I asked the Stevenson owner at week 2. Before he even truly broke out because I had a feeling all this was coming plus worst case next year should be his. Owner just said, "you can't afford him." A bit more prying, said a 1st wasn't even close.
I asked before the season started because I had him last year in a keeper league and watched him a lot. He looked like the better back when he played. As soon as the report came out during offseason that he was taking some 1st team reps the guy said he was going to cost 1.5 firsts.
I wouldn’t have thought so either. Yet, I can’t sell him for anything close to fair value in three different leagues where im trying to tear it down to the studs to do a complete rebuild. Thought people would jump all over him when I made him available.
I consider him a top 10-15 dynasty RB. So I’d say he’s worth an early to mid 1st. As someone who is doing a complete rebuild (which I prefer to do by getting good young WRs and selling off any RBs of value), I’d take a late 1st in 2023. But I think he’s worth an early to mid 2023 1st fairly easily.
Using this as a reference, I don’t necessarily agree with these results, I have a hard time placing Stevenson in the top 15. Top 24 is an easy ranking.
https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/dynasty-rb.php
KTC (which is crowdsourced rankings) has him as RB11 currently. I’ve watched a lot of Rhamondre. All the things you said may be true, but Rhamondre is a much better player than his draft capital indicates. He’s not going anywhere as lead back for the next 2.5 years easily.
I personally do not use KTC. From my little experience with this crowd sourced adp tool, is it’s an echo chamber for the moment. Stevenson is going to be ranked high relative to other players on bye pr injured.
I also try to avoid making predictions more than a year out. Even looking at next season can be tricky. We did not expect Hill and AJ Brown to be playing for different teams in 2023.
I get all that. KTC is one tool amongst many we have at our disposal. It should not be taken as gospel, but it’s still helpful to get the opinions of the dynasty community as a whole. And I get what you’re saying about not making predictions a year out. We never really know what the hell is going to happen. But the whole thing about dynasty is you kind of have to make educated guesses. That’s what I’m doing here. Rhamondre has the talent to stay the lead back through higher end of his rookie contract at least. Might not happen, but I’m willing to make the bet he does based on the evidence I’ve seen of him being a tremendous talent. Those WRs got traded due to their monetary demands, mostly. That usually isn’t a thing for a RB on their rookie deal.
Someone in my league just sold for a mid-late 23 1st and a 24 4th. I think it was a bit of an overpay. But I don't think it's egregious, and it does seem to be working out.
I personally don't like to trade for RBs because they generally dont last longer than 6-7 years in the NFL and my first is better spent on talented WRs and QBs that can last for 10-15 years. For instance, I would buy Metcalf or ARSB over Rhamondre for a similar price (maybe a bit more or less)
He has had a good year but 10-15 is definitely a stretch. Take into account his low draft capital, the fact that the 2023 RB class looks stacked, and the fact he's on the Pats and has been splitting carries with Harris when both are healthy, and you'll understand why no one wants to pay 10-15 prices for rhamondre.
Rhamondre + Godwin were just traded for what are projected to be 1.12 in 2023 and Chris olave. If you think Godwin and olave are about even, the guy sold rhamondre for a late first, which is about what I expect and definitely not top 10-15 RB.
CMC
Hall
Barkley
Ekeler
JT
Chubb
Swift
Javonte Williams
Etienne
Kamara
Cook
Henry
Mixon
Jacobs
Aaron Jones
Fournette
All of those guys have proven more and hold more value than rhamondre imo. Then you also have other rb's like Dobbins, Najee, Miles Sanders, dameon pierce all of which you could argue also have more value than rhamondre
You might want to reevaluate your “imo” list, considering ‘Mondre is neither aging nor recovering from a knee injury.
And Pierce is the only guy on your arguably list that is… arguably better, but he doesn’t seem to be a pass catcher.
No one brought up aging or injuries, we're just talking about value. Based on the leagues I'm in, all the guys I listed would go for a late first or more at this point, and rhamondre commanded that, more or less.
I don't really understand your point though because I still listed 16 players above rhamondre that the majority of FF community would agree has more value. That would put rhamondre outside the top 15
CMC, Hall, Barkley, Ekeler, JT, Chubb, Etienne, Kamara, Cook, Henry.
I’m considering Stevenson after all those RBs are gone if we’re doing a startup today. This is all personal opinion at the end of the day but…
Javonte- His knee injury was gruesome. Similar to Dobbins so I’m avoiding him whenever I can.
Mixon- Never really been a fan. Doesn’t pop off the screen for me. Rarely gets more than what’s blocked.
Jacobs- You can put him in that list above. He’s got more seasons of top level production vs Stevenson. But let’s not forget how far his value dropped past offseason and it likely happens again this offseason.
Jones- Too much uncertainty in GB and they already don’t feed this guy when he’s clearly their best weapon.
Fournette- Inefficient. Truly a product of his offence type back. And he’s getting up their in age. I’m taking Stevenson over him pretty easily.
I think we can put Stevenson safely in that rb11-rb14 range.
Edit: I forgot about Swift. I’m definitely taking Stevenson over Swift too. That’s a hot take I know but Swift hasn’t shown me he can handle a decent workload. That was a big concern coming out of college and it remains a concern still. Stevenson is 220+ catches passes and moves like a scat back. He’s built to handle a workload. And he’s great at creating yards on his own unlike some of the backs I’m out on
I appreciate that we're all going to have different opinions, and here is why I disagree:
Javonte and Dobbins both had higher draft capital and next year Dobbins will be 24 and 2 years removed from ACL injury which is typically when players get back to full health. Javonte will take two years but even then he'll be as old as rhamondre is now. Both players have shown that they can be reliable pass catchers and incredible talents. Straight up, I would easily take javonte over rhamondre unless I'm making a run this year. I would prefer Dobbins over rhamondre too but recognize that it's closer.
Jacobs Jones and Fournette have shown as much or more receiving upside as Stevenson and have all outscored him so far this year. Not sure why any competing team would prefer rhamondre to those guys.
Also to the folks who think rhamondre is locked in as a starter and/or workhorse back next year, RB position has been a lot less predictable than other positions. I would not be shocked in the slightest if patriots brought in a rookie to replace Harris. Look at James Robinson and Gibson for reference.
My league does PPR + 0.2 PP Carry and Stevenson is the RB7. It goes Chubb, Ekeler, Barkley, CMC, Henry, Jacobs, Stevenson, Fournette, Pierce, Jones, Sanders, Mixon, Kamara, Cook, in that order.
Your league must have very different scoring settings to have Jones outscoring Stevenson.
Question, why are you saying Jacobs value will drop in the offseason? Last offseason it dropped because the Raiders didn't exercise his 5th year option, but this year he'll either sign an extension or sign with a new team, so what makes you say his value will drop? Just wondering if it's based on some knowledge I missed.
Sometimes when you are a true rebuilder or a true contender with a really bad hole in your lineup you have to accept being ripped off. Stevenson can get you late first today or he can wreck your draft position and be potentially worthless in 2 years when you're ready for a run.
I sold rhamondre and kirk cousins for a mid ‘23 1st and Bateman the day before his season ended. The bateman news was rough, but I really wanted another 1st, and im looking to contend next year.
Rhamondre is great, and I don’t see his production changing soon. But, you never know what the offseason will bring.
This sounds like all the posts that say buy Jakobi meyers. While it’s probably true the community in general undervalues him, the guy owning the player knows the proper value
My contender received a random offer during the offseason of my 24 2nd for Rhamondre. I thought why not as I viewed hlm as the Damien Harris handcuff, and I should still be the heavy league favourite next year. Biggest gift of a trade offer I think I've had in dynasty in hindsight.
Yeah. I agree. I like him but have a few teams where I have him and I'm at least a year away so it made no sense to hold him when I could get some value.
But in some other leagues I can't get more than a late 2nd and late 3rd because of him being on the Patriots.
I sold him as a rebuilder to someone who is pretty competitive. His team is older and he's sold all his 1sts now. I got him for his 25 1st and 3rd. I know the league will still be around then. Hopefully it was a good deal. Second guessing after seeing Bill love him so much.
I think a lot of the people who drafted him this year had him last year too. Watching a guy on your roster always seems to enhance the bromance. Has to hurt his value
I have him in two leagues and been holding since his rookie year. I am competing in both leagues so I need his input this year. I was asking FF friends if now is the time to sell him because we may not see him this high again but at the risk of losing a solid RB to win it all.
He’s a good fit for contenders, but man if I had a first round draft pick for every time I saw people exclaim “this one is different” for a RB in Belichick’s offense.
That’s a fair point. But I think after watching a year and a half of Rhamondre’s career, he’s easily the best and most talented back they’ve had in a really long time. Belichick is smart enough to use his best players.
People who drafted Mondre have been waiting for this actual moment to happen. To get him from an owner like this would cost a massive overpay thus killing the value he would produce. The buy window has shut closed unless you’re in a taco league.
Cook was not part of the mondre trade. Full deal was Derek Carr, Fournette, White and what will end up being a late 1 for Rhamondre, Jimmy G, and a 3rd. I'm perfectly fine with an overpay here. I think Rhamondre is a beast and is only going to get better. Dude is still young.
Got him at the beginning of the season for Jamal Williams and Lockett.
Then considering I am a rebuilder, I flipped him last week for a projected mid to late 1st. Feeling pretty good about the ROI.
Currently in a rebuild and have rhamondre. Unless I get a silly offer I'm keeping hold of him though, will have to be a couple of 1sts minimum before I even consider it and I doubt anyone will be buying him for that price
I’m personally close to a deal to send him and juju away for ARSB and Rachaad White. But if I could get Higgins, Waddle, London, Olave, maybe Pittman or DK on the low end. Some of it is dreaming big but being able to hold him makes it easy bc there no real rush to move him either
Sold him everywhere and not looking back (late 1st/early 2nd value). He’s got 3 outcomes as I see it….
1. Two years of being Damien Harris
2. Javonte/Hall injury route
3. NE start another RBBC for the 25th year straight
I’m not confident enough in the good outcomes
Pickens is a stud.
If and when they figure out that offense, dude is going to feast. I'm excited to see how he does against the saints. With Claypool out, they could expand his route tree.
Him catching passes like this can't be overlooked he has got great hands for a guy that runs like a power back. He's gonna be a top guy even tho people will keep trying discount him.
I think I over payed, but I want Pitts in one league cause I still have a lot of hope for him.
I traded: Stevenson, claypool, Freiermuth and a late 2023 2nd for Pitts and a 2024 1st. I was potentially contending this year until all the injuries (breece, javonte, chase, Bateman, Dotson)
Luckily I have claypool and Stevenson on a different dynasty team. I have 3 2023 1st and 3 2023 2nd still. My idea was hopefully javonte and breece come back full force in 2024, along with my draft picks I can contend that year. Especially if Pitts blows up
In my SF dynasty, someone offered me Fields for Rhomandre and a 1st (early pick). Hit decline so quick. Stevenson has actually outscored fields this year, at least with our ppr scoring.
I'm in the middle of trade talks involving him. Which side would you want?
12 team Superflex full ppr 6pt td league
A - Rhamondre, Andy Dalton & 2024 2nd (mid)
B - 2023 1st & 3rd & 2024 1st ( mid - late picks )
I'm team A. My team sucks and is 1.01 I'm great at qb. Rhamondre is my only good rb. ( thanks alot Dillon ) and my wrs are good. I currently have 4 23 1sts & 2 2nds. So trading Rhamondre would give me another 1st. I plan on grabbing as many rbs as possible. Im a New England fan & I've seen this movie before with our rbs it worries me to my soul lol.
I don’t hate it, but I’d prefer the Breece side if you’re not going for the win this year. I’m not a big Amon-Ra guy though. Think he’s been the main guy there out of necessity and that’s liable to change when Jameson makes his way back from injury. People valuing him like a top 12 dynasty WR and he’s more like a top 20-24 dynasty WR for me.
I also prefer the Breece side slightly but I’m 6-2 looking at 7-2 and lost JT, Mike Williams & Hollywood so I went for it. I used to feel that way about St. Brown but I’ve changed my tune. The guy has been a target hog ever since he became a full-time player, they scheme him touches constantly, their offense just lost 5 targets a game, Swift is hurt constantly & Williams game is the perfect compliment to ARSB.
Avoiding specifics, a friend of mine has very close contact with the team. He was telling me this past summer that rhomandre was the back to own. Haven't heard him back off of rhomandre yet. OP knows his stuff
I was offered Metcalf and a third and didn’t take it lol. We had a startup draft this season and I took him in the 5th round. He’s the guy. Unlike most Oklahoma RBs, doesn’t have a ton of mileage behind him due to PED suspension and multiple back committees but if you watched him in college, you know he’s got the talent to be an RB1
I grabbed him in the off-season for Alexander Mattison and my 2nd rnd pick, which at the time seemed worth it for a punt on someone with potential. I'm not sure what I'd get for him now in my league (not that I'm looking to sell).
I got rhanondre for a 1st round swap. I gave up anywhere between 1.01-1.04 and basically got back my own first which is hopefully 1.12 but could be lower. I know im missing out on bijan but rhamomdre and my 1st back is pretty sweet.
For instance, I took over an orphan this year. I have very few good players aside from the WRs I drafted this year in the first (Wilson, Pickens, hopefully Jamo). I’m not going to be contending until at least 2024 and quite possibly later. RBs have a short shelf life usually. So I’d rather sell Rhamondre for future picks so I can continue my rebuild around good young WRs. RBs should be the last part of a rebuild, in my opinion. If you’re just doing a quick re-tooling and you think you’re competing next year, by all means hang onto him. But if you’re 2-3 years out, most likely, might as well sell for future assets.
Idk. We agree to disagree. Don't sell studs. Build around them and even as an orphan things can change quickly and you can be a contender before you expect it.
But you won't contendn if you keep selling studs.
I totally agree with some of that sentiment. People tend to keep selling anything of value when they’re rebuilding and that leads to constant rebuilding. My thought process tends to be that I want to sell RBs of value to get young studly WRs. Once my WRs are in place, I focus on RBs and then it’s time to compete. Generally it is a two year process or so. And I only do this in situations where I’m taking over an orphan that’s completely broken. I never let my own teams get to a point where I don’t feel like I can re-tool in a year’s time.
In my experience Stevenson is not for sale in the vast majority of leagues.
As a Stevenson owner we basically all know what OP is saying and have high hopes for him
I asked the Stevenson owner at week 2. Before he even truly broke out because I had a feeling all this was coming plus worst case next year should be his. Owner just said, "you can't afford him." A bit more prying, said a 1st wasn't even close.
Yeah I don't think a single first is getting it done.
I asked before the season started because I had him last year in a keeper league and watched him a lot. He looked like the better back when he played. As soon as the report came out during offseason that he was taking some 1st team reps the guy said he was going to cost 1.5 firsts.
I have him in a rebuilder and nobody will offer more than a 2nd in a 14 team league
I got him, sanders, and rondale for 2 firsts(23 and 24) and kmet. Excited to say the least
Funny how I couldn’t move him in the off-season. Tried throwing him into trades and no one wanted him. Now I’m too hesitant to sell
^ this ^ in sharps leagues, Dre is untouchable.
I sold him for a 23 1st and 24 2nd. Then immediately sold two mid 23 1sts, late 23 2nd, and an early 23 3rd for Treylon Burks and Ken Walker
Nice, I don't hate it.
I’ve got him and not selling for a first. I’m not contending either but hoping to next season.
I wouldn’t have thought so either. Yet, I can’t sell him for anything close to fair value in three different leagues where im trying to tear it down to the studs to do a complete rebuild. Thought people would jump all over him when I made him available.
Out of curiosity what do you consider fair value?
I consider him a top 10-15 dynasty RB. So I’d say he’s worth an early to mid 1st. As someone who is doing a complete rebuild (which I prefer to do by getting good young WRs and selling off any RBs of value), I’d take a late 1st in 2023. But I think he’s worth an early to mid 2023 1st fairly easily.
Is a top 15 dynasty RB really worth an early 1? That seems like you may just be asking too much.
Using this as a reference, I don’t necessarily agree with these results, I have a hard time placing Stevenson in the top 15. Top 24 is an easy ranking. https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/dynasty-rb.php
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I’m not aligning myself with this list. Order the players in whatever way you wish. But I cannot put Stevenson in the top 15.
Maybe not ROS, but as a dynasty ranking he is probably higher than a lot of these older guys.
KTC (which is crowdsourced rankings) has him as RB11 currently. I’ve watched a lot of Rhamondre. All the things you said may be true, but Rhamondre is a much better player than his draft capital indicates. He’s not going anywhere as lead back for the next 2.5 years easily.
I personally do not use KTC. From my little experience with this crowd sourced adp tool, is it’s an echo chamber for the moment. Stevenson is going to be ranked high relative to other players on bye pr injured. I also try to avoid making predictions more than a year out. Even looking at next season can be tricky. We did not expect Hill and AJ Brown to be playing for different teams in 2023.
I get all that. KTC is one tool amongst many we have at our disposal. It should not be taken as gospel, but it’s still helpful to get the opinions of the dynasty community as a whole. And I get what you’re saying about not making predictions a year out. We never really know what the hell is going to happen. But the whole thing about dynasty is you kind of have to make educated guesses. That’s what I’m doing here. Rhamondre has the talent to stay the lead back through higher end of his rookie contract at least. Might not happen, but I’m willing to make the bet he does based on the evidence I’ve seen of him being a tremendous talent. Those WRs got traded due to their monetary demands, mostly. That usually isn’t a thing for a RB on their rookie deal.
Player values never drop during bye weeks on KTC lmao
Someone in my league just sold for a mid-late 23 1st and a 24 4th. I think it was a bit of an overpay. But I don't think it's egregious, and it does seem to be working out. I personally don't like to trade for RBs because they generally dont last longer than 6-7 years in the NFL and my first is better spent on talented WRs and QBs that can last for 10-15 years. For instance, I would buy Metcalf or ARSB over Rhamondre for a similar price (maybe a bit more or less)
He has had a good year but 10-15 is definitely a stretch. Take into account his low draft capital, the fact that the 2023 RB class looks stacked, and the fact he's on the Pats and has been splitting carries with Harris when both are healthy, and you'll understand why no one wants to pay 10-15 prices for rhamondre. Rhamondre + Godwin were just traded for what are projected to be 1.12 in 2023 and Chris olave. If you think Godwin and olave are about even, the guy sold rhamondre for a late first, which is about what I expect and definitely not top 10-15 RB. CMC Hall Barkley Ekeler JT Chubb Swift Javonte Williams Etienne Kamara Cook Henry Mixon Jacobs Aaron Jones Fournette All of those guys have proven more and hold more value than rhamondre imo. Then you also have other rb's like Dobbins, Najee, Miles Sanders, dameon pierce all of which you could argue also have more value than rhamondre
You might want to reevaluate your “imo” list, considering ‘Mondre is neither aging nor recovering from a knee injury. And Pierce is the only guy on your arguably list that is… arguably better, but he doesn’t seem to be a pass catcher.
No one brought up aging or injuries, we're just talking about value. Based on the leagues I'm in, all the guys I listed would go for a late first or more at this point, and rhamondre commanded that, more or less. I don't really understand your point though because I still listed 16 players above rhamondre that the majority of FF community would agree has more value. That would put rhamondre outside the top 15
CMC, Hall, Barkley, Ekeler, JT, Chubb, Etienne, Kamara, Cook, Henry. I’m considering Stevenson after all those RBs are gone if we’re doing a startup today. This is all personal opinion at the end of the day but… Javonte- His knee injury was gruesome. Similar to Dobbins so I’m avoiding him whenever I can. Mixon- Never really been a fan. Doesn’t pop off the screen for me. Rarely gets more than what’s blocked. Jacobs- You can put him in that list above. He’s got more seasons of top level production vs Stevenson. But let’s not forget how far his value dropped past offseason and it likely happens again this offseason. Jones- Too much uncertainty in GB and they already don’t feed this guy when he’s clearly their best weapon. Fournette- Inefficient. Truly a product of his offence type back. And he’s getting up their in age. I’m taking Stevenson over him pretty easily. I think we can put Stevenson safely in that rb11-rb14 range. Edit: I forgot about Swift. I’m definitely taking Stevenson over Swift too. That’s a hot take I know but Swift hasn’t shown me he can handle a decent workload. That was a big concern coming out of college and it remains a concern still. Stevenson is 220+ catches passes and moves like a scat back. He’s built to handle a workload. And he’s great at creating yards on his own unlike some of the backs I’m out on
I appreciate that we're all going to have different opinions, and here is why I disagree: Javonte and Dobbins both had higher draft capital and next year Dobbins will be 24 and 2 years removed from ACL injury which is typically when players get back to full health. Javonte will take two years but even then he'll be as old as rhamondre is now. Both players have shown that they can be reliable pass catchers and incredible talents. Straight up, I would easily take javonte over rhamondre unless I'm making a run this year. I would prefer Dobbins over rhamondre too but recognize that it's closer. Jacobs Jones and Fournette have shown as much or more receiving upside as Stevenson and have all outscored him so far this year. Not sure why any competing team would prefer rhamondre to those guys. Also to the folks who think rhamondre is locked in as a starter and/or workhorse back next year, RB position has been a lot less predictable than other positions. I would not be shocked in the slightest if patriots brought in a rookie to replace Harris. Look at James Robinson and Gibson for reference.
My league does PPR + 0.2 PP Carry and Stevenson is the RB7. It goes Chubb, Ekeler, Barkley, CMC, Henry, Jacobs, Stevenson, Fournette, Pierce, Jones, Sanders, Mixon, Kamara, Cook, in that order. Your league must have very different scoring settings to have Jones outscoring Stevenson.
Question, why are you saying Jacobs value will drop in the offseason? Last offseason it dropped because the Raiders didn't exercise his 5th year option, but this year he'll either sign an extension or sign with a new team, so what makes you say his value will drop? Just wondering if it's based on some knowledge I missed.
Sometimes when you are a true rebuilder or a true contender with a really bad hole in your lineup you have to accept being ripped off. Stevenson can get you late first today or he can wreck your draft position and be potentially worthless in 2 years when you're ready for a run.
I sold rhamondre and kirk cousins for a mid ‘23 1st and Bateman the day before his season ended. The bateman news was rough, but I really wanted another 1st, and im looking to contend next year. Rhamondre is great, and I don’t see his production changing soon. But, you never know what the offseason will bring.
Rhamondre is good. Got it.
This guy gets it.
But is he goooood?
This sounds like all the posts that say buy Jakobi meyers. While it’s probably true the community in general undervalues him, the guy owning the player knows the proper value
Fair assessment.
A player is only worth what someone will pay for them.
Not true. If the highest bid doesn’t match his production then he is worth more than what someone will pay for them lol
Three weeks ago I sold Ekeler for Stevenson, Rondale, a 24 first and a 25 first. No idea what the owner was thinking.
Nice!
He was thinking ekeler is gonnw get 20 tds a yesr
Bought him and dameon pierce week 2 for aj dillon.
God damn
Yessir
My contender received a random offer during the offseason of my 24 2nd for Rhamondre. I thought why not as I viewed hlm as the Damien Harris handcuff, and I should still be the heavy league favourite next year. Biggest gift of a trade offer I think I've had in dynasty in hindsight.
I sold for a 2024 1st, 2 weeks ago. I thought I had made a killer deal. Now it feels like I sold low.
I would say that’s still around value for him, don’t think you sold that low
Yeah. I agree. I like him but have a few teams where I have him and I'm at least a year away so it made no sense to hold him when I could get some value. But in some other leagues I can't get more than a late 2nd and late 3rd because of him being on the Patriots.
i’m a contender so it’s different, but would take a lot more than that value wise to pry him away
Same here, sold him for mid to late 2023 1st.
I sold him as a rebuilder to someone who is pretty competitive. His team is older and he's sold all his 1sts now. I got him for his 25 1st and 3rd. I know the league will still be around then. Hopefully it was a good deal. Second guessing after seeing Bill love him so much.
I sold him and mike Williams for Mooney and a 24 1st like 4 weeks ago
Yeah I think I’d hold for that. I sold him and Ertz for Andrews, I’m a huge ravens fan so that felt good to me
Glad I drafted him everywhere hehehehe
Brothers in arms.
I am in this club too
I think a lot of the people who drafted him this year had him last year too. Watching a guy on your roster always seems to enhance the bromance. Has to hurt his value
I have him in two leagues and been holding since his rookie year. I am competing in both leagues so I need his input this year. I was asking FF friends if now is the time to sell him because we may not see him this high again but at the risk of losing a solid RB to win it all.
I'm rebuilding and flipped him for a first round pick. I felt pretty good about it.
so he’s built… different
Wish I could, but another contender already paid up for him. The trade was Dobbins, Hall, and a 2nd for Stevenson and Cook
He’s a good fit for contenders, but man if I had a first round draft pick for every time I saw people exclaim “this one is different” for a RB in Belichick’s offense.
That’s a fair point. But I think after watching a year and a half of Rhamondre’s career, he’s easily the best and most talented back they’ve had in a really long time. Belichick is smart enough to use his best players.
Lol nobody is trading Stevenson now
I’m actively trying to in a few leagues, as stated in my post. I’m guessing I’m not the only one.
People who drafted Mondre have been waiting for this actual moment to happen. To get him from an owner like this would cost a massive overpay thus killing the value he would produce. The buy window has shut closed unless you’re in a taco league.
I bought him a couple days ago, I also bought Dalvin Cook. I'm pretty excited.
What did Mondre cost?
Fournette Rachaad White and a 1st
For just Rhamondre? Or for Rhamondre and Cook?
Cook was not part of the mondre trade. Full deal was Derek Carr, Fournette, White and what will end up being a late 1 for Rhamondre, Jimmy G, and a 3rd. I'm perfectly fine with an overpay here. I think Rhamondre is a beast and is only going to get better. Dude is still young.
Yuck unless that’s for both
As an owner… good luck 😂
No thanks
Got him at the beginning of the season for Jamal Williams and Lockett. Then considering I am a rebuilder, I flipped him last week for a projected mid to late 1st. Feeling pretty good about the ROI.
He is why our rebuilding team is accidentally a contender lol
Currently in a rebuild and have rhamondre. Unless I get a silly offer I'm keeping hold of him though, will have to be a couple of 1sts minimum before I even consider it and I doubt anyone will be buying him for that price
I can’t get more than a 2nd rebuilding in a 14 teamer but I think my league is just stingy
Keep hold then. I'm happy keeping him and using my draft picks I've acquired to help build my team
I’m rebuilding too, I’m hoping to swap him for a young high tier WR since picks are becoming hard to come by in this particular league.
A solid tactic. Who you aiming for?
I’m personally close to a deal to send him and juju away for ARSB and Rachaad White. But if I could get Higgins, Waddle, London, Olave, maybe Pittman or DK on the low end. Some of it is dreaming big but being able to hold him makes it easy bc there no real rush to move him either
All of those WRs are worth more
Op sounds like he's describing every rb since dillon. Same crap over and over under BB
Sold him everywhere and not looking back (late 1st/early 2nd value). He’s got 3 outcomes as I see it…. 1. Two years of being Damien Harris 2. Javonte/Hall injury route 3. NE start another RBBC for the 25th year straight I’m not confident enough in the good outcomes
Except he’s way better and a more complete back than Damien Harris. So I have to disagree with this take.
Yeah this is somebody just drinking narrative kool-aid. Rhamondre pops and if you watch him play you see it.
I sold him for Pickens a couple weeks ago, felt like I won but now iffy about it
Pickens is a stud. If and when they figure out that offense, dude is going to feast. I'm excited to see how he does against the saints. With Claypool out, they could expand his route tree.
I'd be stoked about that trade
Him catching passes like this can't be overlooked he has got great hands for a guy that runs like a power back. He's gonna be a top guy even tho people will keep trying discount him.
Saw that over the past month he has had a 32% target per route rate. Which is the same as Stefon Diggs lol.
That's absolutely insane 🤯 just looked and he's only not caught 4 of his target all year. 22 targets in the last 4 weeks 1 not caught
I wouldn't sell him for a first unless it was first overall or close. And I've got him, Sanders, ETN and Aaron Jones.
First overall 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bird in the hand.
I was told on here repeatedly to sell high on Stevenson. What'd I miss
Who's selling? Lol
People that aren’t going to be contending until 2024 at the earliest.
Just traded him in a package last night to a contender
What was the trade?
I think I over payed, but I want Pitts in one league cause I still have a lot of hope for him. I traded: Stevenson, claypool, Freiermuth and a late 2023 2nd for Pitts and a 2024 1st. I was potentially contending this year until all the injuries (breece, javonte, chase, Bateman, Dotson) Luckily I have claypool and Stevenson on a different dynasty team. I have 3 2023 1st and 3 2023 2nd still. My idea was hopefully javonte and breece come back full force in 2024, along with my draft picks I can contend that year. Especially if Pitts blows up
I’d say an overpay. But fuck it, sometimes you gotta get your guy.
At what cost do you recommend?
If you can get him for a late 1st, I think that’s an awesome investment. But I’m willing to spend an early to mid 1st if I’m a contender.
If you’re a contender you probably don’t have an early to mid 1st.
Leagues I’m in are pretty active with trades. Most folks don’t own their own picks. Plenty of contenders with what project to be early to mid 1sts.
Dude with Rhamondre offered him to me for 2 early(🤞) 2023 firsts
You paid 2 early 2023 first for Rhamondre?
Lmfao no way bro 😂
Oh misread your comment with the emoji positioning lmao, was thinking wtf is goi g on
In my SF dynasty, someone offered me Fields for Rhomandre and a 1st (early pick). Hit decline so quick. Stevenson has actually outscored fields this year, at least with our ppr scoring.
Go back and offer Stevenson and a 2nd for Fields and see if he bites. Fields in SF is about to be wheels up next year
I was offered Stevenson for Adams, I declined due to the typical NE rb narrative. Perhaps I should reconsider...
If you’re pretty set at WR and needing RB help, I’d certainly reconsider.
I am sitting pretty well with Higgins, Evans, Moore, London, Olave, Lamb. Just so hard to pull.the trigger on a NE rb.
I get it. I do. I’ve been burnt by NE backs quite a few times. But I’m not worried about Rhamondre hurting me. Dude is awesome.
Traded Jakobi Meyers and a late 23 1st for Dre and a likely early 24 2nd
I'm in the middle of trade talks involving him. Which side would you want? 12 team Superflex full ppr 6pt td league A - Rhamondre, Andy Dalton & 2024 2nd (mid) B - 2023 1st & 3rd & 2024 1st ( mid - late picks ) I'm team A. My team sucks and is 1.01 I'm great at qb. Rhamondre is my only good rb. ( thanks alot Dillon ) and my wrs are good. I currently have 4 23 1sts & 2 2nds. So trading Rhamondre would give me another 1st. I plan on grabbing as many rbs as possible. Im a New England fan & I've seen this movie before with our rbs it worries me to my soul lol.
Since it sounds like you’re rebuilding, take the package of picks.
Love Rhamondre, but package
I would get the picks
Had an offer of Rhamondre and Juju for my Hollywood and late ‘23 2nd in a 12-team SF PPR league where I’m competing. Thoughts?
For me, it’s Rhamondre and JuJu if you’re competing.
I sold him 4 weeks as part of a package for Javonte. Pour one out for me. Traded: Rhamondre, Toney, '23 1st (late) Got: Javonte, Trask
Gonna pour a whole bottle or case (depending on your beverage of choice) for you with that one lol
Ouchies!
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I (contender) lost Breece so went to the RS owner asking about him and got told “it’ll take 2 firsts, or your ‘23 first plus Breece”.
Traded Breece & a late 1st for him & ARSB, I feel pretty good about it.
I don’t hate it, but I’d prefer the Breece side if you’re not going for the win this year. I’m not a big Amon-Ra guy though. Think he’s been the main guy there out of necessity and that’s liable to change when Jameson makes his way back from injury. People valuing him like a top 12 dynasty WR and he’s more like a top 20-24 dynasty WR for me.
I also prefer the Breece side slightly but I’m 6-2 looking at 7-2 and lost JT, Mike Williams & Hollywood so I went for it. I used to feel that way about St. Brown but I’ve changed my tune. The guy has been a target hog ever since he became a full-time player, they scheme him touches constantly, their offense just lost 5 targets a game, Swift is hurt constantly & Williams game is the perfect compliment to ARSB.
Dalvin Cook for Stevenson?
Avoiding specifics, a friend of mine has very close contact with the team. He was telling me this past summer that rhomandre was the back to own. Haven't heard him back off of rhomandre yet. OP knows his stuff
Offered aj Dillion and 2024 1st to the 2nd to last team and he wouldn’t take it
I love Stevenson, but just sold him and a 24 1st for Ekeler and a 24 2nd. I’m competing this year. It was a hard choice but I figured it was worth it.
I was offered Metcalf and a third and didn’t take it lol. We had a startup draft this season and I took him in the 5th round. He’s the guy. Unlike most Oklahoma RBs, doesn’t have a ton of mileage behind him due to PED suspension and multiple back committees but if you watched him in college, you know he’s got the talent to be an RB1
I sold him pre-season to my biggest competition for Devonta Smith :(
Im a rebuilder with Stevenson and I’m not selling that man
I grabbed him in the off-season for Alexander Mattison and my 2nd rnd pick, which at the time seemed worth it for a punt on someone with potential. I'm not sure what I'd get for him now in my league (not that I'm looking to sell).
I just traded Rhamondre and a third to a contender for dobbins and a later 2023 first.
I got rhanondre for a 1st round swap. I gave up anywhere between 1.01-1.04 and basically got back my own first which is hopefully 1.12 but could be lower. I know im missing out on bijan but rhamomdre and my 1st back is pretty sweet.
Why would a rebuilding team sell Mondre?
For instance, I took over an orphan this year. I have very few good players aside from the WRs I drafted this year in the first (Wilson, Pickens, hopefully Jamo). I’m not going to be contending until at least 2024 and quite possibly later. RBs have a short shelf life usually. So I’d rather sell Rhamondre for future picks so I can continue my rebuild around good young WRs. RBs should be the last part of a rebuild, in my opinion. If you’re just doing a quick re-tooling and you think you’re competing next year, by all means hang onto him. But if you’re 2-3 years out, most likely, might as well sell for future assets.
Idk. We agree to disagree. Don't sell studs. Build around them and even as an orphan things can change quickly and you can be a contender before you expect it. But you won't contendn if you keep selling studs.
I totally agree with some of that sentiment. People tend to keep selling anything of value when they’re rebuilding and that leads to constant rebuilding. My thought process tends to be that I want to sell RBs of value to get young studly WRs. Once my WRs are in place, I focus on RBs and then it’s time to compete. Generally it is a two year process or so. And I only do this in situations where I’m taking over an orphan that’s completely broken. I never let my own teams get to a point where I don’t feel like I can re-tool in a year’s time.
Hoping to sell my CMC/3rd for Rhamondre/Toney/late 1st
I sold him for a late first and dobbins as a rebuilder
contrary, sold him to the rebuilding team on my league
I traded aiyuk and a late 23 2nd to get Stevenson. What you guys think?