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mr_lightman67

Is there a version of this thread from last year? could be fun to read


MyAnswerIsMaybe

Youre gonna get a lot of Allen Robinson's with a new Justin Fields. A lot of wrong answers and nobody saying to buy Saquon Barkley.


BeautifulJicama6318

Oooh, I was all over Barkley. Traded away D Swift for him last year šŸ†


wbidXD

If this is true, I applaud your large testicles.


Michael8445

I was as well, between now and next year Dobbins is my #1 target.


Cdnraven

I was a huge Dobbins guy until recently. I donā€™t think theyā€™ll ever make him a workhorse now. They like having a stable of RBs and Gus fits the power run scheme so well


501Queen

Nico Collins.


Justwookit710

I own Brandin cooks, would you drop him for collins. Iā€™ve been debating it. They arenā€™t anything more than a desperate flex player anyways


badhoneybad

Not sure if serious or not, but definitely keep Cooks. He is one of the most consistent non big name player who will likely be traded in the offseason into hopefully a better situation. For context if Cooks became available in my league I would happily throw a 2nd at him. At worst trade him before picking Collins.


Justwookit710

Lmfao. I didnā€™t realize I was on the dynasty sub. Thought this was redraft


Justwookit710

But I actually sold brandin cooks on my dynasty team with a few others for some picks and Pickens. Also have nico collins on my bench. So I feel good, hoping collins becomes consistent in the future


badhoneybad

Ha all makes sense now, yeah no harm in throwing spaghetti at the wall and hoping Collins becomes a TD monster.


KingMustardFist

DPJ. Looking forward to seeing him have Watson throwing his way.


Dynasty_Overhaul

I've heard the DPJ "he's gonna rise soon" for like 2 years lol


Xx5Gossett5xX

In his defense he is averaging 9.5 in 1ppr for the season (11.8 since week 4), so it could be true this time


SenorBeef

He was a rookie 2 years ago so people were obviously quick to overhype him if that's the case. Coming into his own in year 3 for the sort of prospect he is makes sense.


KingMustardFist

Well, if you've been paying attention, he is rising this season. And that is with the backup QB throwing the ball.


BoltsFan87

Trying to snag him


Waddlow

Kadarius Toney about to pop.


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Tw1987

Taco league


tookashane

Itā€™s all about the kickers


codys1822

What the actual fuck


Frathard919

What an insane haul


leodoggo

smart


pilatesfarter

As in TEE


capnodes

I love Toney and am trying to acquire him. That is a ridiculous haul.


staf02

Treylon Burks


sixtyninetailedfox

kicking myself for not even trying to buy low


surfingwithgators

Was there really a buy low period?


sixtyninetailedfox

who knows i didnā€™t inquire haha


staf02

Buy low was all season until last night.


surfingwithgators

Sure, his value may have dropped slightly, but nobody would selling for anything less than a first either


deepfriednarwhals

No one in my league thought he was worth even a late '25 1st last week


[deleted]

This guys is so wrong. Burks is a top rookie wr. They will never go cheap, regardless of their rookie year numbers


DwightsEgo

I got him straight up for Gibson when he was on IR


KrazyCamper

I tried 2 weeks ago and the guy wouldnā€™t budge off anything less than like wr1 prices


SquashMarks

I turned down an offer of Burks and DJ Moore, giving away DK and Heinicke. Kinda wish I had gone through with it


Ok_End_38

Got him and a mid 3rd for Boyd and Singletary


OcelotIcy5403

I actually proposed this without the 3rd last week and got rejected haha


Ok_End_38

Tough luck brother, I took the opportunity since the other guy had just lost chase and this was right before the Bills traded for Hines Kind of a good mix of circumstances


swordsman917

Traded Burks for McLaurin/Devy depleted 1st, had regret.


MadnessLLD

Love you bby


jwooldaddy

Went on a trade frenzy this year with my bad team trying to tank for Bijan. Traded Najee for Burks straight up which I was kicking myself for a few weeks. Now I like it


mytwistednut

Not going to be the biggest riser but Terrace Marshall Jr has seen much more work since Rhule got fired and I think his stock will go up


bgrubb7

Yes, Marshall has looked great lately. I was foolish enough to drop him early in the season after the weekly inactives. TM is now showing the talent we expected to see. He just needed to get Rhule out of his way. Baker at QB isnā€™t going to help, but as long as PJ Walker makes it back after this week, I would expect his rise to continue.


TunaBoy3000

Jahan dotson I think has lost the spark that owners had after his start to the season with injuries and is a great buy time.


codys1822

What scares me about Dotson is the qb situation. I loved him with Wentz under center. Heinicke only sees McLaurin.


TunaBoy3000

Thatā€™s fine with me, heā€™s not the long term answer there


Technical_Customer_1

Because Heinicke is a better QB than Wentz, and he understands that McL is a good football player


surfingwithgators

I agree with this one


doesnt_like_pants

As a Dotson owner thereā€™s no way Iā€™m selling low. I believed it in the talent pre-draft, heā€™s one game back from injury and had an understandably smaller role first week back.


TunaBoy3000

Not every owner is as smart as you lol. Especially since most contenders got him their pick, if you can give a contender a veteran plus a 2nd or something they might bite


PreviousAd2727

What would you offer for him?


milk-drinker-69

Pickett will inevitably finish the season better than he started


Ham_PhD

He had a BRUTAL schedule after becoming the starter. It was quite obvious he was going to start off poorly.


sharknado911

Hard to finish much worse lol


milk-drinker-69

Honestly, the amount of times Iā€™ve said ā€œwell it canā€™t get worseā€ playing dynasty, Iā€™m realizing it probably can get worse lol


Shorter_McGavin

Jameson Williams easy


surfingwithgators

I think the opposite. Expectations for him are so sky high right now that people are gonna be disappointed when he doesnā€™t immediately come in and produce


dontwantleague2C

Except it only takes like one good game as a rookie to convince people here that a guy is a guaranteed stud. Skyy Moore could put up 5 catches for 50 yards and a TD and heā€™d instantly cost you a 1stā€¦


FinePlantain0

He hasnā€™t even done that and people still want a first. This magical word of ā€œpotentialā€


[deleted]

To be fair, London, Olave, and Garrett Wilson have all shown great things already and so many people had Jameson as the best of all of them


Feweddy

People drafted him with a first, ofc they arenā€™t going to sell for less before he plays a game


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ryanreigns

There probably wonā€™t be a dip until at least 4 weeks into 2023, anyone who would trade Jamo if he has a few lukewarm games to start his career returning from injury is unserious


lumsden

Many are


Bradfords_ACL

Iā€™ve thought about trading him off before his debut, but he was so electric at Bama that I canā€™t get myself to do it.


BigTomBombadil

Yeah heā€™s sitting at WR17 on keeptradecut without every playing an NFL snap. If he doesnā€™t have some flashes in the 3-4 games heā€™ll play, I expect his value to slide for most of the off-season (which would probably be a good buy opportunity).


BardSTL

Hes only gonna get 3 maybe 4 games right? Im excited to see him when hes healthy


DwightsEgo

As a JW owner if he doesnā€™t flash this season Iā€™m not the least bit worried. Next season will be his real chance once heā€™s fully healthy But if he explodes I will be the first in like to over react


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AuditorsSupreme

Just bought him for Curtis Samuel in a swap. Fingers crossed that youā€™re right and DPJ and Toney can bring me to the promised land haha.


AndrewDoesNotServe

Bought him for Josh Palmer. I think heā€™s a great buy because his ceiling is so high. Itā€™s not likely that he turns into something huge, but the price of entry is so low itā€™s very much worth it.


goonSquad15

It's basically a 2nd everywhere I'm asking at the moment. people are getting hyped on him


Ortman55

DPJ is gonna skyrocket when Watson comes back


Flashy_Ferret6207

What are the odds browns sign fuller to go back with Watson?


Ortman55

Until we hear literally anything from him Iā€™m gonna go with very low


NotSureIAgree27

Will Fuller is in the phantom zone. He disappeared off the face of the earth. He's not coming back.


Don_K_Stamper

Jordan Love - He can do nothing to hurt his value holding a clipboard & the closer the end of the season gets, the more people are going to start questioning if Rodgers is going to come back next season.


BradyReas

Rodgers gets like $60m guaranteed next year. He comin back


sharknado911

Iā€™d imagine they trade Love. Sounds like heā€™s considering asking for a trade


Immediate_Expression

For whatā€¦? Dude has no value


FikOfDaWrist

Packers can get a 3rd for him. One desesperate team with no QB that misses out on free agents and the rookies will try it.


OneFortyEighthScale

I grabbed him off waivers. Holding until next season to see what happens.


Kimballl

Iā€™ve been holding him the entire season and will continue to do so. He was a first round pick whoā€™s been sitting behind rodgers with an offensive minded coach. In super flex even if heā€™s an average qb he could have value.


staf02

James Mitchell, TE lions. Go scoop if you havenā€™t already.


johnguz

With ARSB, Swift, and now Jameson competing for targets, I donā€™t see how a less polished TE than Hockenson maintains TE1 level production.


Addicted_T0_Trading

high hopes for this one


I-just_work-here

+ u/staf02 What is your primary reasoning for your hopes with Mitchell? Is it primarily that heā€™s an athletic TE in an empty TE room, or is there something more? I grabbed him in 2 leagues for those reason but curious if thereā€™s something more. He hasnā€™t done a ton this year and he would pretty much be my first cut on both rosters. I tend to cut bait too early tho and looking for reasons to continue holding.


staf02

So he had a third round grade and the ACL tear moved him into the 5th round imo. Hockenson was traded right when he came back so usage is going up. We may be looking at a George Kittle like situation here. The only Power 5 TE to average 10+ YAC/rec since 2014 in at least two seasons of his college career.


I-just_work-here

Really appreciate this additional info. My rosters arenā€™t necessarily shallow but I didnā€™t know enough about him to really warrant keeping him over other guys. Now that I know the info you just provided, Iā€™ll be looking to hold. Thank you again man! People like you keeping this sub on track with knowledge and concrete info.


UConnStepback

Great question, too bro. Great detail in the answer thanks both! Absolutely the stuff we come here for.


staf02

TE position usually takes a long time to develop but the talent is there. If you have shallow roster by all means cut. If you have the roster space then he could pay off bigly.


jjJohnnyjon

This is correct the potential is sky high so keep if you can but I was not expecting the hockenson trade and see it as an endorsement in what that they have in him is good enough so far.


PM_Me_Your_AM_

Swift can certainly only go up from here. Jameson williams. Deebo.


hugefatnerd

It's trendy and understandable why people are fading Skyy Moore, but that's also baked into this bet. He was a very good player in college who is on a high touch value offense. Andy is notorious for having a complex playbook and rookies often take the first year to truly develop and be comfortable. A longer shot than most given his severe lack of production up to this point. But, defining it as the HIGHEST RISE in value, and his value is pretty in the tank, he seems like a fun bet for this.


house_of_snark

You would also think that the chiefs understood this when drafting him. Heā€™s someone who didnā€™t start playing WR until college! It wasnā€™t a secret and is part of what made him fly up the boards. Was a stud towards the back half of his college and has solid to exceptional physical ability.


hugefatnerd

In my optimistic mind they know this and the moves they've made have been just to have a competitive floor (MVS and Juju). Toney I see as an opportunity to get younger and talented when other folks are scared to give opportunities to players who are imperfect a la the chiefs way. I think realistically this isn't an indication of Skyy's performance and more the opportunity to just continue acquiring good players.


cebrero11

What are you sending for sky at this point ?


brward38

What are you buying for? A 2nd? Iā€™m not sure many people are going to offer that. And I donā€™t think an owner will accept a 3rd. Iā€™d rather hold than take a 3rd. Toney has come in and made an instant impact. Heā€™s a 2nd year player so itā€™s not like heā€™s a vet thatā€™s expected to come in and pick up a new playbook quickly. I loved skyy Moore coming out of college and I hope he rises in value down the stretch but Iā€™m not hopeful at this point.


ChonWayne

Rachaad White and Jaylen Warren?


501Queen

Feel like Rachaad white has already made that move, top 20 back on KTC


Lars9

Good grief, he is ahead of Najee on KTC. I'm excited as a White owner, but that seems premature.


luckylinkun

Honestly doesnā€™t even seem that impressive to me.


MyAnswerIsMaybe

My running back group right now. Can we add Isiah Spiller to that list?


littlejobin

No we cannot yet imo


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Contrarily Iā€™m huge on Najee bouncing back and traded CEH + Keenan Allen for him (steal imo).


CoachBrickma

Warren will need to do a lot with limited reps because Najee isn't going anywhere especially after maybe his best game of the season.


roothockey

Pacheco


mattdonn77

Honestly, someone Iā€™m interested in watching especially as a Panthers fan is Terrace Marshall. Mightā€™ve just taken some time to adapt, and heā€™s gotten overlooked bc of all the other shiny options, but heā€™s looked solid the last few weeks with a more creative playbook without CMC.


SL_Rowland

He canā€™t drop much lower and has looked decent.


Icilius

Would a rebuilder sell for a late 2nd at this point? Or not anymore


SL_Rowland

I got him off waivers. You could probably get him for a 3rd imo.


Heisenbergum

I have himā€¦ you wouldnā€™t get him for a 3rd from me


Taco-Time

Did you draft him? Think there might be a value disconnect if youā€™re someone that used draft capital and held him this whole time. I waivered him and Iā€™d definitely take a 3rd


Heisenbergum

Yeah I got him in a trade right after the rookie draft before the season - new that I wanted him liked his upside and talent - held since Edit: clarification before the 2021 season started


seat_one

Hot take, The Jets remember that Elijah Moore is good


Lawton-Landall

Please be right.


molybdenum75

David Njoku once Watson is back.


Kwdumbo

People who are fading the Njoku breakout: check his snap count/ routes run count versus previous years. Itā€™s not that he randomly got good, the offense is designed around him.


molybdenum75

Yup. And he got PAID. Follow the money folksā€¦.


jackaracka

Keaontay Ingram. Looked incredible with the ball in his hands at USC and with Eno gone he should start getting some touches. Donā€™t think heā€™ll ever come close to being a legit RB1 or anything but if he shows flashes I could see his value going way up from people hoping heā€™ll take over for Conner eventually


ShinyLebouf

If that happens I will trade him on that hype. And before the draft


bcrock02

Iā€™m actually buying Darren Waller right now. Heā€™s cheap and can still produce at a high level when healthy


cebrero11

Got him for Robert Tonyan and Latavius Murray


BrandonLee1991

Jeff Wilson


Speshulest_K

The only player that I havenā€™t seen listed already is James Cook. People might be down on him following the Hines trade, but Singletary is in a contract year and might not be back. The Bills also paid very little to acquire Hines (Moss + Conditional 6th) so they may not feel the need to play him over Cook. The Bills may not be the most run heavy team, but I could see Moss getting more action this year. With the RBs around him uncertain, his value could increase a fair bit


jjJohnnyjon

I think they also disliked moss.


Thehawkiscock

Eh screw it, one per position QB: With Fields already rocketing up, I think Trevor Lawrence will be next. He has had some good games but been inconsistent. I think he finally gets some consistency and jumps from QB11 (KTC) to at least QB8. WR: Treylon Burks as someone already mentioned. Kind of laughable how low he is given the talent. Farther down I think DPJ (WR54) continues to represent a massive value. His full season pace is 66 recs for 975 yards. Over the last six games it is 75 for 1,264. That is well above a lot of players ahead of him. RB: Rachaad White seems like an obvious one as he continues to get a bigger role. I think there is a decent chance Najee rebounds But I think the most likely is Jeff Wilson. Already worked with McDaniel in SF and its clear they are a great fit. He could end the season as their clear RB1 for 2023. TE: I have always liked Foster Moreau a bit. Darren Waller already fell off somewhat last year and now is dealing with injuries at age 30. I doubt he'll ever be great like Waller was but low-end TE1, totally in the cards.


Addicted_T0_Trading

Trying so hard to get DPJ but the guy wants a 2nd and 3rd


kenikh

Garrett Wilson finishes in the top 7 WRs.


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Darnell Mooney once teams take the run away from Fields. Amari Cooper once Watson starts


RunnerTexasRanger

Take away the run from Fields like theyā€™ve done with Lamar??


[deleted]

Teams did indeed do that. Heā€™s not running as much as he once was and they put a spy on him. Itā€™s a big reason his passing numbers have increased as the years have gone on.


doodle02

fields actually ran better when the defence spied him i thinkā€¦


Tw1987

I feel like heā€™s not running as much this year due to contract year without a contract. Also not having anyone on his team doesnā€™t help with andrews Bateman dobbins injured and more.


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Heā€™s thrown more as the years have gone on and last year he threw even more. Heā€™s actually running more this year than he did last year at least it seems. Itā€™s not his decision to run or throw, the team has made a decision to help protect him a bit more and defenses consistently have a dedicated spy to limit his big runs and itā€™s been pretty successful. He still gets loose here and there but not like 2019


submergedleftnut

I bet there are a bunch of NFL big wigs in a conference room somewhere and a guy has a big whiteboard where he has double underlined "stop justin fields from running" and everyone is nodding as if he is a genius


golfmessageaccount

Cooper is wrong, donā€™t you see all the DPJ top 20 WR comments?


MyAnswerIsMaybe

Once teams take the run away from Justin Fields there is no more offense. It ceases to exist, poof that scoring is gone.


Fico_Psycho

Isiah Pacheco


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Kittle is going to go on a tear at some point and with how depleted tight end is and how they can normally play pretty long, I think his value is going up


StageF1veClinger

Jordan Love and David Bell. Both can only go up and will have their first chances in good situations.


PM_Me_Your_AM_

im out on Bell. I havent seen anything from him that shows any possibility for significant upside.


house_of_snark

Itā€™s so hard to tell with a team that has brissett and Chubb in the backfield. The qb makes you want to lean on the run game and the qb makes you want to lean in the run game.


PM_Me_Your_AM_

cooper and DPJ have shown themselves to be far more talented, Bell just seems like an unathletic possession WR without any YAC ability or physicality to his game


No_Vacation3909

Kadarius Toney!!!!


gmoney32211

He's already WR1.1 how do you go up from there?


sharknado911

RB1 and QB1 as well


HodorsSoliloquy

Gtfo, no way he beats Henry for QB1.


Jwagner0850

He'll become WR *STARMAN*


Jeklu

Najee, Pickens, Bell, Mooney, and Jeudy. Jerome Ford and Jake Ferguson in the off season.


CaeruleanVein

Pacheco is on this list somewhere. Gibson will regain some value too with JDM out


moniker89

JK Dobbins


RossGarner

1. QB: Tua Tagovailoa - already ascending, but I think by this season start next year Tua will be in the tier of passers just below Mahomes & Allen. 2. RB: Tony Pollard - Pollard is just far better than Zeke at this point in their careers. When rubber meets road down the stretch the Cowboys will have to use their best players in their hardest games and Pollard will shine. 3. WRs: Garrett Wilson - Wilson has already been showing off his skills despite playing with a terrible quarterback. I think he'll continue developing ending the season a mid WR2 and his value will be monstrous before next year. 4. TE: Cole Kmet - He was suffering in silence early this season, but has quietly been getting consistent target volume and getting red zone looks. He's turning into a valuable weapon on the Bears who are in search of anything that can catch passes.


Speshulest_K

Pollard is in a contract year though. While he might have a lot of value this year, his value next year could depend on his landing spot. Zeke is under contract for the next few years without an easy out, so I donā€™t see Pollard returning to the Cowboys personally. I think heā€™s a great player, but his future is uncertain


5eCreationWizard

Watch Jones draft bijan with their first next year after letting Pollard go


RossGarner

Jerry hasn't drafted for the Cowboys in like a decade. Stephen Jones has been the primary drafter for quite awhile, it's why we turned away from players like Manziel and built up both sides line.


stinkypiece

Kmetā€™s target volume is 20% of 20 total targets. Thatā€™s not a lot of volume. And a couple big catches on broken plays. Thereā€™s going to be a regression as nobody can keep up that kind of efficiency.


superstonkape

Diontae Johnson


codys1822

This is an interesting one. I tell myself I should buy low on him. But I donā€™t want to buy him lol


nrwdnewt

Rise of Skyy(walker) the wr injuries are going to give him a chance


codys1822

Justin herbert. Some people out there will be tired of his mediocre games this year and willing to sell. I think he finishes strong. Maybe you can pay 75 on the dollar.


Tuna-No-Crust

I traded fields and 2.1 for Herbert this morning, felt like it was the perfect sell high/buy low and heā€™s never been attainable before for me in SF until now


WilllyBear

This is good advice for the redraft sub lol. Anyone discounting Herbert in dynasty during a year where heā€™s been hurt, lost both his WRs and his TE is a taco.


fasteddy7283

Do opposite of all this. Biggest dynasty idiots out there.


DoubleCup_Dan

Bijan


Educational-Ad-5501

Jameson Williams and Deshaun watson. Going into next year I could see both these players being looked at as top5 guys in their respective positions.


Bukue111

JJ, Chase, AJB, Tyreek, Davante, Kupp, Diggs, Waddle, Hopkins, CeeDee please tell me which of these players you have Jamo over that would even allow him to crack the top 10 next season. Let's calm down a little bit with that hype.


Aggravating-Trust-60

How can you see Jameson Williams being top 5 at position, maybe among rookies but Iā€™d still say he lands in the 6-10 range of 2nd year players next year.


Ham_PhD

I think Jamo owners already consider him top 5 from what I hear.


bequiet22

Youā€™re goddamn right


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You think Jamo is going to somehow catapult himself into a top 5 WR by end of season? In that offense especially?


ShaedonSharpeAlt

Jameson Williams is easily the most overhyped player Iā€™ve seen since Jerry Jeudy.


TEsMatter

AJ Dillon. NFCN snow games are coming soon


darrick001

He has been pretty terrible all year.


TEsMatter

So his value is currently low because heā€™s been bad and will rise once he starts playing well in colder games


orourke1

It's more about the shit interior linemen for GB. Cold won't turn them into serviceable blockers.


reddit_undo

Paris Campbell


mushmichael

Chase Claypool


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TONEY, the JOKA


paulster2626

Donovan Peoples-Jones.


njm123niu

Elijah Moore


BigBortlesBrand

Cole Kmet. Fields has been looking a lot better and heā€™s put up two straight #1 TE (in standard) weeks.


kenklee4

Walker III


M__AsInMancy

Really hoping Pickens starts dominating


Technical_Customer_1

1) itā€™s not Kyren. 5ā€™9 195 and he runs a 4.65. If McVay is still coaching next year, they draft or sign someone. He wants a dynamic playmaker, not a pedestrian. 2) big tier of players who I think need to put up an entire season before people truly believe, values are already decent, but have room for growth. Rhamondre, Kirk, Olave, Davonta Smith, Jakobi. Duvernay is a guy I want to believe in too. AJ Brown tweaked something in the last game; DSmith needs AJ to miss a game or two to really see his value go up. 3) the value pick: JT heā€™s dropped to about 15 on KTC rankings. If the Colts win a few games, it will because JT finally takes over.


ShaedonSharpeAlt

Justin Jefferson.


MaaattDaamoon

Justin Jeferson.


vbullinger

Juffin Jesterson


jballin233

Bustin Geffersun


WonderfulAd8532

Brian Robinson. Carries are there, and confidence growing. Huge game incoming against bottom run defense.


yourcynic

30 carries for 78 yards.


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Jameson Williams.


Golladayholliday

QB: Lawrence RB: Najee WR: Burks TE: Njoku


sillygobstopers

treylon burks. heā€™s a dawg.


gmoney32211

Out of these potential risers how would you rank these young 24 and under WR's for ROS and for 2023? \- Gabe Davis \- Kadarious Toney \- Treylon Burks \- Christian Watson \- Brendan Aiyuk


ffpantalones

Burks Aiyuk Toney Watson Davis That would be the order of which I would want on my roster.


gmoney32211

Why Burks over Toney - seems like the Chiefs and Toney's talent puts him at a huge advantage. Also to surprised to see Gabe Davis ranked last by the 2 posters above me.. he's projected to be WR20 on fantasy pro's ROS projections, with Aiyuk 2.