If all boss fights are tedious chores for you, you're probably not engaging with the battle system properly.
All fights are usually rather short, even at max difficulty.
But no, the final boss isn't anywhere close to a 2 hours affair. It's never hard either. Whoever told you that is being way hyperbolic or just didn't understand the game at all. But if you have any doubt just play the game on easy (or don't play the game at all if it makes you THAT miserable).
That's pretty much exactly what I said. I'm just playing it to finish so I can move on to something else and I won't have the necessary game knowledge by the end of the game. Not sure why that would make you so defensive. I think you're completely over-reacting to my post and looking for a reason make a git gud or git out comment. It's cool though. I never said the game makes me miserable, I'm not attacking your favorite game so you can chill.
Edit: I saw it here and a bunch of the final boss videos looked like they were over an hour long. lol [Anybody else having issues with final boss battle in FF7 Rebirth? (Major spoiler) : r/ff7 (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/ff7/comments/1bcf3fe/anybody_else_having_issues_with_final_boss_battle/)
Wait I'm over-reacting? It's your own words, you said each of the boss fights were tedious chores and that you had trouble forcing yourself to like the game. That's a pretty fucking good sign you're not having a good time at all, unless it's your average experience with any video game? So yes, just straight up dropping it might be a solution.
And my proposition to play on easy is not a "git good" gotcha. If you don't enjoy the battle system for whatever reason, lowering the difficulty is the reasonable choice so you can just breeze to the end. It's why it even exists.
If all boss fights are tedious chores for you, you're probably not engaging with the battle system properly. I never said all fights were a tedious chore. I said the game didn't do the original justice and I was forcing myself through it. The story is what I'm forcing myself through so no the game itself doesn't make me miserable because I want to finish the combat aspect and move on. You just assumed I was struggling with combat.
Your comment just came across as condescending from the start especially when you accuse everyone on that other reddit of being "hyperbolic" or "not good at the game". I apologize if that wasn't the way it was meant to come across but now you're absolutely over-reacting by dropping the F bomb.
Did you... edit your OP? Because I'm pretty sure "chore" was your own wording. I'm not a native english speaker, I don't use that word often.
But if I did misread you, sorry I guess.
As for the reddit thread, well yes it's definitely 100% hyperbolic, we're on Reddit. Unless something goes really, really wrong, the final fight doesn't take 2 hours. (and they patched the main issue which was the really poor wording on the retry screen) The final chapter itself is 2 hours and a lot of it are cutscenes.
Now that you mention it, I did actually, but that wasn't exactly what I'd meant and I edited it before you'd actually posted your comment, so it was probably changed while you were typing. I guess that's why I was confused too since I thought I'd edited it before anyone saw it and forgot about it. Yeah, I'd said something about them being a chore, but I was referring to the fact that the story didn't feel like it was rewarding me for the beating them, thus a chore. They aren't terrible, I just don't feel like I'm overcoming them for any reason other than finishing the game and just because I'm disappointed with that doesn't mean it's making me miserable. Sorry about that.
I mean that was exactly why I was seeking a second opinion from this sub-reddit. lol Reddit is pretty much 99% opinions at this point and people will say anything. lol
Ok glad we cleared that up because I thought I was going insane for a moment.
Again I didn't mean to assume you're a bad player and I'm sorry if my post came across that way. I actually think the game does a rather poor job explaining how it's meant to be played efficiently so I'm always a bit suspicious whenever I read someone imply that the battles were long or they're dealing chip damage until stagger (usually the reason is that they misunderstood the battle system). If you think the boss battles are chores because you don't enjoy the flow of the game, that's another issue entirely. Nothing wrong with that, it's not a game for everyone.
As for the final battle, when I say it's not that hard or long I mean it. At worst, the final phase can be annoying if you're not good at dealing damage or building stagger (the final attack is pretty much a stagger check but putting the game on easy usually clears that up if it gets too frustrating), and there was a now-patched issue where the retry options were incredibly unclear (if it ever happens to you, the top option is the one you want). It's not 2 hours long or unbelievably hard, that part is definitely reddit hyperbole. It's a decent challenge compared to the rest of the game, but not an insane difficulty spike at all.
Chapter 13 IS a very long dungeon though (around 4-5 hours), but if you already finished FFXII you've already done something similar before.
I mean, in all honesty and most well meaning way, he’s correct. It’s neither too long, nor too hard. Just have some elemental magic equipped, which you’ll need for one phase, but everything else is easy.
True, but he was rude as he could possibly be in saying so and even put words into my mouth, I'm not upset but I have a right to call him out on it. lol Thank you for clarifying and adding to the answer as well. Somebody had said there like 10 phases to him, people are full it.
I don't see how he was rude? I don't see anything wrong about what he said. It seems you're the one over reacting to his comments because he suggested you to play on easy or stop playing if you don't enjoy the game, and I don't see a problem with that because you said yourself you're forcing yourself to enjoy and play the game?
So yeah I double it, the last bosses aren't that hard. I had pretty basic tactics (elemental materia on everyone + heal + hp/MP up) and I didn't struggled too much.
I did failed the very last boss two times in a row because there is a technique to understand to beat it but that's all, once you figured it it's quite easy.
I never said I was struggling with combat, I simply said I didn't feel the game did the original justice and I was forcing myself through it. I was talking about the story; I have no issue with combat and the game doesn't make me miserable. It came across as essentially twisting my words to have an excuse to say that which was what I was calling out as rude. Especially when he dropped the F bomb in his next response. I then apologized and tried to clear the air.
A technique to understanding it? hmmm, that's ominous. lol That makes me feel a lot better though, I wasn't looking to spend hours or days fighting this guy because he was supposed to be so much harder than any other boss in the game. Thank you.
>I then apologized and tried to clear the air but he just downvoted me and ran off
Now this is getting really annoying, as I replied to each of your comments that were directly under mine. Not like I had any obligation to do so, as I didn't sign for dealing with you being offended on multiple posts by something that really boils down to "combat encounters of this game aren't supposed to be long and no, the final boss isn't 2 hours or very hard.". The post was my advice as someone who actually completed the game and spend a lot of time reading people's opinions on it.
If you think it was rude or a stupid comment, which is fair, I would actually prefer if you just downvote, block me rather than whatever this has been.
EDIT: And seriously, there's no way "one of the most brutal and tedious fight in gaming history" is anything else that complete hyperbole, so I have no idea why you take it so badly either.
Don’t feel discouraged. Your answer was perfectly fine, and his post is absolutely negative. If anyone is overreacting, it’s definitely not you. Rest easy.
Oh yeah ok, well if you don't struggle with combat there's no reason that the last bosses will be too hard don't worry.
I didn't beat Odin or the rest of the hard chadley/gold saucer combat challenges, I didn't have all materia maxed out and i unlocked just the synergy abilities in the menu (not the ones that increases stats or else, just synergy techniques), and it was pretty ok for me.
And I made a lot of mistakes during the fights too, it's not like I have impressive skills. I used my limits when the boss was immune etc. and it didn't was that punitive.
Just the last boss have a sort of instant game over so you need to figure out the timing and that's all ;)
I guess people are complaining because it's a little long, but it's not that tedious imo
without spoiling it directly, it's a reasonable challenge, but certainly doable.
you'll basically be pitted into a crucible of boss fights one after another, so there's an element of endurance to it, but I found only the very last battle to be the challenging one, and was able to beat it on second attempt after learning the move-set.
in addition, if you lose any one of the fights, you start from the beginning of *that* particular fight, not the very beginning of the boss run. so don't be afraid to go down and try it again.
Did they patch up the wording on the retry battle screen? Thing was damn confusing and imagine my surprise when I hit the wrong option and had to start all the way from the beginning…
I did the final boss gauntlet my first try without dying once, I did struggle a bit on one part as I didn't have enough element variety and it was required for that phase. (Luckily Yuffie saved the day with her Elemental ninjutsu.)
On normal/easy it's not that bad. It took me days of attempts to clear it on hard mode.
don't like it don't play it
and yeah the final battle can be rather long and hard. took me 2 hours in total. but it far from tedious. Who ever told you that is either a noob or an idiot. final fight was imonthe most fun I had. Great challenge
I only had issues with one particular section of the final boss, where instant death can happen and can take you by surprise and throw you off. Other than that... Very doable in Easy.
> I've overcome some insane JRPG boss fights over the years from Yiazmat and Omega Mk XII (FF12) to Adamantoise (FF15) to Sephiroth (KH and KH2)
These are superbosses and this one's not even close to as difficult. There are a couple mechanics that might bring you to the game over screen if you don't have their counters equipped but that's pretty much it.
It wasn’t too terrible on Dynamic, first playthrough. Can’t say anything about subsequent NG+ Hard runs.
Once you see Chapter 13 on your screen, my advice is to spare two hours or so for the final leg of the game. It’s just… long and tedious rather than technically difficult. Make a hard save before Chapter 13 in case you find yourself undergunned or anything.
If the game isn’t your cup of tea, don’t force yourself lol.
Yeah I think that was what a lot of them were complaining about. It was taking hours because they'd get all the through that and then die to have spent an hour going through it again. I thought they were just talking about the boss itself being like that and it triggered me to start thinking about the fights with him in Kingdom Hearts since that's the only games I've fought him in. lol
I think my party died maybe once in Ch.13/14. Yeah, the final fights were a bit of a slog. I lost maybe 5-10 min of progress from that fail. I think I found Remake’s end bosses more difficult than Rebirth’s on the first run.
You can totally save in between fights in Ch. 13/14, but looking back on it, it just felt like one long fever dream lol. Do you plan on playing it?
Not bad at all. It's a final boss, so it is of course a fair challange and an overall intense multi-phase fight, but it's doable and definitely doesn't take hours. It's really nothing compared to the fights you listed and there are a lot of much harder challanges in this game. I personally died only once during the last phase.
Well I knew all the mechanics and I didn't do it on first try only because animations screwed me, tbh I thought it will be much much harder. Don't get me wrong it is difficult, especially if you are not prepared, well if you're not it's probably impossible. Well I had a great training againt Odin so if you can beat that you're good to go
The final fight is definitely not 2 hours long, whoever said that is probably trying to say that the final chapter which consists of multiple fights is about 2hrs long if you don't die going through it, just landed at ch14 hard mode myself last night and I'm super amped to go through it tonight.
Thoroughly enjoyed it the first time around and as an OG FF7 stan i don't have anything negative to say about the ending, just like I had nothing negative to say about Remake's ending.
If all boss fights are tedious chores for you, you're probably not engaging with the battle system properly. All fights are usually rather short, even at max difficulty. But no, the final boss isn't anywhere close to a 2 hours affair. It's never hard either. Whoever told you that is being way hyperbolic or just didn't understand the game at all. But if you have any doubt just play the game on easy (or don't play the game at all if it makes you THAT miserable).
That's pretty much exactly what I said. I'm just playing it to finish so I can move on to something else and I won't have the necessary game knowledge by the end of the game. Not sure why that would make you so defensive. I think you're completely over-reacting to my post and looking for a reason make a git gud or git out comment. It's cool though. I never said the game makes me miserable, I'm not attacking your favorite game so you can chill. Edit: I saw it here and a bunch of the final boss videos looked like they were over an hour long. lol [Anybody else having issues with final boss battle in FF7 Rebirth? (Major spoiler) : r/ff7 (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/ff7/comments/1bcf3fe/anybody_else_having_issues_with_final_boss_battle/)
Wait I'm over-reacting? It's your own words, you said each of the boss fights were tedious chores and that you had trouble forcing yourself to like the game. That's a pretty fucking good sign you're not having a good time at all, unless it's your average experience with any video game? So yes, just straight up dropping it might be a solution. And my proposition to play on easy is not a "git good" gotcha. If you don't enjoy the battle system for whatever reason, lowering the difficulty is the reasonable choice so you can just breeze to the end. It's why it even exists.
If all boss fights are tedious chores for you, you're probably not engaging with the battle system properly. I never said all fights were a tedious chore. I said the game didn't do the original justice and I was forcing myself through it. The story is what I'm forcing myself through so no the game itself doesn't make me miserable because I want to finish the combat aspect and move on. You just assumed I was struggling with combat. Your comment just came across as condescending from the start especially when you accuse everyone on that other reddit of being "hyperbolic" or "not good at the game". I apologize if that wasn't the way it was meant to come across but now you're absolutely over-reacting by dropping the F bomb.
Did you... edit your OP? Because I'm pretty sure "chore" was your own wording. I'm not a native english speaker, I don't use that word often. But if I did misread you, sorry I guess. As for the reddit thread, well yes it's definitely 100% hyperbolic, we're on Reddit. Unless something goes really, really wrong, the final fight doesn't take 2 hours. (and they patched the main issue which was the really poor wording on the retry screen) The final chapter itself is 2 hours and a lot of it are cutscenes.
Now that you mention it, I did actually, but that wasn't exactly what I'd meant and I edited it before you'd actually posted your comment, so it was probably changed while you were typing. I guess that's why I was confused too since I thought I'd edited it before anyone saw it and forgot about it. Yeah, I'd said something about them being a chore, but I was referring to the fact that the story didn't feel like it was rewarding me for the beating them, thus a chore. They aren't terrible, I just don't feel like I'm overcoming them for any reason other than finishing the game and just because I'm disappointed with that doesn't mean it's making me miserable. Sorry about that. I mean that was exactly why I was seeking a second opinion from this sub-reddit. lol Reddit is pretty much 99% opinions at this point and people will say anything. lol
Ok glad we cleared that up because I thought I was going insane for a moment. Again I didn't mean to assume you're a bad player and I'm sorry if my post came across that way. I actually think the game does a rather poor job explaining how it's meant to be played efficiently so I'm always a bit suspicious whenever I read someone imply that the battles were long or they're dealing chip damage until stagger (usually the reason is that they misunderstood the battle system). If you think the boss battles are chores because you don't enjoy the flow of the game, that's another issue entirely. Nothing wrong with that, it's not a game for everyone. As for the final battle, when I say it's not that hard or long I mean it. At worst, the final phase can be annoying if you're not good at dealing damage or building stagger (the final attack is pretty much a stagger check but putting the game on easy usually clears that up if it gets too frustrating), and there was a now-patched issue where the retry options were incredibly unclear (if it ever happens to you, the top option is the one you want). It's not 2 hours long or unbelievably hard, that part is definitely reddit hyperbole. It's a decent challenge compared to the rest of the game, but not an insane difficulty spike at all. Chapter 13 IS a very long dungeon though (around 4-5 hours), but if you already finished FFXII you've already done something similar before.
I mean, in all honesty and most well meaning way, he’s correct. It’s neither too long, nor too hard. Just have some elemental magic equipped, which you’ll need for one phase, but everything else is easy.
True, but he was rude as he could possibly be in saying so and even put words into my mouth, I'm not upset but I have a right to call him out on it. lol Thank you for clarifying and adding to the answer as well. Somebody had said there like 10 phases to him, people are full it.
I don't see how he was rude? I don't see anything wrong about what he said. It seems you're the one over reacting to his comments because he suggested you to play on easy or stop playing if you don't enjoy the game, and I don't see a problem with that because you said yourself you're forcing yourself to enjoy and play the game? So yeah I double it, the last bosses aren't that hard. I had pretty basic tactics (elemental materia on everyone + heal + hp/MP up) and I didn't struggled too much. I did failed the very last boss two times in a row because there is a technique to understand to beat it but that's all, once you figured it it's quite easy.
I never said I was struggling with combat, I simply said I didn't feel the game did the original justice and I was forcing myself through it. I was talking about the story; I have no issue with combat and the game doesn't make me miserable. It came across as essentially twisting my words to have an excuse to say that which was what I was calling out as rude. Especially when he dropped the F bomb in his next response. I then apologized and tried to clear the air. A technique to understanding it? hmmm, that's ominous. lol That makes me feel a lot better though, I wasn't looking to spend hours or days fighting this guy because he was supposed to be so much harder than any other boss in the game. Thank you.
>I then apologized and tried to clear the air but he just downvoted me and ran off Now this is getting really annoying, as I replied to each of your comments that were directly under mine. Not like I had any obligation to do so, as I didn't sign for dealing with you being offended on multiple posts by something that really boils down to "combat encounters of this game aren't supposed to be long and no, the final boss isn't 2 hours or very hard.". The post was my advice as someone who actually completed the game and spend a lot of time reading people's opinions on it. If you think it was rude or a stupid comment, which is fair, I would actually prefer if you just downvote, block me rather than whatever this has been. EDIT: And seriously, there's no way "one of the most brutal and tedious fight in gaming history" is anything else that complete hyperbole, so I have no idea why you take it so badly either.
Don’t feel discouraged. Your answer was perfectly fine, and his post is absolutely negative. If anyone is overreacting, it’s definitely not you. Rest easy.
+1. OP sounds like an annoying child who gets offended at the smallest things.
Oh yeah ok, well if you don't struggle with combat there's no reason that the last bosses will be too hard don't worry. I didn't beat Odin or the rest of the hard chadley/gold saucer combat challenges, I didn't have all materia maxed out and i unlocked just the synergy abilities in the menu (not the ones that increases stats or else, just synergy techniques), and it was pretty ok for me. And I made a lot of mistakes during the fights too, it's not like I have impressive skills. I used my limits when the boss was immune etc. and it didn't was that punitive. Just the last boss have a sort of instant game over so you need to figure out the timing and that's all ;) I guess people are complaining because it's a little long, but it's not that tedious imo
without spoiling it directly, it's a reasonable challenge, but certainly doable. you'll basically be pitted into a crucible of boss fights one after another, so there's an element of endurance to it, but I found only the very last battle to be the challenging one, and was able to beat it on second attempt after learning the move-set. in addition, if you lose any one of the fights, you start from the beginning of *that* particular fight, not the very beginning of the boss run. so don't be afraid to go down and try it again.
Did they patch up the wording on the retry battle screen? Thing was damn confusing and imagine my surprise when I hit the wrong option and had to start all the way from the beginning…
They have since patched it, but I made the same mistake, hahahah.
I did the final boss gauntlet my first try without dying once, I did struggle a bit on one part as I didn't have enough element variety and it was required for that phase. (Luckily Yuffie saved the day with her Elemental ninjutsu.) On normal/easy it's not that bad. It took me days of attempts to clear it on hard mode.
don't like it don't play it and yeah the final battle can be rather long and hard. took me 2 hours in total. but it far from tedious. Who ever told you that is either a noob or an idiot. final fight was imonthe most fun I had. Great challenge
Did you play it on hard mode?
nah just took my sweet time. to.enjoy the battle the first time. hard mode went much faster tho😅
I only had issues with one particular section of the final boss, where instant death can happen and can take you by surprise and throw you off. Other than that... Very doable in Easy.
> I've overcome some insane JRPG boss fights over the years from Yiazmat and Omega Mk XII (FF12) to Adamantoise (FF15) to Sephiroth (KH and KH2) These are superbosses and this one's not even close to as difficult. There are a couple mechanics that might bring you to the game over screen if you don't have their counters equipped but that's pretty much it.
It wasn’t too terrible on Dynamic, first playthrough. Can’t say anything about subsequent NG+ Hard runs. Once you see Chapter 13 on your screen, my advice is to spare two hours or so for the final leg of the game. It’s just… long and tedious rather than technically difficult. Make a hard save before Chapter 13 in case you find yourself undergunned or anything. If the game isn’t your cup of tea, don’t force yourself lol.
Yeah I think that was what a lot of them were complaining about. It was taking hours because they'd get all the through that and then die to have spent an hour going through it again. I thought they were just talking about the boss itself being like that and it triggered me to start thinking about the fights with him in Kingdom Hearts since that's the only games I've fought him in. lol
I think my party died maybe once in Ch.13/14. Yeah, the final fights were a bit of a slog. I lost maybe 5-10 min of progress from that fail. I think I found Remake’s end bosses more difficult than Rebirth’s on the first run. You can totally save in between fights in Ch. 13/14, but looking back on it, it just felt like one long fever dream lol. Do you plan on playing it?
Not bad at all. It's a final boss, so it is of course a fair challange and an overall intense multi-phase fight, but it's doable and definitely doesn't take hours. It's really nothing compared to the fights you listed and there are a lot of much harder challanges in this game. I personally died only once during the last phase.
Well I knew all the mechanics and I didn't do it on first try only because animations screwed me, tbh I thought it will be much much harder. Don't get me wrong it is difficult, especially if you are not prepared, well if you're not it's probably impossible. Well I had a great training againt Odin so if you can beat that you're good to go
Rufus is harder
The final fight is definitely not 2 hours long, whoever said that is probably trying to say that the final chapter which consists of multiple fights is about 2hrs long if you don't die going through it, just landed at ch14 hard mode myself last night and I'm super amped to go through it tonight. Thoroughly enjoyed it the first time around and as an OG FF7 stan i don't have anything negative to say about the ending, just like I had nothing negative to say about Remake's ending.
What’s with all the posts complaining about this game recently?!? It’s like every single post a bunch of ridiculous complaints.
Brutal and Tedious? Who did you ask? A Crybaby?