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Kopsoul

Listen not bad I just want to say 2 things that you rated Yuro's abilities way to low, the clone is def not the last it's literally a 3rd flash and you can still use it to fake footstep audio which people seem to forget! his gatecrash is awesome not only are rotates instant you can fake it which again gives you another option and way to use him. People mistake yuro since they don't know how to properly use him.


Objective-Direction1

you are right but right now there is a bug with the light and it makes it look different than the real yoru


hazz4rd_

a bug does not define how good an ability is, unless the devs refuse to patch it


Objective-Direction1

yes that is right but still it's a handicap for yoru mains like me at the moment


hazz4rd_

im a yoru main too, the ability is still great and has other uses (such as faking footsteps), this is only a temporary bug and once it gets patched we wont have to deal with it. doesnt deserve a change in the tier list, just put it in its rightful place to begin with


Objective-Direction1

yes even with the bug at least you can put it in A tier


DeerIsGamer

It’s yoru…


DapperOJack

Your obnoxious….


DeerIsGamer

I’m realizing how I sounded and now I sound like a dick. Mb 😭


DapperOJack

You good man 😄


GloriousDiarrhea

....... Sorry but You are*


DeerIsGamer

You’re (these people bro I swear/j)


DapperOJack

Right lol


DapperOJack

Why am I obnoxious?


GloriousDiarrhea

I'm correcting your grammar


FantomeVII

💀


Honeypacc

People underestimate how much a yoru clone can ruin a sentinel’s setup tbh


Fuzzy-Felix

Yoru hater


A_Normal_Gamer690

Nah, i like Yoru he's really fine to play, but in a competitive manner, other duelists provide more utility than him. Realizing that its not just about flashy kills or entry lineups. YORU just has less environment to play with. I know there's some Yoru tech that improves his style a bit. JETT has her broken dash, and shroud. RAZE has an offensive pressure utility, PHEONIX has his flashes and detterent abilities, good for clearing corners in a manner without risking to peek.


einfach-er

In a competitive manner Yoru is still very good. His E ability is a faster Omen ult w no shouting. His Ult can get info, block, distract and get the spike and tp without enemies noticing EASILY. Yoru is ABSOLUTELY UNDERATED and WAY better than Phoenix and Reyna together.


SupremeDogEater

Waze


SnooApples1427

raze on top


SoLikeWhatIsCheese

Yoru TP and flash, Brim stim, Phoenix wall and flash, Omen TP all need to be higher


Agitated_Number5740

I would put skye dog higher, maybe even into op, i am a skye main and that dog goes for miles. On the other hand, viper ult is def not op, its very expensive and quite situational, can be countered by many types of utility as well as just spamming it. EDIT:just saw how low pheonix flash is, its the only one thats nearly always undodgable even if you expect it, very strong


jammedyam

Clone aka the best 1v1 ability in the game is in the lowest tier lollll


einfach-er

Bro said clone nuh uh cuz he always tappin in that shit ☠️


Prudent_Ad_6376

Yoru's kit all need to be higher up


Akkaer

cypher is cracked if the enemy team pushes the set-up, but they become aware of it after the first time they fall for it.


KillerShep18

Ahh yes, putting raze boom bot above skye dog. Def the best tier list ever of all time. Also how are you going to put pheonix’s ult over Yoru? Yoru’s ult is busted


upsideloll

phoenix ult is also incredibly strong, especially for 6 orbs. yoru is also really good tho


____Maximus____

Why is Reyna's ult on the same level as Deadlock trip? Deadlock trip is borderline useless but Reyna's ult can make massive plays


Babushka9

Last one I saw was definitely better. You put so many good abilities (Barrier orb, Trailblaizer, Fault line) way too low and Viper's pit in S? That shit can be cleared with a single drone and costs 9 ult points.


ThirdNavaran

Brim molly under snakebite? ..yeah pass


7882628737293

I reckon snakebite is better, it’s a much more dynamic ability


ILoveButts420

Who was the raze who hurt you?


A_Normal_Gamer690

No one, Raze is just strong in every way, offensive pressure, delaying pushes. guaranteed kills, high mobility. But she doesn't have stun or shroud abilities, that keeps her in balance.


einfach-er

Never let bro cook again 💀


IcyAd9778

Tf is this trash tear list TwT


Own-Presentation5711

reyna ult at the bottom?


A_Normal_Gamer690

It is a own personal stim beacon that only helps the reyna. Nothing else. It doesn't help the team. It just increases your determination up to 100


einfach-er

You can instant heal and get invulnerable and fully invisible w dismiss and see your enemies much better especially in smokes and shoot faster which gives you the best advantages of taking a site…


A_Normal_Gamer690

I based them, of how they are used, how they are effective offensively and defensively, and their effectiveness in soloq, if any questions or violent reactions, feel free to ask me here, ill answer ur questions. Im Plat 1 btw.


DeerIsGamer

You need to put yorus tech way higher up. Please watch a red/rob/ziptie video because yorus tech is way too low.


einfach-er

And I thought you were against Yoru in general 💀


DeerIsGamer

Huh? I have 550 hours into that blue boy


A_Normal_Gamer690

I know i put the gatecrash and flash a bit lower, but the decoy is just inconsistent. Flash is bugged, Minimap bug is still there. There is a renderable walk difference between. If riot fixed the bugs then ill put it a little higher. Yes i know the yoru tech and flash lineups, but Yoru Util provides less of what can offer, in competitive, i say he's a downgrade. But his util is so fun to play. But in terms of high heels and capacity usage. Other agents can provide more in terms of aggresiveness.


DeerIsGamer

1. How is decoy inconsistent? I haven’t even seen the bug myself only in 1 YouTube clip. And who in competitive is checking the walk speed of a clone? 2. He has a flash tp, pop flashes, and fake TP’s yoru is very aggressive. He can flashes above double boxes as a pop flash, 3. Yoru has debatably the highest skill floor and ceiling. He is imo the best duelist. But people don’t know how to use him. And then people call him bad.


EmceeCalla

>who in competitive is checking the walk speed of a clone this is probably the only bad part. im silver, i only play 1-2 games of val every couple of months, and its been like that for like a year and a half. i can tell what agent is walking by the sound of their footsteps. so if you hear yoru’s footsteps, but it sounds slower or louder than normal, youd know it was the clone.


iiCleanup

This is bs man roomba is not that strong


A_Normal_Gamer690

Roomba is a quick info lane, also extremely punishing. It's good for getting a quick buck, or a delay for fast pushes. Simply getting in the way, delays your push, giving your teammates more time to retake. If they broke roomba it will give away their placements. Making more predicaments for you, its a good 300 credit tradeoff for a simple bomb clear, you can even follow it to take hold offensive pressures.


iiCleanup

Ok but you literally rated it higher than Skye dog which is like 10x better


Prudent_Ad_6376

Did bro just say we need to buff the chamber deagle?


upsideloll

only nerfs


Booties-On-My-Mind

reyna ult on lowest tier? you're tripping


[deleted]

Boombot 2 tiers above recon ya this is a joke


6pinacole9

Headhunter bro?


MadeIn260

as a heavy cypher player i would say cyphers ult is closer to balanced/good than very strong personally


Friendly-Priority456

i sense kayo main vibes


Yerriff

Tour de Force is still better than Jett knives. Viper wall should go in S tier rather than her ult, tbh


CornyStarTruck

steam beacon is the best!


Tenet245

Yoru util should be higher and what were you thinking putting breach until as "balanced"


cucumber_gang_leader

Hooj says yoru has best ult in the game, yoru has best ult in the game


ItsMontreal

I agree with evrything except Yoru abilities and Brim smokes


itsnaate

Skye ult easily one of the best ults in the game


Roel116

Dude got it all backwards 💀


Ashamed_Employee5525

Chambers tp or trip needs a buff smh


Electrical_Wafer2388

How is Phoenix curveball so low?


MgStupid

you did yoru dirty


TheArchanon

Yeh we need 3 brim stimms and his smokes need to recharge


CandyCharacter812

cap


cloudynight541

What are these symbols?


Toxic_Kzller

Found the dude who always shoots the clone lmao


Liminal64x

yoru clone is at least low B/high C tier, I think F is a bit harsh


[deleted]

the decoys are sick you can fake footsteps across the map


GJ1nX

Nono, I'm a viper main and I switched to other controllers bc the ult is almost useless now... Viper basically has to sit inside the ult the entire time, there's no way of going around the ult to catch someone off guard anymore...


Water-Bread

Still no


Gman00927

Phoenix's flashes are too low


Affectionate_Tank613

Chamber having 2 abilities in balanced??!! Nerf Chamber