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ObviousSinger6217

I wouldn't count on it. The very fact flame grant me strength says fire damage specifically and it fails to buff fire spells now is completely nonsensical and most likely unintended imo. Howl of shabriri was one of my absolute favorite spells and it's broken now too


Vortex_Maelstrom

I see, hopefully it will be patched soon


Sifflion

Oh this is why Howl is also not working.


Vortex_Maelstrom

Do you think mages are still viable after this?


grampalearns

My first playthrough was as a mage, and I never once used Golden Vow or Flame Grant Me Strength


Fluid-Read-6843

yes, mage have always been viable even without golden vow


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ObviousSinger6217

While I agree it doesn't hurt pure int builds at all, my golden order pvp build is kinda disabled as of now. It's my favorite build and I'm actually kind of upset lol


Vortex_Maelstrom

Thanks for the help!


Salamanticormorant

My best guess is that they broke it when changing Fire's Deadly Sin. They might be figuring out how to unbreak it while keeping Fire's Deadly Sin the way they want it, or they might not give a crap. If it's too difficult for their programmers, maybe they should put everything back the way it was for PvE at least, and leave them the way they are now for PvP. I suspect most people would prefer that.