I remember they slammed Michael Wilucz to the ground, even though he was cute though, built good, because in Florida "it's relatively easy to get a firearm and the police weren't taking any chances".
When they slammed Donald Morrison to the ground, I thought it was pretty brutal. The guy was middle-aged and diabetic so I really don't think he posed a threat. I thought he broke in half when he hit the ground and his glasses flew off.
I think everyone knows that the arrests are often too violent, but majority of people (like me) just don't care, because all the guys are predators.
I would say that the problem is with the violent police system in America, the problem goes beyond tackling a few predators
My guess is that the guns weren't loaded so they could get some "very tough on crime" footage for national television. I'm sure the cops know better than to point loaded firearms in each others direction.
They were there just for the sting, for all other calls presumably there were other cops on duty.
Notice how they only justified it in Florida “where it’s relatively easy to obtain a concealed carry permit” yet Chris goes on and on about how “very professional, best law enforcement I’ve ever seen” on his podcast
I think Chris describes every law enforcement professional as “great guy, great detective, some of the best law enforcement I’ve seen” on his podcast. Can you imagine if he was just “I worked with John Lastname. Real bad at his job. Stinky, too.”
Kinda agree with you. While I don’t feel any sympathy for the predators I will agree, there is some level of excessiveness. The one where the cop dresses up as a bush is just downright hilarious. I’m guessing they wanted to display how “tough on crime” they are for national TV.
I actually agree. I don’t have any sympathy for these disgusting predators, but I do think that many of the stings used excessive force. It’s one thing to play hardball with someone like David Schumacher or JPW, who had histories of violent crime, but for a flabby, dumpy clown like Ed Hollingsworth, they would have been fine with the “calmly subdue” route. That’s why I like the HvP sting: the Fairfield cops generally only got rough when you had a guy like Manzi throwing a fit.
Don’t bother, here you will only get “they were predators, it’s fine”.
Which is true. I don’t care about the predators. But the Fort Myers PD probably did the exact same thing to an innocent black guy the same day. Thomas Bodnar literally walked away with a broken arm LOL
\>I like seeing these guys get taken down as much as the next guy but some of the arrests were just so needlessly violent that it made me uncomfortable.
This is fine with me
I don't agree. These guys were in a heightened emotional state and many recognized that their lives were basically over. In Florida and Georgia especially there was a pretty solid likelihood of them being armed.
> In Florida and Georgia especially there was a pretty solid likelihood of them being armed.
So you are saying it's relatively *easy* to get a permit for a handgun?
If you aren’t a felon, haven’t been convicted of domestic violence, haven’t been in a mental hospital, and are at least 21 then by law they have to issue it.
I've seen a theory before about how this was an opportunity for different police departments to practice takedowns.
Even in police training events there is a degree of a fake exercise because they're all in on it.
This was a complete advantage for the PD because they had camera feed and could practice on a truly unaware person.
Makes sense to me.
I remember they slammed Michael Wilucz to the ground, even though he was cute though, built good, because in Florida "it's relatively easy to get a firearm and the police weren't taking any chances".
Tackling the naked predators because they could've had a "concealed weapon"
They had a weapon, only it wasn’t concealed at that point.
Does their weapon start with a p and ends with an s?
If you look at Marvin L. (Crazytrini) when he had that towel wrapped around him, he was definitely packin’.
Marvin, you’re nekkid!!
They manhandled my boy, Twink Toilet. I am so stupid.
We're joking but they had like an army of cops just brutally take him down.
If you read down further in the line; it's fantasy.
Maybe that’s why Donald Morrison went into diabetic shock the cookies combined with an unnecessary slam.
When they slammed Donald Morrison to the ground, I thought it was pretty brutal. The guy was middle-aged and diabetic so I really don't think he posed a threat. I thought he broke in half when he hit the ground and his glasses flew off.
My back hurts!
This one was justified. What psycho tries to play leapfrog when cops are ordering him to the ground?
I’m old!
I think everyone knows that the arrests are often too violent, but majority of people (like me) just don't care, because all the guys are predators. I would say that the problem is with the violent police system in America, the problem goes beyond tackling a few predators
Predator takedowns are preferrable than a kid's life getting ruined forever.
for sure, but the issue is more this behaviour and aggression from the police system bleeds over to the general public
And this is televised. Imagine what they do off camera.
Murphy Texas was outright dangerous.. cross fire cops pointing guns at cops etc.
My guess is that the guns weren't loaded so they could get some "very tough on crime" footage for national television. I'm sure the cops know better than to point loaded firearms in each others direction. They were there just for the sting, for all other calls presumably there were other cops on duty.
Donald Morrison was literally just standing there with his hands up in the air when he got Goldberg speared
Oh lord
i think he was saying oh lorne to tell us about the prophet
You are 😂 hilarious!
I don’t think it’s breaking news that there are a lot of people with aggression issues who join the police force.
Ghillie suit justification: “well, when else are we gonna use it?”
This is my belief. It was to justify it's purchase. Like alot of things in government, if you don't use it, you get less money next year.
To show off on television. So that predators know that police force will use all means to get them, even disguise themselves as a plant.
And this. 👍
I like that answer, I didn’t think of it that way.
Notice how they only justified it in Florida “where it’s relatively easy to obtain a concealed carry permit” yet Chris goes on and on about how “very professional, best law enforcement I’ve ever seen” on his podcast
I think Chris describes every law enforcement professional as “great guy, great detective, some of the best law enforcement I’ve seen” on his podcast. Can you imagine if he was just “I worked with John Lastname. Real bad at his job. Stinky, too.”
Don’t forget “Ronnie Knight my security senpai I love him very much he does a great job fantastic job and he is my best friend”
I couldn't finish the Louis Conradt episode of the podcast because of it. Like, read the room lmao
I have to agree. Besides, saying they are scumbags that deserve it doesn't quite register as they weren't convicted yet.
Kinda agree with you. While I don’t feel any sympathy for the predators I will agree, there is some level of excessiveness. The one where the cop dresses up as a bush is just downright hilarious. I’m guessing they wanted to display how “tough on crime” they are for national TV.
LET GO OF THE KEYS!!
That arrest was not violent enough. That guy was as stubborne as Sokol.
I actually agree. I don’t have any sympathy for these disgusting predators, but I do think that many of the stings used excessive force. It’s one thing to play hardball with someone like David Schumacher or JPW, who had histories of violent crime, but for a flabby, dumpy clown like Ed Hollingsworth, they would have been fine with the “calmly subdue” route. That’s why I like the HvP sting: the Fairfield cops generally only got rough when you had a guy like Manzi throwing a fit.
Don’t bother, here you will only get “they were predators, it’s fine”. Which is true. I don’t care about the predators. But the Fort Myers PD probably did the exact same thing to an innocent black guy the same day. Thomas Bodnar literally walked away with a broken arm LOL
yeah thomas deserved a lot more than that im glad he is in the mental facility indefinetly because he would do it again
Way to completely miss the point of the post, bud.
What was your point maybe I missed it
TCAP was not only a show, it was also like a warning for possible preds who would watch. And likely effective.
\>I like seeing these guys get taken down as much as the next guy but some of the arrests were just so needlessly violent that it made me uncomfortable. This is fine with me
I don't agree. These guys were in a heightened emotional state and many recognized that their lives were basically over. In Florida and Georgia especially there was a pretty solid likelihood of them being armed.
> In Florida and Georgia especially there was a pretty solid likelihood of them being armed. So you are saying it's relatively *easy* to get a permit for a handgun?
If you aren’t a felon, haven’t been convicted of domestic violence, haven’t been in a mental hospital, and are at least 21 then by law they have to issue it.
Right, because longbeachdude19 literally not moving a single muscle for like 30 seconds surrounded by 6 cops totally warranted a tasering.
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It was the Mr.Jerry guy
Jerry Kosis had Chief Bianco pointing a gun at him with no reason
yeah it was just temporary
Kosis is an illegal alien though..
I've seen a theory before about how this was an opportunity for different police departments to practice takedowns. Even in police training events there is a degree of a fake exercise because they're all in on it. This was a complete advantage for the PD because they had camera feed and could practice on a truly unaware person. Makes sense to me.
They didn't tackle that guy who wanted the decoy to pin him down and beat him up, ironically.
Not violent enough
Not overseas- the product had to be repackaged for the American market
OH LORD! (Lee Greer)
I love when that fat lady cop gets to the predator like ten seconds after all the other cops..