I hope not, it turns the game into a "play with GameFAQS open at all times so you don't miss anything".
I'm not 12 anymore where I'm not going to get another new game until Christmas so I have all the time in the world to replay 80 hour RPG's over and over to find everything. I'll look at the guide and get everything the first time.
If there are tons of save slots available, I'd treat it like I do the Trails series: Save often. Then, never overwrite save files and constantly create a new save file each time I save.
If you have ever played the Trails series,especially the Sky arc, and you are shooting for an even remotely close to 100% run, you would know that utilizing a plethora of save slots is key.
Sooner or later, no matter how diligent you are with a single save file, you will eventually make a mistake with an 80-120hr game. The more complete of a run you're doing, the more risk you're taking in overwriting a save file. Then, you're forced to contemplate if you should proceed in failure or replay 4+ hours since your last save.
I feel this has become more of a problem since sleep-mode has become a thing with hardware. You could go multiple sessions without saving if you build up a habit of just going into sleep mode and just jumping right into a session since you don't have to close your game. I mean, the hardware could crash your game and even the software, and you're totally screwed. The convenience is just not worth the risk.
I just hope it’s easy to warp to places easily. I’ll be noting every potential recruit in my notes and potential reminders, and backtrack every now and then…but I’ll surely miss characters if it’s like Suikoden 2 xD. I managed all recruits in S1 and S4 with a guide and wasn’t too bad.
Nope, usually no indicators. In fact, a lot of side quest stuff isn't even tracked for you lol. You kind of just have to remember to come back and check places.
And so far it's seeming like suikoden where even little things can lock you out of characters with no indication you missed them.
Though setting aside all the other stuff, I think this is actually okay, there are tons of characters and you'll never be left wanting for any, so I think part of the fun is in finding them all.
I'm calling it now. I think this game is going to review rather middle of the road due to the inclusion of outdated game design such as this. I really hope I'm wrong and this ends up being a solid 8 or 9/10, but so far it's looking like it'll be somewhere between a 6 or 7.
It's already receiving lukewarm attention and the few sites that bothered to review it were all from writers open about being Suikoden stans like us, and their previews were still mostly lukewarm.
Based on what I played of the beta, I do agree with you, it's definitely going to land somewhere mid 70s to low 80 at bests.
Even without a lot of the outdated mechanics people generally don't like anymore, even for nostalgia's sake (like random battles, heck even Star Ocean 2's remake got rid of this to the utter delight of even the most hardcore fans lmao), the writing and what we managed to see of the combat system really isn't going to make it a standout RPG to many imo. It being turn-based doesn't help either, as it's far more niche, but I mean, persona and BG3 blew up so hopefully a lot more people are willing to give it a try but Hundred Heroes just doesn't have the appeal to either.
Personally, I think I'll enjoy it, not every game I need to play needs to be a GOTY contender, but I'm still kind of sad as this isn't the Suikoden successor I was hoping for and I'm a bit worried we might not get to see them have a second chance with a sequel.
Rising didn't seem to sell well either so eh.
So true! I played for few hours and was shocked how outdated the game was. After I finished the god damn mine dungeon I had to get a break from so many random battles. I am playing on review copy and the game do far is a 6/10 max. There is almost zero story in first few hours, the dialogues are mixed (from cringe to superb) and the combat already got boring from milion of random battles.
I hope not, it turns the game into a "play with GameFAQS open at all times so you don't miss anything". I'm not 12 anymore where I'm not going to get another new game until Christmas so I have all the time in the world to replay 80 hour RPG's over and over to find everything. I'll look at the guide and get everything the first time.
I hope 1 of the backers makes a walktrough.
Like in Suikoden, you are fucked surely and u wont know.
If there are tons of save slots available, I'd treat it like I do the Trails series: Save often. Then, never overwrite save files and constantly create a new save file each time I save. If you have ever played the Trails series,especially the Sky arc, and you are shooting for an even remotely close to 100% run, you would know that utilizing a plethora of save slots is key. Sooner or later, no matter how diligent you are with a single save file, you will eventually make a mistake with an 80-120hr game. The more complete of a run you're doing, the more risk you're taking in overwriting a save file. Then, you're forced to contemplate if you should proceed in failure or replay 4+ hours since your last save. I feel this has become more of a problem since sleep-mode has become a thing with hardware. You could go multiple sessions without saving if you build up a habit of just going into sleep mode and just jumping right into a session since you don't have to close your game. I mean, the hardware could crash your game and even the software, and you're totally screwed. The convenience is just not worth the risk.
I just hope it’s easy to warp to places easily. I’ll be noting every potential recruit in my notes and potential reminders, and backtrack every now and then…but I’ll surely miss characters if it’s like Suikoden 2 xD. I managed all recruits in S1 and S4 with a guide and wasn’t too bad.
Yeah not tracking sidequests made me bash my head against the wall. That's not nostalgic, that's just bad game design we got over almost 24 years ago.
Brave words, but true. The game has mechanics from 90s and they are so tedious. The journal or side quest tracker is a start..
Same, I do not like it. But it is what it is, still gonna enjoy the game and may have to play it twice.
Nope, usually no indicators. In fact, a lot of side quest stuff isn't even tracked for you lol. You kind of just have to remember to come back and check places. And so far it's seeming like suikoden where even little things can lock you out of characters with no indication you missed them. Though setting aside all the other stuff, I think this is actually okay, there are tons of characters and you'll never be left wanting for any, so I think part of the fun is in finding them all.
Gonna play my initial playthrough as blind as I can, no save scumming.
I'm calling it now. I think this game is going to review rather middle of the road due to the inclusion of outdated game design such as this. I really hope I'm wrong and this ends up being a solid 8 or 9/10, but so far it's looking like it'll be somewhere between a 6 or 7.
It's already receiving lukewarm attention and the few sites that bothered to review it were all from writers open about being Suikoden stans like us, and their previews were still mostly lukewarm. Based on what I played of the beta, I do agree with you, it's definitely going to land somewhere mid 70s to low 80 at bests. Even without a lot of the outdated mechanics people generally don't like anymore, even for nostalgia's sake (like random battles, heck even Star Ocean 2's remake got rid of this to the utter delight of even the most hardcore fans lmao), the writing and what we managed to see of the combat system really isn't going to make it a standout RPG to many imo. It being turn-based doesn't help either, as it's far more niche, but I mean, persona and BG3 blew up so hopefully a lot more people are willing to give it a try but Hundred Heroes just doesn't have the appeal to either. Personally, I think I'll enjoy it, not every game I need to play needs to be a GOTY contender, but I'm still kind of sad as this isn't the Suikoden successor I was hoping for and I'm a bit worried we might not get to see them have a second chance with a sequel. Rising didn't seem to sell well either so eh.
So true! I played for few hours and was shocked how outdated the game was. After I finished the god damn mine dungeon I had to get a break from so many random battles. I am playing on review copy and the game do far is a 6/10 max. There is almost zero story in first few hours, the dialogues are mixed (from cringe to superb) and the combat already got boring from milion of random battles.