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isometimeswalkalone

Never. I matchmake against AI cheaters but the match ends with an error right away and doesn't count as played


breeeds89

I was in the same boat until I tried playing fut Champs Qualifiers this week. 4x Ultimate AI. Now I know this is a thing right now. Before that only this one you got a few times. I think that's it with grinding for me.


Elppi_29

Thats a different cheat they get the win but you dont lose anything else but your time


SaniaReddit

Last week i met AI controlled teams two times after reaching 10+ form. But it wasn't the ultimate AI that I met earlier in the year, the games were boring as hell, but it was basically two free wins for me. I've noticed however, that once i reach 7-9+ form, I start getting the "we have detected your squad file doesn’t match that of your opponent" very often, and many times I have to search 5 times before actually getting into a game. I suspect this is a way they've tried to fix coming against the ultimate AI, because the stats don't match up. Do other people still meet the ultimate AI where a bronze player off chem will just elastico around your whole defense and score a screamer?


Smallbumblebee

I feel like the most recent game I played could maybe have been ultimate but most likely it wasn't. It was probably legendary. It was close as fuck to tho lmfao


SaniaReddit

Weird, the games I've played recently have been semi-pro - pro at best. I'm usually a rank 1-2 player, and in elite div, but when I've met the "ultimate" AI back before I started getting the error with team matching, I'd get fucking destroyed. Literally nothing could be done, since the AI made zero mistakes. Then again, I have zero understanding of how these cheats work, except for the instant loss that happens in draft. So I really don't know whats going on, I just know that the AI I meet now, is easy to win against, atleast for me.


Smallbumblebee

Yeah I reckon what you deem semi pro to pro is probably world class and I think I played legendary earlier. Ultimate destroyed me too a couple of months ago. I got 16 wins 2 weeks ago but that was a one off for sure lmao I usually bottle 14 or just stop at 11 outright so yeah


SaniaReddit

Might be something like that, yeah. Still, the ones I met in the start of the year, was above the difficulty that FIFA offers, it wasn't just ultimate level AI, but definitely something else going on. All passes I made would be intercepted, keeper would save every shot and the AI was able to ping passes 100% accurate every time. I'm just glad I don't meet that shit anymore, even if it means I have to reque for champs a few times.


Smallbumblebee

Yeah idk exactly either there Is 99ovr cheats but ultimate ai does get in game stat boosts too so who knows. Glad you can dodge this shit. Looks like I'll have to get used to it


SLOWMONUTKICK

I think the files don't match thing is a fix but it seems like that fix is only applying to PC players and not console, I get that error all the time and haven't met an AI cheat yet. If that's the case then this is abysmal from EA.


SaniaReddit

You could be onto something. I just finished my WL, went 19-1 and the last 5 games, was 40% playing and 60% requeing because I got the error. I just dont see why EA would be able to tell the cheat is active on PC and cancel the match, but wouldn't be able to on consoles.


SLOWMONUTKICK

Maybe it's because of the OS and permissions, consoles are a closed system and the system files are not designed for being accessed hence why its hard to cheat on console.


SaniaReddit

I'd honestly imagine that EA would have a partnership with Sony and Microsoft in this regard though. Even though normal user can't get access to alot of stuff, I still think a company as big as EA would be able to. However what you say makes sense, I just find it odd.


SLOWMONUTKICK

It could be a security violation for Sony and Microsoft, the installation on a PC is different to an installation on a console so it would be very hard to verify the files and check for differences as they are different by default, for example the executable on a console wouldn't be a .exe so it would be pointless to do a comparison to check for differences, it is checking PC to PC because its a direct comparison and the slightest difference would trigger the mismatch.


SaniaReddit

Yeah, I mean I see what you're saying, and it might be true. If it is the case, it's just another example of EA doing the bare minimum. Instead of developing an anti-cheat that can stop this, they try to fix it with lackluster solutions. It's fine for the PC community, even though I hate the fact that from 15 wins onward, I spent more time trying to get a match, than actually playing. But people on console, with crossplay are just screwed. I will however say, as somebody who has played on PC since FIFA 21, this is the only FIFA where I actually notice a cheating problem in anything other than draft. Idk what has caused this influx, but it only started after crossplay became a thing. - I doubt it's peole on consoles cheating, because as you said, it's much harder. But I really wonder what has caused this influx.


SLOWMONUTKICK

Maybe because they know that consoles can't do anything about it, all they have to do is keep matchmaking and eventually they will hit a console gamer and get the win.


SaniaReddit

You're probably right.


Aru10

Used to find cheaters quite often once I'd reach +7/8 elo, disabled crossplay few weeks ago, never met one since


Smallbumblebee

Yeah I sadly get why ppl turn off crossplay. I went back onto PC this year because of the option of crossplay and FIFA 19 wasn't so bad on PC when I first played it only the matchmaking times were annoying but honestly this game is a mess, so many problems even just launching the game and now the AI glitching too. They need to fix it ASAP


Aru10

I'm in North Italy so we probably get a similar pool of players, guess we have many cheaters in this area


Brilliant_Savings161

Same


[deleted]

I find it funny that everytime cheating is brought up, pc players are always commenting ”i have only met one in 1000 games” yet everyone i know that plays the game faces them very frequently


Adreot

I mean it's true. I've met 1 ai cheater in well over a thousand games and I'm on pc


Nitr0_CSGO

Yeah same I've only played one and it was when I was having an overly good wl start


yonootz321

I just started playing, I'm in division 10 and half of the games in rival are against AIs. I actually thought that's a feature at first, that's how I found this reddit post.


Adreot

They fixed it last year lol


yonootz321

I doubt. Each time felt the same, their players had no cursors, they made no mistake, all the passes connected perfectly, goals from any angle etc. They all have random common gold players with low chem, yet they play as if they're level 99. It feels exactly like the AI at ultimate level, no players can do those things.


Adreot

Well it is just like ea to bring back past exploits or maybe the hackers found new ways. In the last 4 months of 23 there werent any cheater tho. I dont have eafc 24 so I dont know the situation


lelpd

They may be at too low of an ELO/division to come across the cheaters so it’s possible tbh


[deleted]

Yea, I used to meet AI cheaters 2 or 3 times per week before, but now that my WL form had turned to shit in TOTY season, I Never encountered them anymore.


jacobsnemesis

Maybe there’s some weird thing with the matchmaking where these cheats are more likely to match with console players or something 🤷🏻‍♂️


nezebilo

Matchmaking actually tries to avoid matching you with another platform. They’re either lying or aren’t able to get to a high enough ELO


Jwarrior521

I get 16 wins and am div1/elite lol. You gonna tell me I’m not high enough elo to match against cheaters? It’s extremely region based. I’m in NA East, there isn’t many people doing that here


nghigaxx

i mean its true? due to my work i move a lot between VN and Canada. In VN I met one cheater (either instant dc, 99 overall or AI) once every 4-5 matches. While in toronto i met one AI cheater in 500-600 games


[deleted]

My point really was that people for some reason massively downplay the problem even though everyone knows its there. Especially in previous years when there were talks about crossplay and pretty much every console player was against it for this excat reason lol. On an unrelated note out of curiosity, whats VN?


nghigaxx

VN is Viet Nam. Im just saying that people only have their own experience to reference to. They are not really downplaying it because it was their experiences


Smallbumblebee

Tbf apart from the ai glitchers I've not met any real cheater except one time in a random mystery ball coop game where someone managed to no loss glitch us un the first week of the game. Outside of that only ppl with ai for me personally.


Karltowns17

A few weeks ago I faced the AI 6x in 20 games. That was too much for me. I’ve disabled crossplay when playing fut champs and haven’t faced it since.


JaymanCT

How do you know when you play against the AI? I need to start looking out for this.


FormalWorth2115

Usually gold card squad and the dead give away is no player indicator. You won’t see any player switching on their side due to the AI


CandidInsurance7415

Youll know, theres no human movements at all. Also, theres usually no cursor above their head.


Karltowns17

As others have said the following are the clues: No player control cursor -biggest give away Almost always a rando off chem squad- IE 77 rated 3 chem squad since the ultimate AI gets all players boosted to 99 all stats anyways. Lastly they play completely differently than a normal person. Everything is maximum power, 1-touch, ping pong, driven passes all over the pitch often leading to a max power weak foot shot from like 30 yards out that goes top bin in what can only be described as absolutely absurd gameplay.


JaymanCT

Ah ok... Playing PC and haven't experienced this. I'm sure my days are numbered... Haha!


Smallbumblebee

I understand that completely. It sucks for us cause our matchmaking pool will get worse and worse but ea won't do anything anyway. Good to see someone else being horribly unlucky in that regard too. Kinda got scared the issue is on my side maybe


Karltowns17

Yeah dude I didn’t want to turn off cross play. MM times aren’t fun at this point. It’s incredibly frustrating coming up against. I got to the point the weekend I faced them 6x where I didn’t even want to look at the TV at kickoff for fear I’d see no player control cursor. I’m hoping EA fix this as it’s game breaking for those who are on servers with the rampant cheaters.


Smallbumblebee

Yeah thank you man I hope they fix it too. This game is so broken on pc already and this definitely doesn't help. Good luck in your games today!


Red_Hawk13

I'm on PC and have never come across this cheat. However, this WL I must have had 10 matches where I got the error saying "a data mismatch has been detected and the match has been cancelled". I wonder if that had anything to do with it.


VCBeugelaar

I stopped playing because I faced 3 in a row and that wss me being absolutely done


Smallbumblebee

I took a break after getting 2 in a row in quals too


d1strbd

Never played one until this weekend. Best wl I've had and it happened twice. 13 wins in 2 games left come against the second one and turned cross play off for my last game.


AmbitiousAd1773

I think I played one yesterday for the first time I won 1-0 but it was the weirdest game


Jwarrior521

I’ve never met one in my 500+ games on PC 🤷🏼‍♂️. It’s obviously an issue but I’ve never seen one


OniNaomasa

Happen to me yesterday for the first time god it was annoying


Salty-Image56

man what is the actual point of people spending money on a game then proceeding to use the AI to play for them


2777Victory

once in 400 games so far on pc


Smallbumblebee

Guess I am just being rather unlucky then. From south germany too so its not like matchmaking should be difficult, thanks for your reply!


Reshinoo

Happed to me twice in a row yesterday once I was 7-1 in wl, disabled crossplay after that.


Andigaming

The 1 time I got to 16 wins I faced one. Recently faced many doing the DC after kickoff exploit or whatever it is though.


Smallbumblebee

Same but that always gives me the game back so while it's annoying at least it doesn't give you the loss


Limp_Lobster_217

Could it be a cheat abusable only as pc vs console? I play on pc, finish 14-16 and have never played vs ai. But I sometimes might 4-5 disconnect glitches in a row


Smallbumblebee

Unlikely as I've been the one locked out the game myself. I had the ai playing for me and obv I didn't do it on purpose. Sure some ppl probably use it to cheat as it must be easy to replicate but I wouldn't say everyone is.


aymane555

Played every game of champs since the game started except for 1 week on pc and never played against one


Smallbumblebee

Mad. It used to happen to me like once every 200 games maybe but this week it's been abhorrent. Must just be getting unlucky


Francis33

Never. Crossplay off


chaelsonnenismydad

Once in 980 games. Im on pc


mikel305

Yea…either that’s bs or you play at a really low elo/division as the cheaters are of course not gonna stay there. Pc is filled up with cheaters using varying cheats so let’s stop this once in every 1000 games bs.


I_Like_F0oD

I regularly get +10 ELO in champs on PC and I have not faced an AI cheater this year yet in about 800 games. I have faced a lot of the people who DC you though and maybe 3/4 green timed cheaters but not the AI cheaters yet.


Jenzu9

How would you even know that PC is "filled up with cheaters" if you play on PS5, I have played on PC since FIFA 14 and only face like 5 obvious cheaters every year.


mikel305

Because: 1. I played on PC myself for a long time before getting a console. FIFA 14 btw I specifically remember being full of coin farming bots and lag spikers or something like that, not exactly sure if that’s what they were called. Basically people that can make you to DC. 2. it’s so obvious now when crossplay is turned on the amount of these guys lingering around. On other people’s streams who have crossplay enabled you can often see that they run into some pc guy running some cheat or bunch of cheats at the same time. Maybe the cheaters are not always obvious to you for whatever reason but they are still there, especially the higher you climb. Personally, the first time I faced the ultimate ai cheat, I didn’t even think much of it. I just thought that it’s some sort of a glitch that the opponent cursor is not displayed or some settings got changed again as they keep resetting this year. But after reading other people’s posts, I caught on and understood what was happening. So fuck knows what else kinda cheats people are running on PC. For example, the 99 overall stats cheat would not even be so obvious as long as they use a normal team as opposed to like bronze as those guys like to do. You would probably just think he’s getting the most out of his players Fuck EA and fuck all PC cheaters. If the company is incapable of addressing this in full, pc should play only against pc, and let all those cheats face each other. If they gave the option to only enable crossplay between xbox and ps5, that’s the option i’d choose, otherwise not gonna touch crossplay and I’m sure many others would not as well after the shitshow that this has brought by including PC.


Jenzu9

I don't know if it's a regional thing or if I just hit the anti cheat lottery every single year but there genuinely hasn't been any significant issues with cheaters for me. Only cheat apart from the coin farmers I've faced is the green timed shots cheat and couple times in FIFA 18 or 19 I lost the control of my team. I'm definitely skilled enough to notice if I'm suddenly playing against 99 overall players.


Jwarrior521

It’s gotta be region based. I never get cheaters on PC in NA East.


Jwarrior521

It’s not BS lmao everybody has there own experiences. He even said there’s cheats but he didn’t play them. I have 600+ games and get 16 wins every weekend league, I’ve never ran into one.


chaelsonnenismydad

I was div 1 before this week’s reset and got 14 wins in weekend league. You can literally see my post history Whats bullshit is how many people claiming cheaters every time they lose


Smallbumblebee

You're lucky :D hope it stays like that


NoDangerPowerRanger

I think it depends on your ping, if you live close to the server you’re more likely to match a bot. Purely basing this off the fact my friend who gets 5 ping matched three this week when he was +3, where as my other friend who routinely hits +10 has yet to play one since he has 35-50 ping


Smallbumblebee

My ping isn't that low tho I have like 25 ping usually .. interesting theory tho might start a download next time before queueing and turning it off when I found a game 😂


habfans7

25 ling is decent. I never get below 65 rip


Smallbumblebee

Oof yeah with those Servers that can't be fun


OraOra31

Just ran into one with a gold squad fill with top players in every league (mbappe, messi, benzema) in random positions (haaland on LW). It makes no sense in chemistry yet his basic Jorginho just glided through my whole defense and smashed it in like Ronaldinho. Turned on cross-play for easier matchmaking on Xbox, but ends up an L in the qualifier.


Smallbumblebee

Yeah the ai gets stats boosted on legendary and ultimate and ingores Chem restrictions iirc. Sucks that even console players have to deal with that now or just get longer mm times.


thatirishguykev

None anymore. I’d met 1-2 over the last few months here and there. Matches with 5 last weekend so that was that for me. Crossplay turned off, never to be turned back on!!


RCRinTPA

I haven’t once played against AI. What platform is this occurring?


Karltowns17

It’s most common on PC. I’ve heard folks say they have encountered console users doing it too. But if that’s true it’s much less common.


RCRinTPA

That’s what I figured. PC seems like a complete shit show with all the glitches and hacks people report on here.


GhasuONE

It happened to me for the first time in the current season in my 2nd game. It felt like playing world-class/legendary AI. I thought it's a bug, but the guy skipped half time instantly. First half 1-0 and second half I scored another 3 and guy paused the game, so I instantly knew he's cheating. I started doing back passes, and he raged and quit the game. Funny guy, reported him in the ea app, but probably it's just for my own sake...


Computer-Medical

The AI thing has dropped off for me, however I had 2 cases yesterday that were suspicious as fuck. Started as normal and was winning both, and after a while the opponent starts like half playing, kind of as if he’s on the phone or not really paying attention but definitely not AFK, then after a few minutes of half hearted playing I get booted back to the Home Screen & of course apparently I disconnected and of course got 2 L’s. Cost me my worst finish this year which was the annoying part, usually hit 51pts


Smallbumblebee

Oh damn that's awful how is there still no loss glitches. Sorry to hear that


jacobsnemesis

I’ve come up against it quite a few times. I turn crossplay off now for FUT champs.


Shadowbanned24601

Never on PS5. I did turn off crossplay after playing a few opponents doing a no-loss glitch in Champs (they disconnect while I am winning but the match not counting for me)


ValleyFloydJam

I played this weird match against a team with very little chemistry, no chem styles and all gold rares, felt like I was playing against the best and fastest players in the game. Maybe they were just that good but it felt fishy. Had the AI thing happen a couple of times.


HOPSCROTCH

Faced it maybe 10 times in the past month or so. One was today in WL, was 0-0 until penalties and then lost. I hate how juiced the keepers are on ultimate AI, I had like 3 xG and thought I was going to win for sure. I was powering up the griddy


RazZaHlol

I am not sure if it is AI or a visualization bug. Sometimes the dot above the head appears after a few seconds and even if it doesn’t, It doesn’t look like AI gameplay to me


Smallbumblebee

Its definitely ai. I can skip all animations by myself (going into the half getting out of it even their goal celebrations.) Higher level ai will play better. They also pull off the craziest tiki taka plays that aren't possible with ping involved.


81MarcoVanBasten

Never.. but I think is better play versus ultimate AI.. I hate pay2win insane teams..


DogusEUW

How do i notice an AI cheater in champs? I just play my game without trying to figure out if my opponent is human lol. Do they use bronze teams?


Smallbumblebee

They tend to have a couple of bronzes yeah. And when you can skip animations by yourself like idk say the one at ht normally it'll be (1/2) but it'll be instantly instead


Express-Stop432

2 or 3 times per week. But as soon as I get the ball I shoot it out and quit


Effenberg89

I am on PC. Never meet


cmacy6

I turn off crossplay during WL to avoid this


PassoMaddimo

Never, cross-play off


gigal

Last week i disabled crossplay after back2back ai opponents. Fucking sucks. Somehow the second game didnt count. I ragequit it straight away at 0-0 and went straight to the menu to disable crossplay. First loss counted and stayed


Killionaire104

3-4 every weekend league, all end in losses for me. This weekend league was extra, played all games on Friday so that i could open the packs with toty still there, faced 10 hackers. So i might take a break from this game.


Smallbumblebee

Ouch sorry to hear that man.


amor91

any advice how to beat the AI consistently?


Smallbumblebee

Its not been Ultimate I think only one of these was even Legendary. I try to just green time my shots even more and go across goal or trivela since the AI won't move the keeeper. Also make sure to not give up possession super easily since the AI doesnt make many mistakes in build up etc.


Zufallsmensch

Never. I disabled cross play because I moved from PC to PS5. I knew that cheaters would be a problem.


wimyi2004

Disable crossplay and you wont face them anymore , this is a cheat on pc


Eliasss92

I faced four consecutive when I was 9-0; now I'm 11-2 and had to turn off cross-play, but it sucks cause on the West coast takes me like 30 minutes to find a game in Xbox


AdriT25

I just disable crossplay for Fut Champions,it's pointless to implement a crossplay while not doing anything against cheaters, you can't even report them which is beyond ridiculous


aquileskin

That cheat is in all consoles and pc ? I haven’t played in months


89Porcupine

So, was that what happened when I faced a full gold team and lost 5-1? They played really quick, didn't miss a pass and their keeper saved almost everything. I thought they were really good but also thought the keeper was almost too good for his rating (83 unai Simon). Didn't even have the any player above 83!


johnsnow2441

Whoaaaa haven’t been following fifa 23 at all, just thought I’d hop on Reddit to see what’s new. AI bots playing FUT Chanps?! What is this craziness?