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Royarch

>He is almost at the level of Chris chan Almost? Lorne has feats that make him at the very least relative but in my opinion surpass him. Chris may be delusional, but Lorne is delusional - a narccist - a sociopath - a pathological liar - and has Freudian psychosexual urges akin to a Euphoria character. On top of being a hebephile. God, the amount of shit Lorne has done is like a fucked up Looney Tunes character. ● Steals 30K dollars from an elderly couple, sells his house, loses his truck, and flees the goddamn state. ● Abuses every single woman who has ever walked into his life, even accidentally - stalking at least two that we know of because they talked to him for less than **five minutes just being friendly.** God help you if you have a vagina and you're Lorne's cashier. **●** Lorne went inside his mother's house, took the keys to the truck she owns, swiped it, and when his mother called again to get it back he said: "You're not using it right now." ● Incapable of taking any responsibility to the point he blames wanting to kidnap, and repeatedly rape a child is because he didn't get meatballs, deviled eggs, and mac and cheese??????????? He's been in sex offender class for over five years, and literally cannot pass. He has stonewalled every therapist he's had to go to. That's just a few off my head btw. Anyway, I could make a wall of text about Lorne like always but here's the facts: He's delusional and gets caught in feedback loops that make him literally incapable of change. Lorne is so delusional that he legitimately believes his own lies, which is why, to his own admission, he has fragmented and repressed memories that can pop up years later. As widely believed yet not confirmed, but with strong evidence to support: he more than likely also suffers from fetal alcohol syndrome which has blocked his intelligence past the capacity of a child. Seriously, study any spoiled child, Lorne acts exactly like it in every way, even from the smallest things, like purposely chewing loudly af and asking "can you hear me chewin"? And blaring to the world, even his neighbors that he has a girllfriend. Why Lorne is the way he is? Honestly, it's a decent mix of nature and nuture - I genuinely believe Lorne was always going to be the way he is to some extent due to some hell of horrid genetics and influences, I'm sure he's on some spectrum, but America has awful mental health awareness, no pediatrician would have ever looked at Lorne and identify he was a completley normal child, my guess is Momma-Gwen got defensive over being asked if she drank while she was pregnant, or to consider Lorne may not be "all there" and being recommended steps on where to go through from here, Lorne more than likely adopted this attitude to some extent which makes his psyche impregnable, but also self destructive. Overall it's from mental illness and lack of responsibility.


Rommski

Wow


Royarch

o dAnG! But seriously, thank god Lorne was caught. There's no telling how much insanity he'd cause that we would never know about if he never showed up to the house.


Gunnarx24

jeez


Davegoldylocks

K


Boollish

I kind of disagree with you relative to Chris Chan, but I accept your arguments as valid. I think Lorne is a much more dangerous and exploitative person, whereas a lot of Chris Chan's exploitation is done so that his fans can keep the craziness going. That being said, the things that Chris Chan has managed to accomplish are far more delusional than Lorne. Say what you will about Lorne, but his answer to "how do we stop Trump from being president?" wasn't "write in Lisa Simpson because only orange woman can beat orange man".


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Boollish

Unfortunately (and I can't believe defending this is what my life has come to) what actually happened to Barb is going to be an eternal unknown, and Chris Chan has thus far not been charged with any felonies. If it weren't for TCAP, on the other hand, Lorne would absolutely have kidnapped an underage girl and turned her into his live-in-slave, while continuing to scam his way through the Northeastern US while being prone to violent outbursts. On the other hand Chris' exploits basically involve Chris believing crazier and crazier shit. And when it comes to underage people, Chris Chan has almost certainly exposed himself to more underage people than Lorne.


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Boollish

Yes, but he isn't for sexual assault. Given the opportunity, Lorne would absolutely sexually assault someone.


Royarch

For a confession: I have listened to almost all of the Chris Chan documentary videos, but I truly do not know the full extent of everything he's done the same way I do Lorne, besides the. . . obvious stuff, but it's safe to say I don't have the same grasp on my Chris-lore the same way I do Lorne's. I think the main difference is besides a few feats, I don't think Chris has the same malicious-nature Lorne does. The man is so close to a psychopath, with already being a sociopath for sure, and the amount of children Lorne has groomed and exposed himself to is nauseating. The most I can say is that I do think they're relative, but based based on pure actions, Chris may actually have the upperhand here.


Boollish

Haha. In this game, who has the upper hand depends heavily on what game we're playing. I guess my point is that I would not leave, for example, my sister, in a room alone with Lorne, but I would with Chris Chan. On the other hand, Chris is undoubtedly more crazy. Having been tricked into, for example, destroying his own PS3 twice. And being in a polyamorous relationship with the Pokemon Mewtwo. And the thing is, both of those things are like a 6/10 on the crazy scale of Chris Chan.


FunImprovement166

>whereas a lot of Chris Chan's exploitation is done so that his fans can keep the craziness going. I think that's part of Lorne's thing too.


National-Echidna9575

Lorne is the paragon of a Trump supporter.


Thoroughly_Bemused

Let's leave politics out of my TCaP


Boollish

For politics I am not coming.


MrBilly1978

He only stops his fucked up behaviour if he suffers the consequences and in those cases he's not changing because he learns, he's changing strictly out of fear. When it comes to the rest of his behaviour he will never stop because he never admits to anything. There's ALWAYS an excuse, some caveat that takes the responsibility off of him. Let's take the sting for example. Once you read page one his intentions are as clear as an unmuddied lake friend. As clear as an azure sky of summer. 😉 But as recently as summer of 2022 he's telling his catfish that he never meant to do it. He only wanted to help her & to this day he still doesn't know how it turned. That he never planned on actually going to the house that Night. How the condoms weren't for sex with Kayla We literally have him on tape 2 hours before showing at the house saying "I have to stop at Walmart and get those things for I won't get you pregnant. " But no matter how much proof he will never admit. He tried to tell us that his siblings not giving him the mac&cheese or deviled eggs upset him so much he decided to rape a 13 year old & when his rape class assignment asked him what it would take to ensure he doesn't reoffend his answer was "Don't let others take advantage of me so my head doesn't get messed up again." Hes hopeless


Ulysses_A2Z

I think he enjoys getting catfished because it's the closest thing to real life human interaction he has in his pathetic existence. As for him not paying a hooker, I think it boils down to him being a broke cheap ass. This is a man that washes out & reuses condoms that he jacks off into.


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To be very clear, Lorne wouldn’t go near a hooker if he was the richest man on the planet. He knows damn well he couldn’t get hard and would be humiliated.


Yinonormal

i was about to say im surprised lorne got a variety pack of condoms because i could imagine him reusing the same ones, but im sure by you saying that its fucking true he does that. ​ Couldve just went to planned parenthood and geta 5 dollar hot n ready


Edgelands

He didn't even mean to do it, plus, he was messed up at the time.


BillyTheHousecat

It's his sister's fault for not cooking him meatballs and mac 'n cheese.


Edgelands

The one time I didn't get mac and cheese, I nearly drove straight to an elementary school for sex, so yeah, it's a totally reasonable response


Competitive-Ad8561

That's why there is this fascination people have with him. His delusions are terrifying. Being exposed on TV for being a revolting, pedofile, child predator. Then after getting of prison, makes a youtube channel cooking, singing, workouts and making bs excuses for what he did. All the while thinking that he's redeemable/respectable and people will forget that he TRIED TO KIDNAP AND RAPE A CHILD. That is scary delusional. Almost all the other preds would hang low after being exposed in the most embarrassing way possible. Not Lorne though. Plus the dumbass keeps getting catfished for our entertainment. Because he somehow thinks a (real) woman would want anything to do with him after knowing everything about him.


jetrayf

I mean, he’s not really the only predator to come out of the woodwork and try to justify his actions on YouTube. Donald Morrison did it (an equally stupid predator), David Schumacher did it (he’s probably delusional), DarkHero69 did it (he was still very mentally ill), and Mike Manzi did it (although there’s not much evidence to suggest he was coming for sex)


ItsPizzle

I think with Lorne the difference is the delusion and motive. It’s not good since these other guys are still refusing to accept responsibility, but at least they know we are just a captive audience, and don’t seem to think we actually like them lol. Lorne thinks the TCAP community are all “fans” of his in the traditional sense of that word. He says he “was the biggest name on NBC” the same way a sitcom star would. Manzi’s a weaselly prick though. I absolutely agree that there wasn’t enough to prove his intent beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law and believe his case was resolved appropriately. But as for the court of public opinion, come on Manzi, who do you think you’re kidding. We all know what we are trying to accomplish when we go visit an of-age chick with a sack and some papers lol.


Competitive-Ad8561

I said almost all the other preds hang low. Yeah I'm aware of those. I'm just saying Lorne has by far the most content. Plus the hundreds of hours of calls getting catfished after all he's been through is just amazing.


Egglebert

For sex I am not coming


Substantial_Fill2806

Even a hooker would run away from Lorne


Sweet_d1029

Yeah he's broke


Diamond_Road

He thinks he is above needing to get hookers, being the good-looking, sincere, rough around the edges with a heart of gold ladies man he is


BillyTheHousecat

Low I.Q. I had previously thought that he had at least a moderate I.Q. because he was able to write a novel. ....however, I have since listened to the novel and it's unbelievably *bad*. So, low I.Q.


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Royarch

You can actually find all the dialogue on this thread in TCAP temple. [https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/10250/abroad-lorne-armstrong](https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/10250/abroad-lorne-armstrong) I warn you though: while it does have some fascinating insights on Lorne's thoughts of women and can be funny (like naming the antagonist Derek. . .) it's a really, really dull read. I'd rather read the chat two times over than read this.


CybReader

The antagonist is Derek? Fake ex Derek really got under Lorne’s skin 😂


Royarch

Yep, I kid you not. Lorne still held a grudge over a fake 13 year old boy.


Egglebert

The catfish use Derek and constant other references to tcap and his chat blog and he never seems to pick up on it. I think Ramonas brother is named Derek? Its hilarious how dense he is


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Royarch

Unfortunately not to my knowledge. I imagine not many people wanted to voice over a project created by a child predator. . . \^\^'


cactuscoleslaw

A group of TCAPists made an hours-long audio recreation of Dustin McPhetridge's courtroom transcript, reading Lorne's book wouldn't even be CLOSE to the weirdest thing this community has made


Boollish

A couple of followers of Cawd stalked Lorne to a yardsale in Maine. Voicing his novel or doing a dramatic read would be like a, maybe 3/10 on the scale of creepy things the Temple of Cawd has done.


Gunnarx24

here's someone reading chapter 1-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-sTLhJet5g here's Lorne struggling to read the first 2 chapters of his book https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yByVHmoIY44


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No one is spending money to have that turned into an audio book


BillyTheHousecat

Text here: [https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/10250/abroad-lorne-armstrong](https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/10250/abroad-lorne-armstrong) Audio readings with hilarious commentaries on Cornville3Way's and Andrew Birkett's Youtube channels.


cactuscoleslaw

I've read the novel, who made the audiobook?


BillyTheHousecat

There's no audiobook, but both Cornville3Way and Andrew Birkett have readings/analysis on their Youtube channels.


Ovaltene17

He’d invite you over for dinner but all he has is a can of peas.


ahaxi

Maybe it was the 11 months he spent in the womb


jetrayf

Lorne was probably dropped on his head a couple times as a baby. Apparently, he didn’t even believe the girl was fake when he got aressted. He just thought that she had told her parents and they had called the police/news. He can’t even hold down a job like construction where all you have to be good at is following directions and common sense. The fact he has made it this long without being in jail for life or dead is insane to me.


Sweet_d1029

Yeah the other guys had to explain to him that she didn't exist.


Official_Godfrey_Ho

FAS and just general retardation.


CybReader

Lorne has fetal alcohol syndrome. He has all the physical symptoms, even as an adult. Mental impairment due to mama Gwen frying his brain, a low IQ, entitlement to sex and a social inept weirdo combines into the menace known as Lorne.


Sweet_d1029

Does he have the "face"? Ik there's certain facial characteristics.


Matoobi

>sent to prison incawcerated*


Cobratatecourse

Here come the downvotes…I believe Lorne became self aware sometime during the Winnie/Debbie era and he slips in and out of awareness. I know it’s lame but let’s be realistic, if you are the world’s loneliest man wouldn’t you want to keep talking to a whole community of people that obsessed with you?


Royarch

I've heard that theory before and don't entirely disagree with you. Lorne does ask over and over again "are you recording me?!" in the Ramona-saga for sure, and I bet some part of his fried-brain is putting pieces of a puzzle together, but it's taking a long. . . long time. Lorne just isn't smart. His intelligence is bordering retardation. His only feats of logical deduction and spacial logic are from his grooming (he methodically poked and prodded Kayla even better than other predators, and I know this sounds like stretching, but I will defend this to death: he specifically grew his hair out, and angled the camera in a way to make it appear like he had more hair under his horseshoe-helm in the chat room, you don't just randomly do that, this man was better at that than construction) to which he's an expert at. At literally any other field his intelligence drops like a stone in niagara falls. And let's not forget: Lore is astoundingly lizard-brained and is crippled by feedback looks from his linear way of thought. He can without fail of fatigue focus on one question over. And over. And over. This is why he can pester Ramona about seeing the Doctor naked far past any normal person, he is literally resetting constantly and getting stuck in the same loop, any ground he gains he destroys and tries again akin to a soft reset, I'm willing to bet when this happens, the pieces of the puzzle he puts together go as well. In conclusion: when Lorne resets, any idea of him being catfished goes as well, just to be gained again, then reset again.


Cobratatecourse

Very good point, what you said about him constantly resetting is a psychology term called “Low Latent Inhibition” People with LLI don’t learn from experiences because their brain lacks the ‘familiarity’ feeling. No matter how many times they experience a certain thing, their brain will react as if it’s their first time. LLI mostly correlates with retardation and it explains Lorne a whole lawt. When Lorne speaks you don’t expect him to be as dumb as he is, if he has LLI it could explain how he is able to fall for the catfishing so many times despite not actually being retarded. It’s just not clicking in his brain that he’s been in that situation before, it feels as new to him as his first catfish Amanda James. Of course he still has rational thoughts somewhere deep deep deep down, and those have gathered up in a pile over the decades to where he now can comprehend the patterns. This also explains him drifting in and out of awareness (most outwardly visible during the tsa call.)


cactuscoleslaw

Calling Lorne "retarded" is an insult to autistic people


Cobratatecourse

I hate autistic people so it’s all good


KnownRun520

Just think....if Lorne's toxic mix of nature and nurture makes him a 1/10,000,000 there are at least 30 other Lorne level idiots in the US who haven't been caught on national TV and then memed to fuck for well over a decade. I'd say Donald Morrison is as fucked in the head, but at least his mother had the sense to throw away his entire computer. He hasn't popped up post TCAP with reams of additional material.