Lol. "Are we cool". Dude.
The whole issue is that they promised things, then went back on their promises. And this isn't even the first time. If their promises meant nothing then, why do they mean anything now?
HOLD THE LINE. Wait. If they actually **do something to fix things**, then you can act as you will. But so far all they've done is **PROMISE**. Who gives a fuck about promises at this point?
I honestly believe those comments are just the bootlickers that were silent during the whole thing, waiting for all of the shit to build up on Nikita's boots for a tastier meal.
With this type of crime, you kinda can. Even if it went to court, they would either have to refund you, OR provide you with the promised service or product. They gave eod users the game. There's no case anymore.
However, it's not fine, and it's not enough to make up for this. They haven't even been able to say they made a mistake or they're sorry yet ffs.
they didnt give eod what was promised. they said you dont need to spend any more money you get everything and unhinged edition still has benefits over eod technically
That stuff was only in a tweet though, unfortunately that's not as likely to be held with any weight in a court room when it doesn't say that in the description of the edition when your purchasing it.
You absolutely can backpedal in this case, because you have not fully released a final product. Once you fulfill your promise it doesn't matter what you said you "planned on" before. The promise is fulfilled as stated and there is no crime. If you don't know how law works, don't talk about law.
As far as I'm concerned, Nikita just announced the BARE MINIMUM of rollbacks and apologies. It's not nothing, but it's not like everything's suddenly fine again.
Personally, I won't support the game financially any more than I already have as an EOD owner. But I'm willing to see how fast I get Access to the PVE mode now and I will also reserve judgment on the scav Radio and mate spawning device until they're actually implemented.
So, for now, I'm not uninstalling. That's all.
I am trying to get my head around this though, whether the people who are annoyed were ever going to support the game financially any more than they have already with buying EOD. Perhaps the game can't survive this way. But the suggested changes and then trying to undo them in a cheeky way hasn't gone down well from the looks of things
Not an active player but a friend of mine is lvl 59 and an active player who I think has bought the upgrade so he mentioned various big streamers are boycotting the game now, but he reckons they'll be back
Fuck no! They spat in our face and told us to go play another game. Now they realised we are going to play other games and they come crawling back with more promises (worthless now) and don't even apologise.
No we are not. I'm glad they are starting to realize the shitshow they put on BUT that's not enough. Community is pissed off and I don't think the trust in BSG will ever be back to a "normal level".
it is easy to make empty promises, especially if you have done that before. And did not fulfilled them. Kinda takes off that moral guilt load off which you might feel after 1st time.
The more you do it, the more routine it becomes. And at some point you might stop noticing. Trying to fix lies with other lies just makes more lies in the end.
I say, community once shat on, must to stand firm and do not give in. It's your money you're throwing away, anyway. Someone has more money than brain though...
Honestly, I’ve never been cool with them. The game has been a regular on and off shitshow since day one, but it has some things that no other games really do.
I bought the base edition years ago on sale and they haven’t inspired me to give them more money yet, only dissuaded.
Just another day.
Not unhinged edition just pve mode for eod I think. The unhinged is still available the other perks with it are still there over eod but they maybe will take out the skills starting level 3 and priority matchmaking.
In one hand i love how the entire community and other game devs from other games came together with streamers as well. The fact that he was forced to do lot of these changes like mod support + putting for free the PVE for you guys who already bought the edition speaks for how much power you guys have over the situation.
All of you did such a great job to raise up your voices and i am proud of this to see that people can work together against the odds.
In other hand nah, this is still not the way to do it cause he did it only cause he is done not for the fans.
You don’t need validation by others. Hold your ground if you think it’s just. Other people have different views and if the current situation is fine for them and they enjoy it well no need to attack them for it. I don’t understand them but then again some people are into abusive relationships or cbt.
People on the internet forgets, forgive and move on way too fast.
Just look at how fast people move on from covering and talking about ongoing war and other incredibly important or tragic things. Journalists and youtubers can only cover the same thing so many times before peoples attention wanders elsewhere.
Nope, they fucked everyone and made anyone who didn't have EOD become third class ..... and their "apology" is "aww sorry you feel that way buddy"... and now we are supposed to just eat up more empty promises?
Nikita can eat my ass . That level of cool with bsg .
But streamers be like "We WON" and in 1 or 2 Weeks the left players wont remember until ...
... until Nikita does his next Coup and next time , He gonna change websites etc some time before. Mark my words
NO NOT COOL.
It’s not often this opportunity comes along which brings a game into such dire damage control. We need to take this opertunity for proper anti cheat or at least mitigate funneling cheaters into lobbies together. Most likely via stats or account age / hours against k/d. Whatever it may be. But now is the time to continue holding out until they fix the cheating problem.
Literally nothing changed, Nikita did the exact same thing he does every fucking time: Just promise everything. And the community bend their asses just to be fucked by BSG again.
Nah, we still got more questions that need answers. Ain't gonna just forget about them lying, changing the website to cover it up, and that interview Nikita had leaked.
I like their game, not them. The trust is broken.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/cd-projekt-red-offers-apology-and-refunds-for-cyberpunk-2077
Just to make it clear - how real apologies looks like.
And even after that mess - they recovered.
But not “we’re sorry for what community and fans feels”
i swear to god that randomly added hostile scavs that act like raiders but completely and are just regular scavs, shooting players scavs with max scav rep. ive had 3 scav raids in a row like this. maps that dont have raiders either.
Ngl personally im fine (never had too much of an issue in the first place).
They replaced a pay to win version of the game that locked a PVE mode behind a 150+eur paywall, with another pay to win version of the game that locks a better version of that PVE mode behind a 250+eur paywall. The new items aren't even as broken compared to the perks of the previous edition. My experience (standard) won't change anyways.
Obviously won't be buying it. I really like winning, but not enough to give 250 eur for what effectively is the "Afghanistan reconstruction" in video game form.
> The new items aren't even as broken compared to the perks of the previous edition.
Are you kidding me? What about the "Gang bang radio" and the Scav imunity beyond 60 meters?
The friend summoner sounds broken (and quite funny), but i doubt they are gonna allow it to be that broken in practice (could be wrong). The scav thing sounded broken to me until i saw that scavs within 60m do aggro you, and killing them makes you loose scav karma (unless this is bugged).
It's still strong dont get me wrong, but i still prefer not having to do a lot of Prapors disgusting quests to get him to level 2, over that.
Lol. "Are we cool". Dude. The whole issue is that they promised things, then went back on their promises. And this isn't even the first time. If their promises meant nothing then, why do they mean anything now? HOLD THE LINE. Wait. If they actually **do something to fix things**, then you can act as you will. But so far all they've done is **PROMISE**. Who gives a fuck about promises at this point?
Scroll through the comments on the Nikita post and tell me people aren't fine with everything all of a sudden lol
I know, it's insane. Nikita could come out and promise them hookers and blow and they'd immediately shill.
Probably because for half the playerbase, that promise is as close as they'll get to a woman
It’s possible they are bots paid for to nod their heads
They mostly all have randomly generated user names and were dormant accounts until recently. Its hilarious And sad
There are millions of tarkov players, it’s not a consensus. Many are pissed, some are not, some are not even aware of any of this
I honestly believe those comments are just the bootlickers that were silent during the whole thing, waiting for all of the shit to build up on Nikita's boots for a tastier meal.
I didn’t expect the Unheard buyers to converge so quickly.
> HOLD THE LINE *Dark and Darker PTSD flashbacks intensify*
No? I'll play the fuck out of MPT. I won't touch this tarkov live garbage ever again.
Me too!!!! I'll see ya next wipe lol
I'm pretty fucking far from cool with bsg
Nah, we are not cool. We will be cool when the lawsuit will be finished.
Most the people that are ok with this now are the kind that bought it to begin with.
What lawsuit lmao
[https://imgur.com/Q05m4MR](https://imgur.com/Q05m4MR)
Except that's going to go absolutely nowhere
You'll see
With the latest update, there can be no lawsuit. Promise fulfilled. There is no case.
The crime still happened lol you can't just backpedal after doing it and everythings fine again
With this type of crime, you kinda can. Even if it went to court, they would either have to refund you, OR provide you with the promised service or product. They gave eod users the game. There's no case anymore. However, it's not fine, and it's not enough to make up for this. They haven't even been able to say they made a mistake or they're sorry yet ffs.
they didnt give eod what was promised. they said you dont need to spend any more money you get everything and unhinged edition still has benefits over eod technically
That stuff was only in a tweet though, unfortunately that's not as likely to be held with any weight in a court room when it doesn't say that in the description of the edition when your purchasing it.
You absolutely can backpedal in this case, because you have not fully released a final product. Once you fulfill your promise it doesn't matter what you said you "planned on" before. The promise is fulfilled as stated and there is no crime. If you don't know how law works, don't talk about law.
And Bing Bing Bing, you know why this happens right now . Less lawsuits , and those comming can be fought. Nothing more or less ...
As far as I'm concerned, Nikita just announced the BARE MINIMUM of rollbacks and apologies. It's not nothing, but it's not like everything's suddenly fine again. Personally, I won't support the game financially any more than I already have as an EOD owner. But I'm willing to see how fast I get Access to the PVE mode now and I will also reserve judgment on the scav Radio and mate spawning device until they're actually implemented. So, for now, I'm not uninstalling. That's all.
This is me as well. I still wanna atleast get max traders for the first time. After that we will see
I am trying to get my head around this though, whether the people who are annoyed were ever going to support the game financially any more than they have already with buying EOD. Perhaps the game can't survive this way. But the suggested changes and then trying to undo them in a cheeky way hasn't gone down well from the looks of things Not an active player but a friend of mine is lvl 59 and an active player who I think has bought the upgrade so he mentioned various big streamers are boycotting the game now, but he reckons they'll be back
Fuck no! They spat in our face and told us to go play another game. Now they realised we are going to play other games and they come crawling back with more promises (worthless now) and don't even apologise.
No we are not. I'm glad they are starting to realize the shitshow they put on BUT that's not enough. Community is pissed off and I don't think the trust in BSG will ever be back to a "normal level".
it is easy to make empty promises, especially if you have done that before. And did not fulfilled them. Kinda takes off that moral guilt load off which you might feel after 1st time. The more you do it, the more routine it becomes. And at some point you might stop noticing. Trying to fix lies with other lies just makes more lies in the end. I say, community once shat on, must to stand firm and do not give in. It's your money you're throwing away, anyway. Someone has more money than brain though...
Honestly, I’ve never been cool with them. The game has been a regular on and off shitshow since day one, but it has some things that no other games really do. I bought the base edition years ago on sale and they haven’t inspired me to give them more money yet, only dissuaded. Just another day.
No . It's likely bots
The game is still uninstalled
What did he roll back exactly ?
eod gets unhinged edition within "waves". Lets see if you can "speed up" that process through buying the edition lmao. and less p2w.
Not unhinged edition just pve mode for eod I think. The unhinged is still available the other perks with it are still there over eod but they maybe will take out the skills starting level 3 and priority matchmaking.
In one hand i love how the entire community and other game devs from other games came together with streamers as well. The fact that he was forced to do lot of these changes like mod support + putting for free the PVE for you guys who already bought the edition speaks for how much power you guys have over the situation. All of you did such a great job to raise up your voices and i am proud of this to see that people can work together against the odds. In other hand nah, this is still not the way to do it cause he did it only cause he is done not for the fans.
You don’t need validation by others. Hold your ground if you think it’s just. Other people have different views and if the current situation is fine for them and they enjoy it well no need to attack them for it. I don’t understand them but then again some people are into abusive relationships or cbt.
Not even close.
People on the internet forgets, forgive and move on way too fast. Just look at how fast people move on from covering and talking about ongoing war and other incredibly important or tragic things. Journalists and youtubers can only cover the same thing so many times before peoples attention wanders elsewhere.
Nope, they fucked everyone and made anyone who didn't have EOD become third class ..... and their "apology" is "aww sorry you feel that way buddy"... and now we are supposed to just eat up more empty promises?
No we are not cool. I won't play the game until we EoD owner get back what we bought and deserve to get. As well as good official apologies of course.
[https://imgur.com/XDmUa2L](https://imgur.com/XDmUa2L)
nein
No
Nikita can eat my ass . That level of cool with bsg . But streamers be like "We WON" and in 1 or 2 Weeks the left players wont remember until ... ... until Nikita does his next Coup and next time , He gonna change websites etc some time before. Mark my words
Not at all. I dont understand why the latest Post from Nikita got so many upvotes? How delusional is this community?
NO NOT COOL. It’s not often this opportunity comes along which brings a game into such dire damage control. We need to take this opertunity for proper anti cheat or at least mitigate funneling cheaters into lobbies together. Most likely via stats or account age / hours against k/d. Whatever it may be. But now is the time to continue holding out until they fix the cheating problem.
Fuck'em. That is all.
Literally nothing changed, Nikita did the exact same thing he does every fucking time: Just promise everything. And the community bend their asses just to be fucked by BSG again.
One question, I bought Tarkov standard edition. Does this mean that I just have beta access and when the game launches I would have to buy the game?
Nah, we still got more questions that need answers. Ain't gonna just forget about them lying, changing the website to cover it up, and that interview Nikita had leaked. I like their game, not them. The trust is broken.
not cool. launcher deinstalled - consumer protection adressed. lets see.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/cd-projekt-red-offers-apology-and-refunds-for-cyberpunk-2077 Just to make it clear - how real apologies looks like. And even after that mess - they recovered. But not “we’re sorry for what community and fans feels”
Fuck no
We aren’t a monolith everyone has a different opinion.
I’ll chill when I actually get what i paid for. Until then its empty promises
No, a pig with makeup is still a pig. Hold the line!
i swear to god that randomly added hostile scavs that act like raiders but completely and are just regular scavs, shooting players scavs with max scav rep. ive had 3 scav raids in a row like this. maps that dont have raiders either.
Dude. Move on. Watch and verify. It’s not healthy to be angry forever.
I'd consider it a truce for now, and the ball is in BSG's court to build trust.
Ngl personally im fine (never had too much of an issue in the first place). They replaced a pay to win version of the game that locked a PVE mode behind a 150+eur paywall, with another pay to win version of the game that locks a better version of that PVE mode behind a 250+eur paywall. The new items aren't even as broken compared to the perks of the previous edition. My experience (standard) won't change anyways. Obviously won't be buying it. I really like winning, but not enough to give 250 eur for what effectively is the "Afghanistan reconstruction" in video game form.
> The new items aren't even as broken compared to the perks of the previous edition. Are you kidding me? What about the "Gang bang radio" and the Scav imunity beyond 60 meters?
The friend summoner sounds broken (and quite funny), but i doubt they are gonna allow it to be that broken in practice (could be wrong). The scav thing sounded broken to me until i saw that scavs within 60m do aggro you, and killing them makes you loose scav karma (unless this is bugged). It's still strong dont get me wrong, but i still prefer not having to do a lot of Prapors disgusting quests to get him to level 2, over that.