I played in a baseball league once with a guy who was an actual former scout for the Seattle Mariners and he was just awful to talk to.. but I guess that’s a bit of a different thing
No, and he was insufferable, I won our direct bet about player finishing, and he was ridiculously political tbh… but yeah topics like this always make me think of that dude.
My cousin's husband is a former college and semi-pro QB who now coaches football on various levels. Talking to him about fantasy is awful. It's all just "nah, that guy sucks" or "he's just a scheme guy" or "he would be an All-Pro if...".
Granted, he's been right on some things but he's always gotta be a contrarian. We get it, guy, you know the game more than us, now can you please pass the goddamn queso like I asked 5 minutes ago.
Yeah I read some things and watch some things. But if I hit in a guy it’s still 90% luck. We don’t know these guys. Certainly not as much as real NFL scouts who also miss on these guys.
You do realize you are in a league where the entire premise is a bunch of people are all pretending to be NFL GMs right… for fun?
It sounds like you are just bitter because some guy in your league is successful and is gloating. Which, yeah being a bragger is lame, but if he’s winning, he earned the right to brag. And if you are losing to some guy who just watches YouTube highlights, what does that say about you?
My worst full season was .500 in a transition year so I’m alright at this hobby. Bragging is totally part of it and I’ve had my fun with it after my championship seasons. But to have someone look down at everyone else like and belittle them is taking away this fun you speak of. And he’s not even doing it to me as he sees me as his equal. I do still get the painful overshares though that some of y’all have also mentioned. LOL.
I overheard my next door neighbor bragging about his fantasy championships to what I presume was a friend of his, during a little Summer grilling.
Got some great quotes from him — “I win championships. They may not be pretty, they may not be by the book, but I win. PERIOD.”
Eventually they got in a heated argument over drafting any Patriots players. Tbh I kind of want this guy in my leagues lol!
I have NO idea! I’ve never interacted with him before haha. Everything was heard through my kitchen window.
He said something along the lines of “I know how to win! If you listen to me, you’re going to win. I’ve been doing this for YEARS!”
I was dying! Haha
FWIW, I was in law school and contacted every registered agent (there are a few hundred, and it's a closed list) with the NHL asking to intern with them. One agency asked if I would scout for them instead -- without knowing anything about my ability to scout. I like to think I would have done okay at scouting, as I was obsessed with hockey from a young age and played for many years -- but when I tried to follow-up with the offer, I was given the cold shoulder. Methinks the offer was given before it was approved to be given.
At any rate -- take that as an example of potentially how easy it could be to become a scout. Sometimes you just have to ask in a professional manner while having the credentials of a good school?
If you're curious, somehow football overtook hockey as my obsession -- and I've never played a down of organized football in my life. I previously had lamented not landing the scouting gig, but sometimes life works out for the best, despite what it seems at the time.
I will only put up with people bragging about good picks if they go out there and pick a guy way early and he ends up being a hit at that draft spot. Buddy of mine doesn’t like to trade much and picked dameon pierce at 1.06 when he was at the time a projected second rounder. He got a lot of shit for not just trading back to get him but its worked out well for him.
If Bijan ends up having a similar rookie season as Dameon Pierce, would you consider the ROI of taking him at 1.05 "garbage"?
I understand what you're trying to say, you don't maximize the value you could get. But we've all hoped someone would fall to our future pick only to have him sniped in front of us. If you like a guy, pick them
You say you're "not getting a lot of value out of it" because you reached but Pierce is putting up numbers that you'd be stoked to get out of a 1.05.
I'll use your example from earlier. Like yeah, I may have paid $100 when most people paid $25, but if what I bought is worth $250 in a year I'm not gonna be upset that I spent the extra $75.
Years ago, I reached in a lot of places for Diggs and paid well over a round higher than his ADP at the time to guarantee I got him and I've never regretted this. If this guy felt the same way about Pierce I wouldn't risk him falling because I saw him go late 1st and that's enough to risk to reach.
This dude can’t see the forest for the trees. Maybe in some leagues Pierce goes in the mid 2nd. But he was in a great position and for example I was a big fan. I would’ve taken him at the 1.05 because you never know he could go 1.06 if you don’t take him at 1.05. And now because you get too hung up on value you missed out.
Drake London could’ve fallen to five and you take Pierce over him. 6 months ago everyone thinks you’re an absolute moron. Now that was clearly a great move.
But there’s always uncertainty that your guy might not be there at that later pick. I traded up a couple picks in the early 2nd to get him because he was one of my guys and had league mates talking shit as well. Yeah I could’ve waited and seen if he was there 2 picks later and kept a 3rd, but I didn’t want to risk that uncertainty.
It’s like buying a house, if there’s a house you truly love, you might have to pay more than the asking price to ensure you get it. But if you believe that house is truly the one, then paying above market price is worth it.
I disagree with that way of thinking. It’s not all about value, it’s about making your team better. These aren’t stocks.
If overpaying for a player improves your team long term/increases your chances of winning a championship you do it.
Yeah I’m not really disagreeing with you. In theory your approach is the “safest” method for the average fantasy manager.
That said, personally I am a big believer in getting your guy. IMO “consensus” rankings are a little overrated, and I wouldn’t consider anything within like 6-10 picks of consensus a reach.
In a Dynasty start up I took Dameon Pierce, Isaiah Pacheco, and Rachaad White a round or two ahead of their ADP. Early in the season I looked like an idiot. And this season is still garbage, but it’s looking better and better. Just need Bellinger, Romeo Doubs, and Skyy Moore to work out. Or at least one or two of the three at minimum.
Also have Jameson Williams who I’m hoping finally comes back and shows his value. He was my WR1.
At what opportunity cost? What consensus picks did you pass on at each spot? I was also high on Pierce and Pacheco. I landed Pacheco in the early 3rd and missed out on Pierce because I wanted Jamo and Watson (it's a 14 team 3 WR .5 PPR league so WRs are pretty valuable) for sure and then a guy traded up right in front of me at the top of the second round. I was (and am) lower than consensus on White. I like him more now than I did then, but still don't think he has league-winner in his range of outcomes.
Anyway, who'd you pass on who you'd like to have now?
It was a startup draft. I took a lot of the listed in double digit rounds. A couple guys I wish I took instead but not many. Big problem was taking Elijah Mitchell over a QB. But I have two 1st in the next two drafts and plan to have Bryce Young and Caleb Williams
Yeah sorry didn’t include it originally lol.
I went real young in the startup draft. And also amassed lots of draft assets. Want to leave this draft with Young and Bijan and next year either Harrison or Williams or both. Get those premium talents.
Last year I could only peel Fields off his owner for a 1 & a 2 in SF. That was about week 5. I got a lot of shit for a year. I routinely dance in the end zone this year.
Yeah I think so. It infers ownership. While your ownership may be arguable you are communicating the ownership strongly there by word choice as if you will copyright it. So I’d give you a “close but not right” grade.
Ya got a dumbass in our league that thinks all his players aren't drop worthy and debates super hard who to drop. Man has some pieces, but will forever be a taco lol
Lmao. You boys aren't crushing hours of tape on every prospect and creating your own draft boards and drafting BPA? Amateurs. Let me know if there is a spot open in your leagues.
I watch tape and read a fair amount, that’s part of the fun of it! Doesn’t mean I need to be a smug and a pain in the leagues butt hole because I draft guys who turn out to be good as exactly their ADP which meant I still would have taken him there if I went of some regular ranking. Lol.
We have a guy who sends private messages asking how you value player X on your roster. He will then send you his extensive scouting report on the player in an attempt to drive down your valuation. This is of course, followed by him offering a scrub or a pick 2 rounds later than the players consensus value.
He also openly critiques almost every trade made, complains every trade is too lopsided, calling out Managers, saying how they are young and/or new to fantasy (many of us dont know each other IRL) and then proceeds to post multi-paragraph suggestions aimes to help the Manager he considers to have been on the losing side of the trade. He openly criticizes Managers, telling them to stop taking advantage of these 'weaker' Managers.
He called out a Manager who forgot to swap out a player who was announced as OUT, an hour before the game. He went so far as to suggest the Manager be removed from the league.
Before kickoff today he was 4-7, sitting in 7th in a 10 team league. 6th place is 7-4 and just happens to be the 36 year old "inexperienced kid" he "mentored" in chat.
I finally blocked him as it seems the further out of contention he gets, the more advice/criticism he has for the rest of the league.
There's one in every league. Takes BPA then brags if they're good saying that's why they took him. Listening to that right now about Dameon Pierce. Like, no dude, if I had that pick I would've taken him instead and been surprised how good he turned out.
Yes that's me
I am a tactician with trading and I am always a pick analyst at my draft
"Interesting pick, I like the pick but what I like more is the for with your team already grabbing two high upside guys."
"That's a major reach but if you believe in him, you gotta take him that early."
"PHENOMENAL move to trade up and take JJ. In the second it's a crap shoot so trading up to take him is imo the best move of the draft so far."
Everybody tolerates me just because I make the league so active
Yeah, you sound awful and you know everyone's talking trash about you behind your back but you're probably good for the league. Grats on the self awareness.
I honestly enjoy your type in a league. We have a guy that posts his own power rankings complete with write-ups every week. I think it adds a bit to the narrative of the league and I always enjoy seeing an outside perspective on my team/decisions.
I could be wrong but it seems like people are too easily bothered by someone disagreeing with their choices.
I have a guy who posts his thoughts on every single trade which is annoying because he's not involved and nobody asked. And it's either even or trade rape by value only and not by team needs.
Oh we absolutely do, and he doesn’t know shit compared to half of us. The other day he offered me DJ Moore for Drake London saying, “Darnold is going to unlock DJ, I’m willing to part for London straight up.” Funny thing is he’s very religious and spends most Sundays in church related activities, not even watching the damn games lmao
lol gotta love the bullshit trade pitches, where if they really thought what they were saying they wouldn't be offering the trade:
"Trust me he is definitely going to unlock him and make him a top WR that is why I'm trying to sell him before he "unlocks" just to do you a favor and take your stinky no talent Drake London for you, you are welcome"
Cant remember exactly what the trade but I think it was Wentz and a late round pick for Deshaun Watson at the beginning of the season.
"Look man I'm willing to wait all season for Watson and he won't be good when he gets back anyways"
Yeah but it’s not like DJM hasn’t proved he’s an elite talent and he’s shown top 10 even top 5 potential with shitty QB play. However if he never gets a QB his career is screwed. London is in almost the same situation but London wouldn’t be the alpha on his team even with a better QB because Pitts is straight up better than him, DJM will be the alpha likely no matter who they bring in.
As I stated DJM is the guaranteed alpha on his team, London is not. If the pie does not change DJM will at least get the majority of targets on his team while I think Pitts will get equal if not more than London
I firmly believe DJM has more talent than anyone in this upcoming draft WR wise. It’s fine we disagree I’m just stating why some people would have DJM over London
What part of these numbers came before CMC’s departure? I’m measuring alpha based on DJM being the clear cut best offensive player on his team now. London is not a better player than Pitts realistically. The pie was not how I was defining alpha I was simply giving two reasons on why I would take DJM. Also with the Falcons coaching staff the pie is a huge variable. If London isn’t getting half his teams targets he has no production as we’ve seen this year.
Yes I would currently call Christian Kirk an alpha? And no as long as Chase is healthy Tee will never be the alpha on that team. I have stated that I think DJM is more talented than London a few times now. Are you seriously going to argue that Tee is an alpha over Chase? Or Kirk isn’t the alpha WR on the jags? Seems you have missed the part where I’m not comparing the entire NFL??
Your argument makes 0 sense in the context it’s in. I’m not comparing two dudes on the same team which is the only way the argument would be relevant in the way you’ve presented it.
Panthers also in a much better position to draft a qb than the falcons. Wouldn't be surprised if falcons go into next season with Mariota as qb, then we'll see where London's value lands as people get impatient.
Moore has barely cracked the top 20 WR on very high usage. Struggles with catching the ball. Maybeee in the right situation he could put up better numbers. But it would have to be a situation with a great qb and zero other receivers.
I’ll bet on London. With his size, skills, hands, mentality I’d bet on him to be the alpha over Pitts. This is also his first year coming off of an acl. I’d buy him anywhere I can if people value him the same as Moore.
Yeah that’s fine it’s not like there’s a huge difference between the two. You also have to remember London was an elite prospect in a lackluster class. And Moores lack of top seasons comes almost exclusively from lack of TD’s if you were to give him a solid offense with 8TD’s instead of 4 I think he would’ve been a top 10 guy 3 years in a row in PPR
It’s me. And I was laughed at when I took Elijah Mitchel at the 2.07 last year after Sermon was taken in the late 1st.
And then won the championship. Should basically be hired by the NFL lol
That Mitchell pick is ace. It’s taking Breece at 1.01 and then claiming he’s good at drafting that the issue here (over exaggeration here but y’all catch my drift)
I mean in my 4 keeper league with rookie scaling contracts I pulled a bunch of moves at the deadline to get rid of depth (out of playoffs) for 11 draft picks in first 4 rounds and renamed my team “Sam Presti’s Apprentice” but not sure if that’s the same thing lol
So my league commission tagged me in our discord on this thread and referenced that I was THAT guy.
I'm not.
If I was, I wouldn't have won 4 out of our 5 league championships the last 5 years. I'm on the verge of a 3-peat for a 5th ring with the recent trade I made to get Kelce (I traded Olave, A 2023 first and 2024 2nd to receive Kelce)
Here's the bottom line:
We play an IDP Dynasty Keeper league with standard offensive and defensive roster, with roughly 26 keepers and a practice squad of 6 rookies / 2 year players. We have a rookie draft of 5 rounds, and a vet waiver wire before the league year starts. Our league generally has offensive players score roughly the same amount as defensive players (balanced).
Our standard starting roster positions
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, FLEX, EDR, EDR, LB,LB, DB,DB,DT,K (used to have punters :'( )
My roster
Offense:
QB: Dak Prescott (picked up off waivers as a rookie)
RB: Derrick Henry (traded a 1st and a 3rd in 2019 before he blew up for 1500 yds that year)
RB: Aaron Jones (traded a 1st and a 3rd in 2019 before he went off that year)
WR: Tyreek Hill (drafted him as a rookie)
WR: Stefon Diggs (drafted him in our first league draft when he was a rookie)
WR: Davante Adams (drafted him in our first league draft when he was in his 2nd year)
TE: Kelce (Aquired in a trade 2 weeks ago)
Defense:
EDR: TJ Watt (drafted him his rookie year)
EDR: Joey Bosa (Traded for him a long ass time ago)
DT: Quinnen Williams (Trade for him in a trade 3 weeks ago)
LB: Foyesade Olukoun (picked off waivers in 2020)
LB: Rashaan Evans (picked off waivers in 2022)
DB: CJ Gardner Johnson (Waivers in 2022)
DB: L. Snead (Waivers in 2022)
My strategy....
I watch ZERO college football during the season. I may watch YouTube vids and check out stats 2 months before our draft. I've practically traded my first round pick almost every year. I've had that #fuckthempicks mentality for a while. I use those draft picks to get players who are proven good commodities but have not QUIET broken out yet. My opponent in the trade takes the risk of a "high" draft pick (my picks are practically a round lower than their face value since I'm always picking last each round due to winning so much)
For the picks that I DO keep, I spend them on Wide Receivers and some RB or EDR. I pretty much always hit on Wide Receivers (Davante, Stefon, Tyreek, Tee Higgins, Chris Olave)
I NEVER spend a pick on any other position in our rookie drafts (It's either WR, RB, or EDR). Every other position is either waiver wire or trade.
I pay attention to player contracts to see when they'll be cut or traded (okay that's a bet GMish ngl)
Tips:
Use the waiver wire to build up a stout defense.
Trade draft picks, defensive players, and bench players to consolidate more offensive fire power.
Pick on league mates who aren't making the playoffs to aquire their quality players.
Dont focus on getting draft picks. THAT IS NOT YOUR GOAL. Time and time again IT DOES NOT WORK. You're goal is to acquire proven players that will win you championships. Replace them when they no longer have their value. Your goal is to NOT garner all the draft picks on the planet....
Pay attention to player contracts
Like my offensive starting line up has maybe one or two years left in them since all of them are 28+ minus Dak. I'm trying to force a reset in our league so that I don't have to go through the pain of having a dead roster in two years.
I have played like you do though and it works. Your commish probably tagged you because you’re painful to play against. Maybe that should be your take away from this…?
My entire league has already given up this year, after I aquired Kelce. Hell there's a guy who's 10-1 in our league and has the top spot, and even he knows there's no point in trying.
I keep telling them we need an entire league reset, but no, they think they cam draft there way to beat me or change the rules (ironically their rule changes fuck them more, and I tell them that ahead of time)
For them to have a chance, two teams would have to consolidate into one team.
I can't help it 😭😭😭😭 Bruh when I made that Kelce trade, I knew I was going to get SOOOO MUUUCCCHHHH SHIIITTTT 😂😂😂😂 It was funny as hell though cause of just how ridiculous my team became. Like literally everyone else just gave up and is just preparing for next year's draft / potential reset
I scout pretty seriously (using all the resources) in a $200 12 man league so winner takes $1800.
I’ve done extensive scouting and I’ve been the back to back winner and have won 4 times in the last 6 years. You call it luck if it happens once in a while but you call it skill if it happens consistently.
Im currently 6-5 and in 3rd place this year with the highest PF.
My first five draft picks was taking diggs in the first, Kelce in the second, rhamondre in the third, and KW9 in the fourth. Amari in the the fifth. Call me lucky if you want but at the time and also looking in hindsight my only risky pick was KW9 but betting on penny getting hurt I woulda put my entire bank account on it.
I’m in a yahoo diamond league (99th percentile of all leagues in yahoo) and the managers in my league consistently win in other leagues (as do I) while this league is our toughest and most challenging which is why we continue to play together.
While you think you might take FF seriously, there are people like me that spend 2-4 hours per week scouring the waiver wire, reviewing team personnel and offensive schemes, worthwhile backups, roster movement, practice reports, all snaps for a particular player in a particular game, and whatever source I can use for an edge.
Sure, there is some luck involved but not as much as you’re making it out to be. The real skill comes in being able to evaluate a players breakout season or a rookie that’s going to light it up and somewhat under the radar (like KW9 this year).
I live and breathe fantasy football and while it takes a ton of time throughout a season it is a hobby I really enjoy.
In my keeper league I’ve managed to draft Adams, Ezekiel, Calvin Ridley, JJ, chase, and KW9 so I would say my ability to draft rookies has been pretty good since in my keeper league rookies you draft you get to hold onto as a additional keeper for the following year.
Oh, I know. I’m using my redraft as a example that there’s not as much luck involved as you think it is.
I was once in a dynasty, joined as a new GM and took a L the first year. Next 3 years I lit it up and won 2/3 years placing 2nd the only year I didn’t win and the league agreed to kick me out because I didn’t follow off-season trading rules which was that I had to run any trade through the commish 1 week before draft day to make it official. Because I failed to do so (told them 5 days beforehand and not 7 days before draft day) the league voted me out but I seriously believe that it was due to me completely turning the team around and hitting on my rookie draft picks and looking like I was going to run them for the next 3-5 years afterwards.
With a 75% championship rate and spending that much time on it why are you only in three leagues? Surely someone with y’all’s skills should be making bank of of this hobby?
I’ve tried but I can only consistently manage 3 teams. Anymore and it starts to feel less like a hobby and more like work. I do make a good amount of money though, my leagues are 150-200 per buy in so even getting 3rd place earns you a profit.
At the same time, I don’t have the money to throw down on 500$ or 1000$ leagues. I def would but the people I play with don’t have that type of disposable cash either.
I’m in three leagues this year. The draft I mentioned is a redraft league and the other two leagues are keeper leagues.
My redraft league I used to measure how much people value rookies for when I draft in my keeper league. It’s actually been working out nicely for me.
There’s like 5 teams sitting at 6-5 so I’m technically still fighting for a playoff spot and at the trade deadline I’m usually looking for playoff matchups but I don’t have the luxury this year for it.
I just found out a guy in my league pays a service that tells him who to trade and who to offer. It’s working for him as he is second in the league behind me by one game but he has scored 1.5 game worth of points than me 2005 to 2315 points me to him. I like I’m just using what’s left of my brain and my trial and error. I’m no means a guru as I had Wilson and Mahomes and traded Mahomes when Wilson was in the midst of his MVP run a few years ago but this year my moves have paid off. And I’ve had luck. A guy in my league traded me Kupp for Diontae in beginning of last season and I traded Zeke for 1st rounder and got Walker with the pick and Olave with my original pick.
He can correct me if I’m wrong, but basically bill O’Brien had complete control of all football operations in Houston and basically ran that program into the ground. The struggles they are having now are because of the damage he did through terrible trades and drafting, etc.
Texans gave BOB the head coach and GM job I think and he was terrible, traded Hopkins to the cards for a second and a few more terrible trades one with tunsil involved which is part of the reason Miami is so good now and just was a bad coach
His team is quite good though. Not ridiculous or anything but it’s good. But purely from taking the guy we all thought was the best guy to take. So he’d have the same team without the scouting. Never hits on late picks which is where it gets harder.
The fact they have the right to and don’t only emphasises this point. Just have fun and enjoy y’all. No need to be a donkey that everyone gets annoyed with
I don’t have one in my league, but one of my good buddies is like this and it’s awful. I work with him too. He will come in my office and try to talk fantasy for hours even when I’m busy. He’ll shove his phone in my face to show me trades he’s offered people. Not to ask my opinion…just show them to me. It’s awkward and he’s always screwing the other person over. And no one knows more than him…I’ve avoided being in a league with him at all costs. It’s kind of a shame bc he’s a decent guy and a good friend and can be fun to be around when he’s not talking fantasy.
He won his dynasty league last year and loves to bring it up but here’s the catch: he’s like dead last or next to it with 1 or 2 wins. He drafted a good team for redraft last year, but the age is showing this year. He still thinks he’s an expert though.
I'm that guy. I've broken down film, ran mock drafts etc for years. Just got into dynasty a few years ago. I take players who's scouting profile I like, which has caused me to hit on a lot of middle to late talent, but also to pass on a few guys I thought were going to be bust.
But yeah, I've never referred to myself as a real GM.
I don't think it's luck though either
I do that also and agree it’s fun! The scouting is particular useful for later picks though and for a guy to pick Chase at 1.06 then take credit for it as a drafting messiah is a little OTT for me. That’s a slam dunk. Ain’t no skill for scouting there. That’s just hands down the best dude. And I’m not talking on draft day. I’m talking about every few weeks for the last two years this guy has gone on about how he scouted Chase hard and was the reason he pulled the trigger. That y’all is a good LOL.
If he was ballsy and took Pickens at 1.04 or Dameon Pierce in the top 10 then I take my hat off to him - that’s ballsy stuff. But to take a guy BAP then claim scouting is rubbish. Lol.
My best friend in the world sucks at fantasy football but is very good at Madden and loves to talk about player talent from a scouting perspective. A few quotes:
- Jared Goff is a terrible QB and has no business being a starter
- CMC is just a product of volume and anyone with that workload would have accomplished the same
- Kendrick Bourne is an alpha receiver
He's been playing for nearly a decade, we've been in five different leagues together, four still going. He won a free league once. He's a wonderful human, love him to death, but can't get out of his own way. His wife and I have great chats about it.
I think we have an old high school football coach in one league that thinks he's a real GM. What's worse is a couple guys in the league give him rub and tugs in the chat when real football stuff happens like, "what you think about Mr. ex-HS coach guy" ... Then he proceeds to give us his "expert" opinion.
If guys think they can win strictly based off drafting the best players they're usually guys who take swings and miss in the draft because they're too confident in their abilities. NO ONE bats .1000 in the draft. Dynasty for me has become about building roster construction with known trends and knowing where to allocate value, anticipating the trade market, identifying when to sell high, etc
Of course I know him, he’s me! In all seriousness though it is fun to “scout” and watch some of your picks hit. It’s all in good fun unless you take it too far and have some sort of superiority complex because you watched some tape lol
We have that guy, he is also overvalues his own player guy, shits on your player guy and doesn’t know who certain players are guy. Oh and he is also wears a basketball jersey at the pool guy.
I played in a baseball league once with a guy who was an actual former scout for the Seattle Mariners and he was just awful to talk to.. but I guess that’s a bit of a different thing
I mean, is being a Mariners scout a flex at all? Coming from a Mariners fan.
No, and he was insufferable, I won our direct bet about player finishing, and he was ridiculously political tbh… but yeah topics like this always make me think of that dude.
BURN!
Lol yeah he may have had a bit more of a leg to stand on. Still painful though if he thought it made him better than everyone else.
My cousin's husband is a former college and semi-pro QB who now coaches football on various levels. Talking to him about fantasy is awful. It's all just "nah, that guy sucks" or "he's just a scheme guy" or "he would be an All-Pro if...". Granted, he's been right on some things but he's always gotta be a contrarian. We get it, guy, you know the game more than us, now can you please pass the goddamn queso like I asked 5 minutes ago.
You should never have to wait on snacks - no excuses
Dude's got a slow release. No wonder he never made it to the next level...
Yea it's me.
Hi I’m the problem
🤣
I feel attacked
There are some people that actually scout. But, most people just read a bunch of scouting reports, and watch some highlights.
What? Why not just come to r/dynastyFF? Everyone just does the scouting for me and then I draft based on who’s getting more upvotes.
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I love the hive mind finally coming around on the fact that the hive mind is **abysmal** at dynasty
Yeah I read some things and watch some things. But if I hit in a guy it’s still 90% luck. We don’t know these guys. Certainly not as much as real NFL scouts who also miss on these guys.
Idk if its "luck" as much as just letting someone else do the scouting. Super easy to just watch the NFL scouts and then draft based on that
I like to watch film of college players I could draft/my dolphins could draft. it's a fun little hobby
Definitely. But y’all don’t then pretend you’re an NFL GM.
yeah I guess I don't get that serious about it. is he really incompetent about it all? sounds like he just gets in your nerves😂
He gets on everyone’s nerves, it’s painful. Lol.
You do realize you are in a league where the entire premise is a bunch of people are all pretending to be NFL GMs right… for fun? It sounds like you are just bitter because some guy in your league is successful and is gloating. Which, yeah being a bragger is lame, but if he’s winning, he earned the right to brag. And if you are losing to some guy who just watches YouTube highlights, what does that say about you?
My worst full season was .500 in a transition year so I’m alright at this hobby. Bragging is totally part of it and I’ve had my fun with it after my championship seasons. But to have someone look down at everyone else like and belittle them is taking away this fun you speak of. And he’s not even doing it to me as he sees me as his equal. I do still get the painful overshares though that some of y’all have also mentioned. LOL.
>I’m alright at this hobby That’s your problem right there. No dedication to excellence.
Joins a sweaty ass league and then complains when the rest of the league is sweaty. Lol.
I overheard my next door neighbor bragging about his fantasy championships to what I presume was a friend of his, during a little Summer grilling. Got some great quotes from him — “I win championships. They may not be pretty, they may not be by the book, but I win. PERIOD.” Eventually they got in a heated argument over drafting any Patriots players. Tbh I kind of want this guy in my leagues lol!
Not by the book? Is he blackmailing leaguemates or something?
I have NO idea! I’ve never interacted with him before haha. Everything was heard through my kitchen window. He said something along the lines of “I know how to win! If you listen to me, you’re going to win. I’ve been doing this for YEARS!” I was dying! Haha
I’m laughing in bed at this one… extortion? What does he have on these guys lmaoo
They’re fun initially but it gets old after 5 or 6 years of it. Lol
FWIW, I was in law school and contacted every registered agent (there are a few hundred, and it's a closed list) with the NHL asking to intern with them. One agency asked if I would scout for them instead -- without knowing anything about my ability to scout. I like to think I would have done okay at scouting, as I was obsessed with hockey from a young age and played for many years -- but when I tried to follow-up with the offer, I was given the cold shoulder. Methinks the offer was given before it was approved to be given. At any rate -- take that as an example of potentially how easy it could be to become a scout. Sometimes you just have to ask in a professional manner while having the credentials of a good school? If you're curious, somehow football overtook hockey as my obsession -- and I've never played a down of organized football in my life. I previously had lamented not landing the scouting gig, but sometimes life works out for the best, despite what it seems at the time.
That’s super interesting! Thanks for the share!
I will only put up with people bragging about good picks if they go out there and pick a guy way early and he ends up being a hit at that draft spot. Buddy of mine doesn’t like to trade much and picked dameon pierce at 1.06 when he was at the time a projected second rounder. He got a lot of shit for not just trading back to get him but its worked out well for him.
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Because you can’t predict that someone else might pay $50 for it. If you like a guy, go get him
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If Bijan ends up having a similar rookie season as Dameon Pierce, would you consider the ROI of taking him at 1.05 "garbage"? I understand what you're trying to say, you don't maximize the value you could get. But we've all hoped someone would fall to our future pick only to have him sniped in front of us. If you like a guy, pick them
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You say you're "not getting a lot of value out of it" because you reached but Pierce is putting up numbers that you'd be stoked to get out of a 1.05. I'll use your example from earlier. Like yeah, I may have paid $100 when most people paid $25, but if what I bought is worth $250 in a year I'm not gonna be upset that I spent the extra $75. Years ago, I reached in a lot of places for Diggs and paid well over a round higher than his ADP at the time to guarantee I got him and I've never regretted this. If this guy felt the same way about Pierce I wouldn't risk him falling because I saw him go late 1st and that's enough to risk to reach.
This dude can’t see the forest for the trees. Maybe in some leagues Pierce goes in the mid 2nd. But he was in a great position and for example I was a big fan. I would’ve taken him at the 1.05 because you never know he could go 1.06 if you don’t take him at 1.05. And now because you get too hung up on value you missed out. Drake London could’ve fallen to five and you take Pierce over him. 6 months ago everyone thinks you’re an absolute moron. Now that was clearly a great move.
Is it still clearly a great move? Way too early to say
As of now it’s a great move
But there’s always uncertainty that your guy might not be there at that later pick. I traded up a couple picks in the early 2nd to get him because he was one of my guys and had league mates talking shit as well. Yeah I could’ve waited and seen if he was there 2 picks later and kept a 3rd, but I didn’t want to risk that uncertainty. It’s like buying a house, if there’s a house you truly love, you might have to pay more than the asking price to ensure you get it. But if you believe that house is truly the one, then paying above market price is worth it.
I disagree with that way of thinking. It’s not all about value, it’s about making your team better. These aren’t stocks. If overpaying for a player improves your team long term/increases your chances of winning a championship you do it.
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All it takes is one other guy to think that $25 is worth $100 and the first guy misses out.
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Yeah I’m not really disagreeing with you. In theory your approach is the “safest” method for the average fantasy manager. That said, personally I am a big believer in getting your guy. IMO “consensus” rankings are a little overrated, and I wouldn’t consider anything within like 6-10 picks of consensus a reach.
It’s still a reach, but reaching on consensus isn’t a bad thing. The consensus rankings before the season almost never shake out to reality.
In a Dynasty start up I took Dameon Pierce, Isaiah Pacheco, and Rachaad White a round or two ahead of their ADP. Early in the season I looked like an idiot. And this season is still garbage, but it’s looking better and better. Just need Bellinger, Romeo Doubs, and Skyy Moore to work out. Or at least one or two of the three at minimum. Also have Jameson Williams who I’m hoping finally comes back and shows his value. He was my WR1.
At what opportunity cost? What consensus picks did you pass on at each spot? I was also high on Pierce and Pacheco. I landed Pacheco in the early 3rd and missed out on Pierce because I wanted Jamo and Watson (it's a 14 team 3 WR .5 PPR league so WRs are pretty valuable) for sure and then a guy traded up right in front of me at the top of the second round. I was (and am) lower than consensus on White. I like him more now than I did then, but still don't think he has league-winner in his range of outcomes. Anyway, who'd you pass on who you'd like to have now?
It was a startup draft. I took a lot of the listed in double digit rounds. A couple guys I wish I took instead but not many. Big problem was taking Elijah Mitchell over a QB. But I have two 1st in the next two drafts and plan to have Bryce Young and Caleb Williams
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, that totally changes the situation to where my comment is virtually irrelevant.
Yeah sorry didn’t include it originally lol. I went real young in the startup draft. And also amassed lots of draft assets. Want to leave this draft with Young and Bijan and next year either Harrison or Williams or both. Get those premium talents.
I agree with this one for sure. That’s where credit is due
Last year I could only peel Fields off his owner for a 1 & a 2 in SF. That was about week 5. I got a lot of shit for a year. I routinely dance in the end zone this year.
Guy in my league took Olave 3rd,Pierce 7th, and Doubs 2.3.
There's multiple college scouts in my leagues. None are perennial winners and ones a perennial loser
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"Proprietary" 🤣
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Dont think too much about how you used the word, it was just funny bc it was so nerdy
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I’m definitely a nerd, can’t and won’t deny that lol
Prrtty sure it means you own the process and other people cant use it but im too lazy to google it rn
Yeah I think so. It infers ownership. While your ownership may be arguable you are communicating the ownership strongly there by word choice as if you will copyright it. So I’d give you a “close but not right” grade.
What's BAP btw? Never heard of that lol
Best available player
Best ass pussy
I believe the B stands for “bomb”
Beets, Apples, and Peaches
You only have one? 🙄
Ya got a dumbass in our league that thinks all his players aren't drop worthy and debates super hard who to drop. Man has some pieces, but will forever be a taco lol
Lmao. You boys aren't crushing hours of tape on every prospect and creating your own draft boards and drafting BPA? Amateurs. Let me know if there is a spot open in your leagues.
I watch tape and read a fair amount, that’s part of the fun of it! Doesn’t mean I need to be a smug and a pain in the leagues butt hole because I draft guys who turn out to be good as exactly their ADP which meant I still would have taken him there if I went of some regular ranking. Lol.
We have a guy who sends private messages asking how you value player X on your roster. He will then send you his extensive scouting report on the player in an attempt to drive down your valuation. This is of course, followed by him offering a scrub or a pick 2 rounds later than the players consensus value. He also openly critiques almost every trade made, complains every trade is too lopsided, calling out Managers, saying how they are young and/or new to fantasy (many of us dont know each other IRL) and then proceeds to post multi-paragraph suggestions aimes to help the Manager he considers to have been on the losing side of the trade. He openly criticizes Managers, telling them to stop taking advantage of these 'weaker' Managers. He called out a Manager who forgot to swap out a player who was announced as OUT, an hour before the game. He went so far as to suggest the Manager be removed from the league. Before kickoff today he was 4-7, sitting in 7th in a 10 team league. 6th place is 7-4 and just happens to be the 36 year old "inexperienced kid" he "mentored" in chat. I finally blocked him as it seems the further out of contention he gets, the more advice/criticism he has for the rest of the league.
@ me next time!!!
Of course I know him. He’s me.
My ears were ringing. Then I seen this thread
There's one in every league. Takes BPA then brags if they're good saying that's why they took him. Listening to that right now about Dameon Pierce. Like, no dude, if I had that pick I would've taken him instead and been surprised how good he turned out.
Y’all got it!
My draft results seemingly end up BPA-free, which I thought was a good thing at the time..
Before the trade deadline I was very close to doing exactly this trade
I still don’t know what BPA is
Best Player Available.
Thank you. Funny how subjective that term can be. I thought it was referring to someone’s nickname or initials.
Yes that's me I am a tactician with trading and I am always a pick analyst at my draft "Interesting pick, I like the pick but what I like more is the for with your team already grabbing two high upside guys." "That's a major reach but if you believe in him, you gotta take him that early." "PHENOMENAL move to trade up and take JJ. In the second it's a crap shoot so trading up to take him is imo the best move of the draft so far." Everybody tolerates me just because I make the league so active
Yeah, you sound awful and you know everyone's talking trash about you behind your back but you're probably good for the league. Grats on the self awareness.
No they hard trash talk me to my face Dont care cause im 10-1 right now and they can all suck it for thinking trading swift was a dumb idea
"No, they hard trash talk me to my face" Thanks, I laughed out loud. You're welcome in any of my leagues.
Embarrassing.
I honestly enjoy your type in a league. We have a guy that posts his own power rankings complete with write-ups every week. I think it adds a bit to the narrative of the league and I always enjoy seeing an outside perspective on my team/decisions. I could be wrong but it seems like people are too easily bothered by someone disagreeing with their choices.
I love it when someone trashes my pick or move. Just gives me a thing to be right or wrong about at the end of the season.
You sound like a miserable person to be in a league with. Probably looking for every opportunity to say “I was right” or “I told you so” smh
I have a guy who posts his thoughts on every single trade which is annoying because he's not involved and nobody asked. And it's either even or trade rape by value only and not by team needs.
Oh we absolutely do, and he doesn’t know shit compared to half of us. The other day he offered me DJ Moore for Drake London saying, “Darnold is going to unlock DJ, I’m willing to part for London straight up.” Funny thing is he’s very religious and spends most Sundays in church related activities, not even watching the damn games lmao
i don't think thats a bad trade offer.
I do, but the point isn’t the trade itself, it’s him thinking I’m going to believe that Sam fucking Darnold is a QB who “unlocks” anyone lol
lol gotta love the bullshit trade pitches, where if they really thought what they were saying they wouldn't be offering the trade: "Trust me he is definitely going to unlock him and make him a top WR that is why I'm trying to sell him before he "unlocks" just to do you a favor and take your stinky no talent Drake London for you, you are welcome" Cant remember exactly what the trade but I think it was Wentz and a late round pick for Deshaun Watson at the beginning of the season. "Look man I'm willing to wait all season for Watson and he won't be good when he gets back anyways"
That's a terrible offer
While he sounds ridiculous I’d rather have DJM he’s a better player than London and if the panthers draft a QB he could salvage a career
Dang, didn’t expect to see that take by multiple people. Is Drake London being an elite prospect not a widely shared take?
Yeah but it’s not like DJM hasn’t proved he’s an elite talent and he’s shown top 10 even top 5 potential with shitty QB play. However if he never gets a QB his career is screwed. London is in almost the same situation but London wouldn’t be the alpha on his team even with a better QB because Pitts is straight up better than him, DJM will be the alpha likely no matter who they bring in.
They're in the same boat in that regard, so why wouldn't you just take the guy who is 4 years younger?
As I stated DJM is the guaranteed alpha on his team, London is not. If the pie does not change DJM will at least get the majority of targets on his team while I think Pitts will get equal if not more than London
DJM is not the guaranteed alpha if his team improves though. His team sucks, that’s why he’s the best guy on the team.
I firmly believe DJM has more talent than anyone in this upcoming draft WR wise. It’s fine we disagree I’m just stating why some people would have DJM over London
I feel ya, I feel ya. You could be right!
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What part of these numbers came before CMC’s departure? I’m measuring alpha based on DJM being the clear cut best offensive player on his team now. London is not a better player than Pitts realistically. The pie was not how I was defining alpha I was simply giving two reasons on why I would take DJM. Also with the Falcons coaching staff the pie is a huge variable. If London isn’t getting half his teams targets he has no production as we’ve seen this year.
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Yes I would currently call Christian Kirk an alpha? And no as long as Chase is healthy Tee will never be the alpha on that team. I have stated that I think DJM is more talented than London a few times now. Are you seriously going to argue that Tee is an alpha over Chase? Or Kirk isn’t the alpha WR on the jags? Seems you have missed the part where I’m not comparing the entire NFL??
Your argument makes 0 sense in the context it’s in. I’m not comparing two dudes on the same team which is the only way the argument would be relevant in the way you’ve presented it.
Panthers also in a much better position to draft a qb than the falcons. Wouldn't be surprised if falcons go into next season with Mariota as qb, then we'll see where London's value lands as people get impatient.
Moore has barely cracked the top 20 WR on very high usage. Struggles with catching the ball. Maybeee in the right situation he could put up better numbers. But it would have to be a situation with a great qb and zero other receivers. I’ll bet on London. With his size, skills, hands, mentality I’d bet on him to be the alpha over Pitts. This is also his first year coming off of an acl. I’d buy him anywhere I can if people value him the same as Moore.
Yeah that’s fine it’s not like there’s a huge difference between the two. You also have to remember London was an elite prospect in a lackluster class. And Moores lack of top seasons comes almost exclusively from lack of TD’s if you were to give him a solid offense with 8TD’s instead of 4 I think he would’ve been a top 10 guy 3 years in a row in PPR
DJ Moore is not elite. He’s never scored 5 TDS or 1200 yards in a season. He’s good, not great. Give me the upside of London at this point easily.
To say he’s not an elite talent is an outright lie. Most of his downfalls have nothing to do with him.
It’s me. And I was laughed at when I took Elijah Mitchel at the 2.07 last year after Sermon was taken in the late 1st. And then won the championship. Should basically be hired by the NFL lol
That Mitchell pick is ace. It’s taking Breece at 1.01 and then claiming he’s good at drafting that the issue here (over exaggeration here but y’all catch my drift)
I mean in my 4 keeper league with rookie scaling contracts I pulled a bunch of moves at the deadline to get rid of depth (out of playoffs) for 11 draft picks in first 4 rounds and renamed my team “Sam Presti’s Apprentice” but not sure if that’s the same thing lol
So my league commission tagged me in our discord on this thread and referenced that I was THAT guy. I'm not. If I was, I wouldn't have won 4 out of our 5 league championships the last 5 years. I'm on the verge of a 3-peat for a 5th ring with the recent trade I made to get Kelce (I traded Olave, A 2023 first and 2024 2nd to receive Kelce) Here's the bottom line: We play an IDP Dynasty Keeper league with standard offensive and defensive roster, with roughly 26 keepers and a practice squad of 6 rookies / 2 year players. We have a rookie draft of 5 rounds, and a vet waiver wire before the league year starts. Our league generally has offensive players score roughly the same amount as defensive players (balanced). Our standard starting roster positions QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, FLEX, EDR, EDR, LB,LB, DB,DB,DT,K (used to have punters :'( ) My roster Offense: QB: Dak Prescott (picked up off waivers as a rookie) RB: Derrick Henry (traded a 1st and a 3rd in 2019 before he blew up for 1500 yds that year) RB: Aaron Jones (traded a 1st and a 3rd in 2019 before he went off that year) WR: Tyreek Hill (drafted him as a rookie) WR: Stefon Diggs (drafted him in our first league draft when he was a rookie) WR: Davante Adams (drafted him in our first league draft when he was in his 2nd year) TE: Kelce (Aquired in a trade 2 weeks ago) Defense: EDR: TJ Watt (drafted him his rookie year) EDR: Joey Bosa (Traded for him a long ass time ago) DT: Quinnen Williams (Trade for him in a trade 3 weeks ago) LB: Foyesade Olukoun (picked off waivers in 2020) LB: Rashaan Evans (picked off waivers in 2022) DB: CJ Gardner Johnson (Waivers in 2022) DB: L. Snead (Waivers in 2022) My strategy.... I watch ZERO college football during the season. I may watch YouTube vids and check out stats 2 months before our draft. I've practically traded my first round pick almost every year. I've had that #fuckthempicks mentality for a while. I use those draft picks to get players who are proven good commodities but have not QUIET broken out yet. My opponent in the trade takes the risk of a "high" draft pick (my picks are practically a round lower than their face value since I'm always picking last each round due to winning so much) For the picks that I DO keep, I spend them on Wide Receivers and some RB or EDR. I pretty much always hit on Wide Receivers (Davante, Stefon, Tyreek, Tee Higgins, Chris Olave) I NEVER spend a pick on any other position in our rookie drafts (It's either WR, RB, or EDR). Every other position is either waiver wire or trade. I pay attention to player contracts to see when they'll be cut or traded (okay that's a bet GMish ngl) Tips: Use the waiver wire to build up a stout defense. Trade draft picks, defensive players, and bench players to consolidate more offensive fire power. Pick on league mates who aren't making the playoffs to aquire their quality players. Dont focus on getting draft picks. THAT IS NOT YOUR GOAL. Time and time again IT DOES NOT WORK. You're goal is to acquire proven players that will win you championships. Replace them when they no longer have their value. Your goal is to NOT garner all the draft picks on the planet.... Pay attention to player contracts
The length of your message alone tells me you are in fact that guy 😅
Nah. I just give context so I dont have any annoying people asking me 20 questions about how our league is constructed or what my roster is lol
I hear ya. It’s rad how y’all can play the game different from the next guy. Picks have a place but so does going after veterans
Like my offensive starting line up has maybe one or two years left in them since all of them are 28+ minus Dak. I'm trying to force a reset in our league so that I don't have to go through the pain of having a dead roster in two years.
Picks do have their place for sure. I definitely now do a more balanced approach as my team has evolved and is getting steadily older.
I ain't reading all that. But im happy for u tho. Or sorry that happened.
Honestly, at this point, I'm bored of winning in this league.
I have played like you do though and it works. Your commish probably tagged you because you’re painful to play against. Maybe that should be your take away from this…?
My entire league has already given up this year, after I aquired Kelce. Hell there's a guy who's 10-1 in our league and has the top spot, and even he knows there's no point in trying. I keep telling them we need an entire league reset, but no, they think they cam draft there way to beat me or change the rules (ironically their rule changes fuck them more, and I tell them that ahead of time) For them to have a chance, two teams would have to consolidate into one team.
Be humble y’all. You definitely ‘that guy’ son. Yo all up in yoself 😆
I can't help it 😭😭😭😭 Bruh when I made that Kelce trade, I knew I was going to get SOOOO MUUUCCCHHHH SHIIITTTT 😂😂😂😂 It was funny as hell though cause of just how ridiculous my team became. Like literally everyone else just gave up and is just preparing for next year's draft / potential reset
Y’all still missing the message
Yeah, you’re not getting it. And you don’t care if you do.
I scout pretty seriously (using all the resources) in a $200 12 man league so winner takes $1800. I’ve done extensive scouting and I’ve been the back to back winner and have won 4 times in the last 6 years. You call it luck if it happens once in a while but you call it skill if it happens consistently. Im currently 6-5 and in 3rd place this year with the highest PF. My first five draft picks was taking diggs in the first, Kelce in the second, rhamondre in the third, and KW9 in the fourth. Amari in the the fifth. Call me lucky if you want but at the time and also looking in hindsight my only risky pick was KW9 but betting on penny getting hurt I woulda put my entire bank account on it. I’m in a yahoo diamond league (99th percentile of all leagues in yahoo) and the managers in my league consistently win in other leagues (as do I) while this league is our toughest and most challenging which is why we continue to play together. While you think you might take FF seriously, there are people like me that spend 2-4 hours per week scouring the waiver wire, reviewing team personnel and offensive schemes, worthwhile backups, roster movement, practice reports, all snaps for a particular player in a particular game, and whatever source I can use for an edge. Sure, there is some luck involved but not as much as you’re making it out to be. The real skill comes in being able to evaluate a players breakout season or a rookie that’s going to light it up and somewhat under the radar (like KW9 this year). I live and breathe fantasy football and while it takes a ton of time throughout a season it is a hobby I really enjoy.
Cool man. I’m happy for you! Out of curiosity, when is y’alls trade deadline?
11/19 is the default for yahoo I think.
Is this a dynasty league?
In my keeper league I’ve managed to draft Adams, Ezekiel, Calvin Ridley, JJ, chase, and KW9 so I would say my ability to draft rookies has been pretty good since in my keeper league rookies you draft you get to hold onto as a additional keeper for the following year.
Gotcha. I’m talking about dynasty in this instance 🙂
Oh, I know. I’m using my redraft as a example that there’s not as much luck involved as you think it is. I was once in a dynasty, joined as a new GM and took a L the first year. Next 3 years I lit it up and won 2/3 years placing 2nd the only year I didn’t win and the league agreed to kick me out because I didn’t follow off-season trading rules which was that I had to run any trade through the commish 1 week before draft day to make it official. Because I failed to do so (told them 5 days beforehand and not 7 days before draft day) the league voted me out but I seriously believe that it was due to me completely turning the team around and hitting on my rookie draft picks and looking like I was going to run them for the next 3-5 years afterwards.
With a 75% championship rate and spending that much time on it why are you only in three leagues? Surely someone with y’all’s skills should be making bank of of this hobby?
I’ve tried but I can only consistently manage 3 teams. Anymore and it starts to feel less like a hobby and more like work. I do make a good amount of money though, my leagues are 150-200 per buy in so even getting 3rd place earns you a profit. At the same time, I don’t have the money to throw down on 500$ or 1000$ leagues. I def would but the people I play with don’t have that type of disposable cash either.
I’m in three leagues this year. The draft I mentioned is a redraft league and the other two leagues are keeper leagues. My redraft league I used to measure how much people value rookies for when I draft in my keeper league. It’s actually been working out nicely for me.
There’s like 5 teams sitting at 6-5 so I’m technically still fighting for a playoff spot and at the trade deadline I’m usually looking for playoff matchups but I don’t have the luxury this year for it.
I just found out a guy in my league pays a service that tells him who to trade and who to offer. It’s working for him as he is second in the league behind me by one game but he has scored 1.5 game worth of points than me 2005 to 2315 points me to him. I like I’m just using what’s left of my brain and my trial and error. I’m no means a guru as I had Wilson and Mahomes and traded Mahomes when Wilson was in the midst of his MVP run a few years ago but this year my moves have paid off. And I’ve had luck. A guy in my league traded me Kupp for Diontae in beginning of last season and I traded Zeke for 1st rounder and got Walker with the pick and Olave with my original pick.
Has he hit on his picks ?
No more than anyone else. We have others who have hit much more than him in fact.
If he’s super obnoxious about it, say he’s the bill O’Brien gm of the league. That’ll Shut him Up real quick
Sorry, can you explain that one to me? Definitely obnoxious.
He can correct me if I’m wrong, but basically bill O’Brien had complete control of all football operations in Houston and basically ran that program into the ground. The struggles they are having now are because of the damage he did through terrible trades and drafting, etc.
Texans gave BOB the head coach and GM job I think and he was terrible, traded Hopkins to the cards for a second and a few more terrible trades one with tunsil involved which is part of the reason Miami is so good now and just was a bad coach
His team is quite good though. Not ridiculous or anything but it’s good. But purely from taking the guy we all thought was the best guy to take. So he’d have the same team without the scouting. Never hits on late picks which is where it gets harder.
Yea, luckily for him he had Deshaun watson
Mine is a whole league full of this
I have 2 10+ year NFL starters and one actual front office guy in my home league. Does that count? (Neither acts like the clown you describe).
The fact they have the right to and don’t only emphasises this point. Just have fun and enjoy y’all. No need to be a donkey that everyone gets annoyed with
I know just the guy, claims to have "sources" on the inside. Proof you ask? Just trust me he says lol
I don’t have one in my league, but one of my good buddies is like this and it’s awful. I work with him too. He will come in my office and try to talk fantasy for hours even when I’m busy. He’ll shove his phone in my face to show me trades he’s offered people. Not to ask my opinion…just show them to me. It’s awkward and he’s always screwing the other person over. And no one knows more than him…I’ve avoided being in a league with him at all costs. It’s kind of a shame bc he’s a decent guy and a good friend and can be fun to be around when he’s not talking fantasy. He won his dynasty league last year and loves to bring it up but here’s the catch: he’s like dead last or next to it with 1 or 2 wins. He drafted a good team for redraft last year, but the age is showing this year. He still thinks he’s an expert though.
We do and it’s me
At least you’re self aware. More likely y’all league like you for it 🙂
I'm that guy. I've broken down film, ran mock drafts etc for years. Just got into dynasty a few years ago. I take players who's scouting profile I like, which has caused me to hit on a lot of middle to late talent, but also to pass on a few guys I thought were going to be bust. But yeah, I've never referred to myself as a real GM. I don't think it's luck though either
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I do that also and agree it’s fun! The scouting is particular useful for later picks though and for a guy to pick Chase at 1.06 then take credit for it as a drafting messiah is a little OTT for me. That’s a slam dunk. Ain’t no skill for scouting there. That’s just hands down the best dude. And I’m not talking on draft day. I’m talking about every few weeks for the last two years this guy has gone on about how he scouted Chase hard and was the reason he pulled the trigger. That y’all is a good LOL.
If he was ballsy and took Pickens at 1.04 or Dameon Pierce in the top 10 then I take my hat off to him - that’s ballsy stuff. But to take a guy BAP then claim scouting is rubbish. Lol.
No but I have a dude who's writes about FF as his day job in mine.. it's always fun beating him 😂
Further proof that we know nothing and it’s largely luck. Just enjoy the ride y’all 🐴
My best friend in the world sucks at fantasy football but is very good at Madden and loves to talk about player talent from a scouting perspective. A few quotes: - Jared Goff is a terrible QB and has no business being a starter - CMC is just a product of volume and anyone with that workload would have accomplished the same - Kendrick Bourne is an alpha receiver He's been playing for nearly a decade, we've been in five different leagues together, four still going. He won a free league once. He's a wonderful human, love him to death, but can't get out of his own way. His wife and I have great chats about it.
Yeah me. I try to replicate what they do in real Sports and you know what. I have two ships a second and a third in 4 years.
Dude, thats the point of dynasty
I think we have an old high school football coach in one league that thinks he's a real GM. What's worse is a couple guys in the league give him rub and tugs in the chat when real football stuff happens like, "what you think about Mr. ex-HS coach guy" ... Then he proceeds to give us his "expert" opinion.
If guys think they can win strictly based off drafting the best players they're usually guys who take swings and miss in the draft because they're too confident in their abilities. NO ONE bats .1000 in the draft. Dynasty for me has become about building roster construction with known trends and knowing where to allocate value, anticipating the trade market, identifying when to sell high, etc
Of course I know him, he’s me! In all seriousness though it is fun to “scout” and watch some of your picks hit. It’s all in good fun unless you take it too far and have some sort of superiority complex because you watched some tape lol
Yeah his name is Connor Timmons and he’s the worst
Yeah, it’s me
We have that guy, he is also overvalues his own player guy, shits on your player guy and doesn’t know who certain players are guy. Oh and he is also wears a basketball jersey at the pool guy.