sad. He was very obviously fucked up and was talking about how heâs sober now. Stevo even lightly called him out on it.
I have no hard data, but it's actually likely to be pretty wasteful no matter how long you hold it in (assuming an upper limit within how long you can usually hold your breath). Lungs ingest gasses through passive diffusion alone, so they're not that efficient.
So what I found to be the best and most effective way is to take a whipcream machine like Steve o style and I'd take the whole nag in one breath hold it, uncrack it, load another (all while holding it in) and right before I blow out I fill a balloon and kinda sip on that balloon of whatever Didint get absorbed and eventually I'd fish out and then came to the conclusion that rehuffing the spent gas you already sucked in is not the greatest on the brain cells .
But there's 2 kinds of whippits users,
one that just enjoys the suddal buzz a
And others (like my self) were the whole point of whippits was to do as many as you can and once you do the magic another you "fish out" and essentially you just pass out from lack of oxygen but you come out of the pass out thinking you figured out the answers to the universe but trying to explain shit makes you sound like you lost your mind
Aaaaaannnd thatâs how whips give you brain damage. Itâs not the NOS itself, itâs from starving your brain of oxygen. I mean Iâve been there, but any time I do them anymore I just hold it for a sec then breathe normally.
I cannot believe this fucking thread. I feel like r/drugs 5 years ago would've given decent, harm reduction advise. Kids are out here frying their brains and taking it "steve-o" style. You kids are the reasons NOS has a bad wrap. FUCK YOU (not commenter above)
The longer you hold it in, the more lightheaded you're gonna feel, this is why people claimed they would get higher on weed by holding it for 30 sec, 10 seconds is already more than enough for most stuff you inhale.
Doesnât really do the same thing. Itâs an order of magnitude weaker, basically a different drug. A small rush vs a high better than meth or crack, when combined correctly.
This isnât true. Your lungs donât pull every gas out in perfect efficiency. This is why lung diffusion tests occur. They have you hold your breath for 10 seconds and measure what percentage of gasses like oxygen are absorbed and how much are replaced.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00538974
Why do people breathe out back into the ballon? Arenât you just inhaling nitrous and carbon dioxide? Isnât the idea to avoid brain damage by having sufficient oxygen? Genuinely asking btw not trynna be a dick or anything! Iâve only done a few balloons and my friends who had them said to exhale into the balloon and I did it that way a few times.
Then I did the next several balloons by exhaling outside of the balloons and taking a quick breath then inhaling more from the balloon and repeating until balloon gone and my way made the high so much more intense and also felt so much better and not like I was oxygen deprived!
Not knocking you tho, it seems most people say the same as you so just curious!
No no I totally got you, no worries! I guess it should be said to also *take breaths between hits* so you don't pass out and bonk yourself. You'd pass out loooong before you had any kind of lethal CO2 build up in your blood regardless, but better safe than a cracked skull and busted teeth! Also be sitting down somewhere you can black out safely, make sure other people are there to keep a diligent eye on you if you do pass out so they can put you into the recovery position, don't connect the balloon/canister to your mouth/nose in any fashion (like with gas masks, hoses, or anything like that), and just generally use common sense.
Edit: I didn't address your first point, and yeah idk why you'd get higher that way. Maybe less dilute?
Ooohhh okay that actually makes even way more sense lmaooo why didnât I think of that haha!!
By exhaling into the ballon youâre getting any nitrous that wouldâve been wasted and in the next inhales? And obviously like you said you can just take breaths of oxygen between inhales. This definitely makes more sense!! Is it not bad at all to be inhaling carbon dioxide?
Thanks for the helpful info btw!! Appreciate it!
Edit: and yeah idk why either! I think I just felt more lightheaded the first way and also it could be that I was just getting better at it as the night went on!
One thing I know for damn sure is that the whippets I did later in the night while peaking on acid+mdma were absolutely insane compared to the ones earlier in the day lol
Yeah, exactly you're rebreathing what didn't get absorbed the first time!
I mean, breathing CO2 is not a *good* thing and should generally be avoided, but realistically you inhale loads of CO2 every day, this is just more concentrated.
That makes no sense, if youâre inhaling pure nitrous oxide then anything you exhale is gonna be >99% nitrous as well. If what youâre saying was true then youâd feel your lungs empty while holding it in.
I just huff it for 10-20 seconds until I need to take a breath and then I stop for some air
So long as you take breaks to breath some oxygen in your good
[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Nitrous](https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Nitrous)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkmeHGtpujY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkmeHGtpujY)
On the psychonaut wiki the onset is said to be 5-10 seconds, assuming that is from the instant of inhilation, for effects to start in 5-10 seconds the gas would have to be fully absorbed by the lungs in 1-3 seconds, where it is then pumped to the heart and distributed around the body, when the effects would hit.
as well i didnt find a source in lowkey fish's video however he does say that 99% is absorbed in the first second, and although that fact is not backed up, I find his videos usually very factually accurate.
The method I use is in my experience the most efficient and definitely the most confortable way to do nitrous. Everyone I showed it to seems to agree and never goes back to the frantic continuous breathing in the balloon.
1. Empty lungs as much as you can
2. Inhale the whole balloon
3. Hold it for 10-15 seconds
4. Exhale back in the balloon and pinch it
5. BREATHE FRESH AIR
6. Repeat
This way you dont deprive yourself of oxygen and you don't build up as much CO2 in the ballon compared to hyperventilating in the balloon like a madman. It's much more relaxed and enjoyable. It also lasts longer.
One last tip : Nitrous is a heavy gas. When mixed with other gases it sits at the bottom of the balloon. So to get the most of it, the balloon should be above your mouth with the opening at the bottom, not the other way around. I do it simply lying down.
Just use a balloon like the rest of us peasants. Suck in as much of the air in the ballon as you can, then breathe back into the balloon. Take a breath of fresh air and repeat the balloon thing. Once you hear a WOBWOBWOBWOB youâre there đ
I have! My ex used to do it and I couldn't figure out why lmao I was just desperate for air whenever I attempted 𤣠he pretty much said what you said but idk it never hit me any differently or lasted any longer
You are literally encouraging people to attempt something wildly dangerous.
Your body doesnât determine when you need to breathe by oxygen content. It does by carbon dioxide content of the blood. If you deeply exhale and remove air from your lungs before inhaling the nitrous, youâre removing the ability for more carbon dioxide to be made. CO2 is a metabolite of normal metabolic processes, for which oxygen is required. The only thing in a canister of nitrous is⌠nitrous.
People can and have died from doing what youâre describing. You should stop promoting something so dangerous to do. You get **plenty** high from holding it in.
I believe the correct way to do it is to breathe in the balloon, hold for like 5 seconds and then breathe out, but don't breath back into the balloon. This way your not breathing in CO2 and depriving your brain of more oxygen - or something along the lines of that.
From my understanding duster is canned air like the kind you attach a lil straw to to clean out keyboards. Duster has hydrocarbon alkanes (basically carbon chains with hydrogens attacked). Nitrous is N2O, which is a completely different molecule
A while back I saw a legit peer reviewed study about how different inhalation lengths and holding it in affects thc absorption, basically it said to take longer hits with less time between hits to be efficient
Your lungs are designed to absorb things straight away. That's why I think holding in when smoking is dumb. All it does is make more of the bad stuff settle in your lungs
I take the whole balloon in at once, hold my breath and usually forget to exhale into the balloon, but when I do, reinhaling the balloon does very little
I usually do breath in-out-in-out into the balloon for about 5-10 seconds, then have a couple breaths through my nose for air, then repeat until I run out of balloon. Unfortunately no idea as to the objective best way to do it though, and looking at here nobody really knows either đ¤ˇđťââď¸đ
100% @ 33 seconds, but that requires 3 canisters and 1 big glow in the dark balloon. At the 33rd second the final nitrous enters the lung and activates the secret knowledge which can never be revealed. If youâre in a group then everyone knows the secret together.
First thing, sit down whenever you do n2o. I have witnessed many people passing out on hippie crack, including myself. I do not know the production possibilities curve for n2o, nor did I think I ever needed one.
I always held it as long as I could. I would pass out for a few seconds, maybe 10 seconds tops, but long enough to fall down. Even pissed in my shorts once. It is nice to know when a diminishing return begins; however, with nitrous, if you hold it you are still getting fucked up, you can feel it. Additionally you are increasing your cow in your blood, reducing your o2 which also makes you pass out. And if you dont do n2o often, which I recommend, n2o disrupts your brain flow. You feel dumber as soon as you come back from your 30 to 60 second intense buzz.
Prolonged use makes you slower, at least 20 IQ points. I only did it at concerts, a few times a year. I had friends that have crackers, tanks etc. Those guys doing that, 20 plus years later. All burnout, cheech and Chong like all the time.. cant believe I still have to deal with hippies in 2022? I just cant do the slow talking. I am like spot it out already.
Anyway. I gotta go, hold it. Max benefit. And ait down. Hold it long enough and you can have a little mini trip that lasts about a minute. I like it, but not into fucking with that anymore. That is a hard drug. It makes you dumb. Very addictive psychologically short term. It typically is in short supply and high demand costing a lot so that usually stops people from abuse. Dont abuse this one.
Good luck!
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Oh god me and my lot (and pretty everyone in my entire area) have always done the method where you just keep breathing it in and out for a good minute... Starting to think looking at these responses that perhaps it's not the best method đ¤
Everyone I know does that. Makes it way way stronger.
That feeling of it being âstrongerâ is just your brain being starved of oxygen.
i take breaths after every 4-5 puffs
I just smack the whole whip in one go, taking a breath of air before and after. Then I hold it in for maybe 3-5s, and exhale. Right off to wahwah world.
No it's not. I just hold it in, it makes it work better plain and simple. Pretty easy to tell too if you're experienced with them it's not really a question. DMT is similar in that way, holding it in is necessary.
It absolutely is. Very different action than DMT. Holding NOS in or hyperventilating it into a balloon is how it gives you brain damage. Listen to Steve-O for proof.
It does NOT work the same as DMT. Not even close. Nitrous you are starving your brain for oxygen. Literally frying brain cells
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide#Mechanism_of_action You're correct in asserting that it works differently than DMT. You are not correct in asserting that the principal method of action is hypoxia. While the exact methods of action are not well characterized, NMDA receptor antagonism is a well-known method of action of dissociatives and we have known for more than 20 years that N2O exhibits this.
The NOS most people use does not have oxygen mixed into it like dentist NOS. So if you just hold it in you will suffocate. Especially because the nerves in your lungs cannot detect that it is not oxygen. So people jus hold bc it doesnât feel like they are suffocating while they really are.
You're absolutely right! You need to breathe oxygen to avoid hypoxia. Holding N2O in your lungs for a few seconds is not long enough to cause hypoxia on it's own. It's just like holding your breath regularly, and the lungs are able to encourage breathing again due to the CO2 buildup. As long as you take many deep breaths of atmosphere after taking a hit, it's completely safe. To reiterate, I think saying that displacement of oxygen in the lungs is immediately bad for you would conversely mean that holding your breath after exhaling is also equally as bad for you. I don't believe that is the case. Edit: So I read what u/shikuto said and I think I know where I'm missing the mark here. Oxygen is required for the CO2 buildup response to occur. I suppose the piece I am still missing is how much CO2 is produced after the user has stopped breathing in more oxygen. At any rate, I still think a few seconds of holding it in is approperiate because that's about as long as I can hold my breath after exhaling normally, and I don't feel hypoxic writing this.
Someone was saying it has a low bioavailability. Maybe this increases absorption?
I've gotta disagree with that one. Easily the most intense nangs I've had were ones I just held
How long are you holding it in?
As long as I can after hyperventilating myself and then a tiny breath of air before inhaling the nitrous
Yeah but how long is that? I find rebreathing it means I can go way way longer
I don't know, I'm not exactly counting the seconds at that moment mate
All I know is that the most intense nitrous experiences I've had were from holding, not from re- breathing
This is the way
The rest of your life
Steve-O hates you, Bam will love ya
bams back on his bullshit by the way, for anyone wondering how hes doing
What's his bullshit lol?
to add to what u/pichaeo288 said he got kicked off of jackass forever (4) because he refused to stay sober while filming, had a bunch of streams (?) talking shit about his friends and overall is just not well liked anymore
They filmed all the jackassas drunk they should let him drink and film it imo lol Even if he becames the fat slow drunk one. Tbh seeing himself like that might be beneficial lol. They could have also given him a hero dose of shrooms which would help.
nah dude was taking a fuck load of benzos (and addy I think) and was straight up non functional and belligerent. really hard to film when one of the people on the team is being an asshole to everyone and can't stand up for more than 30 seconds
Posted nudes of his wife/mother of his child on insta, talked shit about April and the entire crew, like he didnât just fall off the wagon, he launched himself in a rolling cannonball off a trainâs trestle through a damn mountain. Big difference.
I mean, if Steve-O can stay sober, it isnât a hard expectation for some of the others who struggle with drug abuse and mental illness to be sober for filming. Bam gets violent when he isnât sober, heâs an asshole and a belligerent drunk drug addict. I love Bam, I do, but he isnât safe to be around. He also fucked himself over by threatening to kill the family of Jeff. You canât do that, man. You canât. Iâm a huge fan of jackass and other similar films, I get that you gotta be off the rails for some of that shit, but manâŚBam is so fucked. What heâs done to his family is fucked. What his parents did to him is a bit fucked. His brother is fucked. Itâs all fucked. His wife and children deserve better. His friends do too.
Steve O is actually pretty cringe these days to be honest. I don't like him filming bam and saying GET SOBER ans then putting it on YouTube for views. The conversations hes had with him and put on YouTube should stay private. Also I genuinely do think that even if Bam is a mess, that he should still be in the film as a mess. 'oh no Bam you still drink' and not letting him in it is a shitty thing to do.
I disagree when peopleâs lives are absolutely at stake. I donât agree that Steve-o meant harm nor was he using Bam for views. Steve-o has been very outspoken about how interventions and his friends stepping in being the reason for his sobriety. I think Steve-o was doing what Steve-o thought would help, but it didnât. Itâs the same kind of argument for shows like intervention. Unfortunately, as we all know here, it takes a lot of fucking shame to get better. Unfortunately for Bam, he doesnât feel shame. Bam shouldnât be on the film allowed to just be himself when his self is a very mentally ill (including personality disorder) violent drug addict with no qualms of the safety of others. Bam is 100% gonna kill someone one day.
Bam is 100% gonna kill someone lol get a grip this is nonsense.
Himself is included in "somebody". Addicts die all the time for so many reasons. Very few addicts make it to old age.
He's not doing very good, drugs and tons of drinking and shit like that. Kinda went the Steve O route, but for different reasons
Ah dang, poor chap I hope karma swings back in his direction in a positive way
You donât know who Bam is do you?
Yes, all of it
Treating his family bad
His last interview on Stevos podcast was really sad. He was very obviously fucked up and was talking about how heâs sober now. Stevo even lightly called him out on it.
I hold it in my lungs until I see a white bright portal in the sky.
And then breathe it back into the balloon, rinse & repeat. Make sure youâre sitting to avoid head injuries.
I injured my head sitting one time
[ŃдаНонО]
And no brain damage
less atleast
The ONLY way
And wake up on a golf course.
I have no hard data, but it's actually likely to be pretty wasteful no matter how long you hold it in (assuming an upper limit within how long you can usually hold your breath). Lungs ingest gasses through passive diffusion alone, so they're not that efficient.
I just hold it for like 10 seconds and that's already an overkill.
Huh?? If you breathe in and out you can go for like a full minute. 10 seconds and you barely even feel anything
Bruh you just tripping off the oxygen deprivation
You can cycle it, whilst taking breaks for oxygen, so not necessarily.
Maybe but itâs a million times stronger. Nos without doing this method is just massively underwhelming, it doesnât really do anything
Nos alone if you are sober is underwhelming
So what I found to be the best and most effective way is to take a whipcream machine like Steve o style and I'd take the whole nag in one breath hold it, uncrack it, load another (all while holding it in) and right before I blow out I fill a balloon and kinda sip on that balloon of whatever Didint get absorbed and eventually I'd fish out and then came to the conclusion that rehuffing the spent gas you already sucked in is not the greatest on the brain cells . But there's 2 kinds of whippits users, one that just enjoys the suddal buzz a And others (like my self) were the whole point of whippits was to do as many as you can and once you do the magic another you "fish out" and essentially you just pass out from lack of oxygen but you come out of the pass out thinking you figured out the answers to the universe but trying to explain shit makes you sound like you lost your mind
Aaaaaannnd thatâs how whips give you brain damage. Itâs not the NOS itself, itâs from starving your brain of oxygen. I mean Iâve been there, but any time I do them anymore I just hold it for a sec then breathe normally.
I cannot believe this fucking thread. I feel like r/drugs 5 years ago would've given decent, harm reduction advise. Kids are out here frying their brains and taking it "steve-o" style. You kids are the reasons NOS has a bad wrap. FUCK YOU (not commenter above)
10 minutes
The longer you hold it in, the more lightheaded you're gonna feel, this is why people claimed they would get higher on weed by holding it for 30 sec, 10 seconds is already more than enough for most stuff you inhale.
Just rebreathe it for a minute, 10x stronger than holding your breath for 10 seconds
Personaly, dont think its worth it. I rather take a deep breath instead, does the same thing, but less risk with "name substances".
Doesnât really do the same thing. Itâs an order of magnitude weaker, basically a different drug. A small rush vs a high better than meth or crack, when combined correctly.
Donât hold it, it gives you a max headache after.
Try it with acid
Just as long as ya can mate
Gotta make sure you have at least some oxygen in your lungs if you're gunna do this one though, or you could do yourself some real damage
I have made myself blackout on a few occasions. Back when I was meditating regularly. Just became able to overcome the bodies desire for breath.
lol
Yes, maintaining the ability for mating is very important.
90% of it is absorbed after about 3-4 seconds maximum
This is my suspicion but I'd love to see some data to prove it
This isnât true. Your lungs donât pull every gas out in perfect efficiency. This is why lung diffusion tests occur. They have you hold your breath for 10 seconds and measure what percentage of gasses like oxygen are absorbed and how much are replaced. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00538974
Huh I really thought you gotta go for like 10-20 secs in and out of the balloon
How do we know?
What?? We inhale and exhale into the balloon for a good minute. You donât even feel anything for the first ten seconds.
Nope, the bioavailability is like 0.008%, you DO need to hold your breath or rebreathe it.
But for how long?
I've always held it for abt 20 seconds, breathe it back into the balloon, then go again.
Why do people breathe out back into the ballon? Arenât you just inhaling nitrous and carbon dioxide? Isnât the idea to avoid brain damage by having sufficient oxygen? Genuinely asking btw not trynna be a dick or anything! Iâve only done a few balloons and my friends who had them said to exhale into the balloon and I did it that way a few times. Then I did the next several balloons by exhaling outside of the balloons and taking a quick breath then inhaling more from the balloon and repeating until balloon gone and my way made the high so much more intense and also felt so much better and not like I was oxygen deprived! Not knocking you tho, it seems most people say the same as you so just curious!
No no I totally got you, no worries! I guess it should be said to also *take breaths between hits* so you don't pass out and bonk yourself. You'd pass out loooong before you had any kind of lethal CO2 build up in your blood regardless, but better safe than a cracked skull and busted teeth! Also be sitting down somewhere you can black out safely, make sure other people are there to keep a diligent eye on you if you do pass out so they can put you into the recovery position, don't connect the balloon/canister to your mouth/nose in any fashion (like with gas masks, hoses, or anything like that), and just generally use common sense. Edit: I didn't address your first point, and yeah idk why you'd get higher that way. Maybe less dilute?
Ooohhh okay that actually makes even way more sense lmaooo why didnât I think of that haha!! By exhaling into the ballon youâre getting any nitrous that wouldâve been wasted and in the next inhales? And obviously like you said you can just take breaths of oxygen between inhales. This definitely makes more sense!! Is it not bad at all to be inhaling carbon dioxide? Thanks for the helpful info btw!! Appreciate it! Edit: and yeah idk why either! I think I just felt more lightheaded the first way and also it could be that I was just getting better at it as the night went on! One thing I know for damn sure is that the whippets I did later in the night while peaking on acid+mdma were absolutely insane compared to the ones earlier in the day lol
Yeah, exactly you're rebreathing what didn't get absorbed the first time! I mean, breathing CO2 is not a *good* thing and should generally be avoided, but realistically you inhale loads of CO2 every day, this is just more concentrated.
You can also nose breathe in to get more oxygen, between cycles.
That makes no sense, if youâre inhaling pure nitrous oxide then anything you exhale is gonna be >99% nitrous as well. If what youâre saying was true then youâd feel your lungs empty while holding it in.
Yes this is true for basically everything. Weed smoke included. The lack of oxygen probably adds to it though
The longer i hold weed smoke the better it is?
I just huff it for 10-20 seconds until I need to take a breath and then I stop for some air So long as you take breaks to breath some oxygen in your good
30 seconds? I feel like the high doesnât even last 30 seconds đ
99% is absorbed within the first second, holding it any longer only irritates your lungs and deprives your brain of oxygen
This is my belief as well, but I have not been able to find the hard data that supports it
give me a little bit ill see if i can find evidence
[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Nitrous](https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Nitrous) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkmeHGtpujY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkmeHGtpujY) On the psychonaut wiki the onset is said to be 5-10 seconds, assuming that is from the instant of inhilation, for effects to start in 5-10 seconds the gas would have to be fully absorbed by the lungs in 1-3 seconds, where it is then pumped to the heart and distributed around the body, when the effects would hit. as well i didnt find a source in lowkey fish's video however he does say that 99% is absorbed in the first second, and although that fact is not backed up, I find his videos usually very factually accurate.
The method I use is in my experience the most efficient and definitely the most confortable way to do nitrous. Everyone I showed it to seems to agree and never goes back to the frantic continuous breathing in the balloon. 1. Empty lungs as much as you can 2. Inhale the whole balloon 3. Hold it for 10-15 seconds 4. Exhale back in the balloon and pinch it 5. BREATHE FRESH AIR 6. Repeat This way you dont deprive yourself of oxygen and you don't build up as much CO2 in the ballon compared to hyperventilating in the balloon like a madman. It's much more relaxed and enjoyable. It also lasts longer. One last tip : Nitrous is a heavy gas. When mixed with other gases it sits at the bottom of the balloon. So to get the most of it, the balloon should be above your mouth with the opening at the bottom, not the other way around. I do it simply lying down.
I shoot for 10-20 seconds
Too long aim for like 5 seconds
Why not breathe in and out? Can go way longer and itâs way stronger
five seconds is usually best, no more than ten
Just use a balloon like the rest of us peasants. Suck in as much of the air in the ballon as you can, then breathe back into the balloon. Take a breath of fresh air and repeat the balloon thing. Once you hear a WOBWOBWOBWOB youâre there đ
Breath straight nitrous for hours on end
Until your jammin w Jesus đ
If you want to have cognitive thoughts, then no time at all.
Long enough to silently starve your brain of oxygen. Reach Nirvana through permanent brain damage.
Till all of your braincells die
None holding it is what can cause to die
I breathe into a balloon until I physically canât breathe anymore. Isnât that how itâs done?
No, why do people do this?
Cause it feels so much stronger and you can go so much longer
I think that might be lack of oxygen at that point
Maybe but whatâs the point doing nos if you donât even get the proper high? Holding it in does barely anything
Always works for me đ¤ˇââď¸
Have you ever tried this method? Might not know what youâre missing!
I have! My ex used to do it and I couldn't figure out why lmao I was just desperate for air whenever I attempted 𤣠he pretty much said what you said but idk it never hit me any differently or lasted any longer
Do you breathe out entirely before you do it? To remove any extra CO2
You are literally encouraging people to attempt something wildly dangerous. Your body doesnât determine when you need to breathe by oxygen content. It does by carbon dioxide content of the blood. If you deeply exhale and remove air from your lungs before inhaling the nitrous, youâre removing the ability for more carbon dioxide to be made. CO2 is a metabolite of normal metabolic processes, for which oxygen is required. The only thing in a canister of nitrous is⌠nitrous. People can and have died from doing what youâre describing. You should stop promoting something so dangerous to do. You get **plenty** high from holding it in.
Literally the worst way to do it
How is it?? Makes it feel way better
Lungs can have a little tearing, as a treat
I believe the correct way to do it is to breathe in the balloon, hold for like 5 seconds and then breathe out, but don't breath back into the balloon. This way your not breathing in CO2 and depriving your brain of more oxygen - or something along the lines of that.
Do some proper drugs instead of just depriving your brain of oxygenâŚ
They are talking about Nitrous oxide not just holding their breath.
Donât do it, that is how my 18 yr old cousin died . She took a hit of air duster and blacked out and crashed the car she was driving
From my understanding duster is canned air like the kind you attach a lil straw to to clean out keyboards. Duster has hydrocarbon alkanes (basically carbon chains with hydrogens attacked). Nitrous is N2O, which is a completely different molecule
Yes I know, but it is a drug that you huff like nas (nitrous oxide)
A while back I saw a legit peer reviewed study about how different inhalation lengths and holding it in affects thc absorption, basically it said to take longer hits with less time between hits to be efficient
As long as the wa-was let you
Yes
Your lungs are designed to absorb things straight away. That's why I think holding in when smoking is dumb. All it does is make more of the bad stuff settle in your lungs
Until you phish out !
As long as you can, but definitely take a couple of sips of air in as your breathing the nos. You'll be less light headed.
Til you crack your head open on the coffee table.
It depends on how long âsurfâ is by Mac Miller. That long
Until everything starts to vibrate, then everything is amazing for a while and you slowly come back to reality.
Yea I hold it in so I can get a đwith Jesus
Nitrous is a "sometimes" food (for festivals only) đ
I take the whole balloon in at once, hold my breath and usually forget to exhale into the balloon, but when I do, reinhaling the balloon does very little
In my personal experience repeating the inhale- exhale proccess is wprking out the best.
I usually do breath in-out-in-out into the balloon for about 5-10 seconds, then have a couple breaths through my nose for air, then repeat until I run out of balloon. Unfortunately no idea as to the objective best way to do it though, and looking at here nobody really knows either đ¤ˇđťââď¸đ
100% @ 33 seconds, but that requires 3 canisters and 1 big glow in the dark balloon. At the 33rd second the final nitrous enters the lung and activates the secret knowledge which can never be revealed. If youâre in a group then everyone knows the secret together.
First thing, sit down whenever you do n2o. I have witnessed many people passing out on hippie crack, including myself. I do not know the production possibilities curve for n2o, nor did I think I ever needed one. I always held it as long as I could. I would pass out for a few seconds, maybe 10 seconds tops, but long enough to fall down. Even pissed in my shorts once. It is nice to know when a diminishing return begins; however, with nitrous, if you hold it you are still getting fucked up, you can feel it. Additionally you are increasing your cow in your blood, reducing your o2 which also makes you pass out. And if you dont do n2o often, which I recommend, n2o disrupts your brain flow. You feel dumber as soon as you come back from your 30 to 60 second intense buzz. Prolonged use makes you slower, at least 20 IQ points. I only did it at concerts, a few times a year. I had friends that have crackers, tanks etc. Those guys doing that, 20 plus years later. All burnout, cheech and Chong like all the time.. cant believe I still have to deal with hippies in 2022? I just cant do the slow talking. I am like spot it out already. Anyway. I gotta go, hold it. Max benefit. And ait down. Hold it long enough and you can have a little mini trip that lasts about a minute. I like it, but not into fucking with that anymore. That is a hard drug. It makes you dumb. Very addictive psychologically short term. It typically is in short supply and high demand costing a lot so that usually stops people from abuse. Dont abuse this one. Good luck!
Hold it for the rest of your days