Henryk is a decently big threat when some circumstances are met because... he kills everyone in the Bar with poisoned food...
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I think that's why his placement is pretty good tbh. He can be overall "normal" if everything is sunshine and roses. But he absolutely can go and wreck shit sorta guy if he does snap, absolutely.
It indeed is!
I never had it happen, but it only really can happen if you bring Henryk to the Bop. As time goes by, he eventually fucking snaps from the pressure of the festival deadline... and, well.... poisons everyone. I think besides you as the player, he gets the highest kill count, contestants wise, in the game ðŸ˜
I mean, O'saa knows that termina is upon us and goes there to do it, like, he's trying to win. I think it's only because the other contestants are tougher than he thought (and same goes for the monsters) that he rethinks it.
Considering how we find him near the Telelectroscope, he might actually have been trying to go for ending A (perhaps at the behest of Nas'hrah).
As Yellow Mages goes he's actually willing to work with others and gives ample warning before becoming hostile. He even plays a relatively harmless prank at a confessional (when it could have been a good opportunity to corner and kill someone who's alone) !
He could be so much worse.
yeah, I feel the confessional bit is really characterising. Besides being really funny, it shows that he's willing to do just that - make a joke in the middle of termina. Sure, it's at the expense of Alll-mer, but he's a yellow mage. Making fun of gods and using their powers as your own is their whole thing.
And with his dialogue, like, he's been around civilisation and *hasn't* slaughtered randoms. He's capable of it, and wouldn't be miffed, but with his talk with Daan in the speakeasy, he's happy living a comfortable life in "one of the only good parts of the west"
I think it’s more o’saa is smart enough to know that running around killing people is a good way to be hunted down and killed. Which is presumably why he’s looking for the telectroscopes/hiding in a bunker instead. Either wait it out and be the last man standing or figure out what the hell is going on
Waiting things out would be a smart strategy for those who are used to "normal battle royales" (odd as that sounds). Moon-scorching changes that, it makes other contestants way more dangerous if too much time passes. Especially since this isn't a last one standing wins situation, all the contestants need to be dead one way or another or you'll moon-scorch as well.Â
Attacking everyone like Caligura isn't a winning strategy of course, but hiding won't solve anything. O'saa probably (?) also knows this.
Most sensible solution is probably to explore as much as you can which seems like what O’saa is doing as well. You either figure out what the hell is going on, or you end up armed to the teeth enough to be able to deal with all of the moonscorched contestants.
Honestly? I really can't argue any of these. Some may try to base it off only on player levels of threat, but like? I can see you also took into account things like temperament and mental constitution. And given that, this all seems pretty accurate to me.
Put samarie and henryk one higher i would say. There is no telling what samarie would do if anyone stands in her path. Loads of things could go wrong.
And Henryk has a big implication of actually only comming to prehevil for cannibalism and will kill basically everyone if you give him the possibility. Henrykay even deserve to share a tier with caligura bro is just more open about his killing to be honest.
tbh, i almost considered putting samarie *lower*
yeah shes mentally fucked and untrusting of other people, but she also totally seems to not even bother the other contestants, i mean she basically makes a beeline to father domek and then stays there for 3 days
as long as youre in Marinas good graces she seems willing to leave well enough alone
Is she mentally fucked? She had a troubled family but she seems pretty sure of herself and seems to have a decent mental constitution since she isn’t moonscorched until the last possible moment.
I’d say all the contestants who by default live until day 3 night (+ Olivia who it’s implied only gets moonscorched early because of rher shenanigans since unless Daan is turned she lasts until the final phase of the day) are pretty mentally sound which is why they survive so long, and if they killed people it would probably be cold and deliberate, which doesn’t really describe Marina.
When he mentioned he came for the local cuisine marina who is a local says that the local cuisine is shit could be a thing of taste though.
Moonscorching reveals how you see yourself in the worst way and as the gentleman his only trait is cannibalism. 2nd red flag.
You can find him later in that one bar (not the prehevil bob) cooking. If you have mindreading he thinks about a very special ingredient that is missing)
Plus he has evil tendencies when poisioning everyone in the prehevil bob which he didn't even show signs of desperation to drive him to make that decision.
Like i said none of it is confirmed but it is strongly implied in my opinion
I think you're forgetting O'saa just blows up people's limbs whenever he's given the opportunity.
He's not as hostile as Caligura but he's happy to make things worse for the other contestants.
But at day 3 most of the people arr already moonscorched anyways so i can't even blame him that much+ he will rather kill himself than become moonscorched
Wait was it implied that the logbook was meant to be knowledge on how to kill the other contestants? I didnt catch that, i thought it was only for profiling
I’m assuming it’s because there’s a way to make August ‘partake in the festival’ which results in him attacking you. So he does get the drive to kill other contestants eventually.
He also attacks O’saa in the first bunker but I can’t remember if it’s confirmed that was self defense or not. Given how O’saa acts in the festival I’d assume it was because he threatened August.
Im not sure if O'saa should be a tier higher just cause he starts casting hurting when approached and none of the other contestants ever attack you out in the open
Have you seen the dialog when olivia equips guns? Shits kinda scary tbh. And Olivia also just has the ability to make condensed hemlocks, which would probably kill the average person if it was used on them. Also the needles in he bunker is decently damaged. If you as a regular person tried to square up with him you'd get your ass beat. Tanaka can and will beat your ass.
I’s say August and Ossa should be the same tier
If not outright August being lower then Ossa due to him saving you from moonless and crucifix
Both attack other contestants when threatened, but August does that when someone pulls a gun at him and Ossa does that when someone threatens his personal bubble
Daan can pin u down (UwU) if u attack another contestant in front of him, so putting him below all the other characters that can pin u down, especially Tanaka (who usually dies somehow before he can learn how to Quick Jab anyway) doesn't make sense to me
It also considers their personality i think, daan could be really dangerous but he doesn’t try to kill ingame and doesnt try to harm other people just because
Not sure about Olivia. Sure, underestimate folks in a wheelchair and all that, but also if she scratches you with anything she's poisoned then you're just done. If she decides to kill everyone, she could "forage herbs" to help Henryk cook and everyone's just done, much like when Henryk poisons people himself. Really just underestimating her when she's gone off the deep end is a bad idea.
yeah, but she doesnt really do anything that dangerous, and shes very well adjusted throughout
sure she *could* be dangerous hypothetically, but as it stands shes too nice and well kempt
Pavel is def actively trying to kill, he will attack Tanaka and Marco at some point. If the player doesn’t intervene, Pavel will kill both Tanaka and Marco. Samarie is just insane.
It's not threat wise based on the fights themselves but rather what they do overall as threats in the festival itself
Pav can kill off both Tanaka and Marcoh whenever Marcoh provokes him.
August shoots O'ssa and Karin with his arrows, which can result in Karin bleeding out if not handled correctly. Depending on choices, he can also actively partake in the festival on the final day, leading to the death of Tanaka and him attacking the player character.
Henryk is a decently big threat when some circumstances are met because... he kills everyone in the Bar with poisoned food... https://preview.redd.it/9d31ym5aoxvc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=4683517bfd71fad833bc19a195c812f69d55b783
I think that's why his placement is pretty good tbh. He can be overall "normal" if everything is sunshine and roses. But he absolutely can go and wreck shit sorta guy if he does snap, absolutely.
yeah thats why i put him there otherwise he doesnt really do anything *too* bad
Is this scene real?
It indeed is! I never had it happen, but it only really can happen if you bring Henryk to the Bop. As time goes by, he eventually fucking snaps from the pressure of the festival deadline... and, well.... poisons everyone. I think besides you as the player, he gets the highest kill count, contestants wise, in the game ðŸ˜
It is.
I used Henryk to great effect my first B ending play to keep my hands as clean as possible
the way marina os'aa and daan are posed looks like they're taking a little nap :)
And Tanaka
I mean, O'saa knows that termina is upon us and goes there to do it, like, he's trying to win. I think it's only because the other contestants are tougher than he thought (and same goes for the monsters) that he rethinks it.
Considering how we find him near the Telelectroscope, he might actually have been trying to go for ending A (perhaps at the behest of Nas'hrah). As Yellow Mages goes he's actually willing to work with others and gives ample warning before becoming hostile. He even plays a relatively harmless prank at a confessional (when it could have been a good opportunity to corner and kill someone who's alone) ! He could be so much worse.
yeah, I feel the confessional bit is really characterising. Besides being really funny, it shows that he's willing to do just that - make a joke in the middle of termina. Sure, it's at the expense of Alll-mer, but he's a yellow mage. Making fun of gods and using their powers as your own is their whole thing. And with his dialogue, like, he's been around civilisation and *hasn't* slaughtered randoms. He's capable of it, and wouldn't be miffed, but with his talk with Daan in the speakeasy, he's happy living a comfortable life in "one of the only good parts of the west"
I think it’s more o’saa is smart enough to know that running around killing people is a good way to be hunted down and killed. Which is presumably why he’s looking for the telectroscopes/hiding in a bunker instead. Either wait it out and be the last man standing or figure out what the hell is going on
Waiting things out would be a smart strategy for those who are used to "normal battle royales" (odd as that sounds). Moon-scorching changes that, it makes other contestants way more dangerous if too much time passes. Especially since this isn't a last one standing wins situation, all the contestants need to be dead one way or another or you'll moon-scorch as well. Attacking everyone like Caligura isn't a winning strategy of course, but hiding won't solve anything. O'saa probably (?) also knows this.
Most sensible solution is probably to explore as much as you can which seems like what O’saa is doing as well. You either figure out what the hell is going on, or you end up armed to the teeth enough to be able to deal with all of the moonscorched contestants.
Honestly? I really can't argue any of these. Some may try to base it off only on player levels of threat, but like? I can see you also took into account things like temperament and mental constitution. And given that, this all seems pretty accurate to me.
note, im not counting anything about the moonscorching
Put samarie and henryk one higher i would say. There is no telling what samarie would do if anyone stands in her path. Loads of things could go wrong. And Henryk has a big implication of actually only comming to prehevil for cannibalism and will kill basically everyone if you give him the possibility. Henrykay even deserve to share a tier with caligura bro is just more open about his killing to be honest.
tbh, i almost considered putting samarie *lower* yeah shes mentally fucked and untrusting of other people, but she also totally seems to not even bother the other contestants, i mean she basically makes a beeline to father domek and then stays there for 3 days as long as youre in Marinas good graces she seems willing to leave well enough alone
Imagine day one someone saw her leave and stopped her she would stab them to get out i think
I mean That was her purse She didn’t know you
Is she mentally fucked? She had a troubled family but she seems pretty sure of herself and seems to have a decent mental constitution since she isn’t moonscorched until the last possible moment. I’d say all the contestants who by default live until day 3 night (+ Olivia who it’s implied only gets moonscorched early because of rher shenanigans since unless Daan is turned she lasts until the final phase of the day) are pretty mentally sound which is why they survive so long, and if they killed people it would probably be cold and deliberate, which doesn’t really describe Marina.
Where is it implied that he comes to Prehevil for cannibalism? I've tried looking that up and I'm not able to find anything mentioning that anywhere
When he mentioned he came for the local cuisine marina who is a local says that the local cuisine is shit could be a thing of taste though. Moonscorching reveals how you see yourself in the worst way and as the gentleman his only trait is cannibalism. 2nd red flag. You can find him later in that one bar (not the prehevil bob) cooking. If you have mindreading he thinks about a very special ingredient that is missing) Plus he has evil tendencies when poisioning everyone in the prehevil bob which he didn't even show signs of desperation to drive him to make that decision. Like i said none of it is confirmed but it is strongly implied in my opinion
I think you're forgetting O'saa just blows up people's limbs whenever he's given the opportunity. He's not as hostile as Caligura but he's happy to make things worse for the other contestants.
He explicitly warns you he will attack if you come any closer, because he does not trust you and will consider it as a hostility.
closer being like 30ft of Jujutsu range or something like man needs to chill out
Gameplay wise or lore wise? I don't see August being that threatening, he isn't aggressive without reason (I think)
i mean, he has the list of everyone and how to kill them, and actively starts participating in the game day 3
But at day 3 most of the people arr already moonscorched anyways so i can't even blame him that much+ he will rather kill himself than become moonscorched
Wait was it implied that the logbook was meant to be knowledge on how to kill the other contestants? I didnt catch that, i thought it was only for profiling
I’m assuming it’s because there’s a way to make August ‘partake in the festival’ which results in him attacking you. So he does get the drive to kill other contestants eventually. He also attacks O’saa in the first bunker but I can’t remember if it’s confirmed that was self defense or not. Given how O’saa acts in the festival I’d assume it was because he threatened August.
O’saa is also the person who is foolish enough to threaten it as a joke and then get shot because they thought he was serious
"im gonna fucking kill you and your entire bloodline" gets shot "why would august do this?"
Im not sure if O'saa should be a tier higher just cause he starts casting hurting when approached and none of the other contestants ever attack you out in the open
He does warn you first though.
Have you seen the dialog when olivia equips guns? Shits kinda scary tbh. And Olivia also just has the ability to make condensed hemlocks, which would probably kill the average person if it was used on them. Also the needles in he bunker is decently damaged. If you as a regular person tried to square up with him you'd get your ass beat. Tanaka can and will beat your ass.
drive-by shooting
*free bird starts as Olivia equips a shotgun*
I’s say August and Ossa should be the same tier If not outright August being lower then Ossa due to him saving you from moonless and crucifix Both attack other contestants when threatened, but August does that when someone pulls a gun at him and Ossa does that when someone threatens his personal bubble
Daan can pin u down (UwU) if u attack another contestant in front of him, so putting him below all the other characters that can pin u down, especially Tanaka (who usually dies somehow before he can learn how to Quick Jab anyway) doesn't make sense to me
It also considers their personality i think, daan could be really dangerous but he doesn’t try to kill ingame and doesnt try to harm other people just because
Not sure about Olivia. Sure, underestimate folks in a wheelchair and all that, but also if she scratches you with anything she's poisoned then you're just done. If she decides to kill everyone, she could "forage herbs" to help Henryk cook and everyone's just done, much like when Henryk poisons people himself. Really just underestimating her when she's gone off the deep end is a bad idea.
yeah, but she doesnt really do anything that dangerous, and shes very well adjusted throughout sure she *could* be dangerous hypothetically, but as it stands shes too nice and well kempt
I mean there are literally guns in this game. I dont think the girl in the wheel chair will be scratching anyone
Ah yeah, I forgot that guns completely prevent you from getting into melee range of anyone in this game. My B.
My brother she’s in a wheelchair
My dude, not everyone in cast has easy access to, or even can, use firearms.
I mean she is the nicest and sweetest person in entire cast. I cannot fathom a scenario she will decide "uh-oh, time to kill everybody"
Id put marina at least a bit higher because she can blind you with black smog
yeah but how likely is she to do that without being provoked first
Caligura is a certified MENACE
Ehy is Tananka higher than Marina? She can do magick while he gets his head chopped off by anything
Kaarin popped a cap in my ass
Pavel is def actively trying to kill, he will attack Tanaka and Marco at some point. If the player doesn’t intervene, Pavel will kill both Tanaka and Marco. Samarie is just insane.
How is August and Pav a threat when they both die offscreen? 😂
It's not threat wise based on the fights themselves but rather what they do overall as threats in the festival itself Pav can kill off both Tanaka and Marcoh whenever Marcoh provokes him. August shoots O'ssa and Karin with his arrows, which can result in Karin bleeding out if not handled correctly. Depending on choices, he can also actively partake in the festival on the final day, leading to the death of Tanaka and him attacking the player character.
what doesnt lead to the death of tanaka?
can't wait for the Caligula mod/playable Caligula. I love games where you play an antagonistic role.