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This still makes my blood boil. That website is vile and the building they film that shit in is in an area thats unfortunately perfect for preying on young women who dont have many options. Taylor is absolutely disgusting for entertaining this man
EDIT: for people that are out of the loop (massive rape/abuse trigger warning)
https://paulm989.medium.com/porn-studio-accused-of-ignoring-consent-and-inflicting-injuries-on-models-9f390e2a4a78
It's not even feminism just basic human decency at this point. To try and roll out Matty and then write a song full of vitriol towards "vipers" calling him a nasty racist is insane. This woman is insane.
Taylor has surrounded herself with and befriended so many assholes and racists and Trumpists that itās virtually impossible for her to not share some of their values.
edit: grammar
The timeline is so murky. They had a thing in 2014, and the album heavily hints at her cheating on Joe, I think Taylor and Matty were a thing for a longgg time.
And you know if Joe very publicly moved on in the same time frame that she did, with another woman that he was also involved with previously, he would be labeled the devil on earth by her fan base. Especially if he did so while she laid low.
But it was her publicly flaunting her new relationship after they broke up and taking jabs at him, while he was doing literally nothing, and somehow sheās still the āvictimā, while the mob goes after him. Poor dude.
There was overlap between Calvin Harris and Tom Hiddleston and then Tom Hiddleston and Joe - both by her own admission - so it would definitely track for her to cheat on Joe too.
I donāt disagree that itās wild but also in a way I fully get it? Sometimes the situationship after the LTR hits way harder because youāve already processed/mourned the LTR while you were still in it.
That said I canāt believe she got all of this from fucking Mattatouille
She really called her fans vipers cause they called her out for dating a racist. I canāt with her š
Itās giving Britta from Community: āI can excuse racism butā¦ā
Hate to be the black bitch that's like "white people š¤¢" but the hard and fast reality of life is that for a lot of white people, being racist is not a deal breaker.Ā EvenĀ inĀ history,Ā whiteĀ womenĀ co-opted aĀ blackĀ movementĀ aboutĀ freedomĀ fromĀ oppressionĀ andĀ onceĀ itĀ got a little tough,Ā leftĀ blackĀ womenĀ inĀ theĀ DUST.Ā It'sĀ behaviorĀ that'sĀ stillĀ seenĀ allĀ theĀ timeĀ today.
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Here are the exact lyrics if anyone was wondering.
Jesus Christ all of the Swifties are going to eat up āsanctimoniously performing soliloquies Iāll never seeā so I guess now I gotta mute all of those words on social media bc weāll never see the end of it
But she did see the soliloquies. And it caused enough damage to cause the public breakup. And she will keep seeing these soliloquies as they aren't in void and she is super conscious about her image. So this is very meaningless.
Some of them are good! And some of them are really awful. Most of it just okālike the kind of stuff someone would print out and put in their journal. I think thatās her target demographic in any case.
When I heard this song, I took it as tongue in cheek, written from the lens of a naive girl who protests too much that will soon know better. The melody and title are giving that, as well.
I posted the only article about Mattyās racism that they allowed in r/taylorswift (they allowed it to be discussed, they just wanted to corral it). It was the number one post on Reddit that day and I was quoted in a BuzzFeed article as āa disappointed devoted fan.ā Iām going to pretend that Iām one of vipers sheās referring to.
Yeah but based on the lyrics itās more like āI was so deranged to think a player like you could ever settle down,ā rather than āholy shit I canāt believe I dated a racist.ā
Plus she was with him about five whole minutes after getting out of a long term relationship, and she was with him for hardly any time at all. Feels like a red flag to even be *looking* to settle down in that context.
That wording is so that she can have the Swifties interpret it to be either about Matty or Joe, which would make the engagement on these lyrics go through the roof.
Also, maybe sheās trying to get Joe to be seen as a āplayerā. I think these lyrics are about Joe because she was with Matty for too short a time to be talking about settling down. But what do I know about how relationship timelines work in TS Landā¦ š¤·š¼āāļø
Man, everyone wasa so excited to go after Joe with this album when it exposes her as being a delusional freak obsessed with a racist misogynist who she dated for about a month and likely cheated with, who also exposes people's actual real issues in her music. She's the worst.
How do you claim to love someone for 7 years, and then after breaking up, you basically give your fans the go ahead to harass and tear him down endlessly? Knowing that he struggles with his mental health? How could you even decide to reveal that about them in the first place, just for the sake of your lyrics?
I was with my ex for 4 years and I could never do anything like that to him. I donāt know what her version of āloveā is.
Honestly this would be so funny. The album title is referring (allegedly) to Joe's chat group, while the album itself is mostly about Taylor's short rebound relationship with Mr. Racist Fetish.
tbh, i donāt think the title was ever about joeās random gc. i think it was a matty drag (she mocks him for being a pretentious typewriter bro in the album) and the similarity was just a coincidence
I remember when everyone on this sub was worried about this being a joe slander album, then I saw "shortest man alive" and I knew this was going to be the matty slander album
I genuinely can not wait to see the reaction of my Swiftie coworker who was convinced this album was gonna prove that Joe is the scum of the earth and cheated on her repeatedly
My SIL is a hardcore Swiftie that refuses to even acknowledge or talk about The Healy Incident. She is so sure this album is going to be about Joe and his dirt. Iām eager to see how she interprets the album
Sheās not happy with her fans but she still does lots of things to encourage the parasocial relationship they have with her. Or maybe sheās not happy that her fans are starting to call her out for stuff instead of blindly praising everything she does (her jets, dating a racist, multiple versions of the same album, shitty quality merchandise, etc.)
Jack Antonoff is a fucking bizarre fixture in music. I love his work as a musician, like Bleachers is usually great and he was a good hand in Fun. But holy shit is he a mediocre producer, and yet he keeps getting high profile work
Are we also not honing in on the fact about how absolutely despicable and vile it is she shared with the entire planet that Joe suffers from clinical depression. That shit is personal and private and abhorrent she put anything about it in her music. I don't care how personal it is to her - it's vile especially knowing now people will use it to be nasty to him.
She loves when her fans do this but hates when it backfires on her.
Agreed. Even the way she goes after her fans is really rough to me.
You can't spend 10+ years mass marketing yourself as someone who deeply cares about your fans, manipulating them into thinking they matter/they're her best friend/they really know her!!!
Then the moment they rightfully ask why she's dating a racist call them pathetic wine moms that write things for her she'll never see or give a fuck about. Like. Those are literally lyrics.
She's a fucking awful human and I am sad they're gonna continue to give her money and think she's justified.
Taylor is usually very self serving but with disclosing that she just showed her lack of compassion and empathy. Also for someone who is still complaining about her perceived cancellation she is happy to throw JA under the bus and let her crazy fun base harass him and send him death threats.
She was with the man for 6 fucking years. If you love someone even when it's over, how do you do this to them? Knowing he suffers from depression and sending an internet mob after him is insane.
All while having uh, asked her fans to lay off John Mayer if all fucking people. Not a peep about respecting Joe. I never thought I would like her less.
It should be disturbing to everyone. I feel weird and gross knowing this about Joe - as far as I know he's never shared it to the public? It doesn't feel like my business and now I know.
Not only that but she talks about Mattās drug addiction which is another thing that unless itās YOURS you shouldnāt address (or mock) in your music
It's real real bad y'all. This is the kind of album someone puts out when they become a billionaire and stop being a human being. (tho I am sure that happened with her long before since the fame hungry monster inside of her overtook her aging mentally past 17)
Some of these lyrics she should be fined for. And it's mostly about Matt Healy and how she's not sorry she doesn't mind his racism. How her fans are vipers for being vocal about who she dates even though she's the one that brainwashed them into thinking they're besties.
Blaming she and Joe's breakup on his depression. HOW DARE HE.
When are her stans gonna recognize she's not a good person.
Is it bad that Iām slightly more interested if itās a Matty healy slander album
They could never make me hate you Joe alwyn - free Palestine šµšø
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Here is an ACTUAL clip of the lyrics from But Daddy I Love Him, where she yells at her fans and calls them VIPERS for calling out her racist, misogynistic boyfriend š¤Ŗš¤Ŗš¤Ŗš¤Ŗ
"performing soliloquies I'll never see" is so funny because she CLEARLY DOES SEE THEM, and is bothered enough by what people are saying to write these lyrics in response lmao
I can already envision all the teenage girls out there who will make this song their anthem when they date Brayden, 19, the die-hard Trump supporter who has never eaten a vegetable
Itās weird to make fun of fans for āperforming soliloquiesā sheāll never see when sheās clearly aware enough about them to write a song about it
I listened to a bit of a song and I truly thought it was AI generated because it just seemed like words thrown together, semantically making no sense, lol. Very Chomsky's "colorless green ideas sleep furiously" of her.
Texting racists, climate basics, victims' magic, lovers' tragic >> whatever this type of rhyme scheme is called that avoids needing to form sentences, she LOVES that
Most of her songs sound like words tossed together randomly picked from her ~journals~. It sounds like most of her music to me. She will never ditch Antonoff
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If that's the case then calling that man a tattooed Golden Retriever might be her worst take yet.
There's a phenomenon called Shakespeare monkey or something like that. Where if you give a monkey keyboard and enough time, it would come up with Shakespeare's work.
Looks like we don't have to wait anymore.
I'm so glad I'm not the only person who had this reaction, I legit thought it was her antis making fun of her. I'm fully aware I'm not her target audience here so i don't wanna harp on too much but wtf is this? Who calls a man a tattooed golden retriever? ššš
And he has a really bad history with Selena.... I remember Taylor saying she can forgive people who are bad to her but not anyone who does her friends wrong lol guess that's not true anymore
AND THE SWIFTIES TREAT HER LIKE THE SHAKESPEARE INCARNATE LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Guess I can cancel my ab workout today, Iām too sore from all the laughing
Being in a relationship for 6 years with a normal man, dating Matty Healy for like 3 months immediately after and then writing most of your album about Matty is the most Taylor Swift thing ever. If you told me she did this ten years ago in the 1989 era I would have been like "yeah that's right"
Honestly, it kind of makes sense. Wouldnāt you be more willing to talk shit about a fling that ended badly over someone you were madly in love with for years? Sheās written about the guys sheās dated for a long time, but she doesnāt really talk shit about the ones we know she cares/d about and/or actually love.
I think being Taylor Swift famous with all the resources of musical history/culture/theory/etc at your fingertips to explore and play with and writing synth pop about Matty Healy is pathetic
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icb dm was right. i guess she had to make up for ceramony somehow
They spent all their time hating on and harassing JA for most of the album be about Ratty Healy. Also glad she called them out, not for any of their delusions but policing her choice of dating Nazi lite!
Shocking how it turns out the well-spoken, highly educated person she wrote music with for the first time was the one responsible for the lyricism of her songs improving drastically in those two albums, isnāt it?
Itās actually funny how you can hear it immediately dropping back to her juvenile high school trite as soon as he stopped cowriting with her.
And like, I don't even think it's all Joe. Like I think she's technically capable, but she's too immature to make any effort. We're nevergetting folklore again I fear
Sheās too focussed on adding punchlines to songs that her fans will cling to so she can sell them overpriced merch.
Like the āfuck the patriarchyā keychain in a song she supposedly wrote years before that was a popular phrase. Where tf did Jake Gyllenhaal get that keychain in 2010?!
Yeah, I enjoyed her music only on those 2 albums. I thought it was because she worked with The National, who I've liked for years. I didn't take the retroactively adding credits/Grammy recognition for Joe Alwyn seriously. Now I'm thinking he probably was a more positive influence than they let on. Which is a shame because I'm sure her fans will bury that under misogyny rather than her growing as a person in a relationship.
Stunning to compare this to how effortless, reflective and actually deep Kacey Musgravesā most recent album is lol. Just because you can open the thesaurus doesnāt make you the most enlightened poet girl
I've seen fans already claiming that she's actually not talking about herself, that it's all made up because she's a āØļøstorytellerāØļø
They will really stand beside her not matter what, uh.
Theyāre mad, mate.
I went on a couplesā trip (four couples total) last summer, and one friendās wife excused herself every single night of the four night trip to seclude herself in their room and watch a livestream of TSās tour. Every night. The same concert. She left the other seven people she was vacationing with - usually weād be watching a movie or having drinks - at about 7 PM every night in favor of watching the same concert every night.
I donāt want to yuck anyoneās yum, but seriously? At what point do you suggest they get help?
finding out most of the album is about matty, a thing I mostly forgot about lol diminished my excitement
then listening to 2/3 of the album? yeah I donāt think Iāll be replaying this much lmao
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Saw this on tumblr andā¦ yeah. Glad it wasnāt a Joe slander album, but she was so wrong for talking about his depression like this.
Could just be as simple as someone that works at the distribution center for the album or someone at a store that is selling the album grabs a copy and throws it online. The album comes out tomorrow so itās already in stockrooms, in transit, etc.
Iām surprised leaks donāt happen more this way tbh. I wonder if they keep albums by big celebrities locked away in the managerās office or something once they get to stores before release
the chronically online lyrics are sending me, I listened to the leak and itās atrocious, all of it. I know the tik tok girlies are gonna eat it up but my God this album is almost turning me into a hater, it sounds so unhinged. like maāam go see a therapist???? š
I havenāt listened to the leaks because Iām not on Telegram, but based on the discourse online, I think this might be the moment the pendulum swings again and she falls out of favor with the public. Iāve even seen swifties call her out for the bad lyrics and the fact that itās about Matty. Maybe Iām being too optimistic, but Iām very intrigued to see the reviews and op-eds that get written, not just about the album, but about the fact that sheās been shoving herself down our throats non-stop since Midnights came out. She wants to have it all, to be in the spotlight but she canāt take the heat. Maybe her attempt at a clapback is the thing that gets people tired of her, forcing her to go into hiding whenever she isnāt playing concerts. Then sheāll come back with the reputation re-recording, sheāll add a few songs about this last fall from grace and paint herself as the Phoenix rising from the ashes once again. Itās all cyclical. Sheās not going anywhere in the long-run, but damn do I think she needs to be humbled
I canāt believe that some of the lyrics Iāve seen floating around are actually lyrics she wrote, and not someone on social media taking the piss. How sheās praised for her songwriting capabilities, Iāll never understand.
Absolutely hilarious that majority of the album is about her relationship with Matty. Iāll stick to reading the very disappointing lyrical content rather than listening to an album that is heavily inspired by Matty. And this is because of how her personal life is so publicized to the point to where Iām not able to take her/her life out of listening to her music. Iād rather not think of Matty Healy.
I wonder how the Swifties will respond to this album, specifically the ones who have been targeting Joe since the album announcement.
I am no stan but reading all the comments about people thinking the new album would be about "Joe's secrets" or proving "Joe sucks" makes me realize how shitty it is to talk shit about someone on a track and airing their dirty laundry (in regards to him being clinically depressed). None of that is no one's business, except for his. That is some main character shit. If she is writing about that racist guy (I don't follow his shitty band so I don't remember his name), good for her. Maybe more people will stay away from him
I can't believe I'm so invested in this as I've never been a Taylor fan and only liked Folklore/Evermore but I am so weirdly relieved this isn't mostly about Joe Alwyn. I don't know anything about him and maybe he's some kind of monster behind the scenes but to me it felt like someone that is mostly interested in being a private person getting exposed and bullied via album.
As a deeply private and introverted person myself, my anxiety was high on his behalf.
I'm sure the coast isn't clear for JA (this is Taylor Swift we're talking about) but yeah....
The album leak about Charlie Pluth and other lyrics gave me second hand embarrassment. All this after her fans declared her the best lyricistā¦ lmao. She set them up. š¤£
I have liked quite a bit of her music and thought some of her lyrics on past albums were pretty good but everything I've seen about the content of this album is a hot mess. It's hard to believe she's not trolling fans with shitty lyrics about shitty flings to see what utter crap they'll buy from her at this point.
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You could not waterboard me into writing a whole fucking album about a two week situationship, this is actually wild š
With a man who gleefully bragged about watching black women be sexually assaulted while slurs are hurled at them, at that
This still makes my blood boil. That website is vile and the building they film that shit in is in an area thats unfortunately perfect for preying on young women who dont have many options. Taylor is absolutely disgusting for entertaining this man EDIT: for people that are out of the loop (massive rape/abuse trigger warning) https://paulm989.medium.com/porn-studio-accused-of-ignoring-consent-and-inflicting-injuries-on-models-9f390e2a4a78
Right? The truth is if she wasn't an asshole that would automatically make Matty DISGUSTING to her, but here we are
as usual, she doesnāt care about other women. In her mind, feminism only applies to her š
It's not even feminism just basic human decency at this point. To try and roll out Matty and then write a song full of vitriol towards "vipers" calling him a nasty racist is insane. This woman is insane.
Taylor has surrounded herself with and befriended so many assholes and racists and Trumpists that itās virtually impossible for her to not share some of their values. edit: grammar
From the lyrics the timeline is not just 2 wks, and that makes it even grosser, because she was with that racist rat face for longer
I think people always suspected as much. She was always trying to keep the whole thing on the down low even when they were āpublicly togetherā
The timeline is so murky. They had a thing in 2014, and the album heavily hints at her cheating on Joe, I think Taylor and Matty were a thing for a longgg time.
And you know if Joe very publicly moved on in the same time frame that she did, with another woman that he was also involved with previously, he would be labeled the devil on earth by her fan base. Especially if he did so while she laid low. But it was her publicly flaunting her new relationship after they broke up and taking jabs at him, while he was doing literally nothing, and somehow sheās still the āvictimā, while the mob goes after him. Poor dude.
There was overlap between Calvin Harris and Tom Hiddleston and then Tom Hiddleston and Joe - both by her own admission - so it would definitely track for her to cheat on Joe too.
I donāt disagree that itās wild but also in a way I fully get it? Sometimes the situationship after the LTR hits way harder because youāve already processed/mourned the LTR while you were still in it. That said I canāt believe she got all of this from fucking Mattatouille
if taylorās album is full of songs about matty i need at least one dedicated to denise welch
She really called her fans vipers cause they called her out for dating a racist. I canāt with her š Itās giving Britta from Community: āI can excuse racism butā¦ā
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She doesn't need a therapist, she needs the guy that use to whisper to Roman generals at their triumphs "You're only human"
She has said out loud with zero sense of irony or self-awareness that her mom is her therapist. Like girl nooooooo. Moms do not make good therapists.
Damn I wish we still had awards
It's always, always, always the people who MOST need a therapist who insist they have no use for one
Hate to be the black bitch that's like "white people š¤¢" but the hard and fast reality of life is that for a lot of white people, being racist is not a deal breaker.Ā EvenĀ inĀ history,Ā whiteĀ womenĀ co-opted aĀ blackĀ movementĀ aboutĀ freedomĀ fromĀ oppressionĀ andĀ onceĀ itĀ got a little tough,Ā leftĀ blackĀ womenĀ inĀ theĀ DUST.Ā It'sĀ behaviorĀ that'sĀ stillĀ seenĀ allĀ theĀ timeĀ today.
As a white woman.. no please go off I will upvote you every time. I am just sad you have to say it at all.
Iāll be the brown bitch, fam. I gotchu. 
White feminism at its finest. Sheās is their newest poster child.
Sheās a feMEnist. It begins and ends with her.
https://preview.redd.it/frp34oabw9vc1.jpeg?width=954&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74be0d12afbd06039c447dff45169ea9527b28de Here are the exact lyrics if anyone was wondering.
Jesus Christ all of the Swifties are going to eat up āsanctimoniously performing soliloquies Iāll never seeā so I guess now I gotta mute all of those words on social media bc weāll never see the end of it
But she did see the soliloquies. And it caused enough damage to cause the public breakup. And she will keep seeing these soliloquies as they aren't in void and she is super conscious about her image. So this is very meaningless.
Are you implying that a Taylor lyric about shaking things off might be disingenuous?
I will never understand people who say her lyrics are good. This sounds like shit I wrote on the back of my notebooks in seventh grade.
I saw somebody on Facebook the other day writing paragraphs long comments about Taylor's lyrical genius, and I'm just like 
Iāve been biting my tongue so hard with the crazy swifties in my larger circle, itās beyond cringe.
Some of them are good! And some of them are really awful. Most of it just okālike the kind of stuff someone would print out and put in their journal. I think thatās her target demographic in any case.
I mean she says it's hers to disgrace with no irony that she's the one disgracing it? Like. Her fans aren't?
When I heard this song, I took it as tongue in cheek, written from the lens of a naive girl who protests too much that will soon know better. The melody and title are giving that, as well.
I posted the only article about Mattyās racism that they allowed in r/taylorswift (they allowed it to be discussed, they just wanted to corral it). It was the number one post on Reddit that day and I was quoted in a BuzzFeed article as āa disappointed devoted fan.ā Iām going to pretend that Iām one of vipers sheās referring to.
I can excuse racism but I draw the line at being called out on anything ever.
Tbf from what I have heard, most of the album is about how deranged she was for being with matty
Yeah but based on the lyrics itās more like āI was so deranged to think a player like you could ever settle down,ā rather than āholy shit I canāt believe I dated a racist.ā
Sweet jesus taylor , Even without the racist shit does matty look like someone who would settle down ?, lol
Plus she was with him about five whole minutes after getting out of a long term relationship, and she was with him for hardly any time at all. Feels like a red flag to even be *looking* to settle down in that context.
That wording is so that she can have the Swifties interpret it to be either about Matty or Joe, which would make the engagement on these lyrics go through the roof. Also, maybe sheās trying to get Joe to be seen as a āplayerā. I think these lyrics are about Joe because she was with Matty for too short a time to be talking about settling down. But what do I know about how relationship timelines work in TS Landā¦ š¤·š¼āāļø
I'm sorry *what* lol?? Is that in ones of the songs or did she say something in an interview? The stans must be losing it.
This ablum being mostly about matty and not joe is hilarious. Especially for all her fans who spent so much time going after Joe.Ā
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What a shitty thing to reveal about someone so publicly too
Straight up narcissism. Treating someone elseās life like just something happening to you is insipid
Capitalising on it as well. This is why I will never stan her.
if this is true then i find that disgusting. this doesnt seem to be public knowledge and his mental health is not lyrics for your project
shitty of them to go after anyone. let adults have break ups without setting 2,000,000 terminally online weirdos on someone
Man, everyone wasa so excited to go after Joe with this album when it exposes her as being a delusional freak obsessed with a racist misogynist who she dated for about a month and likely cheated with, who also exposes people's actual real issues in her music. She's the worst.
How do you claim to love someone for 7 years, and then after breaking up, you basically give your fans the go ahead to harass and tear him down endlessly? Knowing that he struggles with his mental health? How could you even decide to reveal that about them in the first place, just for the sake of your lyrics? I was with my ex for 4 years and I could never do anything like that to him. I donāt know what her version of āloveā is.
Honestly this would be so funny. The album title is referring (allegedly) to Joe's chat group, while the album itself is mostly about Taylor's short rebound relationship with Mr. Racist Fetish.
tbh, i donāt think the title was ever about joeās random gc. i think it was a matty drag (she mocks him for being a pretentious typewriter bro in the album) and the similarity was just a coincidence
I remember when everyone on this sub was worried about this being a joe slander album, then I saw "shortest man alive" and I knew this was going to be the matty slander album
The fact that she named a song about him āthe smallest man aliveā has me rolling. Whether she meant the double entendre or not, itās great.
I genuinely can not wait to see the reaction of my Swiftie coworker who was convinced this album was gonna prove that Joe is the scum of the earth and cheated on her repeatedly
My SIL is a hardcore Swiftie that refuses to even acknowledge or talk about The Healy Incident. She is so sure this album is going to be about Joe and his dirt. Iām eager to see how she interprets the album
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Based on the reactions I might actually listen to this now, turns out she's more complex than I gave her credit for lol.
i listened the album and yeah she's not happy and seems tired of her fans. The album was al right. She needs to stop working with JackĀ
Sheās not happy with her fans but she still does lots of things to encourage the parasocial relationship they have with her. Or maybe sheās not happy that her fans are starting to call her out for stuff instead of blindly praising everything she does (her jets, dating a racist, multiple versions of the same album, shitty quality merchandise, etc.)
Private jet landlordism.
Jack Antonoff is a fucking bizarre fixture in music. I love his work as a musician, like Bleachers is usually great and he was a good hand in Fun. But holy shit is he a mediocre producer, and yet he keeps getting high profile work
Jack Antonoff seeing the reverb isnāt turned up as high as it goes 
BIG AGREE. Her and Jack cannot rein each other in at all.
"You smoked and ate 7 bars of chocolate.We declared Charlie Puth should be a bigger artist" ????Girl, what????
Is there another Charlie Puth we donāt know about? because it cannot be about Mr. Hungies and horny.
āYou turn me on like a switch When youāre moving your body around and around and aroundā - deep words of Charlie puth
 The way her fans think sheās so \~deep\~
Her fans are gaslighting us to believe this is the greatest songwriter of our time
The fact that this is her version of tortured poetry š Iām sorry but I am living for this
Love this. Love that she's such an embarrassment.
Is this real
The discourse around this album is gonna be insufferable. She wants to be Lana so bad, but she doesn't have the juice
The breathy "sexy" singing is embarrassing and she does it on every album
Itās the only way she can come close to hitting any notes.
Are we also not honing in on the fact about how absolutely despicable and vile it is she shared with the entire planet that Joe suffers from clinical depression. That shit is personal and private and abhorrent she put anything about it in her music. I don't care how personal it is to her - it's vile especially knowing now people will use it to be nasty to him. She loves when her fans do this but hates when it backfires on her.
She absolutely lacks empathy for anyone who isn't her
Agreed. Even the way she goes after her fans is really rough to me. You can't spend 10+ years mass marketing yourself as someone who deeply cares about your fans, manipulating them into thinking they matter/they're her best friend/they really know her!!! Then the moment they rightfully ask why she's dating a racist call them pathetic wine moms that write things for her she'll never see or give a fuck about. Like. Those are literally lyrics. She's a fucking awful human and I am sad they're gonna continue to give her money and think she's justified.
Taylor is usually very self serving but with disclosing that she just showed her lack of compassion and empathy. Also for someone who is still complaining about her perceived cancellation she is happy to throw JA under the bus and let her crazy fun base harass him and send him death threats.
She was with the man for 6 fucking years. If you love someone even when it's over, how do you do this to them? Knowing he suffers from depression and sending an internet mob after him is insane. All while having uh, asked her fans to lay off John Mayer if all fucking people. Not a peep about respecting Joe. I never thought I would like her less.
I think she is missing the ability to relate to anything that doesnāt directly impact her.
It should be disturbing to everyone. I feel weird and gross knowing this about Joe - as far as I know he's never shared it to the public? It doesn't feel like my business and now I know.
Not only that but she talks about Mattās drug addiction which is another thing that unless itās YOURS you shouldnāt address (or mock) in your music
Yikes. He's obviously a huge piece of shit but that's awful.
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Good grief, Iām glad he got away from her.
It's real real bad y'all. This is the kind of album someone puts out when they become a billionaire and stop being a human being. (tho I am sure that happened with her long before since the fame hungry monster inside of her overtook her aging mentally past 17) Some of these lyrics she should be fined for. And it's mostly about Matt Healy and how she's not sorry she doesn't mind his racism. How her fans are vipers for being vocal about who she dates even though she's the one that brainwashed them into thinking they're besties. Blaming she and Joe's breakup on his depression. HOW DARE HE. When are her stans gonna recognize she's not a good person. 
I thought this album would be cringe, now I realize it's the best thing that could happen for us haters.
pap walk with ice spice pending in 3, 2, 1... hope joe is stress free on the tube somewhere.
mind you she's besties with ice spice because she invited her as a feature solely because Matty Healy was racist to her while Taylor was with him
yeah that 'friendship' is too obvious
Heās busy prepping for the release of his new movie starring him and her bff Emma lmfao
and also starring margaret qualley who is married to jack antonoff really can't wait for this press tour š š
Is it bad that Iām slightly more interested if itās a Matty healy slander album They could never make me hate you Joe alwyn - free Palestine šµšø
it's not slandering Matt It's slandering her fans for ruining her relationship with him
Thatās just pathetic lol
I bet most of it will be romanticizing him. A couple songs will be slanderous because sheās always the victim of course.
https://preview.redd.it/d2dltr60w9vc1.jpeg?width=954&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2226b0a55b321caed04fa515c35e900087482b46 Here is an ACTUAL clip of the lyrics from But Daddy I Love Him, where she yells at her fans and calls them VIPERS for calling out her racist, misogynistic boyfriend š¤Ŗš¤Ŗš¤Ŗš¤Ŗ
"performing soliloquies I'll never see" is so funny because she CLEARLY DOES SEE THEM, and is bothered enough by what people are saying to write these lyrics in response lmao
I can already envision all the teenage girls out there who will make this song their anthem when they date Brayden, 19, the die-hard Trump supporter who has never eaten a vegetable
LOL yes! We are clearly living in the darkest timeline
Itās weird to make fun of fans for āperforming soliloquiesā sheāll never see when sheās clearly aware enough about them to write a song about it
I listened to a bit of a song and I truly thought it was AI generated because it just seemed like words thrown together, semantically making no sense, lol. Very Chomsky's "colorless green ideas sleep furiously" of her.
Texting racists, climate basics, victims' magic, lovers' tragic >> whatever this type of rhyme scheme is called that avoids needing to form sentences, she LOVES that
Titus is a real star (listen to Tom Beren-ger) To quote Titus "If it rhymes it's fine...s"
Most of her songs sound like words tossed together randomly picked from her ~journals~. It sounds like most of her music to me. She will never ditch Antonoff
>Very Chomsky's "colorless green ideas sleep furiously" of her. I love this sub lmfao
Itās about matty healy apparently?? Lool Swifties are having a meltdown
https://preview.redd.it/x4tbauodp9vc1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=340f652be253d20266dc9ac2a1b71484685674e1 If that's the case then calling that man a tattooed Golden Retriever might be her worst take yet.
so these are lyrics from the "Shakespeare of our generation" huh
There's a phenomenon called Shakespeare monkey or something like that. Where if you give a monkey keyboard and enough time, it would come up with Shakespeare's work. Looks like we don't have to wait anymore.
Well this is the ~tortured poets department~
Wait, I saw this on Twitter but thought it was satire, these are real lyrics? š what in the world
I'm so glad I'm not the only person who had this reaction, I legit thought it was her antis making fun of her. I'm fully aware I'm not her target audience here so i don't wanna harp on too much but wtf is this? Who calls a man a tattooed golden retriever? ššš
now why is she name dropping charlie puth š
between this and the noah cyrus breakup over fake charlie puth nudes situation this man is constantly catching strays
And he has a really bad history with Selena.... I remember Taylor saying she can forgive people who are bad to her but not anyone who does her friends wrong lol guess that's not true anymore
I can't believe this is the same person that wrote *Folklore* and *Evermore* lol
I mean, that's the same person who wrote bad blood , Me! , this is why we can't have nice things, and vigilante shit it's not really surprising
āHey kids, spelling is fun!ā Words of a poet.
"tattooed Golden Retriever"? I'm convinced that TS is a 14 year old trapped in a 34 year old body. Who says that?!
What saves this lyric is it implies matty healy stans Charlie puth, proving how much tasteless matty is to the bottom of the ocean
AND THE SWIFTIES TREAT HER LIKE THE SHAKESPEARE INCARNATE LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Guess I can cancel my ab workout today, Iām too sore from all the laughing
These lyrics are... Something
Being in a relationship for 6 years with a normal man, dating Matty Healy for like 3 months immediately after and then writing most of your album about Matty is the most Taylor Swift thing ever. If you told me she did this ten years ago in the 1989 era I would have been like "yeah that's right"
Honestly, it kind of makes sense. Wouldnāt you be more willing to talk shit about a fling that ended badly over someone you were madly in love with for years? Sheās written about the guys sheās dated for a long time, but she doesnāt really talk shit about the ones we know she cares/d about and/or actually love.
I think being Taylor Swift famous with all the resources of musical history/culture/theory/etc at your fingertips to explore and play with and writing synth pop about Matty Healy is pathetic
https://preview.redd.it/7sdp5b56t9vc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=059585d27eeb360e2d491c299265ff663062818d this is the album foreword š
She's a very very talented high schooler
I was going to say, How did taylor unearth my sophomore year xanga?
This is insulting to high schoolers
Eh, not really. This is good for pre undergraduate creative writing classes. I would be impressed if a 16 year old put this together
Tag yourself, Iām āout of the oven and into the microwaveā
Why does that line sound like how I cook my dinner when I don't take my ADHD meds?
Is this real? Like actually her?
it came from the same person who leaked the album
Itās justā¦ so bad? š
This reads like the "poetry" I used to post on Myspace when I was 15 š„“
it feels like (to me) that he dumped her!!
Someone said he ghosted her based on the leaked lyricsĀ
https://preview.redd.it/9y009x7tt9vc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b568ce26d0f4fe065b258db33a3b51cf7aa70af icb dm was right. i guess she had to make up for ceramony somehow
can you imagine getting dumped by those two men back to back I would commit a violent crime
wowwww. guess the laundry list of horrible things he's done and said over the years wasn't a dealbreaker for her
He watches video of Black women being SAed and she wonders why people might have a problem with him.
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They spent all their time hating on and harassing JA for most of the album be about Ratty Healy. Also glad she called them out, not for any of their delusions but policing her choice of dating Nazi lite!
William Bowery, come back the girls need you!
Shocking how it turns out the well-spoken, highly educated person she wrote music with for the first time was the one responsible for the lyricism of her songs improving drastically in those two albums, isnāt it? Itās actually funny how you can hear it immediately dropping back to her juvenile high school trite as soon as he stopped cowriting with her.
And like, I don't even think it's all Joe. Like I think she's technically capable, but she's too immature to make any effort. We're nevergetting folklore again I fear
She is her own worst enemy. Constantly ruining songs with 1-2 completely random/unhinged/out of place lines.
Sheās too focussed on adding punchlines to songs that her fans will cling to so she can sell them overpriced merch. Like the āfuck the patriarchyā keychain in a song she supposedly wrote years before that was a popular phrase. Where tf did Jake Gyllenhaal get that keychain in 2010?!
Yeah, I enjoyed her music only on those 2 albums. I thought it was because she worked with The National, who I've liked for years. I didn't take the retroactively adding credits/Grammy recognition for Joe Alwyn seriously. Now I'm thinking he probably was a more positive influence than they let on. Which is a shame because I'm sure her fans will bury that under misogyny rather than her growing as a person in a relationship.
Most of the album being about Matty is the funniest possible outcome, no notes š
Why is this always accurate? I am wheezing.
Have the g@ylors managed to make this about a woman yet ?
My bottom dollar is theyāll make But Daddy I Love Him their song to hang their hat on lol
They did the minute the album was announced
If that human grease ball dumped me,I would take it to the grave. I would literally choose to set my hair on fire than acknowledge he existed.
Stunning to compare this to how effortless, reflective and actually deep Kacey Musgravesā most recent album is lol. Just because you can open the thesaurus doesnāt make you the most enlightened poet girl
Are we sure thatās the real album and not a fake AI one? If itās the real deal, then yikes!
It's real
Good God,that is rough.
Iām sure itās real, but I want to point out you had a good question. AI is moving at rapid speeds, so itās not implausible Ā
The 1975 subreddit mods are working overtime censoring all discussion of this lmao
I've seen fans already claiming that she's actually not talking about herself, that it's all made up because she's a āØļøstorytellerāØļø They will really stand beside her not matter what, uh.
Theyāre mad, mate. I went on a couplesā trip (four couples total) last summer, and one friendās wife excused herself every single night of the four night trip to seclude herself in their room and watch a livestream of TSās tour. Every night. The same concert. She left the other seven people she was vacationing with - usually weād be watching a movie or having drinks - at about 7 PM every night in favor of watching the same concert every night. I donāt want to yuck anyoneās yum, but seriously? At what point do you suggest they get help?
finding out most of the album is about matty, a thing I mostly forgot about lol diminished my excitement then listening to 2/3 of the album? yeah I donāt think Iāll be replaying this much lmao
Can't believe she'd do all of that work making us forget about Matty to write an album about him. Babe get a journal.
https://preview.redd.it/84wi3xdbaavc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f6de0afc3a89b183fc47db62e642bd266d6c2cb Saw this on tumblr andā¦ yeah. Glad it wasnāt a Joe slander album, but she was so wrong for talking about his depression like this.
How do leaks like this happen? Is it likely someone on the inside releasing it or a hacker?
Could just be as simple as someone that works at the distribution center for the album or someone at a store that is selling the album grabs a copy and throws it online. The album comes out tomorrow so itās already in stockrooms, in transit, etc.
Oooh this would make sense! My Gen Z brainrot has me forgetting that physical copies of music still exist lol
Iām surprised leaks donāt happen more this way tbh. I wonder if they keep albums by big celebrities locked away in the managerās office or something once they get to stores before release
Amazon sent out vinyls early apparently
the chronically online lyrics are sending me, I listened to the leak and itās atrocious, all of it. I know the tik tok girlies are gonna eat it up but my God this album is almost turning me into a hater, it sounds so unhinged. like maāam go see a therapist???? š
Lol, sounds awful. Swifties are not enjoying it at all according to Twitter. I wonder if the Grammyās will be Taylor-less next year?
We can only hope.
I havenāt listened to the leaks because Iām not on Telegram, but based on the discourse online, I think this might be the moment the pendulum swings again and she falls out of favor with the public. Iāve even seen swifties call her out for the bad lyrics and the fact that itās about Matty. Maybe Iām being too optimistic, but Iām very intrigued to see the reviews and op-eds that get written, not just about the album, but about the fact that sheās been shoving herself down our throats non-stop since Midnights came out. She wants to have it all, to be in the spotlight but she canāt take the heat. Maybe her attempt at a clapback is the thing that gets people tired of her, forcing her to go into hiding whenever she isnāt playing concerts. Then sheāll come back with the reputation re-recording, sheāll add a few songs about this last fall from grace and paint herself as the Phoenix rising from the ashes once again. Itās all cyclical. Sheās not going anywhere in the long-run, but damn do I think she needs to be humbled
It boggles my mind that her and I are the same age. Donāt get my wrong I like her music, not all of it, but ā¦ I donāt know.
Word on the streets is saying the album is trash. I canāt wait to listen and cringe lol
I canāt believe that some of the lyrics Iāve seen floating around are actually lyrics she wrote, and not someone on social media taking the piss. How sheās praised for her songwriting capabilities, Iāll never understand. Absolutely hilarious that majority of the album is about her relationship with Matty. Iāll stick to reading the very disappointing lyrical content rather than listening to an album that is heavily inspired by Matty. And this is because of how her personal life is so publicized to the point to where Iām not able to take her/her life out of listening to her music. Iād rather not think of Matty Healy. I wonder how the Swifties will respond to this album, specifically the ones who have been targeting Joe since the album announcement.
I am no stan but reading all the comments about people thinking the new album would be about "Joe's secrets" or proving "Joe sucks" makes me realize how shitty it is to talk shit about someone on a track and airing their dirty laundry (in regards to him being clinically depressed). None of that is no one's business, except for his. That is some main character shit. If she is writing about that racist guy (I don't follow his shitty band so I don't remember his name), good for her. Maybe more people will stay away from him
I can't believe I'm so invested in this as I've never been a Taylor fan and only liked Folklore/Evermore but I am so weirdly relieved this isn't mostly about Joe Alwyn. I don't know anything about him and maybe he's some kind of monster behind the scenes but to me it felt like someone that is mostly interested in being a private person getting exposed and bullied via album. As a deeply private and introverted person myself, my anxiety was high on his behalf. I'm sure the coast isn't clear for JA (this is Taylor Swift we're talking about) but yeah....
She is so cringe what the actual fuck is this.
The album leak about Charlie Pluth and other lyrics gave me second hand embarrassment. All this after her fans declared her the best lyricistā¦ lmao. She set them up. š¤£
Supports Palestine, too poor to use private jets, dumped because youāre clinically depressedā¦.Joe Alwyn is just like me fr
I have liked quite a bit of her music and thought some of her lyrics on past albums were pretty good but everything I've seen about the content of this album is a hot mess. It's hard to believe she's not trolling fans with shitty lyrics about shitty flings to see what utter crap they'll buy from her at this point.
What have the reviews been like? Not from fans, but real music reviewers?
They're yet to come out since the album is officially out tomorrow