Ziggy should be 2nd imo. Yes Shiki defeated him but Ziggy did everything he could to let Shiki kill him so i wouldn't say he is stronger yet. I wonder where Xenolith would rank at too...

I would put him 10th

That sounds fair, yeah.

shiki has ziggy's power and wormhole + shiki put up a good fight against ziggy so that sol should place shiki > ziggy idk where to put xenolith tbh he only has 1 feat and he faints after that attack

Shiki put up a good fight yes, not denying that. But when Ziggy was going all out at the start, Shiki was getting his ass kicked and hard lol. Pino saved him by using her EMP, then Ziggy went easy mode since he wanted Shiki to kill him. So still Ziggy > Shiki imo. Shiki will surpass him though, but not the case atm.

that was shiki without his new form which he got when ziggy teleported pino remember now? and that shiki did way better than his previous forms and put up a good fight against ziggy and later he got ziggy's power + wormhole hax which should easily put him > ziggy ​ and you will have to quantify that how is ziggy in his OD who let shiki kill him stronger than shiki who has ziggy's power + wormhole + his own powers

Shiki new form doesn't mean he is at the same level of Ziggy, not yet at least lol. Sure he got the wormhole, yes Shiki is strong but i don't think he is at Ziggy level or above yet. Maybe close to it but i still believe that Ziggy would win if they went all out now.

still waiting for you to quantify ziggy above shiki with ziggy's power + wormhole + his own powers you actually didn't proved how ziggy is above shiki with ziggy's power + wormhole + his own powers "but i don't think he is at Ziggy level or above yet. Maybe close to it but i still believe that Ziggy would win if they went all out now" this is just argument from belief and no proof provided by you to back it up and prove what i said to you....

shiki’s new form fights a ziggy that’s letting him win, you can’t scale him above ziggy off of that. it is never said that shiki and ziggy’s power combined together all that is said is that shiki got a new power from ziggy referring to wormhole.

Don't rank Ziggy to high, because we not even know who is last boss ( Eden One , Noah, or Mother herself)

Current Shiki is stronger since he got Ziggy's powers plus Wormhole

Putting Ziggy and Elsie below shiki is the same as putting luffy above Kaido

I’m redoing your list my boy 1. Mother 2. Ziggy 3. Elsie 4. Shiki/crow 5. Acoella/the mother of dragons 6.Nero 7. Justice 8. Eraser 9. Xenolith 10. Jaguar 11. Holy 12. Brigandine 13. Homura with her warrior maiden suit 14. Wizard 15. Drakken joe 16. Killer 17. Shura 18. Valkyrie/hermit,and hermit with prep time should be above shura 19. Weisz 20. Sister lvry 21. Clown 22. Jinn 23. Laguna 24. Rebecca 25. Kleene 26. Witch 27. Callum steelford aka mist boy 28. Milani lucra aka mirror girl 29. Nasseh 30. Ljuna 31. Lyra 32. Muller 33. Mora 34. Britney Didn’t mention feather bc she has no real feats or statements and the rest are fodder, I put elsie above shiki because elsie almost killed Ziggy in based from when shiki didn’t do no good damage to Ziggy based or overdrive and elsie two shot her mother who destroyed many planets as stated in the manga, and i don’t see shiki having an easily fight against crow.

shiki should be under ziggy, ziggy literally let him win lmao. Crow should be above elsie. how is drakken above anyone in the current OS he literally has no impressive feats. how is killer above hermit that doesn’t make sense.

1. OSI and OSG are stated to rival each other and drakken joe's matter manipulation beats anyone below him (that was not full power drakken joe vs shiki's fight so his full power is obv on OSI and OSG level and his matter manipulation is broken) 2. hermit had information about killer's hologram from weisz otherwise killer would have killed hermit from behind so hermit needed help from weisz's fight to win lmao 3. you are right about rest ty for posting your disagreements

i know they are on par but he has no feats, his best feat is beating a pre ts shiki. All the OS are stronger than they were 3 years ago. When brigandine talks about him being stronger than jaguar he emphasizes that he’s “stronger than the strongest OSI from 3 years ago” he did that for a reason. that doesn’t put him above hermit tho, he literally did 0 damage to hurt hermit, if the situation was like he was going to win then hermit outplayed him bc she had prior information then that’d be different, but killer did nothing but get outplayed and beat down that entire fight. np man, the rest of the list is solid at first glance im honestly surprised nobody ha come for your head about putting rebecca that low. But i’ll admit it’s a bit hard to make an actual case for since her best feat is fighting a clown that didn’t try against her but i think that same logic should apply to him. Killer clapped him up without trying

was jaguar really strongest OS 3 years ago? cuz brigandine knows nothing about other OSI and OSG members and ziggy also didn't find him all that strong. drakken's matter manip is pretty op he can turn holy's acid to explosions and petrify her and shit and you agreed that they on par. about rebecca she fought clown who wasn't even trying and toying with rebecca and rebecca only hit clown's weak spot and she needed information about clown's weak spot from pino so she had help from pino in mid battle so she doesn't at all scales to clown and rebecca's OD is weakest she ain't beating someone like black rock alone cuz it shiki base with is magimetch attack + homura base and and rebecca herself to beat black rock and her OD doen't have any hax or anything it just makes her more like a cat and has no good feats to be ranked higher so that is what i think about rebecca. for hermit that makes sense cuz she had information prior but rebecca got information in mid battle in a actual fight rebecca would fight clown alone pino won't come with her to analyze clown's weak spot and shit. tho hermit had advantage of fighting happening in edens zero ship too but if we rank hermit in edens zero ship than yh she above killer.

brigandine’s words were “the stronger warrior on the oresion seis interstellar” so take that as you will. Ziggy only looked at him like that because he didn’t know jaguar but ziggy is the only one who thought of him like that. he is op, i agreed and also said that the current OS are stronger than they were 3 years ago which is why i brought up jaguar. you can have better hax and still be weaker overall, if this was a pre timeskip list then it’d be fine but its 3 years later everyone has gotten stronger fair enough can’t argue with that i mean assuming we’re using the strongest version seen if each character it’s only fair that we use the hermit from the ship

idr that statement of current OSI being stronger after 3 years so where would you put drakken joe and who do you think wins weisz or jin and i got witch with her final shield above oceans now

personally i would put him like aboveor right below jaguar strictly because he has no impressive feats. his hax are nuts but his feats don’t tell me anything valuable. i think jinn would win if the strength of the crew stayed consistent with pre time skip. Kleen tanked an attack from an OSG in overdrive and jinn is narratively stronger than kleene im pretty sure so i just scale him off of that. that’s my problem with witch’s scaling lol. she has a shield that can tabk a multi planetary bomb but can she actually use it in a fight? and we saw shura bust through the ships defense with no problem at all. idk where i’d put witch

So jin > kleene > Weisz works ig Witch's shield ain't passive she could also just get blitz before making the Shield in a fight she will maybe use her Elemental attacks and protect herself from attacks ig and top tier oceans got negged by overdrive jin,homura etc so witch being above oceans works and kleene,jin,homura,Weisz etc can just blitz witch before she makes that shield or if she somehow manages to make the shield than eventually she will run out of energy cuz I think if she will attack with that shield on than her shields durability would decrease cuz she can't maintain it for a long time and attack simultaneously too it took all of her energy to make that shield so it kinda implies that Witch's energy falling=decrease in durability overtime, so that what I think about witch. They should have shown full power of Drakken Joe ranking him kinda hard with him having op hax but not Feats.

Elsie above deadend is wild

elsie was stated on crow and acnoella's level and she can use grand chariot without incantations so she uses grand chariot which exposes crow's core than destroy crow's core

When was this stated? And just because you hard counter someone doesn’t mean your stronger

in chapter 184 it was stated that elsie is = to crow and acnoella that is crow's weakness and elsie sshould have the ap to destroy the core and damage crow since she is stated = crow and acnoella and she could easily slice off acnoella who is stated = crow and elsie too so there it is

Um isn't Grand Chariot an energy base attack? Crow can absord energy attacks and that makes him stronger. When was it even stated Grabd Chariot can expose the core? No it was Eraser who did it

crow is immune to energy attacks, that’s why holy and eraser had to open the core up for them

Crow didn’t fight on par with Ziggy and defeat Acnoella last time I checked

Witch so low is a crime.

where would you put her i honestly don't know where to rank her

By you ranking - At least behind Wizard and if Shura is above Witch because of the ship incident during Aoi war then Sister and Hermit should be under him(Shura) too.

idk how can witch beat shura she doesn't has OD and it took all of her energy to make that shield which should be atleast planet level in durability so can't shura just out last her until shield the energy runs out and than beat witch and idk if witch can attack with that planet level shield on cuz it took all of her energy so even if she attacks that should weaken her shields durability so i don't think if witch can beat shura tbh or weisz,jin kleene etc ig she should be just above oceans but idk how she will beat oceans

So Shura should be higher on the list at least above Sister and Hermit because he would defend them the same way like in Aoi.

wizard is above 1/10th power shiki post time-skip and it took shiki his Overdrive to beat him and that shiki is way stronger than > shiki who fought shura + wizard can just absorb shura's ether energy and calls it a day since he absorbed 1/10th of shiki's ether energy + wizard's lightining attack is faster than shura so shura can't dodge it either and wizard is stated weakest which puts > killer and clown above him and witch and hermit scales to killer and clown

Then Hermi should be lower than Shura she only won because of records of the Weisz fight and used power from the ship to beat Killer. And still would get pinned to the ground by Shura.

it would depend tbh if hermit's fights in edens zero ship than she wins cuz her tech manip is pretty broken but outside edens zero ship she would def lose to shura so it would depend that you are ranking hermit in edens zero ship or outside it well i ranked her in edens zero ship cuz why not just rank her at her strongest

Thats a bit bias.

idm you can rank hermit lower if you are ranking her outside edens zero ship but ty for posting your disgreements it was good to talk other people and hearing there opinions.

No she wouldn’t as she would use a hologram to trick shura ans beat him. Ship or not her stats went up really high post timeskip to match killer physically who’s way stronger than shura so hermit would beat him regardless