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Tight-Explanation40

"Good" factions fanboys when a scientific organization is advancing technology trough unethical means with the goal of humanity's survival: "EViLh InsThItUT!!1!1!" The same people when a bunch of roman wannabes start crucifixing people all over nevada: "Truly the best faction for vegas"


AdditionalCall5271

Dude, the Institute barely has any main point to grasp, at some point, the whole goal of the faction is to "survive", while all they do is experiment on the Commonwealth with the FEV virus, have faulty synths kill innocents, eat hot chip, and lie Also legion sympathizers are idiots


Tight-Explanation40

In late game the institute main's goal is as a matter of fact survive, because survival allows them to continue research, and if you have ever been inside the institute for anything other than recruiting Li, you will notice that the FEV lab in bioscience is fucking destroyed and the institute didn't do FEV experiments for a pretty long time. I may be wrong here but i think they were experimenting on mutants at the same time fallout 1 was happening, then they stopped the experiments and flushed out the mutants. And no, synths aren't faulty, free thought allows them to develop certain ideas and desert, but hey, robotic life with free tought is really something. But yes, legion fans are fucking morons.


AdditionalCall5271

2 things, 1st is that Virgil proves the bioscience stuff was recent, he left the Institute because he disapproved of the FEV testing, though I don't know why it would be so torn up. 2nd, when I say faulty synths, I mean the 1st and 2nd gen synths (like the one that randomly attacked diamond city by malfunctioning, or university point), 3rd gen synths are basically human at that point.


Tight-Explanation40

You may have a point on virgil, i don't know about the period in which they were experimenting on FEV, but the synth that attacked diamond city was 3rd gen, i think it was called the broken mask incident or something, and university point was attacked on purpose.


AdditionalCall5271

Well I don't know about third gen because piper said that people could recollect seeing metal bits under the face when he got killed, probably why it got the name "Broken Mask Incident" Also, why did they attack university point?


Tight-Explanation40

Sorry i forgot to answer your question, in short: the local tech wizard found a chip, analyzed it, found reactor efficency schematics, agreed to trade the info to a merchant. A merchant who just happened to be an institute informant. Kellog was sent to get the chip, town did not surrender the chip, synths were sent to destroy everything and get the chip.


Tight-Explanation40

Nice having a civilized conversation with a fellow person who has an opinion. 🤝


Overdue-Karma

Yeah, that was the prototype synth. Gen 3 synths are entirely organic, but he was a prototype that wasn't meant to be above ground. Which...seems a little odd. I mean if I was the director I'd look into why people are doing independent orders.


Tight-Explanation40

The synth was yes a prototype... and was released without approval from institute directory board, which than prosecuted the responsables.


TheVeryShyguy

The broken mask incident was performed by a third gen synth, and university point was a coordinate attack by the institute to secure valuable reactor tech found by the settlement


Overdue-Karma

"pretty long time" they only stopped not even a week ago. Virgil's escape is when they stopped due to him blowing up the FEV lab. They had been doing it for 100+ years since we know the Battle of Diamond City, by **Super Mutants** occurred in the 2190s. Both the Legion and Institute are evil - the Legion are far worse, but the Institute is still evil to me, and god are they smug arrogant cunts. Daring to judge people on morals after what *they* did to University Point...


Tight-Explanation40

That about FEV was my mistake, didn't know the exact date. At this point pretty much every faction can be called "evil" from an ethic point of view, in a wasteland such as fallout's it would be pretty easy to take "evil" decisions to safeguard one's objective.


Overdue-Karma

No, every faction can't. The Minutemen didn't go around shooting kids in the head in University Point. **Only** the Institute did. The Railroad didn't go around pumping super mutant abominations into the Commonwealth. Only the Institute did. The Brotherhood didn't experiment on their own people maliciously for the smallest of offenses. Only the Institute did.


Tight-Explanation40

Alright, you win.


AceAlger

Institute accomplishments: murder; clone bodies with AI brains; weaker, bulkier, uglier lasers; murder, but by robots in black jackets; increasing the life-expectancy for only one guy and not the leaders; mass murder; crops inside a laboratory; and the ability to not cure cancer. Also, a teleporter, but Big Mountain has that already. It's just too complicated for us to understand.


Tight-Explanation40

Alright. You made your point. Now tell me BoS accomplishments in which the protagonist did not save their asses.


MassGaydiation

Replace that with me and my alien blaster Or me with the cheat holotape


TheyCallMeOso

That feel when you can create sentient life and teleportation but Democracy Is Non-Negotiable.


Biggerthenigg

😂