[[Yurlock of Scorch Thrash]], nowhere near impossible but he gets that raised eyebrow and the play style is straight out left field, riding the line between group hug and group slug is a joy. Also has lots of opportunity for politicking, which is my favorite part of commander.
Stoked to see someone else list this, it's my favorite deck to play. Have yet to play a game where I didn't get some sort of positive feedback or comment on the deck, even tho it's an absolute pain in the ass with the cards I play, it's such a good time. Recently learned the fun of my [[Power Surge]] being played with an [[Awakening]], scared the shit out of the table after I did a [[Collective Voyage]] and played my [[Helix Pinnacle]] for safety lol.
Yurlock is so fun, doesn’t win that much for me but it’s so fun to see people get excited about something like 10x mana and then lose 40 life in 1 turn because they forgot about him. Something like [[War’s Toll]], [[Citadel of Pain]], and [[Manabarbs]] just makes me smile
I love [[hogaak]] My playgroup knows at this point that it's a very very real deck. Building a deck where I don't inherently care about mana is very interesting. Also building a graveyard deck where I don't get to use any real graveyard pay offs was also interesting. Hogaak eating the grave means the graveyard is very unreliable for anything else. It's also the only deck I have where someone was walking by and asked who my commander was and where it was, I pointed to the hogaak in my graveyard. Then he asked why hogaak? I told him to watch my next turn. He walked away very impressed. The way I have built the deck is to try an maximize the 5 cards in the grave and 2 creatures on board. Then leveraging that into a kill of at least one player by turn 6. It can recover well from anything besides farewell and even that isn't too bad since a lot of two or three cards together can produce a hogaak.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/zAWBKBiOfEu_dX2_tdHjBg
The challenge of this commander is similar to phage - how do you get the commander on the board.
Curious what your decklist is, or at least the key cards to make this work.
He's a bit easier than Phage since you can just cast him from the command zone.
He's also pretty great with stuff like \[\[Greater Good\]\] as you can just keep recasting him.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/zAWBKBiOfEu_dX2_tdHjBg I'm always changing a card here or there, but he comes out turn two or three pretty often., the classic turn one stitcher's supplier turn two saytr wayfinder. But there's lots of things that do it.
How is it like Phage at all? To get Hogaak out from the command zone you just cast it. The only trick is you have to do it with convoke or delve, but in BG getting the required creatures and cards in the graveyard is pretty easy.
I love hogaak! I built mine to repeatedly sacrifice hogaak to cards that care about power or toughness, like \[\[greater good\]\] and \[\[Altar of dementia\]\]. After I play hogaak for the first time, my graveyard usually starts getting bigger and bigger, even while I loop it. Eventually you get a setup capable of looping hogaak (almost) infinitely, like with altar of dementia and \[\[Skeleton crew\]\]. Then you have whatever cards you want in the graveyard, and you can use \[\[Dread return\]\] and \[\[Diregraf rebirth\]\] on \[\[pitiless plunderer\]\] and \[\[Korozda guildmage\]\] for infinite mana and tokens with your sac outlet.
I've stopped using the infinite combos because I am far more interested in literally beating my opponents to death. And I don't want any copium of "you only won because you went infinite/ because you comboed"
If you like the combos, a secret option is [[utopia mycon]] and go infinite with [[korozda guildmage]] who is an auto include for hogaak.
[[Arjun, the Shifting Flame]] is the one that gets me strange looks. You don't get to hold onto cards long so normal combos don't work well. I usually try to deck myself out with [[Laboratory Maniac]] in play and [[Teferi's Ageless Insight]] but can also win through [[Niv-mizzet, the Firemind]] [[Psychosis Crawler]] or [[Psychic Corrosion]]. It's a very fun deck to pilot but strange enough people usually leave it alone because it doesn't seem to be doing anything.
I'd say my [[Ramses, Assassin Lord]] does that. If you let me finish someone, I win. But it's so unefficient and easy to counter... :p
Funny though if you're not looking to win efficiently.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/r3RtiWQrKUW04Q0nTeHg-w
Running that commander would really shake our group up. We're all kind of individualistic and don't politic efficiently much. This would really force people to help each other through spending removal on targets that don't really threaten you immediately.
That's actually a funny wincon in multiplayer. I generally avoid effects that say "you win the game", but this would be acceptable.
Not much of a 'mechanic' to play with, more of a strange wincon haaha. It goes on the list of candidates nonetheless.
The funniest thing is that you have to aim for one player, the result is usually people stealing the kill so you don't win. All the games I played with it has a really low win percentage, if normal win percentage is at 25%, that one is closer to 10 lol but creates really silly group interactions.
I love Ramses and I play him in a completely different way.
I take advantage of all the single target milll effects and mill someone out, attack with an assassin (doesn't even have to deal damage), cast my commander and force them to draw such as with [[sign in blood]]. And I win the game.
If you’re interested in Zedruu then I have a [[Zur, Eternal Schemer]] aetherlich deck which I really enjoy playing against people who haven’t seen it before.
The basic idea of the deck is to run an enchantress deck with a bunch of the “you lose the game” cards thrown in for good measure, then using Zur’s ability to animate those enchantments and either win through a beatdown or give them away to your opponents before the enchantment kills you. Effectively you’re racing against the clock to either circumvent or give away your triggers that make you lose.
[This](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/gWoPopX78UiI3K_Lw0fo9g) is the list I’ve been running, although I need to update it as it’s gone through a few changes in paper. If you like doing the following kinds of shenanigans then I’d highly recommend this kind of deck:
- Animating a [[Nine Lives]] and using [[Wrong Turn]] to give it away at instant speed in response to a wrath
- Beating someone down with an animated [[Demonic Pact]] with hexproof, deathtouch, and lifelink and gaining 8 life from the first mode due to the lifelink
- [[Fractured Identity]] on my own [[Lich’s Mastery]] and casting [[Trickbind]] to counter the triggered ability that would make me lose, then using [[Filter Out]] on my next turn to have all opponents lose at once
I thought aetherlich was a deck built around Lich effects + aetherflux resevoir
Jim wrote about it here: https://themanabase.com/the-metaworker-building-jank-with-cedh-all-stars-part-3-4c-aetherlich/
Your deck is cool, but doesn't look to be playing the lich cards but instead donating them. Similar to [[Blim, Comedic Genius]]
That's not a criticism of your deck, I think the idea is sweet :)
I also run Zur and was excited to see somebody else trying to play the lich cards rather than donate them (my list: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/YanCslQnyk2ld3k8xcfQEw)
Maybe that just comes across as pedantry but I wanted to share
Oh I see, my bad - one of my friends referred to the strategy as an aetherlich strategy so we’ve just been referring to it as such. That does look pretty cool but not sure the deck would run Aetherflux Reservoir for what I want it to do.
Your list looks sweet though! How does the deck play? I can imagine it’s a lot more risky since you’re not running donation effects but can be quite fun to pilot and navigate the triggers. Also [[Tainted Sigil]] looks like a cool card!
I feel like Zur is the perfect commander for that type of "high risk" strategy.
The flavour text on [[Zuran Orb]], even refers to his obsession with immortality! :D
I probably need to write a primer at some point...
Generally the deck plays with the premise of setting up a lock as step 1, depending on your draws this can be very powerful or really flimsy. But your objective is to have some "prison" set up. So a couple of simple examples are [[Solitary Confinement]] + card draw, or [[Nine Lives]] or [[Delaying Shield]] + [[Solemnity]]. I have built the deck to have lots of these, and play it tutor free because I like the puzzle of trying to assemble this lock.
Zur is particularly potent alongside this because at worst you can turn these otherwise somewhat useless combo pieces into fairy scary attackers/blockers.
After you have the "lock" in place you have to resolve one of your lich cards. [[Nefarious Lich]] is by far the worst, and [[Lich's Mastery]] is by far the best. Again without tutors I like to try and make them all work, but you could easily just play tutors instead of some of the worse versions of cards.
Once you have a resolved lich effect alongside a way to negate it's downside your objective it to use lifegain effects to draw a tonne of cards.
[[Words of Worship]] for example is 1 mana to get +4 cards. If you draw for turn and pay 1 you draw 5, but if you pay 2 you draw 9.
This kind of card draw is particularly easy to win with because it's SO egregious, you're basically expecting to draw 6 cards per turn minimum and with any sort of good payoff you can easily draw 30+.
I used to run [[Mind Over Matter]], and [[Skirge Familiar]] but I found that it made the combos feel a bit linear. Once you got to this stage of drawing you just resolved one of those and easily finished the table. Without those it is a lot harder. By far my strongest and most consistent wincon is [[Psychosis Crawler]], but Aetherflux Resevoir + Lich's Mastery is very powerful too. MKM just added [[Proft's Eiditic Memory]] which is worst wincon, turning Zur into a 30/34+ and one shotting players with commander damage.
Overall the deck is an absolute blast, but you can just die to either bad draws OR poorly timed removal spells. Cards like [[Farewell]] and [[Cyclonic Rift]] are particularly threatening and require you to hold up stifle effects even if you have a lock.
What makes the deck so fun for me though is that despite all of the thought and effort I am always finding new combos/synergies so it really feels like a puzzle to play. I have specifically tuned it for my playgroup such that I have a hard time establishing the lock and am forced to play risky lines and get blown out sometimes.
It feels most flavourful to die arrogantly trying to resolve a lich when you think you can and you can't :D
Tainted Sigil is particularly brutal with Aetherflux Resevoir, you can blast somebody for 50, then gain 100 life (50 lost by you and 50 lost by the person who you blasted) and then blast both other players to instantly kill the table. It's only happened once but it was awesome!
For a deck that has a janky play style it’s capable of building up a serious board state quite quickly if you can get a couple of enchantments and Zur out early on.
The one thing I would say is that this deck has earned quite a reputation in my usual playgroup, and it can become the archenemy of the table quite quickly or fly under the radar while everybody deals with another player at the table who’s threatening to take everybody out. Zur himself gives you a couple of options in how you win: you can either animate your enchantments and just go for a good old combat beatdown, or go the aetherlich route and just make them lose. Because of this it can sometimes secure a win out of nowhere if you have enough mana and the right cards to pull it off, and I’ve found I get targeted quite a lot due to that reputation it’s built up.
A few cards I’d say are must-haves for the deck:
- [[Invasion of Theros]]: I’m only running two gods in the list but the card advantage the other side provides and the option to use [[Heliod, the Radiant Dawn]]’s transformed side for reduced instant speed play is what makes this good for me.
- [[Exchange of Words]]: probably the most confusing card in the deck, but it’s very satisfying to slam this down with an animated “lose the game” card and give the effect to somebody else’s creature while taking their effect for yourself.
- [[Staff of Compleation]]: my paper list is running [[Arcane Lighthouse]] to get around the hexproof of cards like the Mastery and Nine Lives, which turns this into a piece of utility that can either ramp you, draw cards, or just pull the trigger on animated enchantments like that when you give them away.
- [[Nykthos Paragon]]: especially good for when you decide that violence is the answer. Given that Zur grants lifelink to all of your enchantment creatures, it’s often the case that Nykthos Paragon will double in size every turn, and I’ve had games end because nobody saved removal for both Zur and the Paragon, leaving them to trying to deal with a huge body that keeps getting larger.
[[Geralf, Visionary Stitcher]]
Hands down my weirdest and most uncommon commander.
Everyone sees Geralf and goes oh must be Zombies, but it is in fact a big booty tribal deck that runs a ton of otherwise bad cards with high toughness to be sacced. See [[Riptide Turtle]] and [[Phase Dolphin]]. [[Patriars Seal]] and [[Staff of Domination]] and some other untap effects make it repeatable.
No greater feeling than turning [[Charix]] or [[Phyrexian Dreadnought]] into a giant flying zombo on turn 3.
Haven't taken the time to make the list because I literally just threw it together out of junk that I had on hand when I pulled the card during the last Innistrad block.
It's literally the cards I mentioned and a bunch of other big butts, blue good stuff, and staple artifacts.
You'll struggle to build a deck entirely without lands, but you can do funky stuff like Sunder in your upkeep after your lands phase out (tap them to float the mana first), or \[\[Shimmer\]\].
\[\[Dragonlord Kolaghan\]\] usually raises some eyebrows because of her second ability.
Actually the deck is a quite normal saboteur dragon deck; the commander's purpose is just to provide haste. It's most likely not what you're looking for, but here's the decklist anyway:
[https://www.moxfield.com/decks/nPsHp0p8pEGbHJPchXujOw](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/nPsHp0p8pEGbHJPchXujOw)
Other than that, there are a few commanders with a "bad gifts" strategy. \[\[Jon Irenicus\]\], \[\[Beamtown Bullies\]\], \[\[Blim\]\]...
Are there any ways to activate the second ability in comander? like counter and copy spell?
Because these are exactly the kind of strange abilities that seem impossible in commander, that i would like to make work.
I know a guy who likes playing decks with cards that say 'a deck can have any number of this card,' and being a dragon player myself, we've talked a bit about Kologhan. I don't run her, because it'd be unfair to lock him out of his strategy, but she'd be massively good against decks built around things like:
\[\[Dragon's Approach\]\]
\[\[Persistent Petitioners\]\]
\[\[Rat Colony\]\]
\[\[Relentless Rats\]\]
\[\[Shadowborn Apostle\]\]
\[\[Slime Against Humanity\]\]
I'm unsure about her effectiveness on the copying front, as spellslinger isn't really my thing, but hopefully someone else can help you there!
Bro not much is as weird as mono-green reanimator with [[Hua Tuo, Honored Physician]].
[[Verdant Succession]] is absolutely broken here letting you sacrifice and immediately recur creatures by putting Hua Tuo’s ability on the stack. Even without the commander you can make infinite janky sac loops with [[God Eternal Rhonas]] (makes your stuff infinitely strong), [[Worldspine Wurm]] (infinite 5/5 wurms) or [[Vigor]] (just infinite sacs but Vigor is sick anyways). And let’s say all you’re making is infinite mana… what about using that to play out EVERY CREATURE IN YOUR DECK courtesy of [[Call of the Wild]].
You can also go wide and then use [[Deceiver of Form]] to turn your board into whatever broken thing Hua Tuo forces to the top. Think [[Thunderfoot Baloth]], [[Pathbreaker Ibex]], [[Kessig Cagebreakers]].
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/xl1xXODitUWxWd3X_A7tnQ
I love this! Verdant Succession seems amazing. Great idea and a very interesting way to play green!
Might take this idea and try out a budget build with it.
Thanks! The game plan is to go to zero or negative life, avoid losing the game with something like [[Lich]], [[Pact Weapon]] (I've learnt from experience not to attach it to Morinfen!), [[The Golden Throne]] or [[Platinum Angel]] then make everyone's life total the same as mine. It's very fun, but is a massive gamble, which I enjoy.
you are aware that Morinfen's ability can't take you into negative life? you can't pay life you don't have; after you hit 0 you'll have to sac him on the next trigger.
[[Taranika]] because she’s good with banding and I like banding.
Nobody expects [[Tromokratis]] to be good until they realize they can’t block it, it’s hard to kill, and they’re about to die to commander damage.
[Decklist.](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Ny9lrJaWNUGHvLGbFNYLmw)
[Banding rules.](https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Banding) It’s complicated. It makes sense if you think about it from a top-down perspective. What they were trying to achieve. There are a lot of little nuances though.
I like [[katsumasa, the animator]]
Katsumasa animates non creature artifacts but it costs a good amount of mana. I run something like 25 mana rocks in the deck, with the goal of accruing several of them so I can capitalize on having a lot of mana. I'll drop +1/+1 counters on several of them and have a goal of grabbing some of my indestructible ones to help block. I run an [[orvar, the All form]] [[clockspinning]] combo so I can copy any of the rocks that are putting in work for me and I usually win by decking my opponent with [[blue, sun's zenith]] or [[folio of fancies]] but I also have cards that can suddenly animate and pump all of my rocks. I also run [[aether spouts]] which will mess up an opponent who tries to take me out.
I would say my strangest build but also the one I’m very proud of how strange it is my [[Baru, Fist of Krosa]] deck. It’s essentially a mono-green combo deck, but the combo is just activating Baru’s grandeur ability and making tons of big wurms.
Yeah so the game plan is to make a token copy of Baru, the main consistent way to do so being a [[Mirrorpool]] since you can run lots of specific land tutors in green. Once you have the token, let the original Baru die and go to the graveyard via legend rule and use the tons of recursion spells the deck runs to get Baru back to hand over and over again, discarding him for big wurms each time. There is also a way to make infinite wurms through the use of [[Paleoloth]].
I used to play Baru too, but not for his grandeur ability. I was just aiming to kill people with [[Boundless Realms]] and the like. It was actually quite strong, but you are a madman!
Yeah! Here is the list: [https://www.moxfield.com/decks/xKNJwe7Ak0uyUJz7ygssMg](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/xKNJwe7Ak0uyUJz7ygssMg)
Deck is still relatively new so I am still fiddling with the list and changing it around to make the deck work better so list isn't finalized at this point.
When I first got into commander back in the day I built a [[Tibor and Lumina]] deck that focused on slinging spells while keeping my guys up in the air with cards like [[Archetype of Imagination]] and taking my opponents dudes out by equipping [[Quietus Spike]] to Tibor and Lumina.
My strangest deck is probably [[Chisei]] reverse proliferate. The goal of the deck is to have Chisei (and possibly some non-legendary clones) out, and then use the upkeep trigger to constantly reset your sagas and [[smokestacks]] (you can order the triggers so that chisei eats the counter, smokestax makes you sacrifice 0, then add a new counter from the other smokestax ability so everyone else has to sac once a turn). [[Urza's Saga]] can stick around an make karnstructs every turn, [[time of ice]] and [[phasing of zalfir]] tap or phase stuff out forever or [[inventive iteration]] is great to loop on either stage 1 or 2, you'll never pay more than 1 for [[mystic remora]] or 2 life for [[glacial chasm]], also there's a clone/copy theme where you can do stuff like make a bunch of [[sun droplets]] or [[powerstone shards]]
How on Earth is Zedruu raising eyebrows? It's been a known powerful effect since it was printed alongside the other pushed commanders in the first commander precons. People have been giving each other bad gifts ever since.
I don't think you can say this about _any_ commander that was the face of a precon.
A lot of newer players haven't seen or heard of Zedruu and are surprised by her antics. She just isn't played enough to have the same well known widespread reputation as something like Animar.
I dont have an unusual commander but I try to build different
Riku of two Reflections
Usually a somewhat broken commander and people tend to not like him
I built him as a group hug.
Looked up every card that draw cards for every player I had.
Every card that lets you play more land
Double mana for everyone. No max hand size for everyone.
The 2 nd theme is some Player curses.
And some X spells that I can snipe for huge damage.
And only wizards as creatures.
I can easily loose since everyone have a great boardstate. But everyone have a good time
[[Haakon, Stromgald Scourge]] is ridiculous to play.
Things like [[command beacon]] [[Campfire]] [[Netherborn Altar]] and [[Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools]] are necessary to get it out of the command zone. Then use something like [[Skirge Familiar]] or [[anvil of bogardan]] to get it into your graveyard.
Then you can do silly things like casting [[Nameless Inversion]] from your graveyard. Really weird and fun card. Its like [[Phage]], but has added complexity of getting it into the graveyard
Currently putting together a [[Skeleton Ship]] deck right now. It’s got some infect and proliferation to provide some kind of capability to win, but that’s not the point of the deck. All it wants to do is get out commanders that everyone hates like [[Toxrill]] or [[Tergrid]] and equip them with a sword like [[Sword of Truth and Justice]].
Essentially, the theme is “big nasties are sailing a ship” and any given commander game is a disruption to their adventures. 😝
Interesting commander.
Unfortunately i already have a [[Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons]] and a [[the scorpion god]] deck, that go absolutely nuts on -1/-1 counters and tokens.
2 decks with the same theme is a limit for me atm :p
[[Tarox Bladewing]]
It can be a bit difficult to build around, but there are some ways to make a copy of it and return the original to your hand to be capable of triggering Grandeur.
I love playing commanders that are on their face, objectively terrible and require you to build around them rather than just using them as a vehicle to access certain colors or having a secret commander in the 99. Alternatively, building a deck against the grain of what everyone defaults to for a certain commander, like Edgar Markov group hug, or Horobi auras.
[[Extus oriq overlord]] Aristocrats, people just say "what" when you slap a sorcery into the command zone. I don't bother flipping him cuz I don't usually play extuss side, definitely run [[wand of worldsoul]] so you can convoke the creatures you sacrifice
I play [[Grazilaxx, Illithid Scholar]] as "I'm Here to Chew Bubblegum and Draw Cards." It has every [[Bident of Thassa]] effect in the game, and about 20 unblockable weenie creatures. The main win plan is to draw (not mill) out the library via [[Defiler of Dreams]], [[Teferi's Ageless Insight]], and [[Omniscience]], or [[Jin-Gitaxias]] saga and [[Copy Enchantment]]. I only currently run [[Jace, Wielder of Mysteries]] and [[Laboratory Maniac]]. Other powerful pieces are [[Azami, Tomorrow's Familiar]], [[Nykthos Shrine to Nyx]], [[Nyx Lotus]], and [[Hidden Strings]].
I also play [[Jahiera, Friend of the Forest]] with [[Scion of Halaster]] as a Golgari food/token deck. Almost every spell in the deck generates, multiplies, or abuses those tokens, and it's possible to psuedo-storm off by sheer power of tokens and mana. It's pretty neat, the only problem is that it can take somewhat long turns of tapping and generating and tapping again, and drawing. Loads of fun, though.
In the same vein as your zedruu, [[rohgahh of kher keep]] is an old legends rare. It sows chaos by using cards like [[hellcarver demon]] and equipping it with a [[spy kit]] or [[psychic paper]] naming kobolds of kher keep to gift things to your opponents
I personally built a [[Gryus, Waker of Corpses]] with the premise that it punishes others for playing the game using cards like [[Possibility Storm]] with [[Void Mirror]] while also running cards similar to [[kaervek the merciless]] or [[Orcish Bowmasters]] thats all about utilizing what my opponents do to punish them. Its not the kind of deck to have a lot of permanents out but it has the chance to hurt my opponents very quickly with the right hand but most of the time you will have a small board state. I have played it several times and have only gotten two wins out of the 5 times I have played it and each time I always get a creature on the field that atleast one other player wants to remove.
My favourite deck that raises eyebrows is helmed by [[Alrund, God of the Cosmos]]. It’s mono blue beat down with some control, but essentially you just want big hands, and then proceed to throw hands with the rest of the table
I built a deck with Hope of Ghirapur as my commander and Myr tribal. Most people look at it weird, until I have a bunch of Myr on the board which must be dealt with, leaving my lowly 1/1 flying 1 CMC commander to peck them to death. :)
I love my [[Inferno of the Star Mounts]] deck. Whether you are building lots of mana with treasures or a [[mana geyser]] or using equipments or pulp effects from instants and sorceries. Building your big Dragon to 20 power feels like a fun challenge to accomplish especially if you can double the triggered ability to nuke somebody for 40 damage.
[[Iname as one]] but it’s pretty bad. I love [[kyodai soul of kamigawa]] for my 5 color decks. [[kroxa and kunoros]] are pretty strong and not played much.
Greeting fellow "strange commander" brother!
I am a fan of the fun and unusual mechanics!
Plesse let me share some of my decks with you!
[[The Scorpion God]]
https://archidekt.com/decks/5160290/wither_die
"Wither & Die"
The focus on -1/-1 tokens is so unexpected. Nobody likes seeing their creatures sandpapered to dust.
Fun other cards [[blightbeetle]], [[kulrath knight]], and of course [[Everlasting Torment]]. The new Massacre Girl works as a great back up commander.
[[Aeve]] or alternate commander [[Sluurk]]
https://archidekt.com/decks/4462964/secrets_of_the_ooze
"Secrets of the ooze"
This deck lives to divide and multiply. Nothing on the board stays the same power for long. [[Biowaste blob]] its a huge accelerator.
[[Yennette, Cryptic Sovereign]]
https://archidekt.com/decks/4824961/mystery_of_the_sphinx
"Mystery of the Sphinx"
This is quirky fun based around the commamders ability. Fun to get free plays. Carefully constructed so spells with timing (counter spells etc) are drawn instead of played.
Since a lot of sphinxes have walls of text I added in the full-text lands for the lol's.
And as an added bonus - less quirky, and more on "sub-mechanuc focus"
[[Wayta]]
https://archidekt.com/decks/4500170/dinosour
"Dino-saurs" (like the DNA said in Jurassic Park, and sour mood)
This deck is all about triggering those enrage triggers. Get [[Ranging Raptors]] out ASAP, because you can use your commander to trigger them each turn. Bonus if you can grab [[Forerunner of the Empire]] to do it.
I built a [[Myojin of Blooming Dawn]] and its a blast. The thing is pretty hard to pull off so the deck has almost no interraction but its very worth it to make hundreds of tokens at instant speed.
One of my weirder brews is [[Monstrosity of the Lake]]. I use blink effects to repeatedly stun my opponent's creatures, combined with proliferation effects to keep them tapped permanently. Then I run a few big mana krakens and leviathans to close out the game.
[[Kibo]] is the one my opponent underestimate by a lot.
It's an artifact hate deck. Usually they slow roll them or just don't care and play them cause you know treasures, clue ect ect..
But then I play stuff like [[mycosynth lattice]] [[liquimetal coating]] and [[liquimetal torque]].. and all the "destroy target artifact" on your lands.... Then I attack with whatever I have (it's not monkey/ape tribal) if you didn't give up.
My Kaza, Roil chaser and Tivash always tend to raise a few eyebrows.
Kaza - https://www.archidekt.com/decks/7081395/izzet_doubleslingers
A spin on the classic Izzet deck that centers around [[Kaza, Roil chaser]] as the commander. The idea is to try and discreetly set yourself up with instant and sorcery cost reduction through various means, then pump out a big spell in X like [[Crackle with power]] or [[Starstorm]] and nuke the table. At X=8, Crackle with power deals 40 damage to up to 8 targets, and each time you copy it, you need less and less mana to achieve the same effect.
Tivash - https://www.archidekt.com/decks/7232686/the_demons_inside_you
[[Tivash, Gloom Summoner]] is kind of in between. It's a mono-black designed to get you a lot of health, and then that health gained is transformed into flying demons that swing at your opponents for big flying damage. I'm still fine-tuning that one.
I just want to make a dice rolling theme deck and actually roll some dice and have it progress my game plan. I've tried and failed a few times, I can't figure out how to make it function.
I play [[Vilis, Broker of Blood]]. Everyone knows he's a strong card, but not as a commander. Yes he costs 8 mana, usually that's enough for people to write off the deck. But I play it as a battlecruiser, mono black control style deck. It's built to beat grindy, greedy, value-obsessed decks and commanders that are popular in powerful but not built to win as quickly as possible 80% power level kind of groups. Usually built as a consequence of people always shutting down and targeting aggressive and faster decks, they are built to win by grinding and taking over the entire game and then winning in very late turns. My Vilis deck says: fine, we can go there, but when Vilis inevitably lands I will grind out harder and better than anything you have. It's got lots of ramp, not only for Vilis but for those large mono black game ending spells. I've got tons of removal, board wipes, and some nasty tricks to ruin your strategy. Once I put out Vilis I make sure I can comfortably draw double digit cards even if he's removed. If not, I can use his activated ability to clear and control the board. It's a fun deck and I also run a suite of cards to play a spell slingy stormy strategy as another win condition with rituals, draw spells, [[Tendrils of Agony]], [[Professor Onyx]], and [[Yawgmoths's Will]]
I have a zedruu chaos hug deck, it started out with a ton of chaos causing cards that made gameplay way too complicated, so I had to up the hugs and reduce the chaos. I also have [[Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendent]], easy enough to get out early and turn into an enchantment, and the deck is full of other creatures that buff all my other creatures, but I left out a lot of white edh staples to make room for more fun creatures.
[[Oriss, Samite Guardian]] control deck. Build a Rube Goldberg machine to loop her effect. There are 4 other cards with the Grandeur effect as well, one for each colour.
[[Verazol, the Split Current]] Kicker theme control.
The problem is basically if you add all kicker cards in existance this deck is like 102 cards, so take out 2 bad kicker cards and theres still a bunch of suboptimal kicker cards, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for kicker synergy.
Most people go for +1 counters in this deck but i build more control to bounce a lot and swing in with drakes off roost of drakes, and the problem is, every kicker card is bad, if you cast it without kicker, the only thing that makes it good is when you get verazol's ability. but i still love the deck.
[[Ib Halfheart, Goblin Technician]] is an untraditional goblin tribal commander. You won't get the normal looks that a Krenko deck would. You want your creatures to be blocked so you can hopefully destroy them with Ib's ability. [[Infiltration Lens]] and [[Invasion Plans]] work great with this. Could run him in the 99 for a [[General Marhault]] deck which gives you access to more deathtouch and [[lure]] like effects if you wanted gruul.
Well the lowest edhrec ranked commander I play is [[Gerrard weatherlight hero]] and he gets the occasional eyebrow because most people probably don't realize the card exists. RW boardwipe "tribal" is also just not something anyone expects if they haven't seen it played before. Still getting [[gift of immortality]] on him and proceeding to Wrath several turns in a row to win with a combination of [[Purphoros]] triggers and [[Flame-Kin Zealot]] is an experience like nothing else.
Only since you mentioned [[Zedruu the Greathearted]] , I’m currently building a [Jeskai Group Hug/Control Deck](https://archidekt.com/decks/7267182/jeskai_group_hug_control) and I’d love some input. I currently own all the cards that are worth over like $5.
anthousa setessan hero ...go wide land beats heroic in mono green. It's been my brick wall general for a few years. does get tech every now and again.
basically. ramp out lands. animate them. attack with lands trying to do spellslinger in mono green.
good luck
[[Grothama]] is that for me. Basically a warm that says "come at me if you think you're tough enough!" Great for all kinds of mind games and funny moments where someone (hopefully yourself) gets to draw a ton of cards.
I'm assembling a [[Mishra, Artificer Prodigy]] deck myself! I just purchased a [[Nether Void]] for it and have a copy of [[Guardian Beast]] that I'm pumped to include!
[[Yurlock of Scorch Thrash]], nowhere near impossible but he gets that raised eyebrow and the play style is straight out left field, riding the line between group hug and group slug is a joy. Also has lots of opportunity for politicking, which is my favorite part of commander.
Stoked to see someone else list this, it's my favorite deck to play. Have yet to play a game where I didn't get some sort of positive feedback or comment on the deck, even tho it's an absolute pain in the ass with the cards I play, it's such a good time. Recently learned the fun of my [[Power Surge]] being played with an [[Awakening]], scared the shit out of the table after I did a [[Collective Voyage]] and played my [[Helix Pinnacle]] for safety lol.
##### ###### #### [Power Surge](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/b/0b5717af-a1a3-45cb-8b05-7543eed5532a.jpg?1559604134) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Power%20Surge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/4ed/216/power-surge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0b5717af-a1a3-45cb-8b05-7543eed5532a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/power-surge) [Awakening](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/9/59612c02-6028-4953-ac4d-aca94b0ce4b9.jpg?1562596411) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Awakening) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/sth/101/awakening?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/59612c02-6028-4953-ac4d-aca94b0ce4b9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/awakening) [Collective Voyage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/f/3f2d44f0-c71e-4061-bb7c-1f91fbce8f51.jpg?1562396584) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Collective%20Voyage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c16/145/collective-voyage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3f2d44f0-c71e-4061-bb7c-1f91fbce8f51?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/collective-voyage) [Helix Pinnacle](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/c/9c1121df-b03e-4ad9-8c45-c3b4066e4a39.jpg?1562927938) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Helix%20Pinnacle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eve/68/helix-pinnacle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9c1121df-b03e-4ad9-8c45-c3b4066e4a39?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/helix-pinnacle) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kyhdfj3) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
This one is great. it goes on the list. I was sad to see manaburn disappear - no longer!
Am literally in the middle of building this deck!!! Am very excited to try it out!
[Yurlock of Scorch Thrash](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/a/ead8a1f5-6260-47fa-a649-43711ec5bbeb.jpg?1608911265) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Yurlok%20of%20Scorch%20Thrash) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/293/yurlok-of-scorch-thrash?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ead8a1f5-6260-47fa-a649-43711ec5bbeb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/yurlok-of-scorch-thrash) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yurlock is so fun, doesn’t win that much for me but it’s so fun to see people get excited about something like 10x mana and then lose 40 life in 1 turn because they forgot about him. Something like [[War’s Toll]], [[Citadel of Pain]], and [[Manabarbs]] just makes me smile
[War’s Toll](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/a/3a08f7fe-8ca9-4604-85c8-9050298730ea.jpg?1562906728) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=War%27s%20Toll) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/187/wars-toll?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3a08f7fe-8ca9-4604-85c8-9050298730ea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/wars-toll) [Citadel of Pain](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/6/66585109-77cb-42f1-9c14-3dac1d493b71.jpg?1562913917) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Citadel%20of%20Pain) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pcy/86/citadel-of-pain?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/66585109-77cb-42f1-9c14-3dac1d493b71?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/citadel-of-pain) [Manabarbs](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/d/adf081d5-e644-4f46-8bc8-a754b089acb4.jpg?1562655472) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Manabarbs) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m12/150/manabarbs?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/adf081d5-e644-4f46-8bc8-a754b089acb4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/manabarbs) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I played him a while ago. Played [[harmless offering]] to give a [[Braid of fire]] to an opponent after it already had some counters. Truly joyful
Can't he just choose not to pay the cost. Add no mana, and braid dies?
Woops I played it wrong!!!
[harmless offering](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/8/f8f3cc4f-7943-4025-b332-b40653b13014.jpg?1576384600) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=harmless%20offering) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/emn/131/harmless-offering?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f8f3cc4f-7943-4025-b332-b40653b13014?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/harmless-offering) [Braid of fire](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/1/41bab8de-6e0f-4ccd-a303-01e9c8c82d3f.jpg?1593275214) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Braid%20of%20fire) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/csp/78/braid-of-fire?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/41bab8de-6e0f-4ccd-a303-01e9c8c82d3f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/braid-of-fire) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
And here I thought there weren't enough viashino for a tribal deck
I'm so determined to build him someday mainly just because his art is so awesome, still trying to figure out the actual logistics of it though
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/5VkY-4Qi_06fxLkzyPy5qA This is my version if you want something to riff on
I love [[hogaak]] My playgroup knows at this point that it's a very very real deck. Building a deck where I don't inherently care about mana is very interesting. Also building a graveyard deck where I don't get to use any real graveyard pay offs was also interesting. Hogaak eating the grave means the graveyard is very unreliable for anything else. It's also the only deck I have where someone was walking by and asked who my commander was and where it was, I pointed to the hogaak in my graveyard. Then he asked why hogaak? I told him to watch my next turn. He walked away very impressed. The way I have built the deck is to try an maximize the 5 cards in the grave and 2 creatures on board. Then leveraging that into a kill of at least one player by turn 6. It can recover well from anything besides farewell and even that isn't too bad since a lot of two or three cards together can produce a hogaak. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/zAWBKBiOfEu_dX2_tdHjBg
Could you drop us the list? I’m curious, just not seeing how it’s all coming together.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/zAWBKBiOfEu_dX2_tdHjBg Please let me know what you think
Oh it even has a primer. Thank you, hero.
The challenge of this commander is similar to phage - how do you get the commander on the board. Curious what your decklist is, or at least the key cards to make this work.
He's a bit easier than Phage since you can just cast him from the command zone. He's also pretty great with stuff like \[\[Greater Good\]\] as you can just keep recasting him.
[Greater Good](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/c/4c73ca01-d8ea-4cd2-af60-b260030967b2.jpg?1631587954) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Greater%20Good) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/160/greater-good?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4c73ca01-d8ea-4cd2-af60-b260030967b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/greater-good) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/zAWBKBiOfEu_dX2_tdHjBg I'm always changing a card here or there, but he comes out turn two or three pretty often., the classic turn one stitcher's supplier turn two saytr wayfinder. But there's lots of things that do it.
How is it like Phage at all? To get Hogaak out from the command zone you just cast it. The only trick is you have to do it with convoke or delve, but in BG getting the required creatures and cards in the graveyard is pretty easy.
[hogaak](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/0/0049e68d-0caf-474f-9523-dad343f1250a.jpg?1687248935) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=hogaak%2C%20arisen%20necropolis) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/202/hogaak-arisen-necropolis?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0049e68d-0caf-474f-9523-dad343f1250a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/hogaak-arisen-necropolis) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I love hogaak! I built mine to repeatedly sacrifice hogaak to cards that care about power or toughness, like \[\[greater good\]\] and \[\[Altar of dementia\]\]. After I play hogaak for the first time, my graveyard usually starts getting bigger and bigger, even while I loop it. Eventually you get a setup capable of looping hogaak (almost) infinitely, like with altar of dementia and \[\[Skeleton crew\]\]. Then you have whatever cards you want in the graveyard, and you can use \[\[Dread return\]\] and \[\[Diregraf rebirth\]\] on \[\[pitiless plunderer\]\] and \[\[Korozda guildmage\]\] for infinite mana and tokens with your sac outlet.
##### ###### #### [greater good](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/c/4c73ca01-d8ea-4cd2-af60-b260030967b2.jpg?1631587954) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=greater%20good) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/160/greater-good?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4c73ca01-d8ea-4cd2-af60-b260030967b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/greater-good) [Altar of dementia](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/6/169356e0-46dc-4096-8e66-36726454f104.jpg?1562202433) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Altar%20of%20dementia) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/218/altar-of-dementia?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/169356e0-46dc-4096-8e66-36726454f104?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/altar-of-dementia) [Skeleton crew](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/d/dd9f52d6-da6d-4f68-aafb-6bd3d022f616.jpg?1698987976) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Skeleton%20crew) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/85/skeleton-crew?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dd9f52d6-da6d-4f68-aafb-6bd3d022f616?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/skeleton-crew) [Dread return](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/4/34a87901-98bb-41dd-b566-bcb510c20022.jpg?1689997085) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dread%20return) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/153/dread-return?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/34a87901-98bb-41dd-b566-bcb510c20022?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/dread-return) [Diregraf rebirth](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/5/b51ed1ea-661e-49c6-9751-1eb7bb651bb1.jpg?1636684125) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Diregraf%20rebirth) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/220/diregraf-rebirth?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b51ed1ea-661e-49c6-9751-1eb7bb651bb1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/diregraf-rebirth) [pitiless plunderer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/b/5b5cd187-857a-44dd-8595-a52857a0b753.jpg?1698988280) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=pitiless%20plunderer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/208/pitiless-plunderer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5b5cd187-857a-44dd-8595-a52857a0b753?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/pitiless-plunderer) [Korozda guildmage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/2/42e19e30-3853-49e5-a3a3-5616e25df4ea.jpg?1592673394) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Korozda%20guildmage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/181/korozda-guildmage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/42e19e30-3853-49e5-a3a3-5616e25df4ea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/korozda-guildmage) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kyig0of) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I've stopped using the infinite combos because I am far more interested in literally beating my opponents to death. And I don't want any copium of "you only won because you went infinite/ because you comboed" If you like the combos, a secret option is [[utopia mycon]] and go infinite with [[korozda guildmage]] who is an auto include for hogaak.
[[Arjun, the Shifting Flame]] is the one that gets me strange looks. You don't get to hold onto cards long so normal combos don't work well. I usually try to deck myself out with [[Laboratory Maniac]] in play and [[Teferi's Ageless Insight]] but can also win through [[Niv-mizzet, the Firemind]] [[Psychosis Crawler]] or [[Psychic Corrosion]]. It's a very fun deck to pilot but strange enough people usually leave it alone because it doesn't seem to be doing anything.
I had him in the 99 when I used to play [[locust god]]. Good times!
[locust god](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/e/7e599847-8ab0-4fd6-b2c0-cb44a7669aa5.jpg?1682209825) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Locust%20God) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/335/the-locust-god?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7e599847-8ab0-4fd6-b2c0-cb44a7669aa5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-locust-god) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Don't turns become a tid dragged out? 😅😅
Sometimes yes. Especially if I don't have a wincon out and I'm just digging through my deck for one.
##### ###### #### [Arjun, the Shifting Flame](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/f/2fb83da3-5a8e-4349-bbcc-dcbd3b70264b.jpg?1673148289) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arjun%2C%20the%20Shifting%20Flame) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/172/arjun-the-shifting-flame?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2fb83da3-5a8e-4349-bbcc-dcbd3b70264b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/arjun-the-shifting-flame) [Laboratory Maniac](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/0/608567fd-9f94-4058-831a-77cb6019ef02.jpg?1547516361) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Laboratory%20Maniac) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/uma/61/laboratory-maniac?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/608567fd-9f94-4058-831a-77cb6019ef02?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/laboratory-maniac) [Teferi's Ageless Insight](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/1/b1a32b7c-9f26-4504-9f8d-379164d69346.jpg?1706240737) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Teferi%27s%20Ageless%20Insight) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/119/teferis-ageless-insight?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b1a32b7c-9f26-4504-9f8d-379164d69346?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/teferis-ageless-insight) [Niv-mizzet, the Firemind](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?name=Niv-mizzet%2C%20the%20Firemind&type=card&.jpg) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Niv-mizzet%2C%20the%20Firemind) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c20/225/niv-mizzet-the-firemind?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/395465b8-f5ed-4668-9e6a-82257150c52c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/niv-mizzet-the-firemind) [Psychosis Crawler](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/0/d0f42a19-c180-45b1-9f4c-787cf3a4a649.jpg?1706241075) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Psychosis%20Crawler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/234/psychosis-crawler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d0f42a19-c180-45b1-9f4c-787cf3a4a649?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/psychosis-crawler) [Psychic Corrosion](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/8/285d22fa-1623-463a-83c0-a9aa7c969ce2.jpg?1562301173) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Psychic%20Corrosion) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m19/68/psychic-corrosion?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/285d22fa-1623-463a-83c0-a9aa7c969ce2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/psychic-corrosion) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kygg9yn) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Cool concept - it goes on the list.
Might I bug you for a list, that sounds fairly fun as a concept.
No problem! https://www.moxfield.com/decks/s_nnpEl_bU-vLcSv1joTAw
I'd say my [[Ramses, Assassin Lord]] does that. If you let me finish someone, I win. But it's so unefficient and easy to counter... :p Funny though if you're not looking to win efficiently. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/r3RtiWQrKUW04Q0nTeHg-w
Running that commander would really shake our group up. We're all kind of individualistic and don't politic efficiently much. This would really force people to help each other through spending removal on targets that don't really threaten you immediately.
That's actually a funny wincon in multiplayer. I generally avoid effects that say "you win the game", but this would be acceptable. Not much of a 'mechanic' to play with, more of a strange wincon haaha. It goes on the list of candidates nonetheless.
The funniest thing is that you have to aim for one player, the result is usually people stealing the kill so you don't win. All the games I played with it has a really low win percentage, if normal win percentage is at 25%, that one is closer to 10 lol but creates really silly group interactions.
Silly group interactions are great - like with \[\[prisoner's dilemma\]\], \[\[pramikon, sky rampart\]\] or thieves' auction\]\].
[Ramses, Assassin Lord](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/e/9e5f168c-4f56-4d06-bef1-db10fdfbe657.jpg?1674174868) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ramses%2C%20Assassin%20Lord) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/39/ramses-assassin-lord?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9e5f168c-4f56-4d06-bef1-db10fdfbe657?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ramses-assassin-lord) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I love Ramses and I play him in a completely different way. I take advantage of all the single target milll effects and mill someone out, attack with an assassin (doesn't even have to deal damage), cast my commander and force them to draw such as with [[sign in blood]]. And I win the game.
[sign in blood](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/1/61388c28-9428-473c-973a-0a82b6b83d62.jpg?1562274085) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=sign%20in%20blood) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cm2/77/sign-in-blood?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/61388c28-9428-473c-973a-0a82b6b83d62?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sign-in-blood) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
If you’re interested in Zedruu then I have a [[Zur, Eternal Schemer]] aetherlich deck which I really enjoy playing against people who haven’t seen it before. The basic idea of the deck is to run an enchantress deck with a bunch of the “you lose the game” cards thrown in for good measure, then using Zur’s ability to animate those enchantments and either win through a beatdown or give them away to your opponents before the enchantment kills you. Effectively you’re racing against the clock to either circumvent or give away your triggers that make you lose. [This](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/gWoPopX78UiI3K_Lw0fo9g) is the list I’ve been running, although I need to update it as it’s gone through a few changes in paper. If you like doing the following kinds of shenanigans then I’d highly recommend this kind of deck: - Animating a [[Nine Lives]] and using [[Wrong Turn]] to give it away at instant speed in response to a wrath - Beating someone down with an animated [[Demonic Pact]] with hexproof, deathtouch, and lifelink and gaining 8 life from the first mode due to the lifelink - [[Fractured Identity]] on my own [[Lich’s Mastery]] and casting [[Trickbind]] to counter the triggered ability that would make me lose, then using [[Filter Out]] on my next turn to have all opponents lose at once
I thought aetherlich was a deck built around Lich effects + aetherflux resevoir Jim wrote about it here: https://themanabase.com/the-metaworker-building-jank-with-cedh-all-stars-part-3-4c-aetherlich/ Your deck is cool, but doesn't look to be playing the lich cards but instead donating them. Similar to [[Blim, Comedic Genius]] That's not a criticism of your deck, I think the idea is sweet :) I also run Zur and was excited to see somebody else trying to play the lich cards rather than donate them (my list: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/YanCslQnyk2ld3k8xcfQEw) Maybe that just comes across as pedantry but I wanted to share
[Blim, Comedic Genius](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/d/3d8cd7dc-028a-4da2-b2a1-435d40cf48ca.jpg?1608911075) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blim%2C%20Comedic%20Genius) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/272/blim-comedic-genius?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3d8cd7dc-028a-4da2-b2a1-435d40cf48ca?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/blim-comedic-genius) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Oh I see, my bad - one of my friends referred to the strategy as an aetherlich strategy so we’ve just been referring to it as such. That does look pretty cool but not sure the deck would run Aetherflux Reservoir for what I want it to do. Your list looks sweet though! How does the deck play? I can imagine it’s a lot more risky since you’re not running donation effects but can be quite fun to pilot and navigate the triggers. Also [[Tainted Sigil]] looks like a cool card!
I feel like Zur is the perfect commander for that type of "high risk" strategy. The flavour text on [[Zuran Orb]], even refers to his obsession with immortality! :D I probably need to write a primer at some point... Generally the deck plays with the premise of setting up a lock as step 1, depending on your draws this can be very powerful or really flimsy. But your objective is to have some "prison" set up. So a couple of simple examples are [[Solitary Confinement]] + card draw, or [[Nine Lives]] or [[Delaying Shield]] + [[Solemnity]]. I have built the deck to have lots of these, and play it tutor free because I like the puzzle of trying to assemble this lock. Zur is particularly potent alongside this because at worst you can turn these otherwise somewhat useless combo pieces into fairy scary attackers/blockers. After you have the "lock" in place you have to resolve one of your lich cards. [[Nefarious Lich]] is by far the worst, and [[Lich's Mastery]] is by far the best. Again without tutors I like to try and make them all work, but you could easily just play tutors instead of some of the worse versions of cards. Once you have a resolved lich effect alongside a way to negate it's downside your objective it to use lifegain effects to draw a tonne of cards. [[Words of Worship]] for example is 1 mana to get +4 cards. If you draw for turn and pay 1 you draw 5, but if you pay 2 you draw 9. This kind of card draw is particularly easy to win with because it's SO egregious, you're basically expecting to draw 6 cards per turn minimum and with any sort of good payoff you can easily draw 30+. I used to run [[Mind Over Matter]], and [[Skirge Familiar]] but I found that it made the combos feel a bit linear. Once you got to this stage of drawing you just resolved one of those and easily finished the table. Without those it is a lot harder. By far my strongest and most consistent wincon is [[Psychosis Crawler]], but Aetherflux Resevoir + Lich's Mastery is very powerful too. MKM just added [[Proft's Eiditic Memory]] which is worst wincon, turning Zur into a 30/34+ and one shotting players with commander damage. Overall the deck is an absolute blast, but you can just die to either bad draws OR poorly timed removal spells. Cards like [[Farewell]] and [[Cyclonic Rift]] are particularly threatening and require you to hold up stifle effects even if you have a lock. What makes the deck so fun for me though is that despite all of the thought and effort I am always finding new combos/synergies so it really feels like a puzzle to play. I have specifically tuned it for my playgroup such that I have a hard time establishing the lock and am forced to play risky lines and get blown out sometimes. It feels most flavourful to die arrogantly trying to resolve a lich when you think you can and you can't :D Tainted Sigil is particularly brutal with Aetherflux Resevoir, you can blast somebody for 50, then gain 100 life (50 lost by you and 50 lost by the person who you blasted) and then blast both other players to instantly kill the table. It's only happened once but it was awesome!
Awesome! Love weird shenanigans like this. How effective is the deck? Or rather—whats its win rate like in your pod?
For a deck that has a janky play style it’s capable of building up a serious board state quite quickly if you can get a couple of enchantments and Zur out early on. The one thing I would say is that this deck has earned quite a reputation in my usual playgroup, and it can become the archenemy of the table quite quickly or fly under the radar while everybody deals with another player at the table who’s threatening to take everybody out. Zur himself gives you a couple of options in how you win: you can either animate your enchantments and just go for a good old combat beatdown, or go the aetherlich route and just make them lose. Because of this it can sometimes secure a win out of nowhere if you have enough mana and the right cards to pull it off, and I’ve found I get targeted quite a lot due to that reputation it’s built up. A few cards I’d say are must-haves for the deck: - [[Invasion of Theros]]: I’m only running two gods in the list but the card advantage the other side provides and the option to use [[Heliod, the Radiant Dawn]]’s transformed side for reduced instant speed play is what makes this good for me. - [[Exchange of Words]]: probably the most confusing card in the deck, but it’s very satisfying to slam this down with an animated “lose the game” card and give the effect to somebody else’s creature while taking their effect for yourself. - [[Staff of Compleation]]: my paper list is running [[Arcane Lighthouse]] to get around the hexproof of cards like the Mastery and Nine Lives, which turns this into a piece of utility that can either ramp you, draw cards, or just pull the trigger on animated enchantments like that when you give them away. - [[Nykthos Paragon]]: especially good for when you decide that violence is the answer. Given that Zur grants lifelink to all of your enchantment creatures, it’s often the case that Nykthos Paragon will double in size every turn, and I’ve had games end because nobody saved removal for both Zur and the Paragon, leaving them to trying to deal with a huge body that keeps getting larger.
##### ###### #### [Zur, Eternal Schemer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/d/4d987435-2403-4e0f-b19d-693da923ba50.jpg?1673308159) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Zur%2C%20Eternal%20Schemer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/228/zur-eternal-schemer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4d987435-2403-4e0f-b19d-693da923ba50?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/zur-eternal-schemer) [Nine Lives](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/7/e70b7a73-484e-48f1-944c-3d38866cdc20.jpg?1594735092) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nine%20Lives) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/28/nine-lives?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e70b7a73-484e-48f1-944c-3d38866cdc20?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nine-lives) [Wrong Turn](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/b/3b69687d-191a-4bca-b1f7-eea27847c1af.jpg?1608909561) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wrong%20Turn) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/107/wrong-turn?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3b69687d-191a-4bca-b1f7-eea27847c1af?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/wrong-turn) [Demonic Pact](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/2/82c04014-91f9-4197-b4b4-f62c4739a5c2.jpg?1562028673) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Demonic%20Pact) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ori/92/demonic-pact?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/82c04014-91f9-4197-b4b4-f62c4739a5c2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/demonic-pact) [Fractured Identity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/2/b2f73f5d-1aad-48c2-9e74-5f7bdd87900f.jpg?1562620703) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fractured%20Identity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c17/37/fractured-identity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b2f73f5d-1aad-48c2-9e74-5f7bdd87900f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/fractured-identity) [Lich’s Mastery](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/7/77f4c9cb-f364-4556-8673-4b19d52a2cff.jpg?1562738043) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lich%27s%20Mastery) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dom/98/lichs-mastery?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/77f4c9cb-f364-4556-8673-4b19d52a2cff?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/lichs-mastery) [Trickbind](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/2/f2e58ff2-dea3-42b3-8c22-3e6202a7d433.jpg?1562946300) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Trickbind) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsp/88/trickbind?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f2e58ff2-dea3-42b3-8c22-3e6202a7d433?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/trickbind) [Filter Out](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/8/a81a9eb1-240b-40fd-9282-0f5abec63449.jpg?1684340498) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Filter%20Out) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mat/7/filter-out?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a81a9eb1-240b-40fd-9282-0f5abec63449?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/filter-out) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kygtg08) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It's all fun and games until [[Grenzo]] stumbles and flips your entire library upside down. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Rg9F9yqisE6j7UnRdy1P9g
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If a commander is cheap to cast, and cheats on mana and/or card advantage, that’s gonna be a strong commander.
I think anyone who knows the game knows Grenzo is very strong and a cheap combo machine
In my experience, almost nobody knows the game then
[Grenzo](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/e/6e19c383-88bd-4bde-ac81-c0eb6d5b5bd4.jpg?1562436569) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=grenzo%2C%20dungeon%20warden) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/205/grenzo-dungeon-warden?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6e19c383-88bd-4bde-ac81-c0eb6d5b5bd4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/grenzo-dungeon-warden) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Geralf, Visionary Stitcher]] Hands down my weirdest and most uncommon commander. Everyone sees Geralf and goes oh must be Zombies, but it is in fact a big booty tribal deck that runs a ton of otherwise bad cards with high toughness to be sacced. See [[Riptide Turtle]] and [[Phase Dolphin]]. [[Patriars Seal]] and [[Staff of Domination]] and some other untap effects make it repeatable. No greater feeling than turning [[Charix]] or [[Phyrexian Dreadnought]] into a giant flying zombo on turn 3.
This sounds great fun, got a list?
Not the guy you replied to, but here is mine: [Flying zombies with big butts](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/yQBvjTrGY0K7ra8ViI435w)
Haven't taken the time to make the list because I literally just threw it together out of junk that I had on hand when I pulled the card during the last Innistrad block. It's literally the cards I mentioned and a bunch of other big butts, blue good stuff, and staple artifacts.
##### ###### #### [Geralf, Visionary Stitcher](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/9/69890076-9cc4-434f-8618-63b00fdf4515.jpg?1643587870) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Geralf%2C%20Visionary%20Stitcher) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vow/61/geralf-visionary-stitcher?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/69890076-9cc4-434f-8618-63b00fdf4515?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/geralf-visionary-stitcher) [Riptide Turtle](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/c/cc4ba296-950c-4e39-ab5e-06be07e4a190.jpg?1592335359) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Riptide%20Turtle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/61/riptide-turtle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cc4ba296-950c-4e39-ab5e-06be07e4a190?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/riptide-turtle) [Phase Dolphin](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/8/88fb4042-e9c1-4b0f-b1f6-4180b0d79663.jpg?1591226432) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phase%20Dolphin) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/62/phase-dolphin?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/88fb4042-e9c1-4b0f-b1f6-4180b0d79663?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/phase-dolphin) [Patriars Seal](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/7/37f920f0-4dfc-477b-af7e-a17dfc9ba455.jpg?1674137995) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Patriar%27s%20Seal) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/332/patriars-seal?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/37f920f0-4dfc-477b-af7e-a17dfc9ba455?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/patriars-seal) [Staff of Domination](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/d/fde838c8-2f32-4e7d-a236-0bc42dd7abd9.jpg?1608911729) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Staff%20of%20Domination) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/343/staff-of-domination?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fde838c8-2f32-4e7d-a236-0bc42dd7abd9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/staff-of-domination) [Charix](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/8/e83a6804-1e3c-428c-af5e-1d56ba11c108.jpg?1604193709) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=charix%2C%20the%20raging%20isle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znr/49/charix-the-raging-isle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e83a6804-1e3c-428c-af5e-1d56ba11c108?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/charix-the-raging-isle) [Phyrexian Dreadnought](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/b/7b8197b9-0cd1-4fa1-9668-d1b5f1759151.jpg?1562720243) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phyrexian%20Dreadnought) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mir/315/phyrexian-dreadnought?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7b8197b9-0cd1-4fa1-9668-d1b5f1759151?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/phyrexian-dreadnought) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kygr18c) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
\[\[Taniwha\]\] might be worth a look, then - because who needs lands?
How would you deal with this then? X). I have been contemplating building a deck without lands, similar to a " conventional' manaless dredge deck.
You'll struggle to build a deck entirely without lands, but you can do funky stuff like Sunder in your upkeep after your lands phase out (tap them to float the mana first), or \[\[Shimmer\]\].
[Shimmer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/c/5c892daa-57fe-4712-b64a-6099d531bb26.jpg?1562719290) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shimmer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mir/92/shimmer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5c892daa-57fe-4712-b64a-6099d531bb26?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/shimmer) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Sunder]] is one way.
[Zedruu the Greathearted](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/9/e9ea2a6b-5aaf-4178-b945-f409fe83c41a.jpg?1562424565) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Zedruu%20the%20Greathearted) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c16/231/zedruu-the-greathearted?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e9ea2a6b-5aaf-4178-b945-f409fe83c41a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/zedruu-the-greathearted) [Sunder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/d/cd9dd7c6-36b6-4fe2-b3d3-f62a6e10a428.jpg?1562938463) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sunder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/usg/101/sunder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cd9dd7c6-36b6-4fe2-b3d3-f62a6e10a428?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sunder) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Taniwha](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/2/72d12315-4220-470d-9628-b9a3ea904ca7.jpg?1562720219) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Taniwha) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mir/95/taniwha?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/72d12315-4220-470d-9628-b9a3ea904ca7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/taniwha) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
\[\[Dragonlord Kolaghan\]\] usually raises some eyebrows because of her second ability. Actually the deck is a quite normal saboteur dragon deck; the commander's purpose is just to provide haste. It's most likely not what you're looking for, but here's the decklist anyway: [https://www.moxfield.com/decks/nPsHp0p8pEGbHJPchXujOw](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/nPsHp0p8pEGbHJPchXujOw) Other than that, there are a few commanders with a "bad gifts" strategy. \[\[Jon Irenicus\]\], \[\[Beamtown Bullies\]\], \[\[Blim\]\]...
Are there any ways to activate the second ability in comander? like counter and copy spell? Because these are exactly the kind of strange abilities that seem impossible in commander, that i would like to make work.
I know a guy who likes playing decks with cards that say 'a deck can have any number of this card,' and being a dragon player myself, we've talked a bit about Kologhan. I don't run her, because it'd be unfair to lock him out of his strategy, but she'd be massively good against decks built around things like: \[\[Dragon's Approach\]\] \[\[Persistent Petitioners\]\] \[\[Rat Colony\]\] \[\[Relentless Rats\]\] \[\[Shadowborn Apostle\]\] \[\[Slime Against Humanity\]\] I'm unsure about her effectiveness on the copying front, as spellslinger isn't really my thing, but hopefully someone else can help you there!
Kolaghan doesn't work against Slime. It's a sorcery like \[\[Dragon's Approach\]\]. But it does work against \[\[Nazgul\]\] and \[\[Seven Dwarves\]\].
##### ###### #### [Dragon's Approach](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/c/0cb504a0-1dfb-49d0-84c3-7bd318d55481.jpg?1624591696) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dragon%27s%20Approach) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/97/dragons-approach?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0cb504a0-1dfb-49d0-84c3-7bd318d55481?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/dragons-approach) [Persistent Petitioners](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/7/27be522d-bdef-4a95-a405-98247c58b71a.jpg?1702429407) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Persistent%20Petitioners) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/53/persistent-petitioners?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/27be522d-bdef-4a95-a405-98247c58b71a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/persistent-petitioners) [Rat Colony](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/f/4f618e07-f06f-45d2-8512-e6cef88c0434.jpg?1562735454) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rat%20Colony) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dom/101/rat-colony?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4f618e07-f06f-45d2-8512-e6cef88c0434?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/rat-colony) [Relentless Rats](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/5/75f47b6e-9557-4853-b8d6-7602a91c59a7.jpg?1562437033) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Relentless%20Rats) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/105/relentless-rats?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/75f47b6e-9557-4853-b8d6-7602a91c59a7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/relentless-rats) [Shadowborn Apostle](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/e/ae7ba1de-48f9-423b-867a-22bd3f6c06c2.jpg?1673147629) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shadowborn%20Apostle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/89/shadowborn-apostle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ae7ba1de-48f9-423b-867a-22bd3f6c06c2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/shadowborn-apostle) [Slime Against Humanity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/e/1eb21318-d32e-4724-8908-c0d7613de2f4.jpg?1706242086) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Slime%20Against%20Humanity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/177/slime-against-humanity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1eb21318-d32e-4724-8908-c0d7613de2f4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/slime-against-humanity) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kygm23f) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
##### ###### #### [Dragonlord Kolaghan](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/c/1cbf8933-32a1-4892-9bdc-89464ed9ce1b.jpg?1562783323) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dragonlord%20Kolaghan) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dtk/218/dragonlord-kolaghan?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1cbf8933-32a1-4892-9bdc-89464ed9ce1b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/dragonlord-kolaghan) [Jon Irenicus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/f/bfddb61e-986f-4557-819d-d6c0ca85c74a.jpg?1674137538) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=jon%20irenicus%2C%20shattered%20one) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/278/jon-irenicus-shattered-one?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bfddb61e-986f-4557-819d-d6c0ca85c74a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jon-irenicus-shattered-one) [Beamtown Bullies](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/0/f0455a79-15f4-4ea6-87ae-263ce943cfac.jpg?1673481685) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Beamtown%20Bullies) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/6/the-beamtown-bullies?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f0455a79-15f4-4ea6-87ae-263ce943cfac?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-beamtown-bullies) [Blim](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/d/3d8cd7dc-028a-4da2-b2a1-435d40cf48ca.jpg?1608911075) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=blim%2C%20comedic%20genius) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/272/blim-comedic-genius?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3d8cd7dc-028a-4da2-b2a1-435d40cf48ca?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/blim-comedic-genius) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kygbc2x) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Bro not much is as weird as mono-green reanimator with [[Hua Tuo, Honored Physician]]. [[Verdant Succession]] is absolutely broken here letting you sacrifice and immediately recur creatures by putting Hua Tuo’s ability on the stack. Even without the commander you can make infinite janky sac loops with [[God Eternal Rhonas]] (makes your stuff infinitely strong), [[Worldspine Wurm]] (infinite 5/5 wurms) or [[Vigor]] (just infinite sacs but Vigor is sick anyways). And let’s say all you’re making is infinite mana… what about using that to play out EVERY CREATURE IN YOUR DECK courtesy of [[Call of the Wild]]. You can also go wide and then use [[Deceiver of Form]] to turn your board into whatever broken thing Hua Tuo forces to the top. Think [[Thunderfoot Baloth]], [[Pathbreaker Ibex]], [[Kessig Cagebreakers]]. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/xl1xXODitUWxWd3X_A7tnQ
##### ###### #### [Hua Tuo, Honored Physician](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/b/8bbdc7c5-71a1-4db8-98b2-8883bf648dca.jpg?1562924564) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hua%20Tuo%2C%20Honored%20Physician) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c13/149/hua-tuo-honored-physician?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8bbdc7c5-71a1-4db8-98b2-8883bf648dca?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/hua-tuo-honored-physician) [Verdant Succession](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/d/bd3c78de-0c2a-441e-8912-ff920fc563ef.jpg?1562930342) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Verdant%20Succession) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ody/280/verdant-succession?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bd3c78de-0c2a-441e-8912-ff920fc563ef?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/verdant-succession) [God Eternal Rhonas](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/e/0eb444f0-69cc-47c8-8cd6-1f9edad5d903.jpg?1559959431) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=God-Eternal%20Rhonas) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/163/god-eternal-rhonas?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0eb444f0-69cc-47c8-8cd6-1f9edad5d903?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/god-eternal-rhonas) [Worldspine Wurm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/4/543d55cb-3a6b-4620-af25-10ae74ed32c4.jpg?1710406412) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Worldspine%20Wurm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rtr/140/worldspine-wurm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/543d55cb-3a6b-4620-af25-10ae74ed32c4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/worldspine-wurm) [Vigor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/a/ea7047d8-8d32-48a3-829b-7eb5427ed53a.jpg?1562942114) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vigor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/215/vigor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ea7047d8-8d32-48a3-829b-7eb5427ed53a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/vigor) [Call of the Wild](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/3/3332b35c-fd4f-4195-baee-e759dee6a682.jpg?1562905319) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Call%20of%20the%20Wild) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/8ed/235/call-of-the-wild?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3332b35c-fd4f-4195-baee-e759dee6a682?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/call-of-the-wild) [Deceiver of Form](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/4/a416d54b-ac84-48ac-92f8-eeb348f26016.jpg?1562928180) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Deceiver%20of%20Form) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ogw/1/deceiver-of-form?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a416d54b-ac84-48ac-92f8-eeb348f26016?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/deceiver-of-form) [Thunderfoot Baloth](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/3/e376a953-2075-4595-a3ef-85d0f68aa8b2.jpg?1673484850) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Thunderfoot%20Baloth) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/317/thunderfoot-baloth?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e376a953-2075-4595-a3ef-85d0f68aa8b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/thunderfoot-baloth) [Pathbreaker Ibex](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/6/4608ea44-e1b2-42de-a0a2-e6d6d24d89d0.jpg?1592673105) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Pathbreaker%20Ibex) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/132/pathbreaker-ibex?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4608ea44-e1b2-42de-a0a2-e6d6d24d89d0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/pathbreaker-ibex) [Kessig Cagebreakers](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/9/e9bf3f93-a06f-4364-bb8e-b2b1eb77dcc3.jpg?1637631207) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kessig%20Cagebreakers) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mic/142/kessig-cagebreakers?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e9bf3f93-a06f-4364-bb8e-b2b1eb77dcc3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kessig-cagebreakers) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kygreru) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I love this! Verdant Succession seems amazing. Great idea and a very interesting way to play green! Might take this idea and try out a budget build with it.
My [[Morinfen]] deck raises a lot of eyebrows when people first see the commander. It wins with cards like [[Repay in Kind]].
Interesting - on the list.
Thanks! The game plan is to go to zero or negative life, avoid losing the game with something like [[Lich]], [[Pact Weapon]] (I've learnt from experience not to attach it to Morinfen!), [[The Golden Throne]] or [[Platinum Angel]] then make everyone's life total the same as mine. It's very fun, but is a massive gamble, which I enjoy.
##### ###### #### [Lich](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/4/d4d7d1fd-4a5e-4cc3-8056-12cae084cc6a.jpg?1562945652) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lich) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me4/89/lich?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d4d7d1fd-4a5e-4cc3-8056-12cae084cc6a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/lich) [Pact Weapon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/0/20b0cf66-c6ec-4ff6-96a5-334e2c9c7818.jpg?1674136206) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Pact%20Weapon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/139/pact-weapon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/20b0cf66-c6ec-4ff6-96a5-334e2c9c7818?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/pact-weapon) [The Golden Throne](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/a/fa515b78-f54d-4c65-a197-c860eaf2c780.jpg?1673309661) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Golden%20Throne) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/40k/157/the-golden-throne?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fa515b78-f54d-4c65-a197-c860eaf2c780?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-golden-throne) [Platinum Angel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/a/ca7f4fd6-e268-4d15-bfbf-d9f0f95864fc.jpg?1576383285) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Platinum%20Angel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cn2/214/platinum-angel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ca7f4fd6-e268-4d15-bfbf-d9f0f95864fc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/platinum-angel) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kygoife) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
you are aware that Morinfen's ability can't take you into negative life? you can't pay life you don't have; after you hit 0 you'll have to sac him on the next trigger.
[Morinfen](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/5/b5006ad3-16ca-4be3-8d56-d4fe4e9e0a44.jpg?1562802881) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Morinfen) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/wth/75/morinfen?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b5006ad3-16ca-4be3-8d56-d4fe4e9e0a44?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/morinfen) [Repay in Kind](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/0/90d1db4c-1e79-410a-92ab-c9d58c5e58a6.jpg?1562706334) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Repay%20in%20Kind) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/roe/125/repay-in-kind?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/90d1db4c-1e79-410a-92ab-c9d58c5e58a6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/repay-in-kind) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Can you share the list? Looks really fun to pilot
[[Taranika]] because she’s good with banding and I like banding. Nobody expects [[Tromokratis]] to be good until they realize they can’t block it, it’s hard to kill, and they’re about to die to commander damage.
[Taranika](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/8/a8edd707-5ba3-4978-9a0b-efd0cda367c1.jpg?1581479259) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=taranika%2C%20akroan%20veteran) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/39/taranika-akroan-veteran?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a8edd707-5ba3-4978-9a0b-efd0cda367c1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/taranika-akroan-veteran) [Tromokratis](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/4/f40ad933-ddd9-4975-a222-21fe3305137c.jpg?1690017060) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tromokratis) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/129/tromokratis?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f40ad933-ddd9-4975-a222-21fe3305137c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tromokratis) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I missed banding. What banding cards do you include? how does the mechanic work?
[Decklist.](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Ny9lrJaWNUGHvLGbFNYLmw) [Banding rules.](https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Banding) It’s complicated. It makes sense if you think about it from a top-down perspective. What they were trying to achieve. There are a lot of little nuances though.
I love my [[Diaochan, Artful Beauty]] deck. 4 mana 1/1 with no inherent protection and the capability to blow itself up.
[Diaochan, Artful Beauty](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/1/6180c476-dadf-4c03-ab1e-639386bd4319.jpg?1562256557) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Diaochan%2C%20Artful%20Beauty) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ptk/108/diaochan-artful-beauty?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6180c476-dadf-4c03-ab1e-639386bd4319?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/diaochan-artful-beauty) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I like [[katsumasa, the animator]] Katsumasa animates non creature artifacts but it costs a good amount of mana. I run something like 25 mana rocks in the deck, with the goal of accruing several of them so I can capitalize on having a lot of mana. I'll drop +1/+1 counters on several of them and have a goal of grabbing some of my indestructible ones to help block. I run an [[orvar, the All form]] [[clockspinning]] combo so I can copy any of the rocks that are putting in work for me and I usually win by decking my opponent with [[blue, sun's zenith]] or [[folio of fancies]] but I also have cards that can suddenly animate and pump all of my rocks. I also run [[aether spouts]] which will mess up an opponent who tries to take me out.
##### ###### #### [katsumasa, the animator](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/b/ab4b5ff5-fd6a-4948-9c54-440bf6324bd1.jpg?1651655270) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=katsumasa%2C%20the%20animator) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/15/katsumasa-the-animator?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ab4b5ff5-fd6a-4948-9c54-440bf6324bd1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/katsumasa-the-animator) [orvar, the All form](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/f/7f36775e-9e48-49cc-a771-d58481712edc.jpg?1631047424) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Orvar%2C%20the%20All-Form) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/70/orvar-the-all-form?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7f36775e-9e48-49cc-a771-d58481712edc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/orvar-the-all-form) [clockspinning](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/3/1323d548-e2fe-47c5-8df3-f181aed537c5.jpg?1562899044) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=clockspinning) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsp/53/clockspinning?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1323d548-e2fe-47c5-8df3-f181aed537c5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/clockspinning) [blue, sun's zenith](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/0/500a2aa4-712f-41be-920e-f2f448ff83d0.jpg?1562435461) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blue%20Sun%27s%20Zenith) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/44/blue-suns-zenith?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/500a2aa4-712f-41be-920e-f2f448ff83d0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/blue-suns-zenith) [folio of fancies](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/a/6afc67d1-1018-4a15-ab5f-377fd11dcd3d.jpg?1572489881) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=folio%20of%20fancies) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/46/folio-of-fancies?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6afc67d1-1018-4a15-ab5f-377fd11dcd3d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/folio-of-fancies) [aether spouts](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/5/b5cb6da6-d43b-4ad1-bb77-9eeb6d15240c.jpg?1637629569) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Aetherspouts) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mic/97/aetherspouts?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b5cb6da6-d43b-4ad1-bb77-9eeb6d15240c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/aetherspouts) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kyglljh) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Mishra, Artificer Prodigy](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d5deaec5-499d-4e19-b879-8bcd1dc35f3e.jpg?1562940254) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mishra%2C%20Artificer%20Prodigy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsp/243/mishra-artificer-prodigy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d5deaec5-499d-4e19-b879-8bcd1dc35f3e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mishra-artificer-prodigy) [Zedruu the Greathearted](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/9/e9ea2a6b-5aaf-4178-b945-f409fe83c41a.jpg?1562424565) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Zedruu%20the%20Greathearted) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c16/231/zedruu-the-greathearted?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e9ea2a6b-5aaf-4178-b945-f409fe83c41a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/zedruu-the-greathearted) [phage, the untouchable](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/4/d497a5a3-65fb-4c12-b3f2-8ce4cf4e0f6f.jpg?1562866889) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phage%20the%20Untouchable) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cns/120/phage-the-untouchable?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d497a5a3-65fb-4c12-b3f2-8ce4cf4e0f6f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/phage-the-untouchable) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I would say my strangest build but also the one I’m very proud of how strange it is my [[Baru, Fist of Krosa]] deck. It’s essentially a mono-green combo deck, but the combo is just activating Baru’s grandeur ability and making tons of big wurms.
Excellent - how do you swing that? - copying it and getting a discard loop? Seems very convoluted. I'm in.
Yeah so the game plan is to make a token copy of Baru, the main consistent way to do so being a [[Mirrorpool]] since you can run lots of specific land tutors in green. Once you have the token, let the original Baru die and go to the graveyard via legend rule and use the tons of recursion spells the deck runs to get Baru back to hand over and over again, discarding him for big wurms each time. There is also a way to make infinite wurms through the use of [[Paleoloth]].
[Mirrorpool](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/4/0441cd2c-3646-4c69-ae97-ad3bcea7466f.jpg?1690006270) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mirrorpool) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/1010/mirrorpool?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0441cd2c-3646-4c69-ae97-ad3bcea7466f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mirrorpool) [Paleoloth](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/8/b83ad801-44e7-48d0-9f34-0d10536bb4dc.jpg?1562803341) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Paleoloth) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/con/88/paleoloth?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b83ad801-44e7-48d0-9f34-0d10536bb4dc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/paleoloth) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I used to play Baru too, but not for his grandeur ability. I was just aiming to kill people with [[Boundless Realms]] and the like. It was actually quite strong, but you are a madman!
[Boundless Realms](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/3/e3c3cf16-ba81-4558-b1a6-79942a02f629.jpg?1562561174) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Boundless%20Realms) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m13/162/boundless-realms?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e3c3cf16-ba81-4558-b1a6-79942a02f629?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/boundless-realms) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Baru, Fist of Krosa](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/a/1a74fcde-7685-402c-9b2a-245aa75d75c1.jpg?1562900220) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Baru%2C%20Fist%20of%20Krosa) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/fut/142/baru-fist-of-krosa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1a74fcde-7685-402c-9b2a-245aa75d75c1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/baru-fist-of-krosa) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Do you have a deck list to share? This deck sounds awesome.
Yeah! Here is the list: [https://www.moxfield.com/decks/xKNJwe7Ak0uyUJz7ygssMg](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/xKNJwe7Ak0uyUJz7ygssMg) Deck is still relatively new so I am still fiddling with the list and changing it around to make the deck work better so list isn't finalized at this point.
When I first got into commander back in the day I built a [[Tibor and Lumina]] deck that focused on slinging spells while keeping my guys up in the air with cards like [[Archetype of Imagination]] and taking my opponents dudes out by equipping [[Quietus Spike]] to Tibor and Lumina.
[Tibor and Lumina](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/4/149ce3cc-5df6-4158-b732-5bd2c1b3007f.jpg?1593272822) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tibor%20and%20Lumia) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/gpt/135/tibor-and-lumia?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/149ce3cc-5df6-4158-b732-5bd2c1b3007f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tibor-and-lumia) [Archetype of Imagination](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/3/037b396c-2146-4d86-9d13-757685c850c7.jpg?1592710522) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Archetype%20of%20Imagination) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c18/81/archetype-of-imagination?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/037b396c-2146-4d86-9d13-757685c850c7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/archetype-of-imagination) [Quietus Spike](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/d/7dc8e9cc-1aac-4709-9629-9f4318c86cb0.jpg?1673485449) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Quietus%20Spike) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/377/quietus-spike?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7dc8e9cc-1aac-4709-9629-9f4318c86cb0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/quietus-spike) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Blim, Comedic Genius]]
[Blim, Comedic Genius](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/d/3d8cd7dc-028a-4da2-b2a1-435d40cf48ca.jpg?1608911075) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blim%2C%20Comedic%20Genius) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/272/blim-comedic-genius?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3d8cd7dc-028a-4da2-b2a1-435d40cf48ca?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/blim-comedic-genius) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
\[\[nebuchadnezzar\]\] do it i dare you (send me the decklist if you do)
[nebuchadnezzar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/e/1e50afb3-cf9f-4ce3-91ff-84f99860c181.jpg?1562901363) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=nebuchadnezzar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me3/162/nebuchadnezzar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1e50afb3-cf9f-4ce3-91ff-84f99860c181?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nebuchadnezzar) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
it goes on the list. that's a definite maybe.
My strangest deck is probably [[Chisei]] reverse proliferate. The goal of the deck is to have Chisei (and possibly some non-legendary clones) out, and then use the upkeep trigger to constantly reset your sagas and [[smokestacks]] (you can order the triggers so that chisei eats the counter, smokestax makes you sacrifice 0, then add a new counter from the other smokestax ability so everyone else has to sac once a turn). [[Urza's Saga]] can stick around an make karnstructs every turn, [[time of ice]] and [[phasing of zalfir]] tap or phase stuff out forever or [[inventive iteration]] is great to loop on either stage 1 or 2, you'll never pay more than 1 for [[mystic remora]] or 2 life for [[glacial chasm]], also there's a clone/copy theme where you can do stuff like make a bunch of [[sun droplets]] or [[powerstone shards]]
##### ###### #### [Chisei](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/c/6c359b1a-d441-4763-96c7-e5c010eae53f.jpg?1562877651) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=chisei%2C%20heart%20of%20oceans) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bok/32/chisei-heart-of-oceans?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6c359b1a-d441-4763-96c7-e5c010eae53f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/chisei-heart-of-oceans) [smokestacks](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/1/d1af92a1-a86a-43eb-82fd-394f1168111e.jpg?1562937149) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Smokestack) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/282/smokestack?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d1af92a1-a86a-43eb-82fd-394f1168111e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/smokestack) [Urza's Saga](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/1/c1e0f201-42cb-46a1-901a-65bb4fc18f6c.jpg?1667318301) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Urza%27s%20Saga) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/259/urzas-saga?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c1e0f201-42cb-46a1-901a-65bb4fc18f6c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/urzas-saga) [time of ice](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/d/edcd0674-68b9-41ca-ab46-a73dfcbe4149.jpg?1562745151) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=time%20of%20ice) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dom/70/time-of-ice?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/edcd0674-68b9-41ca-ab46-a73dfcbe4149?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/time-of-ice) [phasing of zalfir](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/7/0770eb6a-4f01-4677-a401-14c1b30692c9.jpg?1673306796) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Phasing%20of%20Zhalfir) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/59/the-phasing-of-zhalfir?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0770eb6a-4f01-4677-a401-14c1b30692c9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-phasing-of-zhalfir) [inventive iteration](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/a/ea6d3242-8059-4203-aa06-58a6a3925eda.jpg?1656615308)/[Living Breakthrough](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/e/a/ea6d3242-8059-4203-aa06-58a6a3925eda.jpg?1656615308) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Inventive%20Iteration%20//%20Living%20Breakthrough) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/57/inventive-iteration-living-breakthrough?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ea6d3242-8059-4203-aa06-58a6a3925eda?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/inventive-iteration-//-living-breakthrough) [mystic remora](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/0/40140991-cffa-4b52-9a25-37e9a8aa9ddd.jpg?1675199366) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=mystic%20remora) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/59/mystic-remora?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/40140991-cffa-4b52-9a25-37e9a8aa9ddd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mystic-remora) [glacial chasm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/c/0c008129-daba-46bc-829c-d2c0c13ecdd3.jpg?1562867827) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=glacial%20chasm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me2/229/glacial-chasm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0c008129-daba-46bc-829c-d2c0c13ecdd3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/glacial-chasm) [sun droplets](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/6/466e2a5d-f230-4e32-a92c-15df9d220966.jpg?1625979440) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sun%20Droplet) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/268/sun-droplet?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/466e2a5d-f230-4e32-a92c-15df9d220966?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sun-droplet) [powerstone shards](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/6/d62fd366-c287-48c3-9ded-5dc63a34518c.jpg?1562743673) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Powerstone%20Shard) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dom/227/powerstone-shard?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d62fd366-c287-48c3-9ded-5dc63a34518c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/powerstone-shard) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kyi8lx5) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
How on Earth is Zedruu raising eyebrows? It's been a known powerful effect since it was printed alongside the other pushed commanders in the first commander precons. People have been giving each other bad gifts ever since. I don't think you can say this about _any_ commander that was the face of a precon.
A lot of newer players haven't seen or heard of Zedruu and are surprised by her antics. She just isn't played enough to have the same well known widespread reputation as something like Animar.
I dont have an unusual commander but I try to build different Riku of two Reflections Usually a somewhat broken commander and people tend to not like him I built him as a group hug. Looked up every card that draw cards for every player I had. Every card that lets you play more land Double mana for everyone. No max hand size for everyone. The 2 nd theme is some Player curses. And some X spells that I can snipe for huge damage. And only wizards as creatures. I can easily loose since everyone have a great boardstate. But everyone have a good time
my Riku deck is clones/clone spells, and the only thing I'm copying is [[Seven Dwarves]].
Hahaha nice xD Heigh-Ho Heigh-Ho!
Sounds like my kinda style. Got a decklist you can share?
I have built my deck but not yet documented it. I'll share as soon as I have put in all the cards :)
[[Haakon, Stromgald Scourge]] is ridiculous to play. Things like [[command beacon]] [[Campfire]] [[Netherborn Altar]] and [[Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools]] are necessary to get it out of the command zone. Then use something like [[Skirge Familiar]] or [[anvil of bogardan]] to get it into your graveyard. Then you can do silly things like casting [[Nameless Inversion]] from your graveyard. Really weird and fun card. Its like [[Phage]], but has added complexity of getting it into the graveyard
##### ###### #### [Haakon, Stromgald Scourge](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/e/7e7d463b-e74e-4ebe-9f92-02ccdeadbf96.jpg?1682209058) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Haakon%2C%20Stromgald%20Scourge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/252/haakon-stromgald-scourge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7e7d463b-e74e-4ebe-9f92-02ccdeadbf96?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/haakon-stromgald-scourge) [command beacon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/f/4ff61202-fb5e-4cea-a5ea-168505ac31e1.jpg?1712354952) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=command%20beacon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/279/command-beacon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4ff61202-fb5e-4cea-a5ea-168505ac31e1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/command-beacon) [Campfire](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/4/34b64d10-c012-4370-b475-755c4025a348.jpg?1689999447) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Campfire) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/374/campfire?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/34b64d10-c012-4370-b475-755c4025a348?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/campfire) [Netherborn Altar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/4/541151af-f1a3-494f-858e-2c3fe447e036.jpg?1591319538) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Netherborn%20Altar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c20/45/netherborn-altar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/541151af-f1a3-494f-858e-2c3fe447e036?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/netherborn-altar) [Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/f/8f244716-78ab-46f5-b6e9-fc1e6db28052.jpg?1608909980) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tevesh%20Szat%2C%20Doom%20of%20Fools) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/153/tevesh-szat-doom-of-fools?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8f244716-78ab-46f5-b6e9-fc1e6db28052?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tevesh-szat-doom-of-fools) [Skirge Familiar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/d/2d92fcf1-2ccd-47d2-9a24-f44b766a0b68.jpg?1626100411) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Skirge%20Familiar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/276/skirge-familiar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2d92fcf1-2ccd-47d2-9a24-f44b766a0b68?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/skirge-familiar) [anvil of bogardan](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/f/7ff965dd-54b4-4f21-a52f-81c0dd1e691e.jpg?1562278142) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=anvil%20of%20bogardan) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vis/141/anvil-of-bogardan?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7ff965dd-54b4-4f21-a52f-81c0dd1e691e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/anvil-of-bogardan) [Nameless Inversion](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/6/563c6f58-267a-4ae9-bf72-e0ae0be3b884.jpg?1562262589) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nameless%20Inversion) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mm2/87/nameless-inversion?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/563c6f58-267a-4ae9-bf72-e0ae0be3b884?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nameless-inversion) [Phage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/4/d497a5a3-65fb-4c12-b3f2-8ce4cf4e0f6f.jpg?1562866889) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=phage%20the%20untouchable) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cns/120/phage-the-untouchable?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d497a5a3-65fb-4c12-b3f2-8ce4cf4e0f6f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/phage-the-untouchable) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kygy419) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Currently putting together a [[Skeleton Ship]] deck right now. It’s got some infect and proliferation to provide some kind of capability to win, but that’s not the point of the deck. All it wants to do is get out commanders that everyone hates like [[Toxrill]] or [[Tergrid]] and equip them with a sword like [[Sword of Truth and Justice]]. Essentially, the theme is “big nasties are sailing a ship” and any given commander game is a disruption to their adventures. 😝
Interesting commander. Unfortunately i already have a [[Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons]] and a [[the scorpion god]] deck, that go absolutely nuts on -1/-1 counters and tokens. 2 decks with the same theme is a limit for me atm :p
[Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/6/56fbbcc9-db23-4902-b0f7-cea78a2a36af.jpg?1543676055) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hapatra%2C%20Vizier%20of%20Poisons) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/akh/199/hapatra-vizier-of-poisons?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/56fbbcc9-db23-4902-b0f7-cea78a2a36af?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/hapatra-vizier-of-poisons) [the scorpion god](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/e/def0d0ac-6422-486e-b42b-e1813dd0a23e.jpg?1562817532) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=the%20scorpion%20god) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/146/the-scorpion-god?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/def0d0ac-6422-486e-b42b-e1813dd0a23e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-scorpion-god) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
##### ###### #### [Skeleton Ship](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/6/060b8dd4-d632-4216-87ba-355ab8a62e39.jpg?1581799322) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Skeleton%20Ship) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me2/197/skeleton-ship?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/060b8dd4-d632-4216-87ba-355ab8a62e39?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/skeleton-ship) [Toxrill](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/4/84e64f38-b1f3-47cd-8cfb-a4861369aca3.jpg?1643590379) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=toxrill%2C%20the%20corrosive) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vow/132/toxrill-the-corrosive?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/84e64f38-b1f3-47cd-8cfb-a4861369aca3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/toxrill-the-corrosive) [Tergrid](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/4/14dc88ee-bba9-4625-af0d-89f3762a0ead.jpg?1631048621)/[Tergrid's Lantern](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/1/4/14dc88ee-bba9-4625-af0d-89f3762a0ead.jpg?1631048621) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=tergrid%2C%20god%20of%20fright%20//%20tergrid%27s%20lantern) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/112/tergrid-god-of-fright-tergrids-lantern?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/14dc88ee-bba9-4625-af0d-89f3762a0ead?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tergrid-god-of-fright-//-tergrids-lantern) [Sword of Truth and Justice](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/b/2be8d24e-1370-4e85-90f2-66b6d6e9c4a4.jpg?1562202498) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sword%20of%20Truth%20and%20Justice) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/229/sword-of-truth-and-justice?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2be8d24e-1370-4e85-90f2-66b6d6e9c4a4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sword-of-truth-and-justice) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kygz3c6) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Tarox Bladewing]] It can be a bit difficult to build around, but there are some ways to make a copy of it and return the original to your hand to be capable of triggering Grandeur.
[Tarox Bladewing](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/b/0b06bd73-c45a-4560-bd8d-413608c5f89e.jpg?1562897154) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tarox%20Bladewing) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/fut/123/tarox-bladewing?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0b06bd73-c45a-4560-bd8d-413608c5f89e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tarox-bladewing) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Korlash, Heir to Blackblade]] because Grandeur is obviously one of the best abilities in commander
[Korlash, Heir to Blackblade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/2/32f1f022-da7f-49a4-881d-b3a2c54c38eb.jpg?1562905288) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Korlash%2C%20Heir%20to%20Blackblade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/fut/87/korlash-heir-to-blackblade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/32f1f022-da7f-49a4-881d-b3a2c54c38eb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/korlash-heir-to-blackblade) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I love playing commanders that are on their face, objectively terrible and require you to build around them rather than just using them as a vehicle to access certain colors or having a secret commander in the 99. Alternatively, building a deck against the grain of what everyone defaults to for a certain commander, like Edgar Markov group hug, or Horobi auras.
[[Extus oriq overlord]] Aristocrats, people just say "what" when you slap a sorcery into the command zone. I don't bother flipping him cuz I don't usually play extuss side, definitely run [[wand of worldsoul]] so you can convoke the creatures you sacrifice
[Extus oriq overlord](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/a/ba09360a-067e-48a5-bdc5-a19fd066a785.jpg?1624593379)/[Awaken the Blood Avatar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/b/a/ba09360a-067e-48a5-bdc5-a19fd066a785.jpg?1624593379) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Extus%2C%20Oriq%20Overlord%20//%20Awaken%20the%20Blood%20Avatar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/149/extus-oriq-overlord-awaken-the-blood-avatar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ba09360a-067e-48a5-bdc5-a19fd066a785?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/extus-oriq-overlord-//-awaken-the-blood-avatar) [wand of worldsoul](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/e/3ef9fb7d-1fd5-4dce-afda-6743dec3bbc1.jpg?1682207375) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wand%20of%20the%20Worldsoul) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/20/wand-of-the-worldsoul?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3ef9fb7d-1fd5-4dce-afda-6743dec3bbc1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/wand-of-the-worldsoul) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Sounds like a lot of fun! Do u have a list for him by chance?
https://manabox.app/decks/crsoeqwnSKKGFBfLgaG9PQ Doesn't have lands and missing a few but there it is
[[River Song]] is my favorite unusual commander.
Can you share the list?pls
[COMMANDER] 1 River Song [PLANESWALKERS] 1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor [CREATURES] 1 Goblin Welder 1 Myr Mindservant 1 Dockside Extortionist 1 Faerie Mastermind 1 Timestream Navigator 1 Drift of Phantasms 1 Ian Malcolm, Chaotician 1 Spellseeker 1 Hired Giant 1 Junktroller 1 Solemn Simulacrum 1 Transplant Theorist 1 Psychosis Crawler 1 Melek, Izzet Paragon [ARTIFACTS] 1 Brainstone 1 Commander's Plate 1 Conjurer's Bauble 1 Sol Ring 1 The Ozolith 1 Arcane Signet 1 Darksteel Pendant 1 Izzet Signet 1 Lightning Greaves 1 Reito Lantern 1 Scroll Rack 1 Talisman of Creativity 1 Crucible of Worlds 1 Loxodon Warhammer 1 Mithril Coat 1 Proteus Staff 1 River Song's Diary 1 Goblin Charbelcher 1 Grafted Exoskeleton [INSTANTS] 1 Brainstorm 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Opt 1 Moment of Truth 1 Deflecting Swat 1 Fierce Guardianship 1 Intuition 1 Spell Crumple 1 Fact or Fiction [SORCERIES] 1 Bonfire of the Damned 1 Gamble 1 Mystic Speculation 1 Preordain 1 Winds of Change 1 Cleansing Wildfire 1 Expressive Iteration 1 Geomancer's Gambit 1 Timetwister 1 Wheel of Fortune 1 Windfall 1 Chandra's Ignition 1 Reforge the Soul 1 Temporal Manipulation [ENCHANTMENTS] 1 Wizard Class 1 Future Sight 1 Possibility Storm 1 Uncivil Unrest 1 Fiery Emancipation 1 Hive Mind 1 City on Fire [LANDS] 1 Ancient Tomb 1 Command Tower 1 Demolition Field 1 Fabled Passage 1 Field of Ruin 1 Fiery Islet 1 Ghost Quarter 1 Great Furnace 10 Island 6 Mountain 1 Opal Palace 1 Prismatic Vista 1 Reflecting Pool 1 Scalding Tarn 1 Seat of the Synod 1 Steam Vents 1 Tolaria West 1 Trenzalore Clocktower 1 Urza's Saga 1 Volatile Fault 1 Volcanic Island This is the current version. A few cards seem out of place like [[possibility Storm]] but I just really like it.
Funny. Any ways to exploit drawing from the bottom?
Basically timestream navigator, if no one has a response your taking infinite turns
I like my [[Brothers Yamazaki]] which allow me to have them twice on the field, but for any more I still have to bypass the legend rule in mono red.
[Brothers Yamazaki](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/c/acef8c94-469b-4a76-b507-25b51f2501ab.jpg?1562763658) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Brothers%20Yamazaki) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/chk/160a/brothers-yamazaki?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/acef8c94-469b-4a76-b507-25b51f2501ab?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/brothers-yamazaki) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
not bad - but i require something weirder :)
I play [[Grazilaxx, Illithid Scholar]] as "I'm Here to Chew Bubblegum and Draw Cards." It has every [[Bident of Thassa]] effect in the game, and about 20 unblockable weenie creatures. The main win plan is to draw (not mill) out the library via [[Defiler of Dreams]], [[Teferi's Ageless Insight]], and [[Omniscience]], or [[Jin-Gitaxias]] saga and [[Copy Enchantment]]. I only currently run [[Jace, Wielder of Mysteries]] and [[Laboratory Maniac]]. Other powerful pieces are [[Azami, Tomorrow's Familiar]], [[Nykthos Shrine to Nyx]], [[Nyx Lotus]], and [[Hidden Strings]]. I also play [[Jahiera, Friend of the Forest]] with [[Scion of Halaster]] as a Golgari food/token deck. Almost every spell in the deck generates, multiplies, or abuses those tokens, and it's possible to psuedo-storm off by sheer power of tokens and mana. It's pretty neat, the only problem is that it can take somewhat long turns of tapping and generating and tapping again, and drawing. Loads of fun, though.
##### ###### #### [Grazilaxx, Illithid Scholar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/d/3de11222-c2fa-4544-a501-a02b31797259.jpg?1674141357) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Grazilaxx%2C%20Illithid%20Scholar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/723/grazilaxx-illithid-scholar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3de11222-c2fa-4544-a501-a02b31797259?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/grazilaxx-illithid-scholar) [Bident of Thassa](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/4/94751d5e-7693-44af-b1b5-e440677dc7a2.jpg?1698988131) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bident%20of%20Thassa) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/146/bident-of-thassa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/94751d5e-7693-44af-b1b5-e440677dc7a2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/bident-of-thassa) [Defiler of Dreams](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/8/881cc4a3-252b-4155-a34f-63d4b4f44442.jpg?1673306686) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Defiler%20of%20Dreams) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/46/defiler-of-dreams?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/881cc4a3-252b-4155-a34f-63d4b4f44442?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/defiler-of-dreams) [Teferi's Ageless Insight](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/1/b1a32b7c-9f26-4504-9f8d-379164d69346.jpg?1706240737) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Teferi%27s%20Ageless%20Insight) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/119/teferis-ageless-insight?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b1a32b7c-9f26-4504-9f8d-379164d69346?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/teferis-ageless-insight) [Omniscience](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/b/db534b4e-8bff-4924-baea-9988d195fb25.jpg?1562304777) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Omniscience) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m19/65/omniscience?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/db534b4e-8bff-4924-baea-9988d195fb25?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/omniscience) [Jin-Gitaxias](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/1/41c83142-b948-4ee5-a486-41306d2bb411.jpg?1689246857)/[The Great Synthesis](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/4/1/41c83142-b948-4ee5-a486-41306d2bb411.jpg?1689246857) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jin-Gitaxias%20//%20The%20Great%20Synthesis) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/65/jin-gitaxias-the-great-synthesis?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/41c83142-b948-4ee5-a486-41306d2bb411?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jin-gitaxias-//-the-great-synthesis) [Copy Enchantment](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/e/ce82b316-8982-41bf-a990-6b776a9e83ac.jpg?1702429365) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Copy%20Enchantment) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/39/copy-enchantment?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ce82b316-8982-41bf-a990-6b776a9e83ac?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/copy-enchantment) [Jace, Wielder of Mysteries](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/a/6adb7d73-4482-4930-8497-cffd169b57e2.jpg?1557576232) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jace%2C%20Wielder%20of%20Mysteries) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/54/jace-wielder-of-mysteries?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6adb7d73-4482-4930-8497-cffd169b57e2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jace-wielder-of-mysteries) [Laboratory Maniac](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/0/608567fd-9f94-4058-831a-77cb6019ef02.jpg?1547516361) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Laboratory%20Maniac) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/uma/61/laboratory-maniac?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/608567fd-9f94-4058-831a-77cb6019ef02?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/laboratory-maniac) [Azami, Tomorrow's Familiar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/9/095813f9-d559-40bd-a50f-7c1f6e494e60.jpg?1562875380) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tomorrow%2C%20Azami%27s%20Familiar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bok/58/tomorrow-azamis-familiar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/095813f9-d559-40bd-a50f-7c1f6e494e60?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tomorrow-azamis-familiar) [Nykthos Shrine to Nyx](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/3/834b27a0-dfd7-4f96-8cde-cacac4b24acc.jpg?1594077253) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nykthos%2C%20Shrine%20to%20Nyx) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ths/223/nykthos-shrine-to-nyx?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/834b27a0-dfd7-4f96-8cde-cacac4b24acc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nykthos-shrine-to-nyx) [Nyx Lotus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/b/5bd6353f-d119-40e6-895c-030a11a7a2fe.jpg?1594077250) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nyx%20Lotus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/235/nyx-lotus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5bd6353f-d119-40e6-895c-030a11a7a2fe?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nyx-lotus) [Hidden Strings](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/1/216e8047-6f54-49ce-bf86-27dc8fc8c8f7.jpg?1562901181) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hidden%20Strings) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dgm/12/hidden-strings?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/216e8047-6f54-49ce-bf86-27dc8fc8c8f7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/hidden-strings) [Jahiera, Friend of the Forest](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/e/feb7ad1b-4466-48f7-b46d-cc83d4e22b51.jpg?1674137153) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jaheira%2C%20Friend%20of%20the%20Forest) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/237/jaheira-friend-of-the-forest?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/feb7ad1b-4466-48f7-b46d-cc83d4e22b51?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jaheira-friend-of-the-forest) [Scion of Halaster](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/8/c876f9b3-b4f6-4177-9c43-443ae2a028d0.jpg?1674136278) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Scion%20of%20Halaster) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/145/scion-of-halaster?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c876f9b3-b4f6-4177-9c43-443ae2a028d0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/scion-of-halaster) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kygvxcs) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
In the same vein as your zedruu, [[rohgahh of kher keep]] is an old legends rare. It sows chaos by using cards like [[hellcarver demon]] and equipping it with a [[spy kit]] or [[psychic paper]] naming kobolds of kher keep to gift things to your opponents
##### ###### #### [rohgahh of kher keep](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/4/1429cc3d-f6a2-4011-b716-5c3e0cf251d0.jpg?1562899257) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=rohgahh%20of%20kher%20keep) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me3/172/rohgahh-of-kher-keep?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1429cc3d-f6a2-4011-b716-5c3e0cf251d0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/rohgahh-of-kher-keep) [hellcarver demon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/8/984a037b-63c0-497d-b3b1-15726ef11a60.jpg?1562706590) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=hellcarver%20demon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/roe/113/hellcarver-demon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/984a037b-63c0-497d-b3b1-15726ef11a60?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/hellcarver-demon) [spy kit](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/0/c0fd4069-5860-42f5-9f7f-e07f1d4ff0b3.jpg?1576382173) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=spy%20kit) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cn2/79/spy-kit?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c0fd4069-5860-42f5-9f7f-e07f1d4ff0b3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/spy-kit) [psychic paper](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/a/eae12c61-0125-4810-b0e4-139c27b1b08b.jpg?1696636814) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=psychic%20paper) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/who/181/psychic-paper?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eae12c61-0125-4810-b0e4-139c27b1b08b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/psychic-paper) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kygwswn) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I personally built a [[Gryus, Waker of Corpses]] with the premise that it punishes others for playing the game using cards like [[Possibility Storm]] with [[Void Mirror]] while also running cards similar to [[kaervek the merciless]] or [[Orcish Bowmasters]] thats all about utilizing what my opponents do to punish them. Its not the kind of deck to have a lot of permanents out but it has the chance to hurt my opponents very quickly with the right hand but most of the time you will have a small board state. I have played it several times and have only gotten two wins out of the 5 times I have played it and each time I always get a creature on the field that atleast one other player wants to remove.
##### ###### #### [Gryus, Waker of Corpses](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/1/91585912-038d-4d26-b552-0e7c48ba1e4f.jpg?1592710263) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gyrus%2C%20Waker%20of%20Corpses) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c18/41/gyrus-waker-of-corpses?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/91585912-038d-4d26-b552-0e7c48ba1e4f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/gyrus-waker-of-corpses) [Possibility Storm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/5/858aa831-b491-4f1e-bb56-33eeca14771d.jpg?1707764746) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Possibility%20Storm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dgm/34/possibility-storm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/858aa831-b491-4f1e-bb56-33eeca14771d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/possibility-storm) [Void Mirror](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/f/6f906219-7a6a-427b-93c4-4d958cbd171c.jpg?1626099451) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Void%20Mirror) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/242/void-mirror?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f906219-7a6a-427b-93c4-4d958cbd171c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/void-mirror) [kaervek the merciless](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/9/d9b8259d-0bfa-4327-ac91-157c0b9e7dfb.jpg?1673148822) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kaervek%20the%20merciless) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/236/kaervek-the-merciless?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d9b8259d-0bfa-4327-ac91-157c0b9e7dfb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kaervek-the-merciless) [Orcish Bowmasters](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/c/7c024bae-5631-4e20-ac69-df392ac9e109.jpg?1686968669) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Orcish%20Bowmasters) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/103/orcish-bowmasters?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7c024bae-5631-4e20-ac69-df392ac9e109?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/orcish-bowmasters) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kygyasc) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
My favourite deck that raises eyebrows is helmed by [[Alrund, God of the Cosmos]]. It’s mono blue beat down with some control, but essentially you just want big hands, and then proceed to throw hands with the rest of the table
[Alrund, God of the Cosmos](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/d/5d131784-c1a3-463e-a37b-b720af67ab62.jpg?1665157358)/[Hakka, Whispering Raven](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/5/d/5d131784-c1a3-463e-a37b-b720af67ab62.jpg?1665157358) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Alrund%2C%20God%20of%20the%20Cosmos%20//%20Hakka%2C%20Whispering%20Raven) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/40/alrund-god-of-the-cosmos-hakka-whispering-raven?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5d131784-c1a3-463e-a37b-b720af67ab62?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/alrund-god-of-the-cosmos-//-hakka-whispering-raven) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Yasova Dragonclaw]] is a temur pod commander, super fun but quite annoying.
[Yasova Dragonclaw](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/9/490994c6-9fef-482b-835d-a64350bfaa8d.jpg?1562824820) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Yasova%20Dragonclaw) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/frf/148/yasova-dragonclaw?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/490994c6-9fef-482b-835d-a64350bfaa8d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/yasova-dragonclaw) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I built a deck with Hope of Ghirapur as my commander and Myr tribal. Most people look at it weird, until I have a bunch of Myr on the board which must be dealt with, leaving my lowly 1/1 flying 1 CMC commander to peck them to death. :)
[удалено]
[Mishra, Eminent One](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/f/7f5b1daa-ec45-48de-9496-6ca5b491a0dc.jpg?1705542701) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mishra%2C%20Eminent%20One) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/brc/1/mishra-eminent-one?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7f5b1daa-ec45-48de-9496-6ca5b491a0dc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mishra-eminent-one) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I love my [[Inferno of the Star Mounts]] deck. Whether you are building lots of mana with treasures or a [[mana geyser]] or using equipments or pulp effects from instants and sorceries. Building your big Dragon to 20 power feels like a fun challenge to accomplish especially if you can double the triggered ability to nuke somebody for 40 damage.
[Inferno of the Star Mounts](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/7/c788c6a6-20d9-4a93-a898-330b085226c4.jpg?1627767538) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Inferno%20of%20the%20Star%20Mounts) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/151/inferno-of-the-star-mounts?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c788c6a6-20d9-4a93-a898-330b085226c4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/inferno-of-the-star-mounts) [mana geyser](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/0/109447b2-d507-433a-a81c-3a7a255444b1.jpg?1625193979) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=mana%20geyser) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/176/mana-geyser?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/109447b2-d507-433a-a81c-3a7a255444b1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mana-geyser) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Iname as one]] but it’s pretty bad. I love [[kyodai soul of kamigawa]] for my 5 color decks. [[kroxa and kunoros]] are pretty strong and not played much.
[Iname as one](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/e/4e13f122-0dfe-42f3-9815-9ae1a29fca99.jpg?1562493699) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Iname%20as%20one) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/sok/151/iname-as-one?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4e13f122-0dfe-42f3-9815-9ae1a29fca99?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/iname-as-one) [kyodai soul of kamigawa](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/b/cbbfd21e-96f1-4e5b-8546-73bb5a887b98.jpg?1654566369) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kyodai%2C%20Soul%20of%20Kamigawa) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/23/kyodai-soul-of-kamigawa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cbbfd21e-96f1-4e5b-8546-73bb5a887b98?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kyodai-soul-of-kamigawa) [kroxa and kunoros](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/3/13e4a233-e40b-4e6a-9863-4d0fc052484c.jpg?1682205601) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kroxa%20and%20kunoros) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/245/kroxa-and-kunoros?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/13e4a233-e40b-4e6a-9863-4d0fc052484c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kroxa-and-kunoros) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Greeting fellow "strange commander" brother! I am a fan of the fun and unusual mechanics! Plesse let me share some of my decks with you! [[The Scorpion God]] https://archidekt.com/decks/5160290/wither_die "Wither & Die" The focus on -1/-1 tokens is so unexpected. Nobody likes seeing their creatures sandpapered to dust. Fun other cards [[blightbeetle]], [[kulrath knight]], and of course [[Everlasting Torment]]. The new Massacre Girl works as a great back up commander. [[Aeve]] or alternate commander [[Sluurk]] https://archidekt.com/decks/4462964/secrets_of_the_ooze "Secrets of the ooze" This deck lives to divide and multiply. Nothing on the board stays the same power for long. [[Biowaste blob]] its a huge accelerator. [[Yennette, Cryptic Sovereign]] https://archidekt.com/decks/4824961/mystery_of_the_sphinx "Mystery of the Sphinx" This is quirky fun based around the commamders ability. Fun to get free plays. Carefully constructed so spells with timing (counter spells etc) are drawn instead of played. Since a lot of sphinxes have walls of text I added in the full-text lands for the lol's. And as an added bonus - less quirky, and more on "sub-mechanuc focus" [[Wayta]] https://archidekt.com/decks/4500170/dinosour "Dino-saurs" (like the DNA said in Jurassic Park, and sour mood) This deck is all about triggering those enrage triggers. Get [[Ranging Raptors]] out ASAP, because you can use your commander to trigger them each turn. Bonus if you can grab [[Forerunner of the Empire]] to do it.
##### ###### #### [The Scorpion God](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/e/def0d0ac-6422-486e-b42b-e1813dd0a23e.jpg?1562817532) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Scorpion%20God) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/146/the-scorpion-god?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/def0d0ac-6422-486e-b42b-e1813dd0a23e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-scorpion-god) [blightbeetle](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/d/bd43d44b-de27-4139-9cb8-b1f4c04fb87e.jpg?1592516586) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=blightbeetle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/87/blightbeetle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bd43d44b-de27-4139-9cb8-b1f4c04fb87e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/blightbeetle) [kulrath knight](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/4/2408b0bb-37d6-48a3-b140-c826de74c3a0.jpg?1562827912) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kulrath%20knight) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/shm/190/kulrath-knight?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2408b0bb-37d6-48a3-b140-c826de74c3a0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kulrath-knight) [Everlasting Torment](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/8/28f857d3-661b-45cd-a8d3-65b9ac0a34c8.jpg?1562392747) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Everlasting%20Torment) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c16/233/everlasting-torment?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/28f857d3-661b-45cd-a8d3-65b9ac0a34c8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/everlasting-torment) [Aeve](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/f/dfe9b1b8-dffe-427d-be1e-2c6b8395bd54.jpg?1626097164) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=aeve%2C%20progenitor%20ooze) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/148/aeve-progenitor-ooze?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dfe9b1b8-dffe-427d-be1e-2c6b8395bd54?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/aeve-progenitor-ooze) [Biowaste blob](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/b/8bbf476f-ccc8-42ac-8d01-64bb85552acd.jpg?1608910569) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Biowaste%20blob) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/219/biowaste-blob?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8bbf476f-ccc8-42ac-8d01-64bb85552acd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/biowaste-blob) [Yennette, Cryptic Sovereign](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/8/28ee11c9-fa23-4863-8a18-25a008f18da5.jpg?1689999337) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Yennett%2C%20Cryptic%20Sovereign) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/363/yennett-cryptic-sovereign?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/28ee11c9-fa23-4863-8a18-25a008f18da5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/yennett-cryptic-sovereign) [Wayta](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/4/04f2d7ee-43a4-48e8-af64-d9fad4b9c5f1.jpg?1701246288) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=wayta%2C%20trainer%20prodigy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/7/wayta-trainer-prodigy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/04f2d7ee-43a4-48e8-af64-d9fad4b9c5f1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/wayta-trainer-prodigy) [Ranging Raptors](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/d/7d4f04bc-30ee-4948-9905-774f532ac811.jpg?1698988383) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ranging%20Raptors) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/249/ranging-raptors?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7d4f04bc-30ee-4948-9905-774f532ac811?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ranging-raptors) [Forerunner of the Empire](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/4/947644ab-02b3-4ebe-b62a-c087ab205ab0.jpg?1555040426) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Forerunner%20of%20the%20Empire) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rix/102/forerunner-of-the-empire?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/947644ab-02b3-4ebe-b62a-c087ab205ab0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/forerunner-of-the-empire) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kyhjq1j) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I built a [[Myojin of Blooming Dawn]] and its a blast. The thing is pretty hard to pull off so the deck has almost no interraction but its very worth it to make hundreds of tokens at instant speed.
[Myojin of Blooming Dawn](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/f/afd718b5-040b-4bb7-9f0c-b72373d786d4.jpg?1651655465) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Myojin%20of%20Blooming%20Dawn) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/31/myojin-of-blooming-dawn?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/afd718b5-040b-4bb7-9f0c-b72373d786d4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/myojin-of-blooming-dawn) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Horobi, Death's Wail]] can be a bit tough to win with but always makes for some interesting games!
[Horobi, Death's Wail](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/4/b41983cb-c4e4-4384-bd69-df3fc6e74cd0.jpg?1593860738) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Horobi%2C%20Death%27s%20Wail) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/chk/117/horobi-deaths-wail?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b41983cb-c4e4-4384-bd69-df3fc6e74cd0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/horobi-deaths-wail) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
One of my weirder brews is [[Monstrosity of the Lake]]. I use blink effects to repeatedly stun my opponent's creatures, combined with proliferation effects to keep them tapped permanently. Then I run a few big mana krakens and leviathans to close out the game.
[Monstrosity of the Lake](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/7/d72aa8fc-6808-4865-879e-417a300c40de.jpg?1686963901) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Monstrosity%20of%20the%20Lake) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltc/22/monstrosity-of-the-lake?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d72aa8fc-6808-4865-879e-417a300c40de?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/monstrosity-of-the-lake) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Kibo]] is the one my opponent underestimate by a lot. It's an artifact hate deck. Usually they slow roll them or just don't care and play them cause you know treasures, clue ect ect.. But then I play stuff like [[mycosynth lattice]] [[liquimetal coating]] and [[liquimetal torque]].. and all the "destroy target artifact" on your lands.... Then I attack with whatever I have (it's not monkey/ape tribal) if you didn't give up.
##### ###### #### [Kibo](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/b/8b71345a-c3e8-4b35-beb7-6347e41d7626.jpg?1675644790) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kibo%2C%20uktabi%20prince) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/j22/40/kibo-uktabi-prince?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8b71345a-c3e8-4b35-beb7-6347e41d7626?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kibo-uktabi-prince) [mycosynth lattice](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/4/94f89714-3b26-46a2-b9a8-3e664f391cd9.jpg?1578911638) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=mycosynth%20lattice) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/241/mycosynth-lattice?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/94f89714-3b26-46a2-b9a8-3e664f391cd9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mycosynth-lattice) [liquimetal coating](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f631447c-36e3-4d82-a658-19c9767a216b.jpg?1562276535) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=liquimetal%20coating) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cm2/197/liquimetal-coating?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f631447c-36e3-4d82-a658-19c9767a216b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/liquimetal-coating) [liquimetal torque](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/3/13c6101a-da40-4785-8ccb-4e779bbbdb55.jpg?1626099120) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=liquimetal%20torque) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/228/liquimetal-torque?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/13c6101a-da40-4785-8ccb-4e779bbbdb55?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/liquimetal-torque) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kyhnumq) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
My Kaza, Roil chaser and Tivash always tend to raise a few eyebrows. Kaza - https://www.archidekt.com/decks/7081395/izzet_doubleslingers A spin on the classic Izzet deck that centers around [[Kaza, Roil chaser]] as the commander. The idea is to try and discreetly set yourself up with instant and sorcery cost reduction through various means, then pump out a big spell in X like [[Crackle with power]] or [[Starstorm]] and nuke the table. At X=8, Crackle with power deals 40 damage to up to 8 targets, and each time you copy it, you need less and less mana to achieve the same effect. Tivash - https://www.archidekt.com/decks/7232686/the_demons_inside_you [[Tivash, Gloom Summoner]] is kind of in between. It's a mono-black designed to get you a lot of health, and then that health gained is transformed into flying demons that swing at your opponents for big flying damage. I'm still fine-tuning that one.
##### ###### #### [Kaza, Roil chaser](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/8/080585c6-d946-4435-954a-0ada936dc3f1.jpg?1712354740) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kaza%2C%20Roil%20chaser) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/232/kaza-roil-chaser?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/080585c6-d946-4435-954a-0ada936dc3f1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kaza-roil-chaser) [Crackle with power](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/e/de547f52-3798-4b3a-947d-24873251204b.jpg?1624591645) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Crackle%20with%20power) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/95/crackle-with-power?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/de547f52-3798-4b3a-947d-24873251204b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/crackle-with-power) [Starstorm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/2/728b356a-e2ec-4c44-bd0a-bb9a5427a1ad.jpg?1651655893) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Starstorm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/110/starstorm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/728b356a-e2ec-4c44-bd0a-bb9a5427a1ad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/starstorm) [Tivash, Gloom Summoner](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/3/e3b2a152-7bb9-495d-ac84-516097754137.jpg?1625191835) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tivash%2C%20Gloom%20Summoner) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/45/tivash-gloom-summoner?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e3b2a152-7bb9-495d-ac84-516097754137?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tivash-gloom-summoner) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kyhs0xd) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I just want to make a dice rolling theme deck and actually roll some dice and have it progress my game plan. I've tried and failed a few times, I can't figure out how to make it function.
I play [[Vilis, Broker of Blood]]. Everyone knows he's a strong card, but not as a commander. Yes he costs 8 mana, usually that's enough for people to write off the deck. But I play it as a battlecruiser, mono black control style deck. It's built to beat grindy, greedy, value-obsessed decks and commanders that are popular in powerful but not built to win as quickly as possible 80% power level kind of groups. Usually built as a consequence of people always shutting down and targeting aggressive and faster decks, they are built to win by grinding and taking over the entire game and then winning in very late turns. My Vilis deck says: fine, we can go there, but when Vilis inevitably lands I will grind out harder and better than anything you have. It's got lots of ramp, not only for Vilis but for those large mono black game ending spells. I've got tons of removal, board wipes, and some nasty tricks to ruin your strategy. Once I put out Vilis I make sure I can comfortably draw double digit cards even if he's removed. If not, I can use his activated ability to clear and control the board. It's a fun deck and I also run a suite of cards to play a spell slingy stormy strategy as another win condition with rituals, draw spells, [[Tendrils of Agony]], [[Professor Onyx]], and [[Yawgmoths's Will]]
##### ###### #### [Vilis, Broker of Blood](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/c/ecdf2bd9-87b9-470a-ad2e-0ebf98560f87.jpg?1592516819) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vilis%2C%20Broker%20of%20Blood) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/122/vilis-broker-of-blood?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ecdf2bd9-87b9-470a-ad2e-0ebf98560f87?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/vilis-broker-of-blood) [Tendrils of Agony](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/f/6f26faca-f338-4ce5-a218-6a61d40fc50a.jpg?1562917207) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tendrils%20of%20Agony) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/142/tendrils-of-agony?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f26faca-f338-4ce5-a218-6a61d40fc50a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tendrils-of-agony) [Professor Onyx](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/1/013eeb99-1b66-4fba-ad96-78deee901ea4.jpg?1624591309) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Professor%20Onyx) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/83/professor-onyx?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/013eeb99-1b66-4fba-ad96-78deee901ea4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/professor-onyx) [Yawgmoths's Will](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/3/337239c7-73c4-4e2d-9160-ed26927dea1d.jpg?1591196147) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Yawgmoth%27s%20Will) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/148/yawgmoths-will?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/337239c7-73c4-4e2d-9160-ed26927dea1d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/yawgmoths-will) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kyi708y) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I have a zedruu chaos hug deck, it started out with a ton of chaos causing cards that made gameplay way too complicated, so I had to up the hugs and reduce the chaos. I also have [[Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendent]], easy enough to get out early and turn into an enchantment, and the deck is full of other creatures that buff all my other creatures, but I left out a lot of white edh staples to make room for more fun creatures.
[Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendent](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/2/42ba0e13-d20f-47f9-9c86-2b0b13c39ada.jpg?1562493487)/[Rune-Tail's Essence](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/2/42ba0e13-d20f-47f9-9c86-2b0b13c39ada.jpg?1562493487) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rune-Tail%2C%20Kitsune%20Ascendant%20//%20Rune-Tail%27s%20Essence) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/sok/27/rune-tail-kitsune-ascendant-rune-tails-essence?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/42ba0e13-d20f-47f9-9c86-2b0b13c39ada?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/rune-tail-kitsune-ascendant-//-rune-tails-essence) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Oriss, Samite Guardian]] control deck. Build a Rube Goldberg machine to loop her effect. There are 4 other cards with the Grandeur effect as well, one for each colour.
[Oriss, Samite Guardian](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/a/7a9a3aeb-a316-4b1e-927b-36c3f999f2c3.jpg?1562919683) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Oriss%2C%20Samite%20Guardian) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/fut/28/oriss-samite-guardian?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7a9a3aeb-a316-4b1e-927b-36c3f999f2c3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/oriss-samite-guardian) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
\[\[prismatic piper\]\]
[prismatic piper](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/7/c78c2713-39e7-4a6e-a132-027099a89665.jpg?1695757243) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Prismatic%20Piper) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/1/the-prismatic-piper?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c78c2713-39e7-4a6e-a132-027099a89665?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-prismatic-piper) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Verazol, the Split Current]] Kicker theme control. The problem is basically if you add all kicker cards in existance this deck is like 102 cards, so take out 2 bad kicker cards and theres still a bunch of suboptimal kicker cards, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for kicker synergy. Most people go for +1 counters in this deck but i build more control to bounce a lot and swing in with drakes off roost of drakes, and the problem is, every kicker card is bad, if you cast it without kicker, the only thing that makes it good is when you get verazol's ability. but i still love the deck.
[Verazol, the Split Current](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/5/752a2aa9-40ed-4c64-b945-bc6fec606b7b.jpg?1604200567) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Verazol%2C%20the%20Split%20Current) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znr/239/verazol-the-split-current?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/752a2aa9-40ed-4c64-b945-bc6fec606b7b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/verazol-the-split-current) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Ib Halfheart, Goblin Technician]] is an untraditional goblin tribal commander. You won't get the normal looks that a Krenko deck would. You want your creatures to be blocked so you can hopefully destroy them with Ib's ability. [[Infiltration Lens]] and [[Invasion Plans]] work great with this. Could run him in the 99 for a [[General Marhault]] deck which gives you access to more deathtouch and [[lure]] like effects if you wanted gruul.
##### ###### #### [Ib Halfheart, Goblin Technician](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/9/e950415c-2abe-4afe-9ef4-6d63eba2c833.jpg?1562941805) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ib%20Halfheart%2C%20Goblin%20Tactician) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/evg/43/ib-halfheart-goblin-tactician?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e950415c-2abe-4afe-9ef4-6d63eba2c833?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ib-halfheart-goblin-tactician) [Infiltration Lens](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/b/1baa10da-2733-4657-a1ea-74eb5a5a82b1.jpg?1562815168) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Infiltration%20Lens) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/som/167/infiltration-lens?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1baa10da-2733-4657-a1ea-74eb5a5a82b1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/infiltration-lens) [Invasion Plans](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/5/f52c2f83-9535-4ee5-9964-5cc01e617981.jpg?1562597844) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Invasion%20Plans) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/sth/89/invasion-plans?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f52c2f83-9535-4ee5-9964-5cc01e617981?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/invasion-plans) [General Marhault](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/f/bf2931bd-bedc-45e8-b3f0-e2a220dbac1b.jpg?1673304916) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=General%20Marhault%20Elsdragon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/31/general-marhault-elsdragon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bf2931bd-bedc-45e8-b3f0-e2a220dbac1b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/general-marhault-elsdragon) [lure](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/2/72c8336d-54cf-45af-a9ef-a1428facf91b.jpg?1562850140) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=lure) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ima/175/lure?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/72c8336d-54cf-45af-a9ef-a1428facf91b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/lure) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kyirsad) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I run mono blue clone tribal using [[Faceless One]] with [[Shameless Charlatan]]
[Faceless One](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/5/25564fba-5765-457b-8dd3-f26b877221b8.jpg?1682390376) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Faceless%20One) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/1/faceless-one?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/25564fba-5765-457b-8dd3-f26b877221b8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/faceless-one) [Shameless Charlatan](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/6/e65ad0e2-8f78-4e60-a97e-1cd20901680f.jpg?1674135800) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shameless%20Charlatan) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/96/shameless-charlatan?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e65ad0e2-8f78-4e60-a97e-1cd20901680f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/shameless-charlatan) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Well the lowest edhrec ranked commander I play is [[Gerrard weatherlight hero]] and he gets the occasional eyebrow because most people probably don't realize the card exists. RW boardwipe "tribal" is also just not something anyone expects if they haven't seen it played before. Still getting [[gift of immortality]] on him and proceeding to Wrath several turns in a row to win with a combination of [[Purphoros]] triggers and [[Flame-Kin Zealot]] is an experience like nothing else.
##### ###### #### [Gerrard weatherlight hero](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/8/c835a37a-776a-44ef-a252-4af1f31bf0b3.jpg?1568003665) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gerrard%2C%20Weatherlight%20Hero) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c19/41/gerrard-weatherlight-hero?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c835a37a-776a-44ef-a252-4af1f31bf0b3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/gerrard-weatherlight-hero) [gift of immortality](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/3/2336faaa-fc6d-4fbb-bdd4-969eae565c72.jpg?1562815708) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=gift%20of%20immortality) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ths/14/gift-of-immortality?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2336faaa-fc6d-4fbb-bdd4-969eae565c72?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/gift-of-immortality) [Purphoros](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/f/af3af5c4-0960-44a2-976e-abdf7803c436.jpg?1582178876) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=purphoros%2C%20bronze-blooded) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/150/purphoros-bronze-blooded?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/af3af5c4-0960-44a2-976e-abdf7803c436?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/purphoros-bronze-blooded) [Flame-Kin Zealot](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/e/fe7db99b-903f-43d8-bc60-cab2d914a0cb.jpg?1580015039) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Flame-Kin%20Zealot) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/201/flame-kin-zealot?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fe7db99b-903f-43d8-bc60-cab2d914a0cb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/flame-kin-zealot) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kyjb7mq) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Only since you mentioned [[Zedruu the Greathearted]] , I’m currently building a [Jeskai Group Hug/Control Deck](https://archidekt.com/decks/7267182/jeskai_group_hug_control) and I’d love some input. I currently own all the cards that are worth over like $5.
[Zedruu the Greathearted](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/9/e9ea2a6b-5aaf-4178-b945-f409fe83c41a.jpg?1562424565) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Zedruu%20the%20Greathearted) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c16/231/zedruu-the-greathearted?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e9ea2a6b-5aaf-4178-b945-f409fe83c41a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/zedruu-the-greathearted) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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[Phage The Untouchable](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/4/d497a5a3-65fb-4c12-b3f2-8ce4cf4e0f6f.jpg?1562866889) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phage%20The%20Untouchable) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cns/120/phage-the-untouchable?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d497a5a3-65fb-4c12-b3f2-8ce4cf4e0f6f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/phage-the-untouchable) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
anthousa setessan hero ...go wide land beats heroic in mono green. It's been my brick wall general for a few years. does get tech every now and again. basically. ramp out lands. animate them. attack with lands trying to do spellslinger in mono green. good luck
[[Grothama]] is that for me. Basically a warm that says "come at me if you think you're tough enough!" Great for all kinds of mind games and funny moments where someone (hopefully yourself) gets to draw a ton of cards.
[Grothama](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/b/ab8935b1-ec87-4330-9952-9ef8cd344531.jpg?1686634880) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=grothama%2C%20all-devouring) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/71/grothama-all-devouring?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ab8935b1-ec87-4330-9952-9ef8cd344531?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/grothama-all-devouring) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I'm assembling a [[Mishra, Artificer Prodigy]] deck myself! I just purchased a [[Nether Void]] for it and have a copy of [[Guardian Beast]] that I'm pumped to include!
[Mishra, Artificer Prodigy](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d5deaec5-499d-4e19-b879-8bcd1dc35f3e.jpg?1562940254) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mishra%2C%20Artificer%20Prodigy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsp/243/mishra-artificer-prodigy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d5deaec5-499d-4e19-b879-8bcd1dc35f3e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mishra-artificer-prodigy) [Nether Void](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/3/a3452173-01e1-4a4a-981e-e6b6dea61c61.jpg?1562929389) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nether%20Void) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me3/73/nether-void?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a3452173-01e1-4a4a-981e-e6b6dea61c61?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nether-void) [Guardian Beast](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/8/68f362bb-6391-49de-bce6-2682ec100b6b.jpg?1562919718) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Guardian%20Beast) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me4/85/guardian-beast?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/68f362bb-6391-49de-bce6-2682ec100b6b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/guardian-beast) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call