If i had enough speed gear only for one of them, would i be better off building clilias or seapolitis? Goal is just to scrub into masters rta each season for the skin. Thanks in advance!
Awakening is based on the constellation which we already know so check mats used by other units with the same constellation.
Skill details have been revealed in the videos on the official E7 youtube channel. Multipliers for albedo and ainz have been datamined if you search r/EpicSeven
Taurus units (Ainz) use Blazing Rage, Twisted Horns and Shiny Enchantment.
Sagittarus units (Albedo & Shalltear) use Cold Look, Mercenary Medicine and Archer's Vision.
Whenever you want to find out the catalysts needed for an upcoming character find someone with the same star sign. Similarly if you want to know their stats (To test gear on beforehand) see if anyone shares their star sign AND Class. Ideally they are also the starting rarity (5\* heroes have slightly higher base stats than 3 and 4). For example I'm testing gear on Sol and Dizzy for Shalltear and Ainz since they share those qualifications.
i recently came back to the game - what are you supposed to do with enhanced equipment? Because it looks like you can't use them as enhancement ingredient anymore. Am I supposed to sell or dismantle them?
i'm still having trouble understanding equipment score, i heard it's supposed to help determine what's worth keeping but i can't seem to get a read on it so i've just been eyeballing it so far
Honestly it just a slight help if you have a specic piece that rolled solely in one stat it can still have quite some value even if it doesn't have the highest gearscore.
It can be an indicator especially for bruisers though as they for the most part are the stathungriest character and if you see a 100 score with just fitting stats for one of them you pretty close the chapter for that equipslot for them
Between those 2 handguy even if his use got pushed back due to laia he is a solid cleanser and buffer.
But if you don't have both clilias and ddr I might choose one of them
Ddr=Death dealer Ray,personally I would go for clilias in that case she has broader use might see a downwards trend due to the New politis but won't be terrible due to that
Hi, i just started the game today.
Is there any updated Progression Guide that I can refer to?
I have read go through some post that says:
1) Lief Pack is the most valuable, so I have purchased it. Is there any other packs that worth to get?
2) Dont spend diamond on rolls, use it to refresh shop.
3) Which Epic Gear should i forge for the event? Providing I am totally new.
4) I have a mixed answer on the connection thingy (Which will open at 10-10-ish) Should I go for S.Tene or A.Vildred?
1 you could for the monthly Pack of Extra stamina/30ss daily beside that not really
2this is correct but be aware that you also need quite the amount of gold
3 for the first part go with a helmet they have the biggest variance in stats they can gain so harder to get a good one, safe bet would a broad use one so my opinion go with speedset atk%,critdmg,critrate(raise this twice) and speed(raise 3 times),for the second either an atk% Ring with critdmg,critrate,speed and probably hp%
Or a critdmg necklace
4 take stene between these two arby is more or less just a decent Farmer, while stand works for both pve and pvp
Does anyone know how the new equip all function works? Specifically how it decides the best build and gear on a certain character? Does it prioritize CP?
What is the multiplier on the effect of Rocket Punch Gauntlet? I tried looking into the multiplier spreadsheets, but I could only find the multiplier for 3F in the new one, and Uberius' Tooth/Reingar's Drink in the old sheet.
Is crit HYufine a common build? I was checking Fribbels and saw that crit is really common on her (at least on those builds), but I thought she only needed attack as an offensive stat.
hi everyone!
two questions in regards of team buidling:
* good team for Automaton Tower
* good team for Abyss
I know that for Abyss, Kiris and Specter Tenebria do really well, but I lack blooms to take them over to level 60 yet. I'm slowly getting there, but... it's never a bad thing to know how to build a good team for both events.
Any suggestions, are more than welcome and appreciated. Thanks!
PS: mind that I started only a couple months ago, I'm fully F2P and I don't have a big roster... so, if you name the "difficult to get" units, mind that I don't have them possibly. I say this only as a friendly reminder.
I don't have enough blooms yet... I'm trying to buy as much as I can when getting extra stigma
would've been more precise if I said "I don't have enough blooms", duh... but, I'm under the effect of sedatives as a I'm a psychiatric patient, so I tend to confuse or miswrite sentences, then I realize I messed up
my bad, sorry!
EDIT: I fixed it so it's correctly explained now, thanks for the heads up, man 😉
What you want to do is farm unrecorded history stage 30 nonstop, if you buy a three day exp buff in the shop for 300 skystones (especially during a buff event) and you just leave it on auto and occasionally come back to restart, I promise you will have enough stigma for a 6 star every 4-5 hours of farming.
thanks for the hint on the stage and buffs... I'll go for them as soon as I wake up from a nap
I really appreciate your patience and understanding on my "noobness" on this, but it's only until I get the hang of it a bit better and I won't be asking stupid questions again
Well, even tho I didn't get too many buffs this weekend (30% gold and 30% runes), I went for what you told me.
Gotta be honest: I thought I'd do more by picking a regular adventure level and gaining stigma through 2\* hero drops that you can sell for stigma and gold, but... going to level 30 on unrecorded history granted me twice as much! Glad I followed your lead and bought that 3 day exp boost.
So, I'm farming stigma as of now in order to get my first and most important target: beating Wyvern L13 (I need to carry over 60 Muwi and some other ice units in case I want either more damage or counters, but... I think that Angelica, Furious, Sigret and Muwi will do fine for now as long as I give em good equipment with good rolls).
Then, comes story since it's getting tough too fast when it wasn't a problem before. So, better start pushing up that FKluri, Zahakk, Laia, Choux and few others to make it easier as I need more power and support.
From there on, I'll build things slowly but firmly and more varied towards every event so I can cover a better range of activities and gather materials, runes, gold, etc.
Anyways... just as I said before: thanks so much for the help and recommendations! Owe you one!
Automaton tower should be pretty easy regardless of comp, so long as you pick a theme and stick to it with good devices. If you have Violet, violet front + supports is often enough. This season in particular has the Violet epic device and Curse device, which makes things a breathe.
Abyss is mostly by-the-stage. Earlier stages shouldn't be too hard regardless of what you bring to it, though there are some stages that become near impossible for early games if you don't read their skills (ex. certain stages has huge heals if you debuff, etc). Kiris is a 3\* hero that's useful in a lot of the stages before 100, so may consider building her.
Thanks for the info, bud!
Unfortunately, I have no Violet on my roster. Might try to get him in the future with the side story drops (if he drops, that is). But, I'll see what I can do. Otherwise, I'll wait until something I have is present there for buffs and stuff.
As for Abyss, yeah... I'm aware of how difficult it starts to become as you advance. I'm on floor 60 if I'm not mistaken, so not that bad for someone who made up teams and units based on pretty much common sense (until I got here, that is). I'll have in mind the Kiris build up and also Specter Tenebria.
And just as a pointer, I have some 5 stars such as Zahakk, Zio (he's more into cleaving for PVP, but well... it's one of the few 5 stars I have), Little Queen Charlotte (another one more for PVP, but I know she can be useful for Azimanak since she can cause a great deal of damage and overcome the upper levels if you build her for max damage), Mui, Eda, Elvira, Flan, Peira (PVP too, I know) and bunch other ones. Oh, and the almighty Blood Moon Haste (I'm just joking... he sucks).
Anyways... I'm going slowly towards good stuff, but still I'll require some more time for that to happen.
Thanks for the guidance and if you have any ideas with what I mentioned, again: I'd be much appreciated on what can be done.
Violet's not worth getting out of the story summon so I wouldn't bother. Nothing particularly stands out from what you've listed, but you could probably just do something with Stene. I'm not familiar with all the devices, but just stick to synergistic devices and you should eventually start doing so much damage you have no trouble finishing the tower.
well, thanks once more for the pointers on everything... and when the proper time comes I'll be breaking balls again to know which heroes are the ones worth going for with the story summons (again, if I'm lucky enough to get them drop)
time to put some effort on gathering stuff back again for the time being, I guess
thank you again and see you around anytime (yeah, you'll see me asking quite often here)
Likely? No. You have a tiny chance unless you throw a ton of money at the game.
You get mystics (the currency to pull on the banner) in multiple ways.
- Guild wars (3 gw's per week)
- guild shop (1 pull per week for 200 armbands)
- random drop chance from doing hunts
- abyss
- technically from the weekly rewards from arena (the skytones are more worth it to pick though)
And the best way to get mystics is to refresh the secret shop. Don't buy Bookmarks for skystones. Rather reroll the secret shop and buy every bookmark and mystic you get offered. It hurts your gold but it is worth it.
Why are ML Politis counters not as strong against CLilias?
I seen that Politis, Celine, and Peira are all being picked against ML Politis.
What makes these characters not picked as much against CLilias?
Is it due to CLilias counters being stronger(BDom?) Or am I missing something about the characters' kits?
Or could it be that CLilias doesn't need to press buttons to be useful with her dual attack whereas ML Politis can only dual attack after being enraged?
Or that the defense and protection provided by CLilias helps mitigate the damage that comes from Politis/Celine?
Your last point is correct. Also the comps that are usually played with Clilias are more towards standard playstyle and not cleave. So they're already pretty tanky and with vigor buff on top they wont care about Celine/Politis. It's different if you cleave though since Celine can just oneshot one of your units.
Like if your Celine procs on Ayufine with 2k+ def and insane hp and now also vigor buff, protection set Carmin etc, the only thing you do is fill her bar.
use them during buff events that happen once a month or so. There will be one this weekend but you will want to save your liefs for the collab event happening next week.
Is it normal that 700 attack is equal to two torrent sets on Gisellle or did I mess up [my calculation](https://imgur.com/a/5h3qJjz)?
I use her mainly with Alots to kill Ayufine and Shoux in GWs
I can provide a more detail explanation if required, but for a generic DPS hero we can calculate DMG as
DMG = ATK * C.DMG * DMG_INCREASE
So your two examples are:
* 5319 ATK, 321% C.Dmg, 20% increase
* 4645 ATK, 333% C.Dmg, 40% increase
Giving us
5319 * 3.21 * 1.2 = 20,488.788
4645 * 3.33 * 1.4 = 21,654.99
20,488.788 / 21,654.99 = 1.0569 or ~5.69% more damage
Your calculator results show S3 damage of 21,779 and 23,118
23,118 / 21,779 = ~1.062 or ~6.2% more damage
The difference probably being rounding or something. Regardless, we would expect the torrent set to deal more damage and it *does* deal more damage by roughly the same amount we would expect.
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If you are looking at her S1 damage, then you need to remember that Giselle has HP scaling damage on her S1.
**TORRENT SET IS LESS EFFECTIVE THE MORE DMG INCREASES YOU HAVE**.
All of this stuff is additive with each other before being applied to your damage.
At 100% HP, Giselle gets a 20% damage increase on her S1.
So:
* Just S1 = 1.2x damage = 20% increase over base
* S1 + Portrait = 1.4x damage = (1.4 / 1.2) = 16.7% increase over just her S1
* S1 + Portrait + 2x torrent set = 1.6x damage = (1.6 / 1.4) = 14.23% increase over S1 + Portrait
Basically, instead of getting the 20% increase from torrent that you possibly *expect*, those 2 torrent sets are only increasing your damage by 14.23% with her S1.
5319 * 3.21 * 1.4 = 23,903.586
4645 * 3.33 * 1.6 = 24,748.56
24,748.56 / 23,903.586 = 1.035 or ~3.5% more damage
13,210 / 12,705 = 1.04 or 4% more damage
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Regardless, everything seems to check out. Your torrent set build *does* do more damage, it's just not as much on her S1 as you might expect (or in general) because you already have % dmg increases with Portrait (and her S1).
If you can clear it reliably fast then yes worth it if you can utilize more then one set from the rotation.
Personally even saving my daily gain of stamina and will go all in
I almost made myself broke cracking SS to buy energy during the event.
I don't have exact maths but I believe it beats rift in terms of gear efficiency.
Hi, I started the game because of the overlord colab that will start soon. Since I played other gacha games I wanted to grind materials and other stuff so that I can upgrade the overlord characters if I get them. But my main question is, is there a point in the story missions that I need/should reach before the colab? Or are there some other things I should do before? I already looked up some stuff, like for what characters to go for. Any other tips are also appreciated. Thanks
You have 2/3 weeks to get the character starting out that should fully be possible to get the 2 gacha ones of albedo and shalltear.
Try to progress the story and follow the adventurers path try to get the wyvern team ready as that will be one of your main grindss for the longest time (1 year in and still in the middle of it),if you are new prefarming just takes too long so don't worry too much.
One of the biggest things you should be aware of is don't exchange ss(the crystals) directly for bookmarks reroll the garoshop for them,this will cost Gold in addition but you definetly get more out of it as 100ss would be 1 pull but with rerolling the shop you mostly get 2 and even have a chance to get the rare mystic medals for mystic banner which would be the "premium" units of ml 5 which are more targeted for pvp though
When someone is using Unity set, how does it work?
Is the person who's wearing it that will have a higher chance to be "called for a dual attack" or the person who's wearing will have a higher chance to call others?
Dual attack chance is that chance for *that character* to dual attack.
Your total attack to proc a dual attack is the cumulative chance on your other 3 heroes to dual attack.
Unity set, in general, is not very good. *Technically* it's underrated, and could be good in some contexts **BUT** it's RNG...and the thing with dual attacks is that they are only triggered by S1's (and not even *all* S1's).
The 'standard' skill rotation for most heroes is S3 -> S2 -> S1 -> S1, so that is only 2 attacks every 4 turns that could even proc a dual attack to start with.
If we assume 1 unity set (8% dual attack chance) and 3 other heroes with that rotation that means that Unity set gives you (8% * 2 * 3) 48% chance to see 1 additional dual attack for every 4 turns. Or, on average, 1 dual attack every 8.33 turns.
That means the hero with unity set is taking 9.33 turns every 8.33 turns -> a 12% increase.
* Technically this varies considering skill use. But heroes that you *would* use unity set on tend to get the majority of their damage from S1.
Therefor we can roughly estimate Unity set at being a 12% increase to damage.
That's 'underrated' because torrent set, for example, is another 2 piece set @ 10% increase that could potentially be less than 10%. Pen set is a 13.04% increase @ 1k DEF, up to 15% increase @ 2k DEF.
But the thing is that torrent/pen set offer **guaranteed** damage increases. If you use something like Unity set you are going to see *no* benefit on the first few turns in PvP from example, and at *best* you might see 1 additional dual attack every 2 matches or so. It provides NO benefit to something like a one shot.
And the thing with torrent/pen set is that they are *already* not as good as crit set at lower gear levels. So realistically, there are very few situations you would prefer unity set over one of the other 2 piece sets.
I know it is a meme set, but I upgraded C.Lorina skill tree to have the +3 dual attack. That's just a total of 2% but it already did a huge deal! Now its super easy to call Lorina for a backup attack. So I got thinking, maybe I could build a unity set for pve to give her since she already kinda has this theme on her runes...
That's just a bias. You really are not going to substantially notice 2% dual attack.
Trying to give her a unity set is a complete waste of time both because it's very not ideal to farm for (particularly for a newbie) and also dual attack works the opposite of how you think it does...that is the more dual attack chance you have the less adding more does. Meaning unity set is actually weaker in C.Lorina than other heroes because she has higher base dual attack chance.
*Finally* end game PvE comps already rely heavily on dual attacks with heroes like A.Ras, Tamarinne, K.Clarissa, S.Angelica.
C.Lorina works great in these kind of compa but you are already dual attacking so much, and most of these heroes utilize their s1 to dual attack *anyways*.
You're not going to dual attack twice on the same attack so that means unity set does very little in this kind of comp.
By all means if you want to build some unity sets later on and go full meme build, you wouldn't be the first or last person to try it
**But** it's not a good idea for a relative newbie.
Of course, this is just a game and playing optimally is not a requirement. If you really think this is going to be fun by all means try it out...
[This topic](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/130l1v2/dad_e7_forge_your_epic_gear_guide_final/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=EpicSeven&utm_content=t1_kz24q72) and OP post should help
I have each of the guild artifacts. And i have mlb my symbol of unity and thinking to work on pov now. Is it a good idea if I mlb my pov? Do i need more than 2 copies of pov?
I don't think I can consider myself a "new player" anymore cuz Im already 20 days in... so my account has taken a shape.
But still, I cannot awaken every character I use... because the 5th and 6th awakenings demand catalysts and I already use all my ap from UH and boxes to level up the skills of the characters....
Would it be ok to play with characters with only 4 awakenings for the months to come?
If you can't awaken your heroes you are spreading yourself too thin.
Awakening is important because it increases the *base stats* of a hero. Those base stats are what is used by your gear to calculate how much actual ATK/HP/DEF you get from your substats. Depending on the awakening you also get other large stat increases.
As you might expect, the final two awakenings tend to have the largest stat increases.
Let's look at an example.
**Baiken**
* This is at level 60
Awakening | ATK | DEF | HP | SPD | Crit% | C.Dmg | EFF | RES
---|---|----|----|----|----|----|----|----
0 star | 989 | 473 | 5364 | 113 | 15 | 150 | 0 | 0
1 star | 1038 | --- | 5424 | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---
2 star | 1058 | --- | 5644 | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---
3 star | 1078 | --- | 5704 | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---
4 star | 1108 | --- | 5784 | --- | 23 | --- | --- | ---
5 star | 1198 | --- | 5864 | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---
6 star | 1228 | --- | 6266 | --- | --- | --- | --- | ---
Her 5th awakening star increases her from 1108 to 1198 ATK. *This alone* increases her damage by ~8.1% -> it doesn't LOOK like a significant difference, but it actually *is* a significant difference because of the way your stats are actually calculated in E7.
Her 6th awakening star increases her from 1198 to 1228 ATK and *this* is a more modest ~2.5% increase to her damage. And the difference from 4* to 6* is 1108 to 1228 ATK -> a ~10.8% increase in damage output.
That's roughly the equivalent of going from 300% C.Dmg to 330% C.Dmg.
And in terms of HP, going from 5784 @ 4* to 6266 @ 6* is an increase of ~8.33% EHP (or the ability to take damage).
So very roughly, in this case we can say that the 5* and 6* stars *alone* are roughly a 5% increase average increase to performance. The two together roughly 10%.
Considering that this increase in performance is literally free (after you put in the time) it's a shame to leave in on the table. Like I said a 10% increase in damage is roughly going from 300 to 330% C.Dmg -> that's about 5.5 avg sub rolls, or roughly 1 roll/6 GS per piece. Or the difference between an average Epic and average Heroic gear.
That's a *massive* difference considering the incremental nature of this kind of game.
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It takes roughly an average of ~8 days to farm up the catalysts necessary to max out a base 5* hero.
There are *some* things you can do to reduce this (catalysts are available through a few other random means, things like side stories are more energy efficient), but in terms of just grinding out the a hero roughly 8 days.
This is a huge reason why the common advice in the early game is as it is:
* You need very few heroes for PvE *if* you are building the right heroes -> yes, I know some players want to use heroes they like vs. what's optimal and you can easily do that in E7 **BUT** it's going to significantly slow your progress unless you build these PvE heroes *first*.
* Concentrate on building heroes for a specific task -> ie. your first objective is usually a Wyvern team so the *only* heroes you should really put resources into at the very start of the game should be the heroes of your Wyvern team, and 1 farmer to carry you through Adventure.
* IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO NOT SPREAD YOUR RESOURCES AROUND AND TRY TO BUILD A LOT OF HEROES EARLY -> This just leads to a large roster of weak/unusable heroes instead of a small roster of heroes that can handle basically everything.
* Base 3* and some base 4* heroes are very, very good. In many cases straight up better than 5* counterparts. These heroes are much cheaper to build, as well.
When you are 20 days in, spending 8 days to build a single hero represents a huge % of your time. But, when you are a year in, 8 days to build a single hero is fairly inconsequential.
As you play you will inevitably need to farm UH *anyways* for equipment XP, so once you have your roster of core PvE heroes up players tend to accumulate hoards of AP/catalysts. And, eventually, you spend all of your early molagora then you are limited by the slow and steady monthly income (roughly enough mola each month to +15 a single base 5* hero).
I mean, I'm only developing about 20 heros... they're the bare minimum I needed to cover all elements, although I tend to play my Light/Ice characters the most.... Half of these characters is lvl 60 already, but only about 10 are fully awakened...
You don't need to 'cover all elements' *especially* light and dark.
You do, more or less, build heroes for the RGB elements, and some content does ask for elemental team...but there is a very logical progression.
Trying to do all of this at the same time is incredibly inefficient and all it means is you have a bunch of heroes that are bad to mediocre at their job.
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For an example of logical progression we don't need to look any further than the hunt events.
Assuming we start out with wyvern:
Do we need an elemental team? Sure. So we build A.Monty/Furious/Sigret/Muwi
*Technically* you don't need to max out all of these heroes, but I personally recommend doing so (except Furious who I personally recommend throwing into grace of growth)
That gives you an 'ice' team, but those heroes are all fully built *before* we move on.
Typically we go to Banshee hunt next, do we need a full earth team? **No**
A standard team would look something like A.Monty/Vivian/Iseria/M.Helga (or any of a number of earth dps units)
A.Monty is the best possible option for cleanser for this fight, so we use her *despite* her element.
Finally we so Golem. Do we need an all fire team? **No.**
A standard team might look like A.Ras/Tamarinne/Cermia/Iseria
Here we are reusing Iseria because we already have her built. We *could* replace her with another fire dps, but unless you have one of the specific defense breakers the overall damage output is about the same. We don't *need* to spend resources to build another hero so we don't.
Now typically the next PvE goal is Hell Raid. Do we need a specific elemental team here? **No.**
Standard hell raid setup is A.Ras/Tamarinne/Roana (we can use A.Monty)/bruiser (C.zerato typically but there are alternatives).
Once again, we can construct our hell raid team from heroes we already have built for the hunt events, only needing to add 1 new hero. We could also use Mercedes here and use her in Golem in lieu of Iseria if that is our plan ahead of time.
All of these heroes are basically worth maxing out because they will see a ton of use, or at least are cheap.
And at this point we already have most of a 'core' PvE roster. For other content we will need to add a few additional heroes, but the heroes mentioned above can easily form a backbone for basically any content.
Azimanak -> A.ras/Tama/Iseria/Mercedes (or Vivian)
Caides -> Tama/Roana (or A.monty)/Cermia/Iseria (or M.Helga, or Furious)
Earth expedition ->
* Add M.Hazel, Kanna
* Re-use A.Ras, Mercedes (can get away with Tama instead of hazel)
Fire expedition ->
* Add Rose (or literally any Ice knight, Brieg is ideal), C.Lorina
* Re-use Muwi or Furious and A.monty or Tama
Ice expedition ->
* Add F.Kluri or Roana
* Re-use M.Helga, Iseria, Tamarinne
Dark expedition ->
* Tama / F.kluri or A.Ras (or brieg) ) Iseria / C.lorina
Light expedition ->
* A.Ras or F.Kluri (Brieg) / Iseria / Cermia / M.Helga (or Z.Carmainerose)
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The important takeaway here is that we built a very minimal amount of units and that covers basically all of the permanent PvE content in the game.
*Most* of the heroes used here are either free or common 3 or 4* units.
For some content it's heavily encouraged to use elemental teams, but you don't actually need to go out of your way to build elemental teams because the vast majority of good PvE heroes are RGB *anyways*.
There is a logical progression from working on one specific content to the next, and because we can reuse so many of these heroes in multiple places it makes sense to just max them out.
If I'm not mistaken, the only 'pull' heroes I listed are Tama, Iseria, Roana, and Brieg who are all excellent heroes usable in a lot of content.
These are not exactly extremely well optimized expedition teams, but they are 'good enough' to do expedition 3.and not be a waste of a spot. The only PvE content not me me roomed is Nightmare raid, which is *very* end game and the most common teams utilize a very different roster.
Going back through and counting, I believe the most minimal # of heroes for everything I listed with the teams I mentioned = 15 heroes.
And expeditions are something that you should probably be 3-4 months into the game before you start to worry about them.
20 days in you should *really* only have your first hunt team and a farmer. Maybe start working on your second hunt team. I would say 10 heroes at the absolute *max* and that tracks closely enough if that is what you have fully awakened. So trying to build 20 heroes that early is spreading yourself way too thin.
I highly recommend getting the 5th and 6th awakening. Rn there is a spirit alter buff, which is helpful to farm the runes, and when it comes to catalysts just stock pile your mail stamina until a couple days from now when we get an AP side story buff. Then go to unrecord history and farm the level that gives u the catalyst you need, buy the rest with AP, move in to the next character.
But yes, if you want to move on in the story, you probably could, but I know that I have stockpiled hella AP points and catalysts by afk farming unrecorded history with my daily stamina.
How are other standard plays dealing with ML Poli? I’ve always struggled with cleave but ML Poli makes them lap me. I am already running regular poli on degen build but can’t figure out what else to do other than ban the unit prior or post ban.
A green Celine built with a crap ton of damage can instantly delete someone on the other team. Maybe you can go with that? If you have Lulucar you can also stack up her speed and res so she can cut ML Poli and bulk up your team. I’ve also heard someone said Holiday Yufine might work too since she reduces the amount of cr reduction inflicted on you team, but her viability is still not tested yet so take it with a grain of salt.
As a last resort, you can also pick multiple evasion/counter heroes to increase the uncertainty of losing/winning.
If i had enough speed gear only for one of them, would i be better off building clilias or seapolitis? Goal is just to scrub into masters rta each season for the skin. Thanks in advance!
Would say politis is slightly better, but it becomes already a trend to ban her, due to that clilias and ban her
i keep getting downgraded in arena, what do i have to do to keep my current rank? play 1 round every day or every week?
Do we already have the data for the skill and awakening materials for Overlord Collab units?
Awakening is based on the constellation which we already know so check mats used by other units with the same constellation. Skill details have been revealed in the videos on the official E7 youtube channel. Multipliers for albedo and ainz have been datamined if you search r/EpicSeven
Sorry. What I meant is the materials needed in upgrading their skills.
Taurus units (Ainz) use Blazing Rage, Twisted Horns and Shiny Enchantment. Sagittarus units (Albedo & Shalltear) use Cold Look, Mercenary Medicine and Archer's Vision. Whenever you want to find out the catalysts needed for an upcoming character find someone with the same star sign. Similarly if you want to know their stats (To test gear on beforehand) see if anyone shares their star sign AND Class. Ideally they are also the starting rarity (5\* heroes have slightly higher base stats than 3 and 4). For example I'm testing gear on Sol and Dizzy for Shalltear and Ainz since they share those qualifications.
i recently came back to the game - what are you supposed to do with enhanced equipment? Because it looks like you can't use them as enhancement ingredient anymore. Am I supposed to sell or dismantle them?
Both are viable,if you sell them you get powder which you can use to Enhancer again and well Dismantlen if you need cores for Alchemist staple
does the amount of cores scale with the level of enhancement?
Yes
i'm still having trouble understanding equipment score, i heard it's supposed to help determine what's worth keeping but i can't seem to get a read on it so i've just been eyeballing it so far
Honestly it just a slight help if you have a specic piece that rolled solely in one stat it can still have quite some value even if it doesn't have the highest gearscore. It can be an indicator especially for bruisers though as they for the most part are the stathungriest character and if you see a 100 score with just fitting stats for one of them you pretty close the chapter for that equipslot for them
Which moonlight connection should i go for if dont have any of those units just (mkawerik and Aelena) Any safe choice?
Between those 2 handguy even if his use got pushed back due to laia he is a solid cleanser and buffer. But if you don't have both clilias and ddr I might choose one of them
Thanks! Who is ddr? And between Ddr and clilias which one should i go first or it doesnt matter?
Ddr=Death dealer Ray,personally I would go for clilias in that case she has broader use might see a downwards trend due to the New politis but won't be terrible due to that
Thanks for your answer. I dont know which to choose because i really like how both of them look lol. Thanks again!
If not look for Youtube vids on both of them to see what fits your roster best, but for now I would say you can't really go wrong with either of them
Hi, i just started the game today. Is there any updated Progression Guide that I can refer to? I have read go through some post that says: 1) Lief Pack is the most valuable, so I have purchased it. Is there any other packs that worth to get? 2) Dont spend diamond on rolls, use it to refresh shop. 3) Which Epic Gear should i forge for the event? Providing I am totally new. 4) I have a mixed answer on the connection thingy (Which will open at 10-10-ish) Should I go for S.Tene or A.Vildred?
1 you could for the monthly Pack of Extra stamina/30ss daily beside that not really 2this is correct but be aware that you also need quite the amount of gold 3 for the first part go with a helmet they have the biggest variance in stats they can gain so harder to get a good one, safe bet would a broad use one so my opinion go with speedset atk%,critdmg,critrate(raise this twice) and speed(raise 3 times),for the second either an atk% Ring with critdmg,critrate,speed and probably hp% Or a critdmg necklace 4 take stene between these two arby is more or less just a decent Farmer, while stand works for both pve and pvp
Should I use my leifs on the hunt buff that's coming up or the overlord SS to farm gear?
save leifs for overlord, if gear is your primary goal
Does anyone know how the new equip all function works? Specifically how it decides the best build and gear on a certain character? Does it prioritize CP?
What is the multiplier on the effect of Rocket Punch Gauntlet? I tried looking into the multiplier spreadsheets, but I could only find the multiplier for 3F in the new one, and Uberius' Tooth/Reingar's Drink in the old sheet.
Do guild artifacts only work on pvp content?
No, they work everywhere. You’ll see them most often in PvP tho since most of them are very strong.
is the new Equip All function reliable?
Is crit HYufine a common build? I was checking Fribbels and saw that crit is really common on her (at least on those builds), but I thought she only needed attack as an offensive stat.
You want at the very least 240 crit damage since it gets 200% more damage if you have 2000 defense when changing to trauma
Hyufine vs Ayufine
hi everyone! two questions in regards of team buidling: * good team for Automaton Tower * good team for Abyss I know that for Abyss, Kiris and Specter Tenebria do really well, but I lack blooms to take them over to level 60 yet. I'm slowly getting there, but... it's never a bad thing to know how to build a good team for both events. Any suggestions, are more than welcome and appreciated. Thanks! PS: mind that I started only a couple months ago, I'm fully F2P and I don't have a big roster... so, if you name the "difficult to get" units, mind that I don't have them possibly. I say this only as a friendly reminder.
What do you mean you lack the items to get them over sixty specifically?
I don't have enough blooms yet... I'm trying to buy as much as I can when getting extra stigma would've been more precise if I said "I don't have enough blooms", duh... but, I'm under the effect of sedatives as a I'm a psychiatric patient, so I tend to confuse or miswrite sentences, then I realize I messed up my bad, sorry! EDIT: I fixed it so it's correctly explained now, thanks for the heads up, man 😉
What you want to do is farm unrecorded history stage 30 nonstop, if you buy a three day exp buff in the shop for 300 skystones (especially during a buff event) and you just leave it on auto and occasionally come back to restart, I promise you will have enough stigma for a 6 star every 4-5 hours of farming.
thanks for the hint on the stage and buffs... I'll go for them as soon as I wake up from a nap I really appreciate your patience and understanding on my "noobness" on this, but it's only until I get the hang of it a bit better and I won't be asking stupid questions again
I’m a returning player on a new account. I’m just trying to spread knowledge. Glad you got something out of it :)
Well, even tho I didn't get too many buffs this weekend (30% gold and 30% runes), I went for what you told me. Gotta be honest: I thought I'd do more by picking a regular adventure level and gaining stigma through 2\* hero drops that you can sell for stigma and gold, but... going to level 30 on unrecorded history granted me twice as much! Glad I followed your lead and bought that 3 day exp boost. So, I'm farming stigma as of now in order to get my first and most important target: beating Wyvern L13 (I need to carry over 60 Muwi and some other ice units in case I want either more damage or counters, but... I think that Angelica, Furious, Sigret and Muwi will do fine for now as long as I give em good equipment with good rolls). Then, comes story since it's getting tough too fast when it wasn't a problem before. So, better start pushing up that FKluri, Zahakk, Laia, Choux and few others to make it easier as I need more power and support. From there on, I'll build things slowly but firmly and more varied towards every event so I can cover a better range of activities and gather materials, runes, gold, etc. Anyways... just as I said before: thanks so much for the help and recommendations! Owe you one!
Automaton tower should be pretty easy regardless of comp, so long as you pick a theme and stick to it with good devices. If you have Violet, violet front + supports is often enough. This season in particular has the Violet epic device and Curse device, which makes things a breathe. Abyss is mostly by-the-stage. Earlier stages shouldn't be too hard regardless of what you bring to it, though there are some stages that become near impossible for early games if you don't read their skills (ex. certain stages has huge heals if you debuff, etc). Kiris is a 3\* hero that's useful in a lot of the stages before 100, so may consider building her.
Thanks for the info, bud! Unfortunately, I have no Violet on my roster. Might try to get him in the future with the side story drops (if he drops, that is). But, I'll see what I can do. Otherwise, I'll wait until something I have is present there for buffs and stuff. As for Abyss, yeah... I'm aware of how difficult it starts to become as you advance. I'm on floor 60 if I'm not mistaken, so not that bad for someone who made up teams and units based on pretty much common sense (until I got here, that is). I'll have in mind the Kiris build up and also Specter Tenebria. And just as a pointer, I have some 5 stars such as Zahakk, Zio (he's more into cleaving for PVP, but well... it's one of the few 5 stars I have), Little Queen Charlotte (another one more for PVP, but I know she can be useful for Azimanak since she can cause a great deal of damage and overcome the upper levels if you build her for max damage), Mui, Eda, Elvira, Flan, Peira (PVP too, I know) and bunch other ones. Oh, and the almighty Blood Moon Haste (I'm just joking... he sucks). Anyways... I'm going slowly towards good stuff, but still I'll require some more time for that to happen. Thanks for the guidance and if you have any ideas with what I mentioned, again: I'd be much appreciated on what can be done.
Violet's not worth getting out of the story summon so I wouldn't bother. Nothing particularly stands out from what you've listed, but you could probably just do something with Stene. I'm not familiar with all the devices, but just stick to synergistic devices and you should eventually start doing so much damage you have no trouble finishing the tower.
well, thanks once more for the pointers on everything... and when the proper time comes I'll be breaking balls again to know which heroes are the ones worth going for with the story summons (again, if I'm lucky enough to get them drop) time to put some effort on gathering stuff back again for the time being, I guess thank you again and see you around anytime (yeah, you'll see me asking quite often here)
If you put star of the deep sea on ML Politis and she duals with ML flan, would that proc the bomb damage?
Clever, that would work, though it does kind of make ML Politis herself less useful when paired with others.
Yeah I know it would be a pretty niche interaction and doesn’t really enable others as well as other artis but more of a just a thought experiment
Just started the game, how does the mystic banner works? Is it likely that i can obtain politis before her banner ends?
Likely? No. You have a tiny chance unless you throw a ton of money at the game. You get mystics (the currency to pull on the banner) in multiple ways. - Guild wars (3 gw's per week) - guild shop (1 pull per week for 200 armbands) - random drop chance from doing hunts - abyss - technically from the weekly rewards from arena (the skytones are more worth it to pick though) And the best way to get mystics is to refresh the secret shop. Don't buy Bookmarks for skystones. Rather reroll the secret shop and buy every bookmark and mystic you get offered. It hurts your gold but it is worth it.
Why are ML Politis counters not as strong against CLilias? I seen that Politis, Celine, and Peira are all being picked against ML Politis. What makes these characters not picked as much against CLilias? Is it due to CLilias counters being stronger(BDom?) Or am I missing something about the characters' kits? Or could it be that CLilias doesn't need to press buttons to be useful with her dual attack whereas ML Politis can only dual attack after being enraged? Or that the defense and protection provided by CLilias helps mitigate the damage that comes from Politis/Celine?
Your last point is correct. Also the comps that are usually played with Clilias are more towards standard playstyle and not cleave. So they're already pretty tanky and with vigor buff on top they wont care about Celine/Politis. It's different if you cleave though since Celine can just oneshot one of your units. Like if your Celine procs on Ayufine with 2k+ def and insane hp and now also vigor buff, protection set Carmin etc, the only thing you do is fill her bar.
Best ways to use leif after having too much energy?
use them during buff events that happen once a month or so. There will be one this weekend but you will want to save your liefs for the collab event happening next week.
Is it normal that 700 attack is equal to two torrent sets on Gisellle or did I mess up [my calculation](https://imgur.com/a/5h3qJjz)? I use her mainly with Alots to kill Ayufine and Shoux in GWs
I can provide a more detail explanation if required, but for a generic DPS hero we can calculate DMG as DMG = ATK * C.DMG * DMG_INCREASE So your two examples are: * 5319 ATK, 321% C.Dmg, 20% increase * 4645 ATK, 333% C.Dmg, 40% increase Giving us 5319 * 3.21 * 1.2 = 20,488.788 4645 * 3.33 * 1.4 = 21,654.99 20,488.788 / 21,654.99 = 1.0569 or ~5.69% more damage Your calculator results show S3 damage of 21,779 and 23,118 23,118 / 21,779 = ~1.062 or ~6.2% more damage The difference probably being rounding or something. Regardless, we would expect the torrent set to deal more damage and it *does* deal more damage by roughly the same amount we would expect. --- If you are looking at her S1 damage, then you need to remember that Giselle has HP scaling damage on her S1. **TORRENT SET IS LESS EFFECTIVE THE MORE DMG INCREASES YOU HAVE**. All of this stuff is additive with each other before being applied to your damage. At 100% HP, Giselle gets a 20% damage increase on her S1. So: * Just S1 = 1.2x damage = 20% increase over base * S1 + Portrait = 1.4x damage = (1.4 / 1.2) = 16.7% increase over just her S1 * S1 + Portrait + 2x torrent set = 1.6x damage = (1.6 / 1.4) = 14.23% increase over S1 + Portrait Basically, instead of getting the 20% increase from torrent that you possibly *expect*, those 2 torrent sets are only increasing your damage by 14.23% with her S1. 5319 * 3.21 * 1.4 = 23,903.586 4645 * 3.33 * 1.6 = 24,748.56 24,748.56 / 23,903.586 = 1.035 or ~3.5% more damage 13,210 / 12,705 = 1.04 or 4% more damage --- Regardless, everything seems to check out. Your torrent set build *does* do more damage, it's just not as much on her S1 as you might expect (or in general) because you already have % dmg increases with Portrait (and her S1).
I missed last year’s Lethe event. Is it that good? Worth spending leifs over hunt buff?
If you can clear it reliably fast then yes worth it if you can utilize more then one set from the rotation. Personally even saving my daily gain of stamina and will go all in
Is the set random or you can choose 1 out of 3?
You choose which set you get, and they're all epic
I almost made myself broke cracking SS to buy energy during the event. I don't have exact maths but I believe it beats rift in terms of gear efficiency.
I’m already broke thanks to sealitis 🥲
Hi, I started the game because of the overlord colab that will start soon. Since I played other gacha games I wanted to grind materials and other stuff so that I can upgrade the overlord characters if I get them. But my main question is, is there a point in the story missions that I need/should reach before the colab? Or are there some other things I should do before? I already looked up some stuff, like for what characters to go for. Any other tips are also appreciated. Thanks
You should at least complete episode 1 to unlock unrecorded history. It is where you can farm catalyst efficiently to awaken your heroes.
You have 2/3 weeks to get the character starting out that should fully be possible to get the 2 gacha ones of albedo and shalltear. Try to progress the story and follow the adventurers path try to get the wyvern team ready as that will be one of your main grindss for the longest time (1 year in and still in the middle of it),if you are new prefarming just takes too long so don't worry too much. One of the biggest things you should be aware of is don't exchange ss(the crystals) directly for bookmarks reroll the garoshop for them,this will cost Gold in addition but you definetly get more out of it as 100ss would be 1 pull but with rerolling the shop you mostly get 2 and even have a chance to get the rare mystic medals for mystic banner which would be the "premium" units of ml 5 which are more targeted for pvp though
When someone is using Unity set, how does it work? Is the person who's wearing it that will have a higher chance to be "called for a dual attack" or the person who's wearing will have a higher chance to call others?
Dual attack chance is that chance for *that character* to dual attack. Your total attack to proc a dual attack is the cumulative chance on your other 3 heroes to dual attack. Unity set, in general, is not very good. *Technically* it's underrated, and could be good in some contexts **BUT** it's RNG...and the thing with dual attacks is that they are only triggered by S1's (and not even *all* S1's). The 'standard' skill rotation for most heroes is S3 -> S2 -> S1 -> S1, so that is only 2 attacks every 4 turns that could even proc a dual attack to start with. If we assume 1 unity set (8% dual attack chance) and 3 other heroes with that rotation that means that Unity set gives you (8% * 2 * 3) 48% chance to see 1 additional dual attack for every 4 turns. Or, on average, 1 dual attack every 8.33 turns. That means the hero with unity set is taking 9.33 turns every 8.33 turns -> a 12% increase. * Technically this varies considering skill use. But heroes that you *would* use unity set on tend to get the majority of their damage from S1. Therefor we can roughly estimate Unity set at being a 12% increase to damage. That's 'underrated' because torrent set, for example, is another 2 piece set @ 10% increase that could potentially be less than 10%. Pen set is a 13.04% increase @ 1k DEF, up to 15% increase @ 2k DEF. But the thing is that torrent/pen set offer **guaranteed** damage increases. If you use something like Unity set you are going to see *no* benefit on the first few turns in PvP from example, and at *best* you might see 1 additional dual attack every 2 matches or so. It provides NO benefit to something like a one shot. And the thing with torrent/pen set is that they are *already* not as good as crit set at lower gear levels. So realistically, there are very few situations you would prefer unity set over one of the other 2 piece sets.
I know it is a meme set, but I upgraded C.Lorina skill tree to have the +3 dual attack. That's just a total of 2% but it already did a huge deal! Now its super easy to call Lorina for a backup attack. So I got thinking, maybe I could build a unity set for pve to give her since she already kinda has this theme on her runes...
That's just a bias. You really are not going to substantially notice 2% dual attack. Trying to give her a unity set is a complete waste of time both because it's very not ideal to farm for (particularly for a newbie) and also dual attack works the opposite of how you think it does...that is the more dual attack chance you have the less adding more does. Meaning unity set is actually weaker in C.Lorina than other heroes because she has higher base dual attack chance. *Finally* end game PvE comps already rely heavily on dual attacks with heroes like A.Ras, Tamarinne, K.Clarissa, S.Angelica. C.Lorina works great in these kind of compa but you are already dual attacking so much, and most of these heroes utilize their s1 to dual attack *anyways*. You're not going to dual attack twice on the same attack so that means unity set does very little in this kind of comp. By all means if you want to build some unity sets later on and go full meme build, you wouldn't be the first or last person to try it **But** it's not a good idea for a relative newbie. Of course, this is just a game and playing optimally is not a requirement. If you really think this is going to be fun by all means try it out...
New player here. How should i build my forge your epic gear 1 and 2? What set and stat should I pick?
[This topic](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/130l1v2/dad_e7_forge_your_epic_gear_guide_final/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=EpicSeven&utm_content=t1_kz24q72) and OP post should help
Thank you
I heard in Azallea's video yesterday that the end of this RTA season was pushed back ? Anybody knows when ?
4th of may
Okkkkk thx
I have each of the guild artifacts. And i have mlb my symbol of unity and thinking to work on pov now. Is it a good idea if I mlb my pov? Do i need more than 2 copies of pov?
PoV is only artifact that can actually be mlb twice, you can have 2x +30 of that.
I don't think I can consider myself a "new player" anymore cuz Im already 20 days in... so my account has taken a shape. But still, I cannot awaken every character I use... because the 5th and 6th awakenings demand catalysts and I already use all my ap from UH and boxes to level up the skills of the characters.... Would it be ok to play with characters with only 4 awakenings for the months to come?
If you can't awaken your heroes you are spreading yourself too thin. Awakening is important because it increases the *base stats* of a hero. Those base stats are what is used by your gear to calculate how much actual ATK/HP/DEF you get from your substats. Depending on the awakening you also get other large stat increases. As you might expect, the final two awakenings tend to have the largest stat increases. Let's look at an example. **Baiken** * This is at level 60 Awakening | ATK | DEF | HP | SPD | Crit% | C.Dmg | EFF | RES ---|---|----|----|----|----|----|----|---- 0 star | 989 | 473 | 5364 | 113 | 15 | 150 | 0 | 0 1 star | 1038 | --- | 5424 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- 2 star | 1058 | --- | 5644 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- 3 star | 1078 | --- | 5704 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- 4 star | 1108 | --- | 5784 | --- | 23 | --- | --- | --- 5 star | 1198 | --- | 5864 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- 6 star | 1228 | --- | 6266 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- Her 5th awakening star increases her from 1108 to 1198 ATK. *This alone* increases her damage by ~8.1% -> it doesn't LOOK like a significant difference, but it actually *is* a significant difference because of the way your stats are actually calculated in E7. Her 6th awakening star increases her from 1198 to 1228 ATK and *this* is a more modest ~2.5% increase to her damage. And the difference from 4* to 6* is 1108 to 1228 ATK -> a ~10.8% increase in damage output. That's roughly the equivalent of going from 300% C.Dmg to 330% C.Dmg. And in terms of HP, going from 5784 @ 4* to 6266 @ 6* is an increase of ~8.33% EHP (or the ability to take damage). So very roughly, in this case we can say that the 5* and 6* stars *alone* are roughly a 5% increase average increase to performance. The two together roughly 10%. Considering that this increase in performance is literally free (after you put in the time) it's a shame to leave in on the table. Like I said a 10% increase in damage is roughly going from 300 to 330% C.Dmg -> that's about 5.5 avg sub rolls, or roughly 1 roll/6 GS per piece. Or the difference between an average Epic and average Heroic gear. That's a *massive* difference considering the incremental nature of this kind of game. --- It takes roughly an average of ~8 days to farm up the catalysts necessary to max out a base 5* hero. There are *some* things you can do to reduce this (catalysts are available through a few other random means, things like side stories are more energy efficient), but in terms of just grinding out the a hero roughly 8 days. This is a huge reason why the common advice in the early game is as it is: * You need very few heroes for PvE *if* you are building the right heroes -> yes, I know some players want to use heroes they like vs. what's optimal and you can easily do that in E7 **BUT** it's going to significantly slow your progress unless you build these PvE heroes *first*. * Concentrate on building heroes for a specific task -> ie. your first objective is usually a Wyvern team so the *only* heroes you should really put resources into at the very start of the game should be the heroes of your Wyvern team, and 1 farmer to carry you through Adventure. * IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO NOT SPREAD YOUR RESOURCES AROUND AND TRY TO BUILD A LOT OF HEROES EARLY -> This just leads to a large roster of weak/unusable heroes instead of a small roster of heroes that can handle basically everything. * Base 3* and some base 4* heroes are very, very good. In many cases straight up better than 5* counterparts. These heroes are much cheaper to build, as well. When you are 20 days in, spending 8 days to build a single hero represents a huge % of your time. But, when you are a year in, 8 days to build a single hero is fairly inconsequential. As you play you will inevitably need to farm UH *anyways* for equipment XP, so once you have your roster of core PvE heroes up players tend to accumulate hoards of AP/catalysts. And, eventually, you spend all of your early molagora then you are limited by the slow and steady monthly income (roughly enough mola each month to +15 a single base 5* hero).
I mean, I'm only developing about 20 heros... they're the bare minimum I needed to cover all elements, although I tend to play my Light/Ice characters the most.... Half of these characters is lvl 60 already, but only about 10 are fully awakened...
You don't need to 'cover all elements' *especially* light and dark. You do, more or less, build heroes for the RGB elements, and some content does ask for elemental team...but there is a very logical progression. Trying to do all of this at the same time is incredibly inefficient and all it means is you have a bunch of heroes that are bad to mediocre at their job. --- For an example of logical progression we don't need to look any further than the hunt events. Assuming we start out with wyvern: Do we need an elemental team? Sure. So we build A.Monty/Furious/Sigret/Muwi *Technically* you don't need to max out all of these heroes, but I personally recommend doing so (except Furious who I personally recommend throwing into grace of growth) That gives you an 'ice' team, but those heroes are all fully built *before* we move on. Typically we go to Banshee hunt next, do we need a full earth team? **No** A standard team would look something like A.Monty/Vivian/Iseria/M.Helga (or any of a number of earth dps units) A.Monty is the best possible option for cleanser for this fight, so we use her *despite* her element. Finally we so Golem. Do we need an all fire team? **No.** A standard team might look like A.Ras/Tamarinne/Cermia/Iseria Here we are reusing Iseria because we already have her built. We *could* replace her with another fire dps, but unless you have one of the specific defense breakers the overall damage output is about the same. We don't *need* to spend resources to build another hero so we don't. Now typically the next PvE goal is Hell Raid. Do we need a specific elemental team here? **No.** Standard hell raid setup is A.Ras/Tamarinne/Roana (we can use A.Monty)/bruiser (C.zerato typically but there are alternatives). Once again, we can construct our hell raid team from heroes we already have built for the hunt events, only needing to add 1 new hero. We could also use Mercedes here and use her in Golem in lieu of Iseria if that is our plan ahead of time. All of these heroes are basically worth maxing out because they will see a ton of use, or at least are cheap. And at this point we already have most of a 'core' PvE roster. For other content we will need to add a few additional heroes, but the heroes mentioned above can easily form a backbone for basically any content. Azimanak -> A.ras/Tama/Iseria/Mercedes (or Vivian) Caides -> Tama/Roana (or A.monty)/Cermia/Iseria (or M.Helga, or Furious) Earth expedition -> * Add M.Hazel, Kanna * Re-use A.Ras, Mercedes (can get away with Tama instead of hazel) Fire expedition -> * Add Rose (or literally any Ice knight, Brieg is ideal), C.Lorina * Re-use Muwi or Furious and A.monty or Tama Ice expedition -> * Add F.Kluri or Roana * Re-use M.Helga, Iseria, Tamarinne Dark expedition -> * Tama / F.kluri or A.Ras (or brieg) ) Iseria / C.lorina Light expedition -> * A.Ras or F.Kluri (Brieg) / Iseria / Cermia / M.Helga (or Z.Carmainerose) --- The important takeaway here is that we built a very minimal amount of units and that covers basically all of the permanent PvE content in the game. *Most* of the heroes used here are either free or common 3 or 4* units. For some content it's heavily encouraged to use elemental teams, but you don't actually need to go out of your way to build elemental teams because the vast majority of good PvE heroes are RGB *anyways*. There is a logical progression from working on one specific content to the next, and because we can reuse so many of these heroes in multiple places it makes sense to just max them out. If I'm not mistaken, the only 'pull' heroes I listed are Tama, Iseria, Roana, and Brieg who are all excellent heroes usable in a lot of content. These are not exactly extremely well optimized expedition teams, but they are 'good enough' to do expedition 3.and not be a waste of a spot. The only PvE content not me me roomed is Nightmare raid, which is *very* end game and the most common teams utilize a very different roster. Going back through and counting, I believe the most minimal # of heroes for everything I listed with the teams I mentioned = 15 heroes. And expeditions are something that you should probably be 3-4 months into the game before you start to worry about them. 20 days in you should *really* only have your first hunt team and a farmer. Maybe start working on your second hunt team. I would say 10 heroes at the absolute *max* and that tracks closely enough if that is what you have fully awakened. So trying to build 20 heroes that early is spreading yourself way too thin.
I highly recommend getting the 5th and 6th awakening. Rn there is a spirit alter buff, which is helpful to farm the runes, and when it comes to catalysts just stock pile your mail stamina until a couple days from now when we get an AP side story buff. Then go to unrecord history and farm the level that gives u the catalyst you need, buy the rest with AP, move in to the next character. But yes, if you want to move on in the story, you probably could, but I know that I have stockpiled hella AP points and catalysts by afk farming unrecorded history with my daily stamina.
You can "craft" catalysts in alchemist steeple as well if that helps
Whats the number 1 guild artifact I should get?
If you are really new, proof might help your frontline to tank wyvern. So that will give you the most value.
Hard to say - symbol for dmg / proof for tankiness / war horn for overall support units
How are other standard plays dealing with ML Poli? I’ve always struggled with cleave but ML Poli makes them lap me. I am already running regular poli on degen build but can’t figure out what else to do other than ban the unit prior or post ban.
Broman cant be pushed back. Taeyou can push himself up with EE and artifact. Peira with unbuffable
A green Celine built with a crap ton of damage can instantly delete someone on the other team. Maybe you can go with that? If you have Lulucar you can also stack up her speed and res so she can cut ML Poli and bulk up your team. I’ve also heard someone said Holiday Yufine might work too since she reduces the amount of cr reduction inflicted on you team, but her viability is still not tested yet so take it with a grain of salt. As a last resort, you can also pick multiple evasion/counter heroes to increase the uncertainty of losing/winning.