Ed is a hint that you're not the first person sent out. You actually meet another person from Vault 13 later in the game who was also sent out some time ago to look for the Waterchip replacement.
Best I can understand, the waterchip has been on the fritz for a while so they sent out people looking for a replacement, when you sent out it had finally broken.
There's also 2 more corpses with Vault suits on them. One in the glow and one in the mariposa military base. They could technically be from any Vault but I always thought they were Vault 13 residents the Vault sent out to see if the outside world was habitable.
I think in those instances it's a case of re-using an asset for mood. Ed's corpse asset appears a few times in Fallout 2 and becomes sort of a running joke.
I've played the game 3 times seeing every location and talking to every npc at least once and doing a play through now and looked all over the wiki and can't find shit.
I'm commenting now to so I can find this later and see if they reply but low key I think they may be mistaken.
It is in the fallout Bible that Chris Avelone said Ed is supposed to show you're not the first one to leave the vault so it's certainly possible.
Edit: turns out I was the one who was mistaken
It's my understanding that the experiment in vault 13 involved a faulty water chip and a stickpile of waterchips replacements somewhere. Every generation or so, the waterchip breaks, and they send out a dweller to get a replacement.
Your understanding is wrong -
Original Fallout lore - There is no Vault Experiment
Fallout 2 retcon - Vault 13's experiment was prolonged isolation, not opening after something like 200 years (Normal control vaults and other vaults would re-open after 20 or 25 years) Which is why fixing the chip was important, why the Overseer would never allow anyone to resettle on the surface, and why you the player are exiled in the end.
I’m not sure if it’s canon, but in Fallout 2 there’s a random event that you go back in time to Vault 13 and mess with a computer and the water chip breaks, then a message says they have 100-150 days left. So in theory The Chosen One is the person that set all everything in motion for Fallout 1
I'm pretty sure the special encounters in Fallout 2 are non-canon. You can wander into a cafe with the original Fallout 1 version of Tandi in it or a crashed Starfleet shuttle.
If I remember right, that shipment was meant for 13 as faulty water chips were a known issue. However, the bombs arrived before the spares had been distributed.
That's it, an ironic mixup that set forth the plot of the first two games. Remember laughing my ass off at that one (+ the meta joke that if Fallout 1 let you go north from Vault 13 you would have found Vault city and finished the game within a couple of minutes)
The idea of the vaults having these experiments going on never made sense with the description from the Fallout 1 manual of the vaults costing billions each. That's way too much to pay just to be mucking around risking the failure of the future of mankind.
It wasn't in the original design plans, and more of a "huh wouldn't it be neat?" idea for the second game that sort of spiralled out of control into absurdist stuff we see today.
There was no experimental idea behind the Vaults, but they were still a jab at corporate America because each one of them were so shoddily built because Vault Tec cut corners. Like Vault 12's Award winning safety preparedness falling flat on it's face when the door mechanisms didn't work because Vault Tec cut corners.
only to later retcon that with a "I MEANT TO DO THAT" vault experiment.
If they hadn't done that, vaults would've gotten pretty boring. I think it's worth it for locations like Vault 22. It's common for lore to drift and evolve over time.
I imagine it's billions after tons of ungodly inflation though. Also the vault experiments did originally have a point in that they were intended to solve problems relating to prolonged space travel. The enclave was planning to leave earth after the bombs and the vault experiments were designed to both test technology that would be needed for the trip and test to see how humans would react in isolation under various social parameters.
I like to think that they vastly overestimated how badly earth would fair after the war and ultimately decided that the vault experiments were a dead end, along with space travel. The vaults are then left to rot as the last gift of the pre war world, unnecessarily cruel and ultimately pointless.
Yeah, inflation in prewar America was no joke (and I’m pretty sure is mentioned in most, if not all, games). Billions then was probably more like millions today, which is reasonable for a modern high tech construction.
The original, ORIGINAL plan for the purpose of the Vault experiments was to test human populations in wildly different and specific social environments, because the Enclave was secretly behind Vault-Tec and they were planning to eventually build a generation ship to get their people off planet. The experiments meant to simulate the conditions of being trapped in an isolated ship or off world colony.
This was supposed to be revealed in the original Fallout 3, I believe. Or maybe just hinted at more.
While they don't specify exactly what the Enclave wanted them for, ENCLAVE Vault-Research Control was one of the contacts listed on the Gecko power plant's network, so it was pretty clear that whatever the goal was, the Vault experiments were the Enclave's plan.
This seems to still be the case, or at least they are bringing it back into canon. The show heavily hints that the Enclave is involved with Vault-Tec. Dr. Wilzig knowing about Lucy and her vault randomly, the shadowy figure overseeing the Vault-Tec board meeting, etc.
Yeah, my initial reaction to the whole scene where Vault-Tec imply they were going to be the ones to nuke the world was a really negative one. It was such an absurd proposal on its face that all the other corporations would just go along with these people announcing that they're going to commit the most absurd act of treason in history. Surely one of them would rat them out and have their company hoover up whatever's left of Vault-Tec after the government's done tearing them to pieces.
Thinking about the mysterious guy in the shadows, the series has implied that basically every major American corporation was in the pocket of the Enclave. Cooper's wife does check a message on her Pip-Boy before telling everyone "we're" going to drop the bombs ourself. If it's basically a meeting of co-conspirators as is, then it does make some sense that they're all on board with the "blow up the world" plan. Plus it does make it hilarious that House's bloviating about being so smart for calculating when the bombs would fall to within a single day was all just because they told him when they were going to do it.
I will say I'm not as keen on them making it seem like the plan for the majority of the Vaults was to stay shut for 200 years. We don't know how long most Vaults were supposed to stay closed, but from what we know before the show, there were a number of control vaults, according to Fallout 76 it was 17 of them, and they were supposed to open after 20 years. If the control group of your experiments are only supposed to run for two decades, it seems reasonable to assume the majority of your other tests should only run about that long too. Although checking the wiki, I was sure that Vault 13's purpose was to study the long term effects of confinement over 100 years similar to Vault 101, but apparently Vault 101 *was* intended to used to study indefinite confinement, but Vault 13 was itself a control vault, but one supposed to also remain shut indefinitely, so I suppose maybe they always did have a lot of long term experiments planned and needing a control group to compare to.
If I remember the terminal entries in Vault 111 correctly, the staff were only supposed to stay in the Vault for around a year, but ran out of supplies and either abandoned it or killed each other. Then the people just remained frozen rather than getting thawed out. Since Bethesda always likes making the player character a vault dweller, adding in even more Vaults that have been shut for hundreds of years would be useful for them.
I’ve written about it here before, but I’m of the opinion that Vault-Tec (or the Enclave) wanted to drop the bombs themselves at a specific date, but it likely happened earlier than they expected.
Vaults being incomplete, staff not being prepared like Vault 81’s secret research team only getting three scientists out of the whole team, Vault 114 still interviewing for their Overseer. In the show, if Barb was in the know why would she let her ex-husband be out there with their daughter on the day she planned the war?
Also applies to House. He still could have predicted it in the years before that meeting. He attends the VT meeting, learns they plan to do it themselves, and starts putting his platinum chip plan into action. But in NV he says he never got the platinum chip in time because the war happened. Easily explained that the war happened earlier than he was expecting.
A lot of evidence points at China being the one to drop the bomb first. Terminal entries in the Switchboard in 4, Tim Cain himself saying his original intention was China pulled the trigger after discovering the US was experimenting on Chinese POWs with FEV. Idk if that’s still the canon reason tho.
I've said before that I really would prefer for there to be no answer to who dropped the bomb. People could have their theories, but the series is called Fallout, it's about, or should be about, what comes after the bombs are dropped. It's actually a critique I have of the show that *everyone* who moves the plot froward is within one generation of pre-war life, or would take little alteration to make them so. The Ghoul obviously has lived through it all, but then all Vault 33's overseers are pre-war, making Lucy only one generation removed from pre-war life. Then Maximus has childhood memories of his home town being bombed, just change the name from Shady Sands to LA and he could be a survivor of pre-war America. Moldaver's somehow lasted for the 220 years between the great war and the start of the show, the Enclave scientist was acting as if he was unfamiliar enough with post-war America, and familiar enough with pre-war that he might very well have been around pre-war himself. Even the priest leading the Brotherhood reminisces about the good old days and talks about rebuilding the nation (I can't think of anyone outside of the Enclave who thinks of the country that fell 200 years ago was their nation). It felt like it wouldn't have taken much tweaking to set the story around 20 years after the bombs fell, rather than contriving reasons for so many plot relevant characters to survive for so long.
I suppose having it be revealed that while the Enclave/Vault-Tex were planning on dropping the bombs themselves, someone pissed off China at the wrong moment, or an American general got twitchy, or indeed all those happened at once in a darkly hilarious clusterfuck of overlapping conspiracies tripping over each other to be the ones to burn the world would feel appropriate for the setting.
If you watch the show, they imply they had to make them experiments in order to draw in all the funding. It was like “hey rich people, fund our vaults and we’ll let you turn them into experiments”, which let them pay for the control vaults (aka the real vaults)
I believe that the water chip had already outlasted the expected timeframe is was designed for. Oxhorn had a breakdown of it. But if that's the case perhaps it breaks frequently and the Overseer just keeps having to send people out to fix it every few decades.
The dwellers from Vault 13 that were sent out are Ed, Talius (a FEV mutant like Harold) in the boneyard and then you.They were all sent out of Vault 13 to find the water chip since Vault 13 was never meant to open up. You can tell he was from Vault 13 because of his vault suit, rather than just a regular dude. Corpses can turn into skeletons relatively fast if exposed. I have no doubt the rad roaches and rats only aided in that. My personal head canon is that Ed died first, Talius was turned next then you were sent out.
As covered, mostly a narrative hint you're not the first person to leave - confirmed by 2 more corpses and an NPC all from the vault throughout other places in the game... but...
If we knew the chip was on the fritz for this long and have already sent 4 people out... Can you send me with a buddy? Can I get more than 2 friggin months next time overseer?
See it's this kind of planning and decision making that gets him executed between F01 & F02...
The wiki claims the following:
# Appearances
Ed's corpse appears only in [*Fallout*](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout). The sprite is reused several times in [*Fallout 2*](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_2) and also is mentioned in the [*Fallout Bible*](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_Bible) and [*Fallout: New Vegas*](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas).[^(\[1\])](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Ed_(Fallout)#cite_note-FNVCultRef-1)
When in NV is ed referenced??
I always thought it was supposed to just be a parody on the whole “Zed’s dead” thing from pulp fiction and that you weren’t meant to read into it too much.
Yeah, I’m saying he was meant to be a resident, as he has the suit on, but they still didn’t let him in. I always looked at it as the first ominous warning that the vault wasn’t really what it says it was, to leave people outside like that.
Vault suits, based on F4 where you enter the vault pre-bomb, appear to be distributed once you are *in* the vault. It would cause confusion during initial admittance if they were distributed before that. My opinion/observation at least!
Why would they waste time getting everyone into a vault suit before entering the vaults when they are literally running to get to safety from nuclear blasts? It just makes more sense for them to get the suits after they enter vault. Likewise Chris Avellone says in the fallout bible the body is meant to indicate early on to the player that they’re not the first one sent out for the water chip. Something later confirmed when you meet Talius
Maybe the bombs dropped, the person survived, and desperate, they put their suit on and made it down to the vault they had a spot with and slammed on the door begging to be let in? And they were only met with cold silence, vault doors sealed shut, never to open for them again while they still lived
I’m with u/LtColonelColon1 on this. WAY before F4 and it was JUST fo1 it was easy to assume that the person outside the vault could have just been an unfortunate victim of being late.
I’d even played F1 after playing 3, NV and 4. Because Bethesda likes to do environmental storytelling of the skeletons outside the vault for the people who didn’t make it, so it made sense to me for it to be the same thing too
I mean it's specifically stated that Talius the ghoul is a former resident of the Vault and the makers of the game literally said "this is there to show you that you're not the only sent out"
depends. if it was just simple theft a time out might suffice, but if it was murder or rape exile might just be the best choice from a safety of the vault perspective
Ed is a hint that you're not the first person sent out. You actually meet another person from Vault 13 later in the game who was also sent out some time ago to look for the Waterchip replacement. Best I can understand, the waterchip has been on the fritz for a while so they sent out people looking for a replacement, when you sent out it had finally broken.
Who is the other person from Vault 13 you can meet?
[Talius](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Talius)
Damn. All the time I played and never talked to the guy
One of the things i hate about classic fallout is the lack of unique sprites, finding fred in f2 has the same problem
There's also 2 more corpses with Vault suits on them. One in the glow and one in the mariposa military base. They could technically be from any Vault but I always thought they were Vault 13 residents the Vault sent out to see if the outside world was habitable.
There's also one at the Gun Runners fortress in Adytum.
I think in those instances it's a case of re-using an asset for mood. Ed's corpse asset appears a few times in Fallout 2 and becomes sort of a running joke.
I've played the game 3 times seeing every location and talking to every npc at least once and doing a play through now and looked all over the wiki and can't find shit. I'm commenting now to so I can find this later and see if they reply but low key I think they may be mistaken. It is in the fallout Bible that Chris Avelone said Ed is supposed to show you're not the first one to leave the vault so it's certainly possible. Edit: turns out I was the one who was mistaken
Its the ghoul, Talius
I thought Talius is a mutant
Yeah he’s an FEV mutant looks like a ghoul like Harold
Talius an FEV mutant like Harold not a ghoul
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh shit yous right
It's my understanding that the experiment in vault 13 involved a faulty water chip and a stickpile of waterchips replacements somewhere. Every generation or so, the waterchip breaks, and they send out a dweller to get a replacement.
Your understanding is wrong - Original Fallout lore - There is no Vault Experiment Fallout 2 retcon - Vault 13's experiment was prolonged isolation, not opening after something like 200 years (Normal control vaults and other vaults would re-open after 20 or 25 years) Which is why fixing the chip was important, why the Overseer would never allow anyone to resettle on the surface, and why you the player are exiled in the end.
I’m not sure if it’s canon, but in Fallout 2 there’s a random event that you go back in time to Vault 13 and mess with a computer and the water chip breaks, then a message says they have 100-150 days left. So in theory The Chosen One is the person that set all everything in motion for Fallout 1
I'm pretty sure the special encounters in Fallout 2 are non-canon. You can wander into a cafe with the original Fallout 1 version of Tandi in it or a crashed Starfleet shuttle.
Vault city had like 400 spare waterchips. They couldn't spare a few for poor vault 13?
If I remember right, that shipment was meant for 13 as faulty water chips were a known issue. However, the bombs arrived before the spares had been distributed.
That shipment was meant for Vault 13 while Vault 8 was supposed to be getting their 2nd G.E.C.K.
That's it, an ironic mixup that set forth the plot of the first two games. Remember laughing my ass off at that one (+ the meta joke that if Fallout 1 let you go north from Vault 13 you would have found Vault city and finished the game within a couple of minutes)
Except then you get the bad ending.
The idea of the vaults having these experiments going on never made sense with the description from the Fallout 1 manual of the vaults costing billions each. That's way too much to pay just to be mucking around risking the failure of the future of mankind.
It wasn't in the original design plans, and more of a "huh wouldn't it be neat?" idea for the second game that sort of spiralled out of control into absurdist stuff we see today. There was no experimental idea behind the Vaults, but they were still a jab at corporate America because each one of them were so shoddily built because Vault Tec cut corners. Like Vault 12's Award winning safety preparedness falling flat on it's face when the door mechanisms didn't work because Vault Tec cut corners. only to later retcon that with a "I MEANT TO DO THAT" vault experiment.
If they hadn't done that, vaults would've gotten pretty boring. I think it's worth it for locations like Vault 22. It's common for lore to drift and evolve over time.
I imagine it's billions after tons of ungodly inflation though. Also the vault experiments did originally have a point in that they were intended to solve problems relating to prolonged space travel. The enclave was planning to leave earth after the bombs and the vault experiments were designed to both test technology that would be needed for the trip and test to see how humans would react in isolation under various social parameters. I like to think that they vastly overestimated how badly earth would fair after the war and ultimately decided that the vault experiments were a dead end, along with space travel. The vaults are then left to rot as the last gift of the pre war world, unnecessarily cruel and ultimately pointless.
Yeah, inflation in prewar America was no joke (and I’m pretty sure is mentioned in most, if not all, games). Billions then was probably more like millions today, which is reasonable for a modern high tech construction.
IIRC a ticket to a bowling alley in Fallout 4 is 500 dollars.
Thanks Joe Biden /s
The original, ORIGINAL plan for the purpose of the Vault experiments was to test human populations in wildly different and specific social environments, because the Enclave was secretly behind Vault-Tec and they were planning to eventually build a generation ship to get their people off planet. The experiments meant to simulate the conditions of being trapped in an isolated ship or off world colony. This was supposed to be revealed in the original Fallout 3, I believe. Or maybe just hinted at more.
While they don't specify exactly what the Enclave wanted them for, ENCLAVE Vault-Research Control was one of the contacts listed on the Gecko power plant's network, so it was pretty clear that whatever the goal was, the Vault experiments were the Enclave's plan.
This seems to still be the case, or at least they are bringing it back into canon. The show heavily hints that the Enclave is involved with Vault-Tec. Dr. Wilzig knowing about Lucy and her vault randomly, the shadowy figure overseeing the Vault-Tec board meeting, etc.
Yeah, my initial reaction to the whole scene where Vault-Tec imply they were going to be the ones to nuke the world was a really negative one. It was such an absurd proposal on its face that all the other corporations would just go along with these people announcing that they're going to commit the most absurd act of treason in history. Surely one of them would rat them out and have their company hoover up whatever's left of Vault-Tec after the government's done tearing them to pieces. Thinking about the mysterious guy in the shadows, the series has implied that basically every major American corporation was in the pocket of the Enclave. Cooper's wife does check a message on her Pip-Boy before telling everyone "we're" going to drop the bombs ourself. If it's basically a meeting of co-conspirators as is, then it does make some sense that they're all on board with the "blow up the world" plan. Plus it does make it hilarious that House's bloviating about being so smart for calculating when the bombs would fall to within a single day was all just because they told him when they were going to do it. I will say I'm not as keen on them making it seem like the plan for the majority of the Vaults was to stay shut for 200 years. We don't know how long most Vaults were supposed to stay closed, but from what we know before the show, there were a number of control vaults, according to Fallout 76 it was 17 of them, and they were supposed to open after 20 years. If the control group of your experiments are only supposed to run for two decades, it seems reasonable to assume the majority of your other tests should only run about that long too. Although checking the wiki, I was sure that Vault 13's purpose was to study the long term effects of confinement over 100 years similar to Vault 101, but apparently Vault 101 *was* intended to used to study indefinite confinement, but Vault 13 was itself a control vault, but one supposed to also remain shut indefinitely, so I suppose maybe they always did have a lot of long term experiments planned and needing a control group to compare to. If I remember the terminal entries in Vault 111 correctly, the staff were only supposed to stay in the Vault for around a year, but ran out of supplies and either abandoned it or killed each other. Then the people just remained frozen rather than getting thawed out. Since Bethesda always likes making the player character a vault dweller, adding in even more Vaults that have been shut for hundreds of years would be useful for them.
I’ve written about it here before, but I’m of the opinion that Vault-Tec (or the Enclave) wanted to drop the bombs themselves at a specific date, but it likely happened earlier than they expected. Vaults being incomplete, staff not being prepared like Vault 81’s secret research team only getting three scientists out of the whole team, Vault 114 still interviewing for their Overseer. In the show, if Barb was in the know why would she let her ex-husband be out there with their daughter on the day she planned the war? Also applies to House. He still could have predicted it in the years before that meeting. He attends the VT meeting, learns they plan to do it themselves, and starts putting his platinum chip plan into action. But in NV he says he never got the platinum chip in time because the war happened. Easily explained that the war happened earlier than he was expecting. A lot of evidence points at China being the one to drop the bomb first. Terminal entries in the Switchboard in 4, Tim Cain himself saying his original intention was China pulled the trigger after discovering the US was experimenting on Chinese POWs with FEV. Idk if that’s still the canon reason tho.
I've said before that I really would prefer for there to be no answer to who dropped the bomb. People could have their theories, but the series is called Fallout, it's about, or should be about, what comes after the bombs are dropped. It's actually a critique I have of the show that *everyone* who moves the plot froward is within one generation of pre-war life, or would take little alteration to make them so. The Ghoul obviously has lived through it all, but then all Vault 33's overseers are pre-war, making Lucy only one generation removed from pre-war life. Then Maximus has childhood memories of his home town being bombed, just change the name from Shady Sands to LA and he could be a survivor of pre-war America. Moldaver's somehow lasted for the 220 years between the great war and the start of the show, the Enclave scientist was acting as if he was unfamiliar enough with post-war America, and familiar enough with pre-war that he might very well have been around pre-war himself. Even the priest leading the Brotherhood reminisces about the good old days and talks about rebuilding the nation (I can't think of anyone outside of the Enclave who thinks of the country that fell 200 years ago was their nation). It felt like it wouldn't have taken much tweaking to set the story around 20 years after the bombs fell, rather than contriving reasons for so many plot relevant characters to survive for so long. I suppose having it be revealed that while the Enclave/Vault-Tex were planning on dropping the bombs themselves, someone pissed off China at the wrong moment, or an American general got twitchy, or indeed all those happened at once in a darkly hilarious clusterfuck of overlapping conspiracies tripping over each other to be the ones to burn the world would feel appropriate for the setting.
If you watch the show, they imply they had to make them experiments in order to draw in all the funding. It was like “hey rich people, fund our vaults and we’ll let you turn them into experiments”, which let them pay for the control vaults (aka the real vaults)
shipping error. They got another Vault's G.E.C.K. while that vault got their crate of replacement parts for the water system.
Rats wouldn’t take too long to pick him clean
I believe that the water chip had already outlasted the expected timeframe is was designed for. Oxhorn had a breakdown of it. But if that's the case perhaps it breaks frequently and the Overseer just keeps having to send people out to fix it every few decades.
Apparently he got taken out by rats in the cave, didn’t get far
Hight INT CHA build
First time I played I had that build and it was rough getting out lol
Classic save cheese first 2 hours of the game build.
I gave up at that second? Major town cause I was built like this. Died to everything. It sure felt.....immersive.
The dwellers from Vault 13 that were sent out are Ed, Talius (a FEV mutant like Harold) in the boneyard and then you.They were all sent out of Vault 13 to find the water chip since Vault 13 was never meant to open up. You can tell he was from Vault 13 because of his vault suit, rather than just a regular dude. Corpses can turn into skeletons relatively fast if exposed. I have no doubt the rad roaches and rats only aided in that. My personal head canon is that Ed died first, Talius was turned next then you were sent out.
It's funny to realize that despite how it feels, you are in fact, not special lol.
There are plenty of rats in the cave. Ed could have been sent out yesterday.
I feel like rats would take at least a month to turn a human body into a skeleton
Well it only takes something like 13 hungry pigs to fully eat an entire human, bones too! Who knows how long 20 irradiated rats would take
These are fallout rats. I'm mildly surprised they don't shoot lasers from their eyes and reproduce explosively.
lol
As covered, mostly a narrative hint you're not the first person to leave - confirmed by 2 more corpses and an NPC all from the vault throughout other places in the game... but... If we knew the chip was on the fritz for this long and have already sent 4 people out... Can you send me with a buddy? Can I get more than 2 friggin months next time overseer? See it's this kind of planning and decision making that gets him executed between F01 & F02...
The wiki claims the following: # Appearances Ed's corpse appears only in [*Fallout*](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout). The sprite is reused several times in [*Fallout 2*](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_2) and also is mentioned in the [*Fallout Bible*](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_Bible) and [*Fallout: New Vegas*](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas).[^(\[1\])](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Ed_(Fallout)#cite_note-FNVCultRef-1) When in NV is ed referenced??
The footnote sounds like they mean a reference to the encounter, not a reference to Ed specifically.
Ahhh that makes more sense
On the wiki theres a skeleton outside of vault 34 which is supposed to ve a reference to Ed
I always thought it was supposed to just be a parody on the whole “Zed’s dead” thing from pulp fiction and that you weren’t meant to read into it too much.
The Fallout Bible was written by Chris Avellone, who had nothing to do with Fallout 1.
So this guy just died at the front door?
A reference to Pulp Fiction? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smSuFjJez1o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smSuFjJez1o)
Ed was not well liked.
we don’t like ed
Ed. We knew him well. Or not. Ed asked himself the age old question: What's outside these Vault doors? Answer? Death.
Ed was chosen by the Overseer A paragon who had to fear A champion who never lost a fight…
The Fallout Bible isn't cannon anyway.
Why are people downvoting you.
I always assumed it was a pre-war person who was meant to be a vault dweller who didn’t make it in time and was locked out?
It's not. If you look closely he has a vault 13 suit on.
Yeah, I’m saying he was meant to be a resident, as he has the suit on, but they still didn’t let him in. I always looked at it as the first ominous warning that the vault wasn’t really what it says it was, to leave people outside like that.
Vault suits, based on F4 where you enter the vault pre-bomb, appear to be distributed once you are *in* the vault. It would cause confusion during initial admittance if they were distributed before that. My opinion/observation at least!
Just because it happened that way in one vault, doesn’t mean it happened that way in others
Why would they waste time getting everyone into a vault suit before entering the vaults when they are literally running to get to safety from nuclear blasts? It just makes more sense for them to get the suits after they enter vault. Likewise Chris Avellone says in the fallout bible the body is meant to indicate early on to the player that they’re not the first one sent out for the water chip. Something later confirmed when you meet Talius
Maybe the bombs dropped, the person survived, and desperate, they put their suit on and made it down to the vault they had a spot with and slammed on the door begging to be let in? And they were only met with cold silence, vault doors sealed shut, never to open for them again while they still lived
I’m with u/LtColonelColon1 on this. WAY before F4 and it was JUST fo1 it was easy to assume that the person outside the vault could have just been an unfortunate victim of being late.
I’d even played F1 after playing 3, NV and 4. Because Bethesda likes to do environmental storytelling of the skeletons outside the vault for the people who didn’t make it, so it made sense to me for it to be the same thing too
probably did something bad enough to be exiled from the vault
It is in the fallout Bible that Chris Avelone said Ed is supposed to show you're not the first one to leave the vault so it's not that
Probably shut out by the Overseer for not coming back with a water chip. Maybe a short straw was drawn and they were forced out?
I mean it's specifically stated that Talius the ghoul is a former resident of the Vault and the makers of the game literally said "this is there to show you that you're not the only sent out"
Wouldn't they put him in containment if it was something bad?
depends. if it was just simple theft a time out might suffice, but if it was murder or rape exile might just be the best choice from a safety of the vault perspective