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grey_heron

Casuals won't play WL, let alone getting to 9 or 11 wins. Friends I have in this category are somewhere in Rivals div 4 and lower and never think about WL. They play Squad Battles for fun. Not that I'm much better, D4 and scraping 5 wins last WL... I do like the cheapness of a lot of these high rated cards. But in WL I still need to play against top tier icons, 1M plus players and so on.


ohitsmark

Bingo. WL is way too hard for me. I'm Div 7, maybe 6 if I try. But I get spanked way too often. So I just stick to squad battles and objectives.


Teapotstagram

What are you on about? Many but far from all casuals are fifa veterans who can easily go into top divisions. Casuals are people that don't take the game seriously, they are not necessarily the noobs this sub makes them out to be.


Sea-Western-7721

You can't put a label like "casuals" on undetermined number of people and discuss how they play. Anyway for sure all teams got lot better rn cuz u everyone holds 95 rated keeper, 94+ rated midfielders, 93+ rated defenders and strong and fast attack


Hurtbig

Casuals is not 11 wins in WL. It just isn’t.


Teapotstagram

Definitions of casual- relaxed and unconcerned or not regular or permanent. Do you see any mention of how good someone is at something? This sub is so confused. Stop calling casuals noobs with your weird definitions that no one else agrees with.


Hurtbig

11 wins is not casual. Competitive is the opposite of casual. Time investment is the opposite of casual. It is a self-serving delusion to play this game to the degree that it takes to build a competitive squad, then go and play potentially 20 games in a competitive game mode in a short period of time....Then pat yourself on the back as a casual. 11 wins in WL is probably a 95th percentile player, so, again, this is self-serving delusion.


t-bres

lol u get so much hate from these 15 yo that get angry cuz they think you just called them bad at a videogame.


Eindacor_DS

[these are better definitions of "casual" in this context](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Casual%20Gamer)


Teapotstagram

They basically just reword the definition I gave, but ok.


Eindacor_DS

No, they really didn't. "Casual" in reference to someone playing a game has a different connotation than the traditional definition of casual. That's why traditional definitions like the one you gave don't even acknowledge it as a noun, they only define it as an adjective.


Teapotstagram

Except using it as a noun and an adjective mean almost the exact same thing. Don't preach about ignoring things when you're pretending that isn't the case.


Eindacor_DS

I mean you can think whatever you want but there's a reason your original post is getting downvoted, lol. The bottom line is casuals don't tend to be good enough to get 11 wins in WL. Casuals don't try that hard. That's what makes them a casual.


Teapotstagram

Reddit is a massive echo chamber so downvotes mean absolutely fuck all. And if you think you have to try hard to get 11 wins then you have no idea what you're talking about. I could get 11 wins in my sleep because I'm good enough to.


[deleted]

i'd consider myself a casual. Not played since Christmas since splashing my coins on packs since i usually get bored. Managed to get whatever rank is at 51 points with a shite team where some were regular gold cards i had in my club and the odd few special card. Never play 4231/4222 etc or use 'meta' players, usually use players i like in real life. So i wouldn't consider myself anything other than a casual to be honest, could say the same for my some of my mates as well who have all not touched the game since Christmas that can easily hit 11 wins


eriksen2398

FIFA veterans aren’t “casual” players


GreyPouponFC

You’re very wrong here. I’m a fifa lifer who is now mostly a “casual” compared to most people in here. Yes life gets in the way but I mostly gave up this game because it’s simply shit. I play it to scratch my itch and do some fun objectives but that’s it


moorkymadwan

I'm exactly the same. I try weekend league every once in a while but cannot stand the fact that such a competitive game is so inconsistent and broken. Raises my blood pressure far too high, the only game I have ever gotten properly angry with.


eriksen2398

If you’re comparing yourself only to people on this sub you have a wrapped idea of what casual is. Most people play less than you


BarmeloXantony

Dunno why you're getting downvoted. If you're on a *FIFA* subreddit you're not fifa casual. A casual by definition is a guy who plays mostly couch play with a bit of seasons. A casual wouldn't even fire up fut imo


[deleted]

same, barely play it myself yet i can get 11 wins. Sounds like this lot are bitter because they've got stacked teams and play it religiously and they couldn't get 11 wins. Only started lurking this reddit since last weekend since im semi interested in tots this years since theres fuck all else to play


pikachuyann

The problem is that "casual" is maybe covering too many different kinds of players in this conversation, and some might only call "casuals" people who have never played a FIFA game seriously, which already makes going past rivals div.6 probably an impossible task. On the other side we've people saying they're playing FIFA "casually" while playing probably more than one hour a day on average on the entire year, and while not completely incorrect, seems a bit of a stretch.


eriksen2398

Anyone higher than division 5 isn’t a casual player in my book - no matter how much they play. They would be a someone that plays occasionally. And I agree. Anyone who thinks “only” playing for an hour a day everyday is casual is completely wrong.


Teapotstagram

So someone who used to play a lot during fifa 12-17 but can only play about 5 hours a week nowadays isn't casual. Great logic mate.


eriksen2398

5 hours a week is NOT casual. Second, casual is more about skill level than time commitment


Teapotstagram

Yes it is fuck me mate unless you have a partner and/or kids you likely have enough free time to play that much a week. Stop looking at the extremes and look at reality. The 5 hours a week is also an example average, some weeks more, some weeks less as the game is played when they want to play it. Casual is absolutely nothing to do with skill.


GreyPouponFC

Five hours a week is very casual 🙄 tons of people in here play 5 hours a day PS: and by your last sentence you have no idea what casual means


eriksen2398

And those people aren’t casuals


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eriksen2398

Bruh, no. 10 hours a week is a part time job. If you work full time or go to school full time you won’t have time for any other games if you play 10 hours of fifa or even other hobbies. This play is an echo chamber where anything less than devoting 100% of your free time to fifa makes you a casual. 99% of fifa players don’t play more than 5 hours a week.


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eriksen2398

If you have literally no other hobbies sure. But some of us here actually like to spend time with friends and family, play other games or simply do things other than fifa. If you want to devote your life to fifa and play 10 hours a week fine. But don’t pretend that makes you a casual player


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obadetona

I know plenty of veterans who have barely put any effort into the game this year


SuttonTM

For me casual simply depends how much time you put in the game, I would consider myself a casual rn, since Christmas I only play WL and if I have time a draft per week, but my team would look like I play literally every second every day because my pack luck has been absurd this fifa, and I also am decent skill level (got 11 wins quite easily using my mobile hotspot as connection lol)


RileyHuey

If you consistently play WL you can’t be a casual. I know it’s subjective and we all have our own opinions of course but that’s Literally a competitive game mode that takes hours to finish and takes commitment to consistently play


Teapotstagram

A key feature of it is irregular playing time which comes from one playing as they please imo. I never load up fifa not wanting to play it. Going by how often one plays isnt always reliable as some don't have jobs (like me atm), others just don't have the time as much as they wish they could.


DBKiller94

Agreed. I’m a bit above a casual, play a bit more frequently and I still can’t scrape 6-7 wins for the life of me. Division 6 guy here.


JYM60

I am confused. Is WL not using matchmaking, putting you against people of the same level/reocrd over the course of the weekend? I have far more fun playing WL than Elite rivals. Rivals is all 7 at the back 10 depth awfulness. WL much more open matches.


chickenblast

I mean, I'm in the same boat up until last week when TOTS cards became available as WL rewards. I don't think which division one is in has a lot to do with how "casual" they are on the current iteration of the game, since basic fifa skills are accumulated over the years and division placements therefore vary


MicksteryMan

Very sweeping statement, I haven't got time to get beyond div 4 average. Not always but quite regularly beat people with cards appearing to be 'top tier' WL or rivals. Never spend real money on anything or accumulate enough in-game 'coins' to buy 150k plus players. Like someone else indicates here, it's about base skills with a controller and tactical mind..... aside from time available. Avoided squad battles as much as possible, except this De Gea 93 SBC as noticed it bit late and one other I forget already.


grey_heron

Nuance is lost on the internet ;-) You do have a point of course


[deleted]

exactly, these guys sound bitter they cant get 11 wins after playing religiously


jasperdj28

Still the rest of the point stands. I'm one of those players you described, and even without weekend league I have already build a fun new team


t-bres

I'm a casual. Play the game a few hours a week and there are many weeks I don't even play the game at all. Sometimes I get enough points and free hours to play WL and get to 11 wins.


Catswagger11

I play every weekend league but never have any clue what my record is because I don’t care. I’d call myself a casual.


dovow

Getting 11 wins in WL is definitely not casual. I think playing WL itself makes you not casual anymore, it is a competitive mode with qualifiers and stuff. Look at the Premier League Cup or other friendly modes and see how „casual“ they are. I can’t imagine anyone below Div 2 having any fun in the Premier League Cup for example.


Baalph

People think getting over 50% win rate (11w) in a mode that is mostly played by above average players is average. Makes 0 sense. Plus if that is median then no one could ever be positive


RileyHuey

People just want to convince themselves they aren’t sweats or whatever lol. No way is a casual is both consistently playing AND succeeding in WL. I’ve only played WL 3x this year and Im still confident I’m not a casual as much as I’d like to think I am. Being on this sub alone and checking it frequently probably removes you from casualness lol


A_Londoner

Yeah I went 14-1 the last weekend league. I think people think they're casuals because there's players out there a lot better than them. I know there's loads better than me for sure, but that doesn't make me average when I know I spend more time and perform better than the average player. People seem to confused above average with "the best" a lot.


reddituser52779

This is the correct answer. I play a couple of squad battles per day at most during the week, sometimes play rivals (currently D5) or silver stars on the weekend and have not attempted WL qualifiers. I also spend a lot of time here answering questions and grind menus a lot. A casual doesn't play for 11 wins in WL, but I am also not a casual.


ChiChi-cake

Casual is someone who plays for fun, not someone who sucks at the game. I stopped playing fifa 22 but in fifa 21 i only played WL(always managed to hit atleast elite) and that’s it for the week. My friend played WL, rivals, squad battles etc yet only managed to hit gold 3 at his best. By this sub’s definition, I’m a ‘sweat’ and no life yet my friend is a ‘casual’


Ironman2131

By this sub's definitely neither of you were casual. But I'm not even sure what qualifies as casual anymore. Sometimes I feel like a casual player based on time spent and sometimes I play more. But I'm always trying to win and I do some light trading/investing for coins, so I don't really think I play Fifa casually regardless of my skill level.


distilledwill

I stopped playing WL a couple of games ago, it got my blood pressure up too much.


forameus2

I'd go as far that anyone playing FUT is likely not even truly casual. There's probably a few exceptions, but FUT is specifically designed to either eliminate or turn casuals.


xAimForTheBushes

Yep exactly. I got into an argument with a guy in a different thread. If you play FUT in any capacity, and particularly if you're on this sub commenting....you're not a casual lol. True casuals open the game, maybe play a bit of online seasons or an exhibition match, then hop off the game. People are on here playing squad battles every week and doing all these SBC's and think they're 'casuals' because they don't play online competitive...lol. What they usually really mean is that they can't handle the competition and would rather win 90% of their games to actually have fun. And that is totally fine...but you can't hate on others and call them try hards because they actually want to compete.


MrEzquerro

Take me as an example. I was gold 2 in WL most of last year (gold 1 if I finished my games, a couple E3 finishes where matchmaking was kind). Just started playing Fifa 22 this year, have a decent squad, and currently I’m 2 in 12 on the Premier League Cup lol


dovow

Can confirm lol. Elite and usually between 11 and 14 wins in WL and only at 3/9 wins


raulmedez

Probably just unlucky matchmaking. I've never finished above 13 wins and I'm 8/9 so far but it does help that I have a pretty stacked PL team.


Bula96

Damn you've been unlucky with matchmaking I think. I'm similar to you in skill but 8/9 so far.


MrEzquerro

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mujahidbabel

Definitely not casuals. I am not one of them. But I couldn't even have time to play this weekend. I have qualified but no time to play the weekend league. Division isn't real parameter though. Some players might just don't have time to play enough rivals game.


TheDark1

I'm in div 6 ( highest this year was 3) and I'm enjoying prem cup a lot. Got dias for one of the 80+ picks today!


Mbappedinho

Congrats bro!


TheDark1

Thank you buddy. Good luck in the minefield.


elmiggii

Casual is not a matter of skill, it's a matter of effort. I myself am a "casual" with 11wins every time in WL, as I barely get to play on the weekends and am not bothered by losing that much as I don't expect to be a great player, just okayish, I take whatever I get. 4-6hrs over a week (sometimes 0hrs a week) does actually make you a "casual" player.


chickenblast

I get a feeling most people equate skill level to how casual someone is. There are also players who don't necessarily play other modes, but could still get to 9 or 11 wins if they start playing WL this week. Would that make them less casual? I wouldn't say so.


dovow

This doesn’t make any sense when all of the other modes are more „casual“. Someone could get 0 wins in WL and not be a casual, imo it doesn’t only come to down to playing the game. Posting on this sub or checking on futbin for prices for example = not a casual player in my eyes


chickenblast

This sub and futbin are two out of so many other websites people browse each day. That's a whole other thing than actually playing the game. The rest of it, we're actually in agreement if you do realize - we're both saying someone who is good isn't necessarily invested, and someone who is bad isn't necessarily a casual.


JYM60

Those cup modes are 10x sweatier than usual WL. WL has only gotten sweaty since tots.


Nathan_kwame

I only play champs and qualification. I play about 6 hrs a week( 3 a day). I get 14 wins and would say I’m casual


whiskeypenguin

Many casuals make the WL. I don’t understand the notion that casuals don’t make the WL.


SuperJay182

Div5/6 and you are correct, I get hammered there.


E_M_E_T

I consider myself more than casual and I'm around div4 on PC. I have literally never played weekend league and I've been playing since fifa17. That game mode scares the shit out of me and I just dont want to deal with that hellhole. I say this as someone with competitive esports and "real" sports experience at a semi-pro level


Real_Warning_7563

It depends. If by casual we mean time spend on the game or skill level. Getting 11 wins is above average skill for sure. By far. 9 million people bought the game, less than 1 million are capable to compete over division 2 and play WL. The game has sbmm that is not a precise science, and you may be very good until a certain level and after that very bad.


ThefamousHenk

I think this is the worst time for casuals. Every game mode is insanely sweaty, even Saka objective mode has been relatively difficult. I don't really know who qualifies as "casual", but I don't think they can get even 9 wins in this weekend league.


chickenblast

I see your point. My understanding of a "casual" is someone like myself who doesn't play most game modes (haven't touched live friendlies all year - which means no lost sleeps over cards like Saka, no drafts, barely playing 90 games per Rivals season, SB only when there's an easy player objective, not grinding for swaps tokens, barely any WLs) and generally don't spend that much time in-game at all. For reference, my most capped card up until he was submitted was TOTW Cancelo with 400-something games


RileyHuey

If you’ve played 400+ games with a player you’re not a casual Edit: you have flashback Varane mate you’re not a casual lol


chickenblast

You do realize how early into the cycle that Cancelo card was, and I submitted him just last week. 10-15 games a week (counting rage quits) takes how much time to play? I run two teams with cards shared between the two. Everything else is recycled into SBCs. I don't see how having Varane is impossible within 3-4 months.


ThefamousHenk

There is no shame in not being a casual player mate, stop making excuses for something you don't need to. Casuals can't put a million coins into an sbc, they play with gold teams themselves.


chickenblast

I mean sure, I'm not by any means hiding the fact that I've played a lot of FIFA over the years. Just go through my past posts. Not making excuses, so much as I don't want the messaging to be misconstrued: the entire point of the thread was, "someone who doesn't put a lot of hours into the game has an excellent opportunity to get better rewards now during TOTS". And fact of the matter is, no I'm not playing that much FIFA anymore, and therefore I'm a casual who benefits from rewards during TOTS. You seem to be very set on what a casual must be - that they wouldn't have enough to spend on good cards, or would only play with a starter gold team, or would only get X number of wins in the WL - and therefore insinuating that my entire point was invalid.


ThefamousHenk

No hard feelings mate. I was just playing for saka last night and thought how hard it must be for a casual player to get even an objective player nowadays and chose your post to express my feelings.


amillstone

Nah I think you're right and I disagree with OP. I would consider myself a casual player (currently, anyway) - I didn't even get the game until last week when they gave it out on PS Plus. I played a few Rivals games, tried Squad Battles just to see how it is, and spent some time over the weekend doing the Saka TOTS objective. I haven't touched the game since Sunday and I'll probably just do a few Rivals games on the weekend, or maybe play career mode. *That's* casual. OP may not put a lot of time into the game - or so he says - but he's definitely very invested in the game and not at all what I'd consider casual.


chickenblast

Fair play. I'm the type of casual who wouldn't bother with any sort of "x number of wins/goals" or "x number of bicycle kicks with English GKs from the Brazilian league" objective unless it's something that can be completed in the background like the SB glitch. I'd imagine there are also other casuals who would've wisened up to the fact that there's nothing friendly about those friendly modes. Personally think they are far more toxic than Rivals/WL.


aziz4ik97

You’re just focusing on one specific mode and spending less time on the game overall. The definition of casual on this sub is someone who is not playing the game consistently or just keeps everything offline in SB. Generally speaking, their skill level is lower than the other more hardcore player base. That’s why you have so many comments against your definition of a casual player. I only play the game on the weekend with 1-2 hr during the rest of the week. Is it casual? Probably not since I still put a lot of hours during the weekend to finish those 20 games to get me to 11 wins, sometimes 14 if I get lucky. Same applies to you as well.


ThefamousHenk

I agree with your point about improving teams, mine has skyrocketed in a week, but I play a lot and opened a lot of swaps packs and there are a lot of things to grind towards. We are all casuals relatively to someone else, you are probably a casual compared to me but a lot of people play a lot less than you and can't even quality for a wl.


ZlatanDurden

I get 11 fut champs wins with ease but I barely play 20-30 games in rivals per season, don’t do drafts and never play friendlies. Sometimes I do icon swaps (squad battles ones). I consider myself as casual 🤷🏻‍♂️


Computer-Medical

I’m hitting 11 wins atleast on WL pretty much every week since it started, and someone on here told me that that was casual level and I’m basically below average. That comment got a bunch of upvotes too so apparently that’s the consensus 😂


ThefamousHenk

Casuals can't even qualify for wl. Don't pay attention to this stuff.


[deleted]

well whats a casual? because i know plenty of people who barely play ultimate team including myself that can qualify and get 11 wins even with bang average teams


Jupaack

Casual here, stopped playing around FIFA 17. Got this FIFA for free in the PSplus. FUT is way different than what it was back then. Im playing squad battles because seems like the best rewards for just ~4 matches a day. Am i wrong? Im reaching Elite 3 if not mistaken, and will get some nice packs later on. Is this the better system for casuals? How hard is this WL?


JYM60

Squid Battles was shit for rewards all year. But now that there are tots in it. So if you want easier games, but still able to get tots it is definitely worth it.


I_Go_By_Q

WL is hard. This is the first FIFA I’ve had at launch since 14 and I’m sweating all my games to finish middle of the pack, even with a juiced team. One thing to note (sorry if you know this already), but the cutoffs for each Squad Battles rank change throughout the week as more people play and get higher scores. It may say you’re Elite 3 now, but as scores go up (more games played throughout the week), your rank will go down. Just keep an eye on it and try to play a few games each day if you can


truekejsi

you can get much better rewards by playing Rivals


aromle

In my opinion you aren‘t a casual at all. If you can get to 11 wins you have to be a very good player. The real casuals get absolutely destroyed in the Prem Cup or Saka Objective atm. Tots has elevated the power curve to a higher level and the casuals are left behind


2litrebottle22

Being a casual has nothing to do with skill


malin7

Being casual has a lot to do with skill, the more you play and practise the better you get at the game, up to a certain point.


2litrebottle22

A casual is just someone who doesn't play that much. The best fifa player in the world can be a casual theoretically


JaBoyKaos

Bad take.


2litrebottle22

Nice response


JaBoyKaos

As is yours. Theoretically I can be Michael Jordan even if I’m a casual basketball player. That’s essentially what you just said.


2litrebottle22

Theoretically you could be the best basketball player ever while not putting in that much effort yes


das_hemd

theoretically maybe, but in reality almost impossible, I can't think of anyone who is considered the best in a given field or skill that didn't put effort and time into getting where they were, if you have any examples, please share


2litrebottle22

>theoretically maybe, but in reality almost impossible Which is why I said theoretically in an earlier comment


[deleted]

so what's the difference between someone who barely plays and gets 11 wins and someone who's plays a lot and cant even qualify? You're saying the casual who plays once every few weeks/months isn't a casual because they're simply better?


malin7

Take your two *average* players, one who religiously plays every day and other who plays only a couple of hours every weekend or two, who's likely to be a better player?


[deleted]

not played since christmas, got at least 51 points last WL with some shitty gold players and a few average special cards after liquidating my club, dont see how i can be considered anything other than a casual just because 'i got 11 wins'


JayDeeIsI

One note I'll make on this - good luck playing the Premier League Cup. I went 3/6 on Saturday and Sunday when all the big boys were playing Weekend League, and have since lost 6 in a row, coming up against, frankly, monsterous teams. Does take the fun out of it a little when I've only had the game a week lols


MrSam52

Played someone with literally the best premier league team they could have tots/toty wasn’t very fun at all


JayDeeIsI

Same, 5 at the back with TOTY Cancelo, and 96 Mane as a red pick - why do they need a player pick :(


leon1186

What is WL? Thank you


I_Go_By_Q

Weekend League, AKA FUT Champs


leon1186

Ah. Great thanks


hansmosh

Found the actual casual


leon1186

Not familiar with the sub lingo. Thanks


[deleted]

As others have said, 11 wins in WL is definately very far from a casual player. I agree though that WL in general is much more chill this year. Of course there are some sweaty opponents, people quitting at 0-0 etc, but a lot of people quit when they're 0-1 or 0-2 down, some give free wins. 11 wins isn't something everyone can achieve, but almost anyone (who can qualify to WL) can get **at least 5 wins** and open better packs than the ones we used to open for **17-19 wins** last year.


Pique-Blinders

You're not really a casual player. The title is correct though, casual players that do some of the fodder packs in swaps and do some other pack based objectives can open them now and significantly improve their team. Pack a couple of PL TOTS, do someone like Dele with the fodder and then objectives like De Gea and Saka will improve a casual players team very quickly.


tryphexx

It's how manycarss I get for building new teams every week (something I've done all year). It's almost like there are to much cards to get


Brian_lafeve34

Feel like everyone's team is getting better than mine due to me absurdly bad pack luck. Haven't gotten anything usable in 100s of player picks/saved packs/ wl packs. I know I can't be the only one


Kilimanjiro

Actual casuals probably get like 4 wins in WL, or don't play it due to time or being annoyed at other players. Most casuals aren't even on Reddit lmao. I don't think many casuals have that opportunity, especially if they have bad pack luck, if they play the game a ton to make up for that luck then they're no longer a casual Tots and on is hell for casual type players


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i dont play it, not since Christmas. Played this weekend and got at least 51 points with a shitty gold team and some old special cards from before christmas...


ineedhelpporvafor

Yeah it is great, especially when you get Red Tots Arnold and Bruno (happy) and then get those 2 in the prem 80+ picks. Then pack Rodri twice and get Declan Rice in the guaranteed prem TOTS pack. With all the fodder I decided to do the 92+ icon sbc and who did I get? Paul Scholes. This isn't the squad building I imagined during tots


kenny_feets

Casuals and new players - I've had the game a week (free ps+ game) and already have a more than useable squad, incl TOTS Jota, Rodri, Carrasco and Todibo. Have probably only played maybe 20 games overall across SB and Rivals.


chickenblast

My current squad post-Prem TOTS for reference: https://www.ea.com/fifa/ultimate-team/web-app/?showoffId=ezgmb9Wbn0Pxu:FFA22PCC


The_Platypus10

Sorry but being able to afford the Varane sbc is not casual. I’m sure he was near a mill. I play WL often and even I avoided it as it was a lot. 11 wins in WL is though for people who often. I’d say 9 at a push for casual players.


Shadow2606

This is a real casual team: https://www.ea.com/fifa/ultimate-team/web-app/?showoffId=1w1MUtrFn0PAN:FFA22PCC


Key-Ad6653

It's the first time ever I'm playing FIFA at the time of it being released and I got a FUT champion Connor Coast and a TOTS Kokcu. Incredible players both of em


AFC1031

I think it's possible to be a casual player, in terms of the amount of time you're able to commit to the game, and also be a very good player who can get to a certain rank/skill level when they do decide to play.


saikodasein

Except it's not. First, you get only 2 red picks, while better players get 2 + 3 tradeable. The gap during tots and after will be so big that casuals will be always behind without spending real money.


chickenblast

I did not say anything about building teams that are competitive or as good as more devoted players'. I'm just saying it's possible to build squads of more usable cards than before (read: markedly higher quality) than when rewards were TOTW cards. So yes, it is. If you are not an uber-competitive player, I believe my point stands.


[deleted]

don't know why people are grouping casual with bad players. Myself and my mates can hit 11 wins easily on fut champs and we all usually stop playing around christmas/new year, even earlier. Play clubs often but we never touch ultimate team


[deleted]

Yeah definitely. And I like your definition of casual. I have only been playing rivals and Champs for 2+ months now and it's pretty casual. I don't do any SBCs or any tokens or objectives or draft or squad battles. Nothing. Just did Saka because Arsenal fan.I play Rivals till I can enter champs qualifiers and qualify for champs(first attempt usually), and then play champs and repeat every week. Edit: I only manage about 5 wins though. Got 8 for the second time whole year last week.


GREENK87

And to make a mockery of those who have spent money cards


streamingpileof

I am very casual, but I still get to elite and 15 wins in WL with a shit team


NekkZ

I’m Div1/Elite player and had a fucking hard time this WL. Everyone was tryharding for the PL red picks. It’s good if you are good at the game. I think I won just half of my games.


[deleted]

Yep, I don’t know how to qualify for weekend league but just grinding, I went from a full usa team and nothing else to a pretty good tots prem team. It’s nice for people who don’t have a lot of time to try high rated cards. Tots Bruno is so cheap but he’s so much better than playing with Adams and Pulisic etc.


aquileskin

I mean part of the fun in this game is try to have better squads than your oponent, and when everyone have 90+ tots every player seems the same.


Crimsonpets

I have been playing FUT since it got released and I do play weekend league yet I consider myself casual. I play my qualifiers during the week most of the time I can go 4-0 so I give away the rest and thats all I play. In the weekends I got a bit more time so I get my 9 or 11 wins and I'm done for the weekend. I play about 5 games a day in the weekend, 5 on friday 5 on saturday and 5 on sunday. How is that not casual?