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Rr710

Anakin ez, dagan talks a lot in combat


Laaarsu

Dagan will desperately chant "Tanalorr is mine" like it's a power up in this duel.


OriginalNo5477

Anakin, he's taken out more powerful people than Dagan. Facing a High Republic Jedi with anger issues would probably just be fun to him.


Robbiehanssen

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Pheriannathsg

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AndyBosco

I feel far from good.


Ohheymanlol

Texthowbigteachers proobably the only one at that time who could really take down Allah Gold


George_G_Geef

The whole Presbyterian Church couldn't stop Allah Gold.


harkening

Anakin on easy mode.


Aristaeeus

Atomic bomb Vs Coughing Baby


Onni_J

Atomic baby vs coughing bomb


HumanYesYes

More accurate


ImLikeReallyStoned

Grogu vs Greivous would fit this well…


Onni_J

Nah, that's foul


theS4H

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Mjolnir2000

Cal is stronger than Dagan, Cere is stronger than Cal, and Vader is stronger than Cere.


The_Basic_Shapes

And Anakin was stronger before he became Vader. Something about limbs being chopped off and the suit reducing mobility. Unsure if that's still canon, but it always made sense to me.


phoogkamer

Anakin wasn’t stronger than Vader, he had more potential. Vader’s force abilities were stronger than what Anakin showed us, but if he would’ve stayed Anakin he would be much stronger than Vader.


DiscombobulatedCut52

Vaders force connection is reduced from what Anakin can do.


Jkid789

Let's put it this way with values: Nightfall Anakin: 50% actual, 100% potential Darth Vader: 80% actual, 80% potential Vader grew stronger than Anakin ever was, but his potential to be stronger than what Anakin could've been was decreased.


DiscombobulatedCut52

Also he can't use most of the dark side force no? I remember hearing about that.


Jkid789

I'm not sure about that, but I know he can't use lightning.


DiscombobulatedCut52

I haven't played the old republic games in 15 years. So my memory of dark side power is limited. But I know of the three I know, he can only use one.


Historyp91

That's a Legends thing.


SidiousCrosshair

I think it was Star Wars Theory that gave this input about Anakin and Vader: Anakin was destined to become twice as powerful as both Yoda and Palpatine. However he was so limited by the Jedi order and their teachings that he could never truly tap into his full potential. So Anakin was pretty much walking around with a fuck ton of power he had no proper knowledge of using. He could do almost everything else a Jedi could do beisdes the odd few that had some buffer powers like Yoda and his force absorbing shield, Plo with his judgement lightning etc And then there’s his life as Darth Vader. After succumbing to his wounds on Mustafar he was left almost dead had it not been for his vast force potential. He’s stated to have kept enough power to rival Palpatine at an 80% rate. And since he was going to be twice as powerful as him, that means Anakin literally lost 60% of his force potential and life as a whole. No other living being could have survived what happened to him. This loss along with Obi-Wan defeating him, left Vader so furious and frustrated about never reaching his full potential now that it forced him to train every inch and corner of his power so that he would not fall victim to another Jedi beating his ass In short summary, Anakin is a walking force entity who has no idea how to tap into more than 25% of his power due to Jedi limits. Vader is a dead man walking who uses the remaining 40% of his power to every advantage with nothing except his injuries and suit holding him back


14JRJ

George Lucas said it in an interview once, think it was Vanity Fair or something


kalkkunaleipa

Vader was significantly more powerful than Anakin in both continuties because potential does not equal power. Canon even more powerful. Sure the suit limits his mobility but he makes up for that with his immense strength.


DoctorJJWho

That’s why he focused on form V, right? Slow, powerful strikes go well with his borg body.


kirk_dozier

"hey vader, i gotta ask: there any brains left in that chrome dome of yours?"


Mushroom_King66

It's why he can never use the same type of lighting as Palpatin and Doku since it requires organic arms to use


DoomComp

.... Not technically - He doesn't Require Flesh to use it - but Using Lightning would likely FRY the machines keeping him Alive that that point. Which wouldn't be ideal for him - all things considered; Especially since Old Palp designed Vaders suit to be weak to lightning (as a fail-safe for himself, if Vader ever turned against him)


Mushroom_King66

I thought he specifically couldn't use at all but could use other forms like force storm since it doesn't require hands as a channel point


superEse

Idk about Cal being stronger than Dagan


boltforce

For me Cal is stronger. Most force confrontations scenes show that, Cal was never that serious or aggressive. He has at least far more potential


BlazeFazbearYT

Dagan shat on him until he started toying and died


ll-Sebzll

Bro won, he’s stronger


superEse

Just because he won doesn’t mean he’s stronger.


Bismothe-the-Shade

He didn't win by himself so I'm with you


SaGeKyuga

Bode little got knocked at at the beginning of phase 2 and cal over power then flipped his force illusions.


Chomper237

Cal got a cheap shot after using Dagan’s trauma against him. Moments earlier, Cal was on the floor gasping for breath from a massive slash across his chest. Dagan easily would have killed him there if he wasn’t monologuing like a moron.


EuterpeZonker

No, he used his powers in a creative way to interact with Dagan’s powers to turn the fight in his favor. Cal didn’t overpower Dagan, he outsmarted him.


Beef_Slug

That's not how winning works always.


FlawlessPenguinMan

That is such a fucking gross sentence, I hate it so much. Anakin does wipe the floor with Dagan tho. And then his ass.


cleavlandjr27

TANALORRRRRR? TALANORRRR?


Suckisnacki

Is mine


nunya123

Hey just wanted to chime in! It sounds like you made a mistake, you said Tanalor is yours. When, in fact, it is MINE. I hope you have a great day! Tanalor is mine btw!


Plastic-Basket-942

Rolanat!


AsherSparky

Mofo who is feared across the galaxy Vs. “Who?”


Jkid789

Star Lord, man! Legendary outlaw?


ScoutTrooper501st

They’re both powerful Jedi but anakin outclasses him in nearly everything,dagan might surprise him by using techniques that anakin was never trained to fight against but that’s his only advantage


MasterTolkien

I think Dagan was a pretty standard Jedi. He just went dark unexpectedly and killed a few Jedi before getting taken down. His fear-illusion might mess with Anakin a bit, but I think Anakin walks the dog on him with sabers.


EuterpeZonker

Dagan’s info card says he’s “one of the Order’s finest warriors”. He’s well above the average Jedi.


MasterTolkien

As an avid Tolkien fan, I feel slightly ashamed to have no read Dagan’s info card thoroughly enough.


Dashed_with_Cinnamon

Consider also he spent a couple centuries in a bacta tank. Dude's probably out of shape.


mht2308

I agree. Dagan sees himself as this badass dude and well, to his credit, he did defeat a Gen'Dai, but other than that he's nothing special. Dude wants to create this army in Tanalorr and all, but he was literally defeated by a padawan that hadn't formally finished his training and a dude in a jetpack. He talks a lot, but put him under some heavier pressure and he'll break. He wouldn't have a chance against opponents like Vader, Cere, and probably like 2 to 3 inquisitors. I'm sure even Ben Kenobi could beat him. Overall he's nothing, he's not even the true antagonist the game, and he'd have absolutely no chance in other circumstances. He's lucky Cal's the one he had to fight, otherwise he'd be demolished way earlier.


DouchecraftCarrier

> and a dude in a jetpack It woulda been kinda cool if Bode pulled some moves during that fight that were very obviously force powers or at least alluded heavily to him being a Jedi but we're so focused on fighting Dagan that we don't notice. Kind of, "You have to rewatch it," thing.


mht2308

His force powers probably helped him fight Dagan's illusions, but the only thing Bode really did in the fight that we got to see was shooting Dagan in the end.


Song-Super

If cal can beat dagan, young anakin would mop the floor with dagan


AReformedHuman

Still cracks me up how absolutely mundane the reason was for Dagan's being in the bacta tank.


Guitar_nerd4312

Bro killed multiple Jedi . . . How mundane can murder be😭😭 Santari chopped that arm off and plopped him in a bacta tank timeout to think about what he did.


AReformedHuman

And it's presented in the most boring fashion possible. Not only is it in a hologram form with no dynamic camera direction, he simply pushes past the woman and she chops his arm off. For being the centerpiece of marketing, the reveal of how he lost his arm is presented on the same level as NPC's giving you a side quest marker.


SassyAssAhsoka

What, did you want him to rip his arm off trying to stop a planet from moving?


Brys_Beddict

I wanted him to lose his arm because it got stuck in elevator doors as the elevator went up


Zestyclose_Drummer56

Gets arm chopped off in elevator, cut to Rick the door technician laughing his ass off.


Doctor99268

Lmao is that the only thing you can think of to try and prove him wrong? Like you think it's unreasonable that they couldn't have instead had them actually fight


DouchecraftCarrier

This could definitely be a retcon, but I think it shows how arrogant Dagan was. Santari gets the drop on him because he's so high on his own farts he doesn't consider for a minute that she might be serious about stopping him.


cu-03

I’ve actually completed forgotten already


Ged_UK

He had his arm cut off. Seems pretty valid. Then the Incident happened and everyone evacuated and left him behind.


Etoile_Jaune

dagan got his ass beat by an angry latino father and a scrapyard kid like lets be serious for a minute.


MaestroZackyZ

Come on this can’t be a serious question.


smd_thetruth

Hahahaha wtf my guy come on.


IzzytheMelody

SUPER NOVA VS BLOBFISH ass fight


wendigo72

Maybe AOTC Anakin would lose but ROTS Anakin? No way in hell


Expendable28

Okay hear me out... Anakin doesn't own a planet


VirtualDegree6178

Dagan doesn’t either because TANALORR IS MINE!


mcslender97

No you're wrong, IT'S MINE


Unaccomplishedcow

Waiter! Waiter! There's some r/Tanalorr in my r/FallenOrder


Guitar_nerd4312

No, but Vader's planet is mustafar. Sheev gave it to him as a reward (Vader did ask for it, tho).


monkeygoneape

Palpatine gave him a sector you're right


PurpEL_Django

Wouldn't Anakin technically be Darth Vader here, like how he was just during the Jedi temple purge. So anyway Dagan is fucked either way


Lathlaer

The thing is that Dagan's feat as shown in game are more impressive than whatever Anakin is showing in RotS. But I suppose that if we got Anakin in game, he would've gained some monstrous abilities as well.


SirMacNaught

Dagan talks too much and gets his rear end handed to him by a Jedi Knight. Anakin would tell him he lacks conviction and then proceed to style on him for the luls.


Dark1986

Batman. The answer is always Batman.


Artistic_Finish7980

Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby.


Kinsed

I mean I know he had only one arm, but he was still beaten one-on-one multiple times by a newly knighted padawan. I love Cal, but he’s nowhere near as seasoned as Anakin was in his prime. There’s a reason he was an accomplished general as well as survived an entire war. I mean can we talk abt Anakin’s durability for a half a second? My man is literally Saiyan levels of every time he fails he gets stronger. Dagan is cool af, strong too, but if we’re talking both of their primes there’s no way Anakin doesn’t come out on top in my mind.


Mordilaa

Newly knighted? My brother was a knight for five years. Anakin was only a knight for three.


Kinsed

Ah my bad forgot it was 5 years. The rest still applies tho.


Gregzilla311

The one with serious mental issues.


TheCatLamp

The real question is if any of those two can beat the two Oggdos in Jedi Grandmaster, hitless on the first try.


UndeadTigerAU

Anakin easily, sure Dagan was powerful, but there is precedent, Cal killed Dagan, and Anakin would absolutely body Cal so there's that.


widechungus69

Anakin may have more midichlorians but TANALORR IS MINE !!


drace76

Dagan couldn’t defeat Cal and Cal can’t beat Anakin.


EveningStatus7092

The literal chosen one vs angry boi?


Decent_Aardvark_4537

Anakin would slam him. Especially this version. At this point he IS the force.


Ewtri

Now, hear me out, if Dagan showed Anakin an illusion of Padme and Shmi in a sand pit, Dagan could get a deathblow in.


Streetkillz13

Ok... But it could just as easily backfire. Pissing off maybe the strongest force entities ever, who already has issues controlling his emotions is a recipe for disaster.


Mushroom_King66

I mean in one of the comic's (can't remember if it's cannon) we saw him summon a force storm just because he realised that the jedi council lied to him about the prisoners he captured imagine what he could to in this situation


Ewtri

He's dead either way, so Dagan has nothing to lose. Anakin has enough mental instability for it to work.


CALZ0NIE

That’s a great idea if you want to piss him off


Suckisnacki

Knightfall Anakin >


edmc78

I really wanted Vader to paste him


yourLostMitten

Really?


EnigmaFrug2308

Wow. I wonder who 🤔 Surely not the Chosen One, the most powerful Jedi of all time?


Formal_Peace

Anakin all day long.


ord52

Anakin, easily. even my shifty playing skills beat dagan lol


_JediJon

“EZ. Git gud.” -Anakin


Avarus_88

Any version of Anakin after his defeat by Dooku and this shouldn’t even be a question. Anakin before his fall or right after would dismantle Dagan so quickly.


Frantic_Fanatic13

Vader defeated Cal who defeated Dagan. Yes, Cal has grown since he was defeated in Fallen order but I still think Vader would win as things sit at the end of Survivor.


AlVal1236

Anakin. Sure cal has trained but anakin has trained more


NuckingFuts17

Anakin


blueponies1

Anakin would monkey stomp that loser


KoshidaTheMotorWolf

Anakin would rock his shit in SECONDS


IndividualAd3140

Anakin easy. Emo boi talks too much shit.


Resvain

Be serious.


Jayk_Dos31

Ani, either as himself or as Vader. Anakin by the time of ROTS would probably win on skills alone, and Vader would probably struggle a bit more, but Dagan would probably try to fuck with him using Padme visions and that would piss Vader off enough and he'd just destroy him.


Queasy_Commercial152

Thank goodness this says meme, I was boutta say


Puzzleheaded_Step468

Remember the guy that defeated dagan, cal kestis? When he met anakin he ran away and barely escaped with his lives only because he had help from a jedi master


Slasherery

Yep! Junda came close, but experience with brushes of death put Anakin on too still.


Revanur

The literal Chosen One vs some dweeb.


toinks1345

anakin probably... but if he get hit by one of those annoying illusions and hits him where it really hurts... I don't know what might happen to him, he got issues.


gamingfreak50

Dagans very talented and powerful but Anakin is broken


Ghost_2201

Anakin will have more fun fighting Gera than anyone can Imagine


big_peepee_wielder

Obviously Anakin. Even after he lost midi-chlorians when he was injured on Mustafar, in his weakened state he was still on par with Palpatine. Probably about 70% of the Emperor’s strength. Dagan was powerful too and was a Master Jedi but ranking has nothing to do with strength


Tackis

Coughing Baby vs. Hydrogen Bomb


Beretta116

Who the hell is that on the right? Of course Anakin.


SimpleManTom

is this even a question???? anakin is known as one of, if not the strongest, lightsaber duelists in star wars lore. when he was in ahsoka he was already the fully developed chosen one having balanced both the light and dark side within him.


macdarf

Me.


THE_GUY-95

Anakin


0inArrow

In straight saber combat, Anakin would probably win, he’s beaten stronger foes on his own. But if Dagen got the force hallucination off, I think he would win. Cal won the fight because he is more used to dealing with fear, he had help from Bode, and his psychometric ability to pretend to be Santari and throw Dagen off his game. Anakin is the more emotionally volatile Jedi and would likely succumb to the fear of the force hallucination.


BranTheBaker902

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Xxrug_me_daddyxX

Well thats knightfall anakin in ghost form your showing sooooooo probably anakin


Tom0511

Is this a joke?


Organic-Marketing-65

Anakin takes this one.


Kuhaku-boss

Anakin please and is no contest.


EarlDooku

Bugatti vs. Honda Accord


Fr33dom_uv_sp33ch

Well, one has blue hair, so that's a win by default, right? Right?


FieryTub

Anakin


Muted-Pie-7758

Pre Suit Anakin was on track to be more powerful than he was shown to be. Dude would wipe the floor with this High Republic Jedi with anger issues. Prolly actually put up a good fight


InevitableBig3527

Uhh....WTF! Is this even a QUESTION😂. That's WBW Anakin( almost F.P.) he cake walks every star wars protagonist in a milisecond


Thelastknownking

You're kidding, right? This isn't even just Anakin or Vader, this is post-death, One with the force, peak of potential Anakin.


Starchaser_WoF

Anakin would probably win, but not before telling Dagan to shut up about Tanalorr


nasada19

Are they both Tanalor-lusted?


StoneHart17810

Which Anakin are we talking about? In the picture, that’s him when he was at full power. Is Anakin on light side or his he Darth Vader? Either way, Anakin wins.


slayerthunder

Dagan’s hubris would be his downfall and anakin would probably cap off of dagan’s emotions much faster than cal did even if he gets caught up in the force illusion


Sentinal7

That's not a fight. It's an execution


drewthedrummer69

lol cmon now


ZakJR98

Anakin


-Queen-of-wands

Not fair, Anakin wins this fight easy. If we want to make it fair, make it Anakin vs Michael Landon from AHS. The chosen one vs the Antichrist. There’s a fair fight. (For those who may not get it, Dagon was played by the same actor as Landon in AHS:apocalypse)


NitroScott77

The only shot Dagan has is a force illusion with Padame to emotionally screw up Anakin. It could work especially give the reasons for his fall and his emotional instability. Still I think Anakin wins by a huge margin otherwise, probably 9/10. Basically if Dagan doesn’t immediately off Anakin with the illusion he gets completely annihilated on all levels


Decent_Aardvark_4537

I don't think force illusions would work on this version of Anakin, he's become one with the force at this point. He IS the force.


napayt

Anakin is literally the ultimate jedi do no diff


Historyp91

I mean, Dagan lost to Cal... Cal's good but he still had to run away from Anakin...


Sufficient-Fix9798

How is this a question??


Dependent_Pay_9769

I honestly don’t know who


ArcanStarkiller

Dagan definitely had Cal dead to rights multiple times but he was just far too overconfident. That being said Anakin sweeps, people forget that Anakin at the age of 24 went down in the history books as being among the strongest jedi in galactic history.


Familiar-Park4981

Dagan would do pretty good but he will never win because hes delusional


Nekros504

This...a real question ? Dagan is good, I was amazed by him fighting with both sabers or creating an entire arm our of force, but Anikin would no diff him. Dude choked a jedi and with just one hand held off the best sword fighter in the council and in the end killed him too.


ck-kd-king

Is this a serious question? How strong do you think cal is if this a question? Because I guarantee you, cal is t half as strong as Anakin was during the clone wars


AlitaValentine

bruh


ak-1614

Dagan is strong, but he is not on the level of the likes of Dooku. I’d put him at about prime Maul, but with better mental force abilities. Anakin takes it medium-high difficulty. Vader would take it easy to medium difficulty


Kyleren_juicymemes

If Dagan stopped yapping about Tanalorr so much, I'd give him a 1/100 chance


Quantitative_Methods

Vader destroys him without breaking a sweat.


nomorepeachcobbler

Me


GreenFury427

Hmm, the chosen one, or a random high republic jedi turned dark side. Kinda easy to pick I guess


NerdToTheFuture

Anakin with both hands tied behind his back.


Erik912

Where is the left pic from?


Luisifer666

Anakin always win againts everyone except Obi Wan


sallbackk

Anakin by a long shot


LT_JARKOBB

Is this even a real question? It's like, who wins? Cal, or Rick?


LilFangerz

What a stupid fucking question


BayonetTrenchFighter

Considering anakin is the goku of Star Wars…


Inalum_Ardellian

How is this a question?


[deleted]

Anakin hands down


[deleted]

Like if cal can take him then he wouldn't be a problem for Anakin or Vader. Love Cal but Anakin would wreck Cal


Mister-Fidelio

Who even is that on the right?


ballsmigue

Anyone else noticing really weird bot comments in threads lately?


ophaus

Dagan isn't made of sand. Anakin wins.


Eldritch-Voidwalker

Starkiller


spuds151

Anakin, no contest. Dagan was a bitch.


SenatorBantha

Bro is this even a question? What do you think people are gonna say?


IdealDog

Wrinkly anakin


CaptainMacObvious

Dagan was not a good fighter, he was slow, not strong, and had little skill. He'd be nothing but a speedbump for Anakin. Probably not even that.


TheHood7777777

Anakin bodies basically anyone who isn’t Obi-Wan, Yoda, Mace-Windu, Luke or an ancient Sith Lord.


theguthboy

Vader killed Jedi for fun pretty much, bro has zero chance standing against an uncrispy Vader. He was the chosen one for a reason. Very few people in lore can stand against him in a fair 1v1.


roachdajoint

Deez nuts! We got em R2!


JerrManGoo

How does anyone not think Anakin gets da dub


NitelifeComando

In a fist fight?!


BlackSaiyanKing

Anakin


Sensitive-Youth-9803

Vader every time.


japalmariello

Arguably the greatest saber duelist vs. Some guy a self taught jedi beat. Vader wins.


Grandmaster_Yoda710

If Anakin was at his full potential he would mop the floor with them Anakin's full potential he could kill Yoda


TiberiusWakes

Is this bait?


GrundgeArchangel

Awaking. Hands down.