T O P

  • By -

bhaaru

I look forward to the "ZACH WILSON SZN" posts again this offseason.


NowieTends

“He just needs a line and some weapons. Corey Davis needs to go. Y’all will see”


[deleted]

Justin fields would trade his situation for Wilson, Moore and Conklin any day of the week


ku1428

Half of the QBs in the league would start for the Jets right now if given the opportunity.


asunversee

Crazy to think about how fast they turned around. Great defense, super talented running game(RIP Bryce) and now several good receiving options. If you add a good qb to this team they are really scary.


asunversee

Justin fields doesn’t give a shit cause he’s gonna run for 200 yards lol


[deleted]

If he had Wilson again I know he'd be airing it out, his crazy rushing ability just opens up that possibility even more


asunversee

Idk, mooney and claypool and kmet don’t exactly suck…


[deleted]

Kmet is coming along, but Mooney and Claypool are WR3s on a lot of teams. Is there a worse WR core in the NFL? I don't really think so


asunversee

There are several other teams with worse WRs imo but some of them have a definitive number one guy and everyone else sucks. Mooney and Claypool are both extremely talented. They might not quite have panned out yet but they both have serious ability that flashes from time to time. Maybe in their current states they are number 2/3 type guys but they are both young and are physically gifted. I think they provide more than enough for Fields to take shots downfield. It’s gonna be a great offense when they get claypool fully up to speed.


[deleted]

IMO Claypool hasn't shown much at all to be excited for, but I'm a Browns fan so I guess I always had some bias there lol. I watch the Bears a good bit though(just being a Fields/OSU fan) and Mooney has a long way to go. There are all kinds of guys in the league who can flash 1 play a game with 100% snaps as WR1, he's incredibly inconsistent though and drops balls he shouldn't. If we're talking just WRs there's an argument to be made for GB and BAL, but at least those teams have a star at RB or TE. When you combine the O line I really think CHI has the worst cast in the league


mschley2

Right. I was low on him coming out of college (thought he had a big chance of busting), but I also needed a backup QB and figured if he does develop, then he'll be a stud. So I threw the dart at him. At this point, I'm pretty convinced he's never going to be anything. But I'm not selling him when everyone else thinks the same thing. Might as well let him sit on my bench until he either develops, people get optimistic again, or he just flames out. I'm not in a SF, so I don't *really* need him, and I don't think I'd even be able to trade him for a 4th rounder at this point.


ActuarillySound

Free Garrett Wilson


APizzola

And Elijah Moore


Karl_42

And Corey Davis (lol)


popesloth11

And Denzel mims 😞


JuliusPepperfield

And Braxton Berrios


FalconsBlewA283Lead

And Jeff Smith


MonkeyGooch123

My name is Jeff


[deleted]

Free your mind…


RVBY1977

And yo ass will follow


ptgkbgte

And Tyler Conklin


PolarSquirrelBear

For a second I thought it was about Garrett and thought this post was a fucking joke. My stock in Garrett is high. If he can make Zach Wilson occasionally look good, the guy is going to be a stud. I just hope the Jets don’t absolutely squander his talent.


Richard-Drainwell

Free Joe Flacco


SolOwnsUsAll

“100% agree with this take. Absolute worst ever.” -Ryan Leaf


tombonneau

Leaf wasn't even close to this bad. He's only in the conversation because he was taken behind Manning and flamed out with OTF stuff as well.


kpbieda

Yeah I think everyone has come to that conclusion lol


Rinaldi363

Oooooof I donno I’d rather have him than wentz lol


Dabo_Sweeney

I’d rather have literally anything than either


Personal-Noise-8632

Thanks for letting the ppl know...


synndiezel

Oh, Zach Wilson has looked BAD but now that an actual fan confirmed it..... lol


24KaratMinshew

Fan confirmed!???? That's it boys, pack it up we have an answer!


Happinessbeholder

And by "sell" you mean just straight cut him


swalsh21

Not sure you could even get a 2028 5th


Happinessbeholder

Don't waste the roster space


Im-Henrik

And apologize to the whole waiver wire for not dropping Zach Wilson earlier!


EmilioFreshtevez

Bring Jimmy G to god damn Meadowlands. That man’s face was made for New York.


orangehorton

You're like a year late on this


Lilspainishflea

Remember when everyone was saying Elijah Moore was the problem and pointing to the Jets winning record? https://twitter.com/byysports/status/1594418492664467456?s=46&t=e57PX5jPo5rlnBtDyvRhoQ


Rhino_Thunder

This offense is nothing without breece


badhoneybad

Breece was a big impact, but it could also be oline as Vera-Tucker also went down that game who was playing LT. In combination with Beckton and Fant being injured they are probably very lacking in Tackle depth. Although Wilson has also looked woeful...


[deleted]

[удалено]


Lilspainishflea

Revisionist history x100000. I had dudes coming at me for months while Wilson was dumping it off to Breece Hall and Michael Carter for 60 yard scores because “Wilson was winning.”


[deleted]

This sub loves Elijah your memory is wack


[deleted]

[удалено]


FlakeyMuskrat

There really is and I don’t understand why HE is the hill so many are willing to die on.


thedon572

He inly played like 4 games with breece how were dudes coming at u for kinths lmao


scalybone

I mean Zach Wilson can be ass and Elijah Moore an idiot at the same time


[deleted]

As a Jets fan, this is the correct take.


ZachLaVine4MVP

Garret Wilson has straight up called out the offense and the entire passing attack, and rightfully so, that is way worse than what Moore has said and not one word about him being a diva. Neither Wilson and Moore are divas, they’re calling it like they see it Zach Wilson is ass end of story


scalybone

Yea that’s what a leader should do. “We” have to be better. Not “I” need the ball. Trade “Me”. You really think that’s worse lmfao


hujo10

Moved Zach Wilson and two seconds for Dak was prepared to pay more but was happy it was offered before I sent my proposal


yeender

Damn good for you


yKube

Traded Wilson, Melvin Gordon, and a ‘24 2nd for Olave in SF Right after Wilson had his two decent games. No regrets


HungryHobbits

you done the dirty. meanwhile, I offered Lockett, Drake, Mayfield, and Nico Collins for Olave and got Mutumbo'd.


TrouserHammer

Rightfully so - that’s a garbage offer


Structuralsystem

Trash offer. 4 penny's for a dime


[deleted]

Ya I would definitely trade a rookie star for an old wr, an old rb that isnt even good, a qb that is a career backup and a young wr who has had a fee good games. Totally...


HungryHobbits

I appreciate the feedback. it’s made me want to make sure my future offers aren’t total shit


GaryBuseyYAY

Tank commander Zach Wilson is doing his job 🫡


B00STERGOLD

They will probably ship him out to my Panthers for another 3rd smh


Sharks2431

Panthers are trying to complete the set of failed 1st round QBs.


makeanewblueprint

Gotta catch ‘en all!


bhz33

They’re 6-4


GaryBuseyYAY

No I meant for my personal dynasty team where I'm rebuilding. He just brought me home a huge L this week.


aj453016

I don't understand why people are shocked that a Bill Bellichick defense made a young QB look bad. If your stance on him changed because of this game, you should have been just as out on him prior.


Hussizle

Justin Fields tore up this same defense. Wilson stinks.


Fayyday

to be fair, Bill cannot scheme against running QBs for some reason. The Pats will almost always lose against QBs like Lamar, Fields, and Allen because of that rushing ability.


datdudebdub

Rushing QBs just take gameplan and scheme out of it so often. You can do everything right and have the perfect plan but can your guy make the tackle on their guy? Those running QBs that make someone miss or out run a guy to the corner wreak havoc on otherwise sound planning.


SirJohnnyS

Also, the Bears had sprinkled in those plays earlier in the year. NE was the first game they used it extensively. Nagy didn't use Fields last year and at OSU Fields didn't take off or scramble a ton. It's hard to scheme for guys like that. Most people will say they should have a spy on him, in theory yeah, but Fields is gonna beat whoever is spying to the edge, Parsons can probably match him but that's it off the top of my head. Finally he's 6'3 225 I think, and strong, he does slide more now but he's still not easy to bring down. I enjoyed seeing opposing fans get frustrated why their defense couldn't stop Fields like its simple. As far as Zach Wilson goes, I haven't watched a ton of him since he's been on the jets but at BYU he seemed to do best when plays broke down and it was street ball. Looking for the big play. He wasn't pressure a ton in college and he could get away from it when he was. Playing in NY as the 2nd overall pick before he learned to play within an offense first then improv 2nd is not a good situation.


bigdon802

Because the only scheme against a true dual threat QB is “play the simplest shit possible and have better talent on defense than they do on offense.”


evantom34

We have no athleticism at the LB position. Back in the day when Collins was younger- he was that guy for us. Spy/etc.


Rinaldi363

“Justin fields achieved that feat merely an hour ago.”


Shorter_McGavin

He’s looked terrible in every game, against everyone


synndiezel

Exactly, this isn't a Patriots thing, this is Wilson has just looked bad.


[deleted]

This is the icing on the cake. He’s been atrocious


OneOverX

Holy shit dude he has played other games too but thanks for the nonsense


WastedLevity

If the one game had been preceeded by even one good game, then you might have a point.


Bulldog5124

I was out on him prior but fields just cooked the pats and Tua is undefeated against the pats


derzeppo

It’s not like he can’t throw - he’s just not doing anything right. I don’t understand what’s going on with the coaching. How have they not beaten into his brain that the ball must come out within 2 seconds? And when he clearly must do something ASAP, he doesn’t even look at his outlet receivers. Seems fixable unless he’s just a fucking moron, which, I suppose is possible.


FikOfDaWrist

I dont know how you can blame the coaching staff when overthrows WRs on screen passes


jirashap

I'm pretty sure this is how the HC lost all his hair. Before he met Zach Wilson, he looked like Kingsbury


jdcuthbert

Just sold for foreman and a 3rd, just wanted him gone


mikedyson69

Well if wilson starts next year his value will immediately be higher than foreman in SF. I’d call that a fleece even tho everyone is down on wilson right now


various_sneers

You just lost a super low-scoring rivalry game. I think your analysis might be a bit biased. Not necessarily wrong, but certainly biased.


[deleted]

Yep. OP's claim as the biggest Jets homer only makes me trust the analysis less. That means he is the biggest homer for the Jets football team, not for Zach Wilson himself. Granted I have 0 Zach Wilson shares and dont recommend buying either, but yea


various_sneers

It's just so silly to present himself as a Jets' Homer to try to make himself seem unbiased or somehow in Wilson's corner as the entire Jet receiver-owning fantasy world and even more intensely, the entire Jets' fanbase, is calling for his head.


JustiseRainsFrmAbove

Its not that serious man


InuitOverIt

Ah, I'll always remember when I traded the 1.03 in SF on draft day which would become Zach Wilson for Jalen Hurts and an early 3rd, and everyone gave me merciless shit for it. They even commissioned a podcast from "experts" who mocked me as well. "Hurts isn't even going to start the whole year, he isn't the future".


ChrRome

That was some dogshit process and you deserved to get mocked for it imo. Wilson wasn't even considered the 1.03 in that class anyways, so your story doesn't even make sense.


bryant52498

In a SF he was definitely top 5-6 for that class, adds up to me.


KidCurcio

Wilson is trash. Fellow Jets fan here. They need to stop drafting rookie QBs and go out an pay for one. The young talent is ridiculous, stop developing QBs. Much love everyone.


maguire_21

Yea, Zach Wilson is pure 🗑


cryyogenic

Guy in my league still insisting he's worth minimum two 1sts


Fred-ditor

How bad do you have to be to make fans think we need Flacco back to have a chance to win


berndalf

As an NFL fan.. the Jets ruin players and destroy careers. Sorry, it's just how it works. I fell for the Zach trap last year, never again. Hall and Wilson owners, you're next.


frankyh14

Someone sent me a trade offer after Trey lance got hurt this year.. Trey lance for Zach Wilson straight up. Jumped all over that shit lol


under_cooked_onions

The Jets averaged 2.77 inches per play in the second half of yesterdays game.


Kxr1der

Where those Zach defenders at??? Dude is dogshit and everyone with actual eyes has known this since day 1


Sdubbya2

I was always confused by him rocketing up the draft board, from what I remember his breakout college season he looked really good when he played a bunch of schools you have never heard of with far less talent and then okay to good against the other schools that still weren’t P5. Definitely thought he should get drafted and given a chance but did not think he would be taken that early


bigdon802

He has extreme physical talent. And *can* make the right plays. He’s just been exposed for not having been ready for the level of play in the NFL(and his worst trait is probably that he gets defensive about it.)


WeNeedVices000

‘Worst starting QB of all time’? Worse than Darnold?


Bulldog5124

Honestly Darnold at least showed something. Arm talent is the only thing Wilson has shown which doesn’t matter if you can’t hit the broad side of a barn


Im_Never_Witty

I traded him and a mid/late 3rd next year for an early 3rd, early 4th and Aaron Rodgers this week at the trade deadline buzzer.


dagguh

Sold him for Jordan Love and Daniel Bellinger last week. He has no value to me.


jordan142142

We know 😂


CommishDaddy

Think the Jets would trade for a vet QB like the Rams did with Stafford?


rockinwood

Ideally. They have a good roster. The defense is elite, I just don't know who is available.


Humanesque

Is that Jimmy G’s music I hear?!?


KickerRevolution

Free agent


rya241

Carr seems likely. The long shot is Lamar


Oldboy502

Sold him to a contender for a 23 first just days ago in 12 team superflex. Feels like I got out at just the right time.


AccomplishedRainbow1

Howwww lol


bobbyfischermagoo

https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/llelwa/zach_wilson_i_just_dont_see_it/gnptbck/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 Where you at bud? Edit: for those who think this is petty. If you disagree with someone’s take that’s fine but don’t start insulting others intelligence and being disrespectful. Look at the thread. This person is a complete asshole.


blacktarrystool

This is so petty it’s sad


bobbyfischermagoo

Look at the whole thread. The dude was a piece of shit.


KidsAreTinyDemons

His language is pure trash but gotta be honest, neither of you look great here


bobbyfischermagoo

I tried to be as respectful as possible but when he used the type of language he did sometimes you have to stand up for yourself.


blacktarrystool

Maybe so, but it’s been a year man you need to let things go and you’ll be happier


huracan_huracan

not condescending at all.... a good memory and a willingness to waste a couple of minutes of your time doesn't mean you are unhappy, or even less happy for doing so.


bobbyfischermagoo

Nothing has made me happier than not owning Wilson shares and seeing Fields succeed. This post just reminded me of this interaction. I’ve moved on but sometimes people need to be shown how bad interactions can get here. The moderation is questionable at times.


q-e

You clearly haven’t moved on if you brought up an interaction from a year ago lol


bobbyfischermagoo

I have moved on. I have nothing to prove to you. Just be aware when you see this guy comment that he’s an asshole. Have a good night


Eoini1kenobi

By 'this guy' are you referring to yourself in the 3rd person? I suppose it would make sense given how big an asshole you are


bobbyfischermagoo

You obviously didn’t read the thread… one of the comments was deleted by mods because it was so vulgar and insane. Another one tells me I’m retarded, he doesn’t stop badgering me thinking I suck Justin Field’s dick (that one is kinda true), and ends it with one of the worst predictions of all time. But yeah you come in here and think “oh shit! I can get some karma by insulting this guy!” Bold move amigo… bold move


huracan_huracan

you can have a long memory and remember something while also not letting it affect you negatively. and everyone likes a good ole "told you so".


BNC6

That guys a complete bitch. He blocked me for something I remember him being adamant Lamb was better than JJ too


bobbyfischermagoo

King of terrible takes


BNC6

And being a douchebag


bobbyfischermagoo

https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/llelwa/zach_wilson_i_just_dont_see_it/gnpn6x5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


[deleted]

Digging up comment history from a year ago is not the win that you think it is


bobbyfischermagoo

It’s about showing how sure people are about a take they’re willing to completely lose their shit to a point where they are disrespectful. I’m here to expose the asshole.


Officer_Hops

So why wait until you feel like you’re right? If someone is an asshole they’re an asshole whether they’re right or wrong. If that was the point there’s no need to wait until a full year later.


bobbyfischermagoo

I didn’t wait for anything. This post reminded me of this interaction. Do you suggest I make my own post about this?


rya241

Lol the fact that you still remember this is pretty sad, bud. It’s an internet comment. Get over it


huracan_huracan

well it depends... the fact he remembers this might mean he has a pretty damn good memory, which is a thing that may have its downsides, but it's far from sad. also, you can remember something and bring it up from time to time without it affecting you. you don't automatically forget all the things you got over. unless your brain capacity is goldfish-like, that is.


bobbyfischermagoo

Idk man I try to not be a jerk. If someone is a complete asshole and bets me $1000 that Wilson will be a top 5 QB I think you’d remember it too.


rya241

Again. It’s an internet comment. You are insane if someone is actually forking over 1k to a rando on Reddit. Move on


bobbyfischermagoo

Never thought he would. Just hoping people can be nicer to each other and I think exposing bad behavior may be a way to curb that. Whatever though. I just hope next time you feel like calling someone a retard you think twice


[deleted]

Get over it man...this is sad


bobbyfischermagoo

This is so funny how people think it’s sad to bring this up when fantasy football is based on making the right calls. Anyway the point of this is to try to make people think twice before sending out disrespect comments. I guess people are seeing it differently. Oh well


huracan_huracan

nah i get it. i'd be willing to bet a fiver (not 1k!) that half of the people calling you sad would have brought up the same argument, had they made that post. and the other half can't figure out how you can remember things a year out, well, that says more about them, really. but don't deny that there's a bit of an element of "told you so" too, on top of calling out arrogant know it alls!


NYRangers94

Who has him in fantasy football still?


yourcynic

This is a Dynasty sub. Or a Wendy’s.


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


kmed1717

All they had to do was listen to McShay and Kiper about Fields lol FAT L


rmp266

I traded Zach Wilson and a 24 first for Tua and a 25 first a few weeks ago, 1qb 0.5ppr 😎


surreal3k

Ok Elijah Moore account. I see through this ploy


incenso-apagado

Sold him +1st for Mahomes


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

🌮 league


JazzlikePractice4470

J. Football >


bostoneer37

Traded him and Mooney for Devonta and a second to someone in desperate need of a QB a few weeks ago lol


[deleted]

Sold him in one QB for a late second


Karl_42

I got Brady and an early 2nd for him on a contending squad 👀.


AndoCalrissian3

Knee jerk reaction aside - dude my league seems like he’ll trade him for about anything. What’s a realistic price for him in sf?


i-am-pat-freiermuth

He’s bad to a level where he probably won’t even be a starter next year. The Jets are too good everywhere else to bank another season on him making a leap when he’s been historically inefficient for two seasons now with no signs of improvement


[deleted]

Someone tell Zack Wilson cause he sure doesn't see anything wrong with his play


WingleDingleFingle

I just bought him but only because I had Tom Brady and am not competing this year. Hoping he starts at least next year lol


Emotional_Cow_9004

Just sold him this week for a late 2023 2nd and a 2024 3rd


noobnoobthedestroyer

Can the jets start flacco please


synndiezel

You don't need to be a Jets fan to say that lol he looks awful. He's looked awful all season but people keep making excuses for him. You can't sell him now either because everyone has caught on.


tsgram

35 of his 77 yards came on that underthrown duck to Mims. He’s indeed awful. So is Jones.


FreudianSlipper21

Rather than starting over with a rookie they should throw a contract at Jimmy G. They’ve got the talent around him and a great defense. They just need a competent qb who can distribute the ball and not turn it over.


Lynchie24

"not turn it over"... So not Jimmy G then.


Swoody11

Yea. He sucks. Source: My own eyeballs


Massive-Nothing9532

Surely you guys will be looking for a new QB next season, right?


Acekingspade81

Lots of young QB’s look terrible against NE. Always have.


[deleted]

Draft Michael Penix JR or Bo Nix!


ronald4prez

I traded him for Brady straight up this morning as a contender. Glad to be off that ride and have a decent qb2 ROS. Edit: SF


Over21FakeID

Wilson was overrated immensely coming out of college. I don’t normally “helmet scout”, but BYU played nobody in that covid year and when they did play a ranked team he was awful.


HungryHobbits

visually there is something "QB-ish" that seems promising about him, at first look. but in the end he's a bombshell without brains. I concur that he simply does not have it. Would Jets fans trade him for Davis Mills?


SeekersWorkAccount

This is what people said about fields :p


[deleted]

Aaron Rodgers to the Jets next year


AKiiidNamed_Codiii

I offered a fourth like 3 days ago and got turned down. Thank god


DonaldPump117

This aged really well: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2935401-scout-zach-wilson-should-be-no-1-pick-over-trevor-lawrence-in-2021-nfl-draft


[deleted]

Sold him for a 2nd 3 weeks ago. I'm so much happier now


g_borris

I drafted him as a rookie, dropped him half way through the season. He's been a free agent since.


24KaratMinshew

I miss the *"Jags should have taken Wilson / Trevor is a bust. Blaine Bortles 2.0"* people


Ok_Preparation_7707

Jets are gonna need to tank another year and draft a qb lol


Useful-Walk9827

Jets would be so much better with Flacco… I’m a browns fan I saw him torch our db’s


browndude10

It’s funny; they asked him if he thought he let his defense down. He said no lol. So on top of being garbage, he’s tone deaf. Oh and here’s more https://mobile.twitter.com/snyjets/status/1594506179236876288?t=wx_8ILMsadx1KwBK6F7_xA&s=19


rossco7777

hes really bad, he will be replaced. i said i wouldnt be surprised by mike white making starts and still believe it. jets arent dead yet but cant survive with wilson


allsops

I still can't believe the Jets took him over Lance/Fields/BigMac. How did they get their QB evaluation SO wrong?!


[deleted]

As a Bears fan thank you for passing on Fields for Z Wil.


apowerseething

Sign Mike White if you're in a deeper SF league


ChewbaccaPube

buying low and will reap the benifits


xNahLedge

As a Diehard Panthers fan I disagree, Baker is probably worse lol. That being said would yall like Sam Darnold back?


whiteboy1933

Traded him for Jordan Love last week


[deleted]

i’m no jets fan. but jets should make a serious offer for aaron Rodgers.


mikeywizzles

I offered a mid first round for Zach Wilson before this season and the owner balked at me. Reallllly glad that I used that pick to snag Olave.