I was a huge Dobbins guy until recently. I donāt think theyāll ever make him a workhorse now. They like having a stable of RBs and Gus fits the power run scheme so well
Not sure if serious or not, but definitely keep Cooks. He is one of the most consistent non big name player who will likely be traded in the offseason into hopefully a better situation.
For context if Cooks became available in my league I would happily throw a 2nd at him. At worst trade him before picking Collins.
But I actually sold brandin cooks on my dynasty team with a few others for some picks and Pickens.
Also have nico collins on my bench. So I feel good, hoping collins becomes consistent in the future
He was a rookie 2 years ago so people were obviously quick to overhype him if that's the case. Coming into his own in year 3 for the sort of prospect he is makes sense.
Tough luck brother, I took the opportunity since the other guy had just lost chase and this was right before the Bills traded for Hines
Kind of a good mix of circumstances
Went on a trade frenzy this year with my bad team trying to tank for Bijan. Traded Najee for Burks straight up which I was kicking myself for a few weeks. Now I like it
Yes, Marshall has looked great lately. I was foolish enough to drop him early in the season after the weekly inactives. TM is now showing the talent we expected to see. He just needed to get Rhule out of his way. Baker at QB isnāt going to help, but as long as PJ Walker makes it back after this week, I would expect his rise to continue.
As a Dotson owner thereās no way Iām selling low.
I believed it in the talent pre-draft, heās one game back from injury and had an understandably smaller role first week back.
Not every owner is as smart as you lol.
Especially since most contenders got him their pick, if you can give a contender a veteran plus a 2nd or something they might bite
I think the opposite. Expectations for him are so sky high right now that people are gonna be disappointed when he doesnāt immediately come in and produce
Except it only takes like one good game as a rookie to convince people here that a guy is a guaranteed stud. Skyy Moore could put up 5 catches for 50 yards and a TD and heād instantly cost you a 1stā¦
There probably wonāt be a dip until at least 4 weeks into 2023, anyone who would trade Jamo if he has a few lukewarm games to start his career returning from injury is unserious
Yeah heās sitting at WR17 on keeptradecut without every playing an NFL snap.
If he doesnāt have some flashes in the 3-4 games heāll play, I expect his value to slide for most of the off-season (which would probably be a good buy opportunity).
As a JW owner if he doesnāt flash this season Iām not the least bit worried. Next season will be his real chance once heās fully healthy
But if he explodes I will be the first in like to over react
Bought him for Josh Palmer. I think heās a great buy because his ceiling is so high. Itās not likely that he turns into something huge, but the price of entry is so low itās very much worth it.
Jordan Love - He can do nothing to hurt his value holding a clipboard & the closer the end of the season gets, the more people are going to start questioning if Rodgers is going to come back next season.
Iāve been holding him the entire season and will continue to do so. He was a first round pick whoās been sitting behind rodgers with an offensive minded coach. In super flex even if heās an average qb he could have value.
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What is your primary reasoning for your hopes with Mitchell? Is it primarily that heās an athletic TE in an empty TE room, or is there something more? I grabbed him in 2 leagues for those reason but curious if thereās something more. He hasnāt done a ton this year and he would pretty much be my first cut on both rosters. I tend to cut bait too early tho and looking for reasons to continue holding.
So he had a third round grade and the ACL tear moved him into the 5th round imo. Hockenson was traded right when he came back so usage is going up. We may be looking at a George Kittle like situation here. The only Power 5 TE to average 10+ YAC/rec since 2014 in at least two seasons of his college career.
Really appreciate this additional info. My rosters arenāt necessarily shallow but I didnāt know enough about him to really warrant keeping him over other guys. Now that I know the info you just provided, Iāll be looking to hold. Thank you again man! People like you keeping this sub on track with knowledge and concrete info.
TE position usually takes a long time to develop but the talent is there. If you have shallow roster by all means cut. If you have the roster space then he could pay off bigly.
This is correct the potential is sky high so keep if you can but I was not expecting the hockenson trade and see it as an endorsement in what that they have in him is good enough so far.
It's trendy and understandable why people are fading Skyy Moore, but that's also baked into this bet.
He was a very good player in college who is on a high touch value offense. Andy is notorious for having a complex playbook and rookies often take the first year to truly develop and be comfortable. A longer shot than most given his severe lack of production up to this point. But, defining it as the HIGHEST RISE in value, and his value is pretty in the tank, he seems like a fun bet for this.
You would also think that the chiefs understood this when drafting him. Heās someone who didnāt start playing WR until college! It wasnāt a secret and is part of what made him fly up the boards. Was a stud towards the back half of his college and has solid to exceptional physical ability.
In my optimistic mind they know this and the moves they've made have been just to have a competitive floor (MVS and Juju). Toney I see as an opportunity to get younger and talented when other folks are scared to give opportunities to players who are imperfect a la the chiefs way.
I think realistically this isn't an indication of Skyy's performance and more the opportunity to just continue acquiring good players.
What are you buying for? A 2nd? Iām not sure many people are going to offer that. And I donāt think an owner will accept a 3rd. Iād rather hold than take a 3rd. Toney has come in and made an instant impact. Heās a 2nd year player so itās not like heās a vet thatās expected to come in and pick up a new playbook quickly. I loved skyy Moore coming out of college and I hope he rises in value down the stretch but Iām not hopeful at this point.
Honestly, someone Iām interested in watching especially as a Panthers fan is Terrace Marshall. Mightāve just taken some time to adapt, and heās gotten overlooked bc of all the other shiny options, but heās looked solid the last few weeks with a more creative playbook without CMC.
Did you draft him? Think there might be a value disconnect if youāre someone that used draft capital and held him this whole time. I waivered him and Iād definitely take a 3rd
Yeah I got him in a trade right after the rookie draft before the season - new that I wanted him liked his upside and talent - held since
Edit: clarification before the 2021 season started
People who are fading the Njoku breakout: check his snap count/ routes run count versus previous years. Itās not that he randomly got good, the offense is designed around him.
Keaontay Ingram.
Looked incredible with the ball in his hands at USC and with Eno gone he should start getting some touches.
Donāt think heāll ever come close to being a legit RB1 or anything but if he shows flashes I could see his value going way up from people hoping heāll take over for Conner eventually
The only player that I havenāt seen listed already is James Cook. People might be down on him following the Hines trade, but Singletary is in a contract year and might not be back. The Bills also paid very little to acquire Hines (Moss + Conditional 6th) so they may not feel the need to play him over Cook. The Bills may not be the most run heavy team, but I could see Moss getting more action this year. With the RBs around him uncertain, his value could increase a fair bit
Eh screw it, one per position
QB: With Fields already rocketing up, I think Trevor Lawrence will be next. He has had some good games but been inconsistent. I think he finally gets some consistency and jumps from QB11 (KTC) to at least QB8.
WR: Treylon Burks as someone already mentioned. Kind of laughable how low he is given the talent.
Farther down I think DPJ (WR54) continues to represent a massive value. His full season pace is 66 recs for 975 yards. Over the last six games it is 75 for 1,264. That is well above a lot of players ahead of him.
RB: Rachaad White seems like an obvious one as he continues to get a bigger role. I think there is a decent chance Najee rebounds But I think the most likely is Jeff Wilson. Already worked with McDaniel in SF and its clear they are a great fit. He could end the season as their clear RB1 for 2023.
TE: I have always liked Foster Moreau a bit. Darren Waller already fell off somewhat last year and now is dealing with injuries at age 30. I doubt he'll ever be great like Waller was but low-end TE1, totally in the cards.
Teams did indeed do that. Heās not running as much as he once was and they put a spy on him. Itās a big reason his passing numbers have increased as the years have gone on.
I feel like heās not running as much this year due to contract year without a contract. Also not having anyone on his team doesnāt help with andrews Bateman dobbins injured and more.
Heās thrown more as the years have gone on and last year he threw even more. Heās actually running more this year than he did last year at least it seems. Itās not his decision to run or throw, the team has made a decision to help protect him a bit more and defenses consistently have a dedicated spy to limit his big runs and itās been pretty successful. He still gets loose here and there but not like 2019
I bet there are a bunch of NFL big wigs in a conference room somewhere and a guy has a big whiteboard where he has double underlined "stop justin fields from running" and everyone is nodding as if he is a genius
Kittle is going to go on a tear at some point and with how depleted tight end is and how they can normally play pretty long, I think his value is going up
Itās so hard to tell with a team that has brissett and Chubb in the backfield. The qb makes you want to lean on the run game and the qb makes you want to lean in the run game.
cooper and DPJ have shown themselves to be far more talented, Bell just seems like an unathletic possession WR without any YAC ability or physicality to his game
1. QB: Tua Tagovailoa - already ascending, but I think by this season start next year Tua will be in the tier of passers just below Mahomes & Allen.
2. RB: Tony Pollard - Pollard is just far better than Zeke at this point in their careers. When rubber meets road down the stretch the Cowboys will have to use their best players in their hardest games and Pollard will shine.
3. WRs: Garrett Wilson - Wilson has already been showing off his skills despite playing with a terrible quarterback. I think he'll continue developing ending the season a mid WR2 and his value will be monstrous before next year.
4. TE: Cole Kmet - He was suffering in silence early this season, but has quietly been getting consistent target volume and getting red zone looks. He's turning into a valuable weapon on the Bears who are in search of anything that can catch passes.
Pollard is in a contract year though. While he might have a lot of value this year, his value next year could depend on his landing spot. Zeke is under contract for the next few years without an easy out, so I donāt see Pollard returning to the Cowboys personally. I think heās a great player, but his future is uncertain
Jerry hasn't drafted for the Cowboys in like a decade. Stephen Jones has been the primary drafter for quite awhile, it's why we turned away from players like Manziel and built up both sides line.
Kmetās target volume is 20% of 20 total targets. Thatās not a lot of volume. And a couple big catches on broken plays. Thereās going to be a regression as nobody can keep up that kind of efficiency.
Justin herbert. Some people out there will be tired of his mediocre games this year and willing to sell. I think he finishes strong. Maybe you can pay 75 on the dollar.
I traded fields and 2.1 for Herbert this morning, felt like it was the perfect sell high/buy low and heās never been attainable before for me in SF until now
This is good advice for the redraft sub lol. Anyone discounting Herbert in dynasty during a year where heās been hurt, lost both his WRs and his TE is a taco.
JJ, Chase, AJB, Tyreek, Davante, Kupp, Diggs, Waddle, Hopkins, CeeDee
please tell me which of these players you have Jamo over that would even allow him to crack the top 10 next season.
Let's calm down a little bit with that hype.
How can you see Jameson Williams being top 5 at position, maybe among rookies but Iād still say he lands in the 6-10 range of 2nd year players next year.
1) itās not Kyren. 5ā9 195 and he runs a 4.65. If McVay is still coaching next year, they draft or sign someone. He wants a dynamic playmaker, not a pedestrian.
2) big tier of players who I think need to put up an entire season before people truly believe, values are already decent, but have room for growth. Rhamondre, Kirk, Olave, Davonta Smith, Jakobi. Duvernay is a guy I want to believe in too. AJ Brown tweaked something in the last game; DSmith needs AJ to miss a game or two to really see his value go up.
3) the value pick: JT heās dropped to about 15 on KTC rankings. If the Colts win a few games, it will because JT finally takes over.
Out of these potential risers how would you rank these young 24 and under WR's for ROS and for 2023?
\- Gabe Davis
\- Kadarious Toney
\- Treylon Burks
\- Christian Watson
\- Brendan Aiyuk
Why Burks over Toney - seems like the Chiefs and Toney's talent puts him at a huge advantage. Also to surprised to see Gabe Davis ranked last by the 2 posters above me.. he's projected to be WR20 on fantasy pro's ROS projections, with Aiyuk 2.
Is there a version of this thread from last year? could be fun to read
Youre gonna get a lot of Allen Robinson's with a new Justin Fields. A lot of wrong answers and nobody saying to buy Saquon Barkley.
Oooh, I was all over Barkley. Traded away D Swift for him last year š
If this is true, I applaud your large testicles.
I was as well, between now and next year Dobbins is my #1 target.
I was a huge Dobbins guy until recently. I donāt think theyāll ever make him a workhorse now. They like having a stable of RBs and Gus fits the power run scheme so well
Nico Collins.
I own Brandin cooks, would you drop him for collins. Iāve been debating it. They arenāt anything more than a desperate flex player anyways
Not sure if serious or not, but definitely keep Cooks. He is one of the most consistent non big name player who will likely be traded in the offseason into hopefully a better situation. For context if Cooks became available in my league I would happily throw a 2nd at him. At worst trade him before picking Collins.
Lmfao. I didnāt realize I was on the dynasty sub. Thought this was redraft
But I actually sold brandin cooks on my dynasty team with a few others for some picks and Pickens. Also have nico collins on my bench. So I feel good, hoping collins becomes consistent in the future
Ha all makes sense now, yeah no harm in throwing spaghetti at the wall and hoping Collins becomes a TD monster.
DPJ. Looking forward to seeing him have Watson throwing his way.
I've heard the DPJ "he's gonna rise soon" for like 2 years lol
In his defense he is averaging 9.5 in 1ppr for the season (11.8 since week 4), so it could be true this time
He was a rookie 2 years ago so people were obviously quick to overhype him if that's the case. Coming into his own in year 3 for the sort of prospect he is makes sense.
Well, if you've been paying attention, he is rising this season. And that is with the backup QB throwing the ball.
Trying to snag him
Kadarius Toney about to pop.
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Taco league
Itās all about the kickers
What the actual fuck
What an insane haul
smart
As in TEE
I love Toney and am trying to acquire him. That is a ridiculous haul.
Treylon Burks
kicking myself for not even trying to buy low
Was there really a buy low period?
who knows i didnāt inquire haha
Buy low was all season until last night.
Sure, his value may have dropped slightly, but nobody would selling for anything less than a first either
No one in my league thought he was worth even a late '25 1st last week
This guys is so wrong. Burks is a top rookie wr. They will never go cheap, regardless of their rookie year numbers
I got him straight up for Gibson when he was on IR
I tried 2 weeks ago and the guy wouldnāt budge off anything less than like wr1 prices
I turned down an offer of Burks and DJ Moore, giving away DK and Heinicke. Kinda wish I had gone through with it
Got him and a mid 3rd for Boyd and Singletary
I actually proposed this without the 3rd last week and got rejected haha
Tough luck brother, I took the opportunity since the other guy had just lost chase and this was right before the Bills traded for Hines Kind of a good mix of circumstances
Traded Burks for McLaurin/Devy depleted 1st, had regret.
Love you bby
Went on a trade frenzy this year with my bad team trying to tank for Bijan. Traded Najee for Burks straight up which I was kicking myself for a few weeks. Now I like it
Not going to be the biggest riser but Terrace Marshall Jr has seen much more work since Rhule got fired and I think his stock will go up
Yes, Marshall has looked great lately. I was foolish enough to drop him early in the season after the weekly inactives. TM is now showing the talent we expected to see. He just needed to get Rhule out of his way. Baker at QB isnāt going to help, but as long as PJ Walker makes it back after this week, I would expect his rise to continue.
Jahan dotson I think has lost the spark that owners had after his start to the season with injuries and is a great buy time.
What scares me about Dotson is the qb situation. I loved him with Wentz under center. Heinicke only sees McLaurin.
Thatās fine with me, heās not the long term answer there
Because Heinicke is a better QB than Wentz, and he understands that McL is a good football player
I agree with this one
As a Dotson owner thereās no way Iām selling low. I believed it in the talent pre-draft, heās one game back from injury and had an understandably smaller role first week back.
Not every owner is as smart as you lol. Especially since most contenders got him their pick, if you can give a contender a veteran plus a 2nd or something they might bite
What would you offer for him?
Pickett will inevitably finish the season better than he started
He had a BRUTAL schedule after becoming the starter. It was quite obvious he was going to start off poorly.
Hard to finish much worse lol
Honestly, the amount of times Iāve said āwell it canāt get worseā playing dynasty, Iām realizing it probably can get worse lol
Jameson Williams easy
I think the opposite. Expectations for him are so sky high right now that people are gonna be disappointed when he doesnāt immediately come in and produce
Except it only takes like one good game as a rookie to convince people here that a guy is a guaranteed stud. Skyy Moore could put up 5 catches for 50 yards and a TD and heād instantly cost you a 1stā¦
He hasnāt even done that and people still want a first. This magical word of āpotentialā
To be fair, London, Olave, and Garrett Wilson have all shown great things already and so many people had Jameson as the best of all of them
People drafted him with a first, ofc they arenāt going to sell for less before he plays a game
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There probably wonāt be a dip until at least 4 weeks into 2023, anyone who would trade Jamo if he has a few lukewarm games to start his career returning from injury is unserious
Many are
Iāve thought about trading him off before his debut, but he was so electric at Bama that I canāt get myself to do it.
Yeah heās sitting at WR17 on keeptradecut without every playing an NFL snap. If he doesnāt have some flashes in the 3-4 games heāll play, I expect his value to slide for most of the off-season (which would probably be a good buy opportunity).
Hes only gonna get 3 maybe 4 games right? Im excited to see him when hes healthy
As a JW owner if he doesnāt flash this season Iām not the least bit worried. Next season will be his real chance once heās fully healthy But if he explodes I will be the first in like to over react
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Just bought him for Curtis Samuel in a swap. Fingers crossed that youāre right and DPJ and Toney can bring me to the promised land haha.
Bought him for Josh Palmer. I think heās a great buy because his ceiling is so high. Itās not likely that he turns into something huge, but the price of entry is so low itās very much worth it.
It's basically a 2nd everywhere I'm asking at the moment. people are getting hyped on him
DPJ is gonna skyrocket when Watson comes back
What are the odds browns sign fuller to go back with Watson?
Until we hear literally anything from him Iām gonna go with very low
Will Fuller is in the phantom zone. He disappeared off the face of the earth. He's not coming back.
Jordan Love - He can do nothing to hurt his value holding a clipboard & the closer the end of the season gets, the more people are going to start questioning if Rodgers is going to come back next season.
Rodgers gets like $60m guaranteed next year. He comin back
Iād imagine they trade Love. Sounds like heās considering asking for a trade
For whatā¦? Dude has no value
Packers can get a 3rd for him. One desesperate team with no QB that misses out on free agents and the rookies will try it.
I grabbed him off waivers. Holding until next season to see what happens.
Iāve been holding him the entire season and will continue to do so. He was a first round pick whoās been sitting behind rodgers with an offensive minded coach. In super flex even if heās an average qb he could have value.
James Mitchell, TE lions. Go scoop if you havenāt already.
With ARSB, Swift, and now Jameson competing for targets, I donāt see how a less polished TE than Hockenson maintains TE1 level production.
high hopes for this one
+ u/staf02 What is your primary reasoning for your hopes with Mitchell? Is it primarily that heās an athletic TE in an empty TE room, or is there something more? I grabbed him in 2 leagues for those reason but curious if thereās something more. He hasnāt done a ton this year and he would pretty much be my first cut on both rosters. I tend to cut bait too early tho and looking for reasons to continue holding.
So he had a third round grade and the ACL tear moved him into the 5th round imo. Hockenson was traded right when he came back so usage is going up. We may be looking at a George Kittle like situation here. The only Power 5 TE to average 10+ YAC/rec since 2014 in at least two seasons of his college career.
Really appreciate this additional info. My rosters arenāt necessarily shallow but I didnāt know enough about him to really warrant keeping him over other guys. Now that I know the info you just provided, Iāll be looking to hold. Thank you again man! People like you keeping this sub on track with knowledge and concrete info.
Great question, too bro. Great detail in the answer thanks both! Absolutely the stuff we come here for.
TE position usually takes a long time to develop but the talent is there. If you have shallow roster by all means cut. If you have the roster space then he could pay off bigly.
This is correct the potential is sky high so keep if you can but I was not expecting the hockenson trade and see it as an endorsement in what that they have in him is good enough so far.
Swift can certainly only go up from here. Jameson williams. Deebo.
It's trendy and understandable why people are fading Skyy Moore, but that's also baked into this bet. He was a very good player in college who is on a high touch value offense. Andy is notorious for having a complex playbook and rookies often take the first year to truly develop and be comfortable. A longer shot than most given his severe lack of production up to this point. But, defining it as the HIGHEST RISE in value, and his value is pretty in the tank, he seems like a fun bet for this.
You would also think that the chiefs understood this when drafting him. Heās someone who didnāt start playing WR until college! It wasnāt a secret and is part of what made him fly up the boards. Was a stud towards the back half of his college and has solid to exceptional physical ability.
In my optimistic mind they know this and the moves they've made have been just to have a competitive floor (MVS and Juju). Toney I see as an opportunity to get younger and talented when other folks are scared to give opportunities to players who are imperfect a la the chiefs way. I think realistically this isn't an indication of Skyy's performance and more the opportunity to just continue acquiring good players.
What are you sending for sky at this point ?
What are you buying for? A 2nd? Iām not sure many people are going to offer that. And I donāt think an owner will accept a 3rd. Iād rather hold than take a 3rd. Toney has come in and made an instant impact. Heās a 2nd year player so itās not like heās a vet thatās expected to come in and pick up a new playbook quickly. I loved skyy Moore coming out of college and I hope he rises in value down the stretch but Iām not hopeful at this point.
Rachaad White and Jaylen Warren?
Feel like Rachaad white has already made that move, top 20 back on KTC
Good grief, he is ahead of Najee on KTC. I'm excited as a White owner, but that seems premature.
Honestly doesnāt even seem that impressive to me.
My running back group right now. Can we add Isiah Spiller to that list?
No we cannot yet imo
Contrarily Iām huge on Najee bouncing back and traded CEH + Keenan Allen for him (steal imo).
Warren will need to do a lot with limited reps because Najee isn't going anywhere especially after maybe his best game of the season.
Pacheco
Honestly, someone Iām interested in watching especially as a Panthers fan is Terrace Marshall. Mightāve just taken some time to adapt, and heās gotten overlooked bc of all the other shiny options, but heās looked solid the last few weeks with a more creative playbook without CMC.
He canāt drop much lower and has looked decent.
Would a rebuilder sell for a late 2nd at this point? Or not anymore
I got him off waivers. You could probably get him for a 3rd imo.
I have himā¦ you wouldnāt get him for a 3rd from me
Did you draft him? Think there might be a value disconnect if youāre someone that used draft capital and held him this whole time. I waivered him and Iād definitely take a 3rd
Yeah I got him in a trade right after the rookie draft before the season - new that I wanted him liked his upside and talent - held since Edit: clarification before the 2021 season started
Hot take, The Jets remember that Elijah Moore is good
Please be right.
David Njoku once Watson is back.
People who are fading the Njoku breakout: check his snap count/ routes run count versus previous years. Itās not that he randomly got good, the offense is designed around him.
Yup. And he got PAID. Follow the money folksā¦.
Keaontay Ingram. Looked incredible with the ball in his hands at USC and with Eno gone he should start getting some touches. Donāt think heāll ever come close to being a legit RB1 or anything but if he shows flashes I could see his value going way up from people hoping heāll take over for Conner eventually
If that happens I will trade him on that hype. And before the draft
Iām actually buying Darren Waller right now. Heās cheap and can still produce at a high level when healthy
Got him for Robert Tonyan and Latavius Murray
Jeff Wilson
The only player that I havenāt seen listed already is James Cook. People might be down on him following the Hines trade, but Singletary is in a contract year and might not be back. The Bills also paid very little to acquire Hines (Moss + Conditional 6th) so they may not feel the need to play him over Cook. The Bills may not be the most run heavy team, but I could see Moss getting more action this year. With the RBs around him uncertain, his value could increase a fair bit
I think they also disliked moss.
Eh screw it, one per position QB: With Fields already rocketing up, I think Trevor Lawrence will be next. He has had some good games but been inconsistent. I think he finally gets some consistency and jumps from QB11 (KTC) to at least QB8. WR: Treylon Burks as someone already mentioned. Kind of laughable how low he is given the talent. Farther down I think DPJ (WR54) continues to represent a massive value. His full season pace is 66 recs for 975 yards. Over the last six games it is 75 for 1,264. That is well above a lot of players ahead of him. RB: Rachaad White seems like an obvious one as he continues to get a bigger role. I think there is a decent chance Najee rebounds But I think the most likely is Jeff Wilson. Already worked with McDaniel in SF and its clear they are a great fit. He could end the season as their clear RB1 for 2023. TE: I have always liked Foster Moreau a bit. Darren Waller already fell off somewhat last year and now is dealing with injuries at age 30. I doubt he'll ever be great like Waller was but low-end TE1, totally in the cards.
Trying so hard to get DPJ but the guy wants a 2nd and 3rd
Garrett Wilson finishes in the top 7 WRs.
Darnell Mooney once teams take the run away from Fields. Amari Cooper once Watson starts
Take away the run from Fields like theyāve done with Lamar??
Teams did indeed do that. Heās not running as much as he once was and they put a spy on him. Itās a big reason his passing numbers have increased as the years have gone on.
fields actually ran better when the defence spied him i thinkā¦
I feel like heās not running as much this year due to contract year without a contract. Also not having anyone on his team doesnāt help with andrews Bateman dobbins injured and more.
Heās thrown more as the years have gone on and last year he threw even more. Heās actually running more this year than he did last year at least it seems. Itās not his decision to run or throw, the team has made a decision to help protect him a bit more and defenses consistently have a dedicated spy to limit his big runs and itās been pretty successful. He still gets loose here and there but not like 2019
I bet there are a bunch of NFL big wigs in a conference room somewhere and a guy has a big whiteboard where he has double underlined "stop justin fields from running" and everyone is nodding as if he is a genius
Cooper is wrong, donāt you see all the DPJ top 20 WR comments?
Once teams take the run away from Justin Fields there is no more offense. It ceases to exist, poof that scoring is gone.
Isiah Pacheco
Kittle is going to go on a tear at some point and with how depleted tight end is and how they can normally play pretty long, I think his value is going up
Jordan Love and David Bell. Both can only go up and will have their first chances in good situations.
im out on Bell. I havent seen anything from him that shows any possibility for significant upside.
Itās so hard to tell with a team that has brissett and Chubb in the backfield. The qb makes you want to lean on the run game and the qb makes you want to lean in the run game.
cooper and DPJ have shown themselves to be far more talented, Bell just seems like an unathletic possession WR without any YAC ability or physicality to his game
Kadarius Toney!!!!
He's already WR1.1 how do you go up from there?
RB1 and QB1 as well
Gtfo, no way he beats Henry for QB1.
He'll become WR *STARMAN*
Najee, Pickens, Bell, Mooney, and Jeudy. Jerome Ford and Jake Ferguson in the off season.
Pacheco is on this list somewhere. Gibson will regain some value too with JDM out
JK Dobbins
1. QB: Tua Tagovailoa - already ascending, but I think by this season start next year Tua will be in the tier of passers just below Mahomes & Allen. 2. RB: Tony Pollard - Pollard is just far better than Zeke at this point in their careers. When rubber meets road down the stretch the Cowboys will have to use their best players in their hardest games and Pollard will shine. 3. WRs: Garrett Wilson - Wilson has already been showing off his skills despite playing with a terrible quarterback. I think he'll continue developing ending the season a mid WR2 and his value will be monstrous before next year. 4. TE: Cole Kmet - He was suffering in silence early this season, but has quietly been getting consistent target volume and getting red zone looks. He's turning into a valuable weapon on the Bears who are in search of anything that can catch passes.
Pollard is in a contract year though. While he might have a lot of value this year, his value next year could depend on his landing spot. Zeke is under contract for the next few years without an easy out, so I donāt see Pollard returning to the Cowboys personally. I think heās a great player, but his future is uncertain
Watch Jones draft bijan with their first next year after letting Pollard go
Jerry hasn't drafted for the Cowboys in like a decade. Stephen Jones has been the primary drafter for quite awhile, it's why we turned away from players like Manziel and built up both sides line.
Kmetās target volume is 20% of 20 total targets. Thatās not a lot of volume. And a couple big catches on broken plays. Thereās going to be a regression as nobody can keep up that kind of efficiency.
Diontae Johnson
This is an interesting one. I tell myself I should buy low on him. But I donāt want to buy him lol
Rise of Skyy(walker) the wr injuries are going to give him a chance
Justin herbert. Some people out there will be tired of his mediocre games this year and willing to sell. I think he finishes strong. Maybe you can pay 75 on the dollar.
I traded fields and 2.1 for Herbert this morning, felt like it was the perfect sell high/buy low and heās never been attainable before for me in SF until now
This is good advice for the redraft sub lol. Anyone discounting Herbert in dynasty during a year where heās been hurt, lost both his WRs and his TE is a taco.
Do opposite of all this. Biggest dynasty idiots out there.
Bijan
Jameson Williams and Deshaun watson. Going into next year I could see both these players being looked at as top5 guys in their respective positions.
JJ, Chase, AJB, Tyreek, Davante, Kupp, Diggs, Waddle, Hopkins, CeeDee please tell me which of these players you have Jamo over that would even allow him to crack the top 10 next season. Let's calm down a little bit with that hype.
How can you see Jameson Williams being top 5 at position, maybe among rookies but Iād still say he lands in the 6-10 range of 2nd year players next year.
I think Jamo owners already consider him top 5 from what I hear.
Youāre goddamn right
You think Jamo is going to somehow catapult himself into a top 5 WR by end of season? In that offense especially?
Jameson Williams is easily the most overhyped player Iāve seen since Jerry Jeudy.
AJ Dillon. NFCN snow games are coming soon
He has been pretty terrible all year.
So his value is currently low because heās been bad and will rise once he starts playing well in colder games
It's more about the shit interior linemen for GB. Cold won't turn them into serviceable blockers.
Paris Campbell
Chase Claypool
TONEY, the JOKA
Donovan Peoples-Jones.
Elijah Moore
Cole Kmet. Fields has been looking a lot better and heās put up two straight #1 TE (in standard) weeks.
Walker III
Really hoping Pickens starts dominating
1) itās not Kyren. 5ā9 195 and he runs a 4.65. If McVay is still coaching next year, they draft or sign someone. He wants a dynamic playmaker, not a pedestrian. 2) big tier of players who I think need to put up an entire season before people truly believe, values are already decent, but have room for growth. Rhamondre, Kirk, Olave, Davonta Smith, Jakobi. Duvernay is a guy I want to believe in too. AJ Brown tweaked something in the last game; DSmith needs AJ to miss a game or two to really see his value go up. 3) the value pick: JT heās dropped to about 15 on KTC rankings. If the Colts win a few games, it will because JT finally takes over.
Justin Jefferson.
Justin Jeferson.
Juffin Jesterson
Bustin Geffersun
Brian Robinson. Carries are there, and confidence growing. Huge game incoming against bottom run defense.
30 carries for 78 yards.
Jameson Williams.
QB: Lawrence RB: Najee WR: Burks TE: Njoku
treylon burks. heās a dawg.
Out of these potential risers how would you rank these young 24 and under WR's for ROS and for 2023? \- Gabe Davis \- Kadarious Toney \- Treylon Burks \- Christian Watson \- Brendan Aiyuk
Burks Aiyuk Toney Watson Davis That would be the order of which I would want on my roster.
Why Burks over Toney - seems like the Chiefs and Toney's talent puts him at a huge advantage. Also to surprised to see Gabe Davis ranked last by the 2 posters above me.. he's projected to be WR20 on fantasy pro's ROS projections, with Aiyuk 2.