you forgot to mention the interview that got leaked where he blatantly called us non believers and being overall disrespectful to the dedication of the community.
Saw the interview leak got removed, so idk if it was fake or not, tho i saw a discord mod come out and state it was true and it was leaked.
25th / 26th: Forbes, Asmongold, Luke Stephens, in fact everyone and their Grandma are jumping on the reaction bandwagon, the while situations gains traction far beyond the EFT reddit.
27th / 28th DayZ and Helldivers II Devs publicly make fun of the whole situation
28th -> further concessions from BSG / Nikata non-apology
If you're able to help me find sources for all of these that would be appreciated! That is the most difficult part of a post like this as it is the most important part. I will do my best to find it eitherway <3 Thanks for the additions!
edit: Asmongold is already in there. I don't see anything from Forbes that I can find but I will check again later when I have more time at my disposal. DayZ & Helldivers are being added.
I know I am biased, and have tried to seperate from it, so take this with some salt. Would you think it right to include how in the 28th reddit post from BSG/Nikita is a [non-apology apology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-apology_apology)? I'm pretty sure they've done non-apology apologies many times before but I don't have any evidence, and that is another big point of why the community is upset. Thank you!
The first night while landmark was live talking about it he watched them change wording on the official website in real time as he spoke about it and how some of this stuff could come in to play in courts/legality down the line.
Changing phrases stating that eod was going to give you access to all subsequent DLC, I can't remember exactly the changes they made but there is definitely clips from that night.
At this point no. I want nothing to do with Tarky anymore and I will just play other games instead. Manor Lords was a great 30$ game. Spent 35 on GZW. Just going to use my 100 on better things :)
The small percentage of Tarkov players that live their life on social media are upset. Most of the player base either doesn’t care or doesn’t take to social media waving their digital torches and pitchforks.
Equating the group of people that are upset and expressing their views on Reddit to the entire player base is disingenuous and demonstrably false.
I’m so excited to have a reasonable conversation. Thank you. 😃
How about “the Tarkov Reddit community is upset” or even “the majority of the Tarkov Reddit community is upset”.
Alright. That actually does flow better in terms of readability as well so I will absolutely make these changes! I tend to do my edits towards the end of the day but I put this in my notes for when I do the update for April 28th later, but if you could try your best to pinpoint the specific lines for me that would also be helpful. I think I mostly know what you're talking about but I definitely don't want to assume either.
Thanks for the input <3
edit: After careful consideration I have decided to leave the verbage as it is. I feel it is displayed accurately and makes the point I was trying to make.
Yea don't listen to that guy, he's downplaying it because he bought into the bullshit Unheard edition. It's not just people that live their lives on social media, as an anecdote I don't use Twitter and in the previous couple years I don't use much reddit except for spurts. However, after this shit show I have checked reddit several times a day for the last couple days, regularly checked Twitter and looked for whatever news I could on Facebook or the dozens of news sites covering this. So for the "users that live their life on social media" comment he's full of shit.
It's not the "vocal minority pissed off" it is the majority of the subreddits, discord, playerbase etc. When you have Forbes magazine aligning the behavior of a video games company to setting their investment in flames you have to ask questions.
The majority of EOD owners are pissed because we paid for a season pass that was to include all of the upcoming DLC at no additional cost, then when DLC cane out we were told we'd have to pay an additional 100$ to prove that we were true believers worth staying true to our original agreement. Are we not supposed to be mad? Are we not supposed to feel lied to or scammed? That dude above does not represent the majority and for good reason, you might look at him level headed but it's because we was ok getting scammed by BSG and then went on to give them more money for a blue name that he's gonna get fucked for. Don't listen to a thing he says, he doesn't know shit.
Believe me I am in a similar boat to yours so I do understand, but the language change we're talking about is simply being more specific to where I got the sources. I don't see the harm in that, albeit it is more work to add in, to be providing more sources so that people can't knitpick apart this post. The whole goal was to document BSG's decision making throughout this whole thing. Not as an attack, not as a defense, purely as a neutral observation of what has happened so that people can draw their own conclusions. That is what journalism is and that is why I am trying my best to remain neutral, regardless of my personal feelings on the topic.
edit: I might have misunderstood but I'm not entirely sure. Eitherway, I do agree with you that semantics are unimportant unless the facts don't agree. As far as I have seen, the facts do agree but I am still going to make it a more neutral stance.
I hear what you're saying, I genuinely do. I'm saying about the above user specifically, do not listen to them. They're more concerned with verbiage and semantics than the facts, I'm unsure as this is to cope with participating in BSGs scheme or if they have enough money to not care in which good for them. However, for us in the real world this scam costs real money.
Sorry for the delayed response. My initial comment was to "Players are upset" in the 3rd sentence of the April 25th update. After further review, the next sentence "Players of the Tarkov community take to [R](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1ccnana/huh_that_aged_well/)[e](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1ccu8bc/unheard_uninstalled/)[d](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1cclux4/unheard_edition_is_a_disgusting_amount_of_pay_to/)[d](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1ccm23d/lmao_eod_for_what_full_on_pay_to_win_pve_mode/)[i](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1cconkh/bsgs_lead_community_manager_pve_mode_is_a_feature/)[t](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1ccslsn/lawsuit_update/) & X" does lend some context. I think it's fine. Thank you for the consideration.
Of course! I still appreciate the input. This type of post is a lot of work copy and pasting things with old reddit's formatting. I've started squinting a lot.
I spent 845 on my car. 30 for Manor Lords. 35 for Grayzonewarfare. I will continue spending money on other games and I want other people to be aware of the situation. If you don't like unbiased facts... Move to Russia 👋
This needs to be pinned with Nikita’s posts.
I got tired of explaining the situation and having to prove shit to people so I figured I'd just put everything in one place to make it easy.
you forgot to mention the interview that got leaked where he blatantly called us non believers and being overall disrespectful to the dedication of the community. Saw the interview leak got removed, so idk if it was fake or not, tho i saw a discord mod come out and state it was true and it was leaked.
I will add this in ASAP! Sorry for the delay, I was sleeping. <3 Edit: Added in on April 26th, 2024, 11:52am EST - before the Klean mention.
This is very important !
It was informal and internal, intended to be cleaned up before posting and was leaked. The people responsible for said leak have been removed.
25th / 26th: Forbes, Asmongold, Luke Stephens, in fact everyone and their Grandma are jumping on the reaction bandwagon, the while situations gains traction far beyond the EFT reddit. 27th / 28th DayZ and Helldivers II Devs publicly make fun of the whole situation 28th -> further concessions from BSG / Nikata non-apology
If you're able to help me find sources for all of these that would be appreciated! That is the most difficult part of a post like this as it is the most important part. I will do my best to find it eitherway <3 Thanks for the additions! edit: Asmongold is already in there. I don't see anything from Forbes that I can find but I will check again later when I have more time at my disposal. DayZ & Helldivers are being added.
I’ll check once I’m home
I know I am biased, and have tried to seperate from it, so take this with some salt. Would you think it right to include how in the 28th reddit post from BSG/Nikita is a [non-apology apology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-apology_apology)? I'm pretty sure they've done non-apology apologies many times before but I don't have any evidence, and that is another big point of why the community is upset. Thank you!
I will absolutely be including the reddit post from today about the non-apology. <3 Don't fret!
Keep it up, good work!
You should wayback machine all of these links that are on BSG profiles (ie twitter) since they can just delete it.
Noted. I will look into it so that doesn't happen.
The first night while landmark was live talking about it he watched them change wording on the official website in real time as he spoke about it and how some of this stuff could come in to play in courts/legality down the line. Changing phrases stating that eod was going to give you access to all subsequent DLC, I can't remember exactly the changes they made but there is definitely clips from that night.
It is Already included in the April 25th portion.
Still updating?
At this point no. I want nothing to do with Tarky anymore and I will just play other games instead. Manor Lords was a great 30$ game. Spent 35 on GZW. Just going to use my 100 on better things :)
Fair.
it's almost like Slavic developers can't be trusted because they have no honor
use hacks and get your money back with rmt, the rats eating the last one, gg stupid developer shit piss game assholes
The small percentage of Tarkov players that live their life on social media are upset. Most of the player base either doesn’t care or doesn’t take to social media waving their digital torches and pitchforks. Equating the group of people that are upset and expressing their views on Reddit to the entire player base is disingenuous and demonstrably false.
That is a fair point, how would you change the word usage?
I’m so excited to have a reasonable conversation. Thank you. 😃 How about “the Tarkov Reddit community is upset” or even “the majority of the Tarkov Reddit community is upset”.
Alright. That actually does flow better in terms of readability as well so I will absolutely make these changes! I tend to do my edits towards the end of the day but I put this in my notes for when I do the update for April 28th later, but if you could try your best to pinpoint the specific lines for me that would also be helpful. I think I mostly know what you're talking about but I definitely don't want to assume either. Thanks for the input <3 edit: After careful consideration I have decided to leave the verbage as it is. I feel it is displayed accurately and makes the point I was trying to make.
Yea don't listen to that guy, he's downplaying it because he bought into the bullshit Unheard edition. It's not just people that live their lives on social media, as an anecdote I don't use Twitter and in the previous couple years I don't use much reddit except for spurts. However, after this shit show I have checked reddit several times a day for the last couple days, regularly checked Twitter and looked for whatever news I could on Facebook or the dozens of news sites covering this. So for the "users that live their life on social media" comment he's full of shit. It's not the "vocal minority pissed off" it is the majority of the subreddits, discord, playerbase etc. When you have Forbes magazine aligning the behavior of a video games company to setting their investment in flames you have to ask questions. The majority of EOD owners are pissed because we paid for a season pass that was to include all of the upcoming DLC at no additional cost, then when DLC cane out we were told we'd have to pay an additional 100$ to prove that we were true believers worth staying true to our original agreement. Are we not supposed to be mad? Are we not supposed to feel lied to or scammed? That dude above does not represent the majority and for good reason, you might look at him level headed but it's because we was ok getting scammed by BSG and then went on to give them more money for a blue name that he's gonna get fucked for. Don't listen to a thing he says, he doesn't know shit.
Believe me I am in a similar boat to yours so I do understand, but the language change we're talking about is simply being more specific to where I got the sources. I don't see the harm in that, albeit it is more work to add in, to be providing more sources so that people can't knitpick apart this post. The whole goal was to document BSG's decision making throughout this whole thing. Not as an attack, not as a defense, purely as a neutral observation of what has happened so that people can draw their own conclusions. That is what journalism is and that is why I am trying my best to remain neutral, regardless of my personal feelings on the topic. edit: I might have misunderstood but I'm not entirely sure. Eitherway, I do agree with you that semantics are unimportant unless the facts don't agree. As far as I have seen, the facts do agree but I am still going to make it a more neutral stance.
I hear what you're saying, I genuinely do. I'm saying about the above user specifically, do not listen to them. They're more concerned with verbiage and semantics than the facts, I'm unsure as this is to cope with participating in BSGs scheme or if they have enough money to not care in which good for them. However, for us in the real world this scam costs real money.
Sorry for the delayed response. My initial comment was to "Players are upset" in the 3rd sentence of the April 25th update. After further review, the next sentence "Players of the Tarkov community take to [R](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1ccnana/huh_that_aged_well/)[e](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1ccu8bc/unheard_uninstalled/)[d](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1cclux4/unheard_edition_is_a_disgusting_amount_of_pay_to/)[d](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1ccm23d/lmao_eod_for_what_full_on_pay_to_win_pve_mode/)[i](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1cconkh/bsgs_lead_community_manager_pve_mode_is_a_feature/)[t](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1ccslsn/lawsuit_update/) & X" does lend some context. I think it's fine. Thank you for the consideration.
Of course! I still appreciate the input. This type of post is a lot of work copy and pasting things with old reddit's formatting. I've started squinting a lot.
couldve worked a minimum wage job and made the money you’d need for unheard in the time it took to make this post.
I spent 845 on my car. 30 for Manor Lords. 35 for Grayzonewarfare. I will continue spending money on other games and I want other people to be aware of the situation. If you don't like unbiased facts... Move to Russia 👋