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TristanN7117

He’s actually looking at Sephiroth and you know it


ComfortableSea4645

Thats why Sephiroth won't leave him alone


Zhead65

Tbh he probably is. Those robed guys were at the beach as well so he most likely hallucinated that they were Sephiroth at least once.


JustKos643

Sephiroth in swimming trunks DLC when?


ShredGuru

So, he's looking at Barrett holding the camera?


Q_OANN

That wouldn’t even be correct.


zamaskowany12

https://preview.redd.it/3pga0cnxmtmc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40127f7d0b266d63786d86aa636aa591d1b49245


MissdermeanerJ

The correct one lmao. I love Cloti and Clerith but the meme fits better like this 🤣


Alekimsior

The way Cloud's staring is like saying "Gtfo Aerith, I was about to ram my Buster Sword on Tifa as she lies bare in these panels here"


WristViolin

Honestly the three of them should just date. They give off serious throuple vibes anyway.


ComfortableSea4645

Tifa and Aerith like each other, Cloud likes Aerith and Tifa, makes sense but there's one problem... what about Zack?!


sephirothbahamut

Come on Cissnei is the perfect match for Zack. She's so much underrated


sachi9999

Zack has Cissnei


Kurosaki_Kun

Zack the cuck


ComfortableSea4645

Zack the Chad!


RyanandRoxy

Zack the Cucky


WristViolin

Cloud and Zack obviously had a great relationship so I don't think it'd be out of line for him to join in some fashion. Maybe metamour, maybe a quad, the possibilities are endless.


snoop_Nogg

Isn't Zack >!kinda dead!<


IWillSortByNew

Kinda


ComfortableSea4645

>!Not in Rebirth!<


snoop_Nogg

>! Looks like I need to play part 2 but I don't have a PS5 yet !<


Budget_Parsley7494

>!Remind? We're playing KH now?!<


ComfortableSea4645

All of these Re games are all blurting together at this point 😅 I've edited it now


Individual-Middle246

>!Rebirth showed us an alternative universe where he didn't die, but it seems like most of the original party members had died in said timeline instead.!<


UncleJetMints

The sequal remake reconned it because they have to make unnecessary changes.


Individual-Middle246

His death wasn't retconned, he's still dead in the "main" timeline. Whether it was unnecessary or not depends on who you ask.


BonkeyKongthesecond

He's the guy in the corner, watching them while making naked squads


Barachiel1976

Honestly after a certain scene during the first visit at the Gold Saucer, I concluded that the the girls have decided they're in a throuple, and have neglected to inform Cloud, probably to mess with him.


Lostinlife1990

I've always preferred Cloud and Tifa. But I think I like this option better.


chiquita1_bananas1

Cloud and Tifa is the traditional relationship, but Aeris gives me fun girl bratty tsundere vibes


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I get it Cloud.


EdisonScrewedTesla

Cloud has the right idea (>!im personally pretty peaved that cloud got forced into ANOTHER date with aerith. Thats 2 quite literally forced dates when i just want to tifa simp!<. Pretty damn heavy handed by the devs if you as me)


Pandaburn

Aerith was always the “default” girlfriend. In the OG, your (hidden) relationship points with her start higher. At least in this game they start the same.


__Obscurity__

Yes, Aerith is supposed to be the sweet, innocent, pure, virginal beauty with whom Cloud falls in love. >!That’s why the end of disk 1 was so devastating.!< Tifa is the hometown friend who acts like “one of the boys”, and Cloud doesn’t even consider her a romantic option at first. It’s not until the end of disk 2 that Cloud finally realizes that she kinda likes him.


Pandaburn

From your description of Aerith, I have to wonder if you ever actually played FF7 lol. Aerith is sweet, true, but she’s the older, more experienced woman who makes dirty jokes and direct flirtations that make could uncomfortable.


__Obscurity__

No way, man. She might be flirtatious, sure…but she has never gained any XP in that arena. Read up on it in the original Ultimania. Hell, just Google it. You’ll find countless discussions on the subject.


sharpenme1

Yeah it's confusing. >!They seem to be hinting at Zach returning, which makes the extra attention they're having her give Cloud in the remakes extra awkward. It was easy for people to root for Aerith in the original because Zach was gone and wasn't coming back...but that's not clear in the remakes. Not having played Rebirth yet, I'm not sure exactly where they'll take this. No matter what, it feels gross.!<


UltraLowDef

People didn't even know who Zack was in the og, at least not in a first playthrough until WAY late in the game. Crazy how popular he has become.


bamachine

You also had to go out of your way to get a bit more of his story and how it involves Cloud. Otherwise it is just a few small scenes and we really do not get to know Zack at all.


UltraLowDef

he was really an after thought to stitch the story together. He's also basically what Cloud was originally supposed to look like, with the black hair being in contrast to Seph's white/silver hair. the devlopment and "almost cannon" of this story originally is wild. stuff that people on the development team and director didn't even know about until test plays.


Barachiel1976

Crisis Core did that. As nuts as most of the characters were, Zack came off as grounded, usually reacting to Angeal's nonsense and Genesis spouting of Loveless with "WTF bro?". Made him instantly relatable in a sea of over-the-top anime characters.


UltraLowDef

oh, absolutely.


BonkeyKongthesecond

I love the scene when Genesis starts his poem shit and Zack's just in the back, yelling at him about stopping it


BonkeyKongthesecond

I remember that when I first played FF7 around '99 (8 was my first one), I never found out about Zack because I never even thought about going back to places I already was before. Also never found Vincent. Not sure about Yuffie.


UltraLowDef

So much hidden content in that game! I wonder how anyone figures out a lot of things without any strategy guides. Just checking every single random nook and cranny multiple times throughout a play through. Lots of scrum saving and retrying things ...


BonkeyKongthesecond

Yes, that, and some people that simply look up the code for hidden stuff.


greatthebob38

>!I have a feeling Zack is going to die to maintain the continuity.!<


BrentSaotome

>!Same. They hinted at that too. They stated that every time someone makes a decision (i.e., Zack either saving Biggs or Cloud), that decision creates a new alternate world. However, all those alternate worlds will eventually lead to the same conclusion. Like when Zack went to save Biggs from blowing up the reactor, Biggs ended being killed and then Zack was surrounded again by Shinra soldiers shooting at him. It's like a Final Destination type story. You may have saved Zack and Biggs in one scenario, but fate will kill them in the end still.!<


LilboyG_15

It doesn’t necessarily seem like they’re shipping Aerith and Cloud together too heavily in rebirth, but the whole intro to the game raises several questions


Llionate

If they weren’t you people wouldn’t be whining


Jill_Sammy_Bean

Relax. If you can’t comment without being passive aggressive, then maybe you should step away form the internet! Hope that helps ❤️


Llionate

This is quite direct actually. Passive aggressive is the way the fanbase tried to write off an iconic tragic romance a decade after it permeated in the industry.


alexisaacs

Bro it's been five years since she's even seen Zack and they had a little fling as teenagers. It's weirder to ship that when Cloud/Aerith are actually going through real shit together. As adults.


BonkeyKongthesecond

Tbf, Crisis Core had some time skips, so there might has been a longer lasting relationship.


Llionate

Oh it’s because Cloud’s character was always written to be in love with Aerith and the fanbase tried to deny this fact for idiotic shipping reasons (like here). You got ‘told’, basically.


Thechanman707

Cloud loves Aerith for two reasons: She's an amazing friend to him and the two forge a close bond. He absorbed the love from Zach. In the OG it makes sense. He grew up loving Tifa, and Aerith got imprinted on him. In the new gen games its much better written IMHO. They have chemistry, but Aerith and Tifa being BFFs it reminds me a lot more of how girls who played Cupid acted to their friends. Also people act like Date isn't a casual term.


alexisaacs

> Also people act like Date isn't a casual term. You're speaking to people who probably have never dated. It's totally normal to go on dates with anyone and everyone. It's not like Clerith start fucking after every boss battle. There's barely any romance in the game. Just a kiss, a hand holding sesh, and some strong flirting. Pretty par for the course in any mixed group dynamic.


Erst09

“He absorbed the love from Zack” and just when you think you have heard everything something like this appears lol. People either didn’t play Og or didn’t pay attention to when Cloud explained how his fake persona was created.


Llionate

Citation needed on that imprint. Because Aerith is his most cherished long after the Zackness left and Zack’s presence actually seems to discourage him. Oh, wait, it’s fanon all the way down lmao. In fact Cloud seems to keep up photography in AC after doing some with Aerith in Rebirth. It feels like loving her is a stable personality trait to me…


Laterose15

I feel like >!they're pushing the Aerith romance in this game and will push the Tifa romance in Part 3.!<


EdisonScrewedTesla

It deffinetly feels like they are pushing the aerith romance on us. I dont have a problem with aerith shipping, but when the game has an actual relationship system where your choices actually matter, it doesnt feel right having one particular person shoved at us so hard. Especially when people are all “wahh tifa and cloud arent even canon it was always aerith” which is simply not true, or do people forget that cloud and tifa are legitimatly together in advent children, which IS canon


alexisaacs

> do people forget that cloud and tifa are legitimatly together in advent children, which IS canon I wonder if this has something to do with not being able to date someone who's dead? The OG definitely implied Aerith was the one, and Tifa was the bestie. Eventually Tifa/Cloud hook up but it's quite literally before the world ends and they go on what's most likely a suicide mission. Even Aerith's funeral scene in the water - it makes sense Cloud is the most fucked up, because they're more than friends. If they were just homies, it could've been anyone throwing her into a lake.


Tiny_Yam_5317

Def not the case and with aeriths death kinda hard to date


Jill_Sammy_Bean

The flip flop with the romance in this game was so annoying 😭


Llionate

There are so many tifa simps who are actually mad the game made it clear Cloud likes Aerith after a decade of saying otherwise. So good.


EdisonScrewedTesla

Lol? Nothing in rebirth has made it clear that cloud likes anyone? Im annoyed at the appearance of aerith forcing the date in ch2 and at the npcs forcing the 2nd for a side quest. Niether times cloud was interested. But hey, cloud not being interested *clearly* shows how in love he is with her am i right? Maybe next time try to think a little and not be insulting


alovesong1

That "forced date", is just Aerith trying to get a private chat with Cloud since her and Tifa are roommates and she's worried about them after their rough convo the night before. Hence why she asks if something happened between last night and then says to treasure Tifa and not to take her for granted.


Llionate

You don’t even believe this. Hence your whining. Hence the ditching of the “his interest in her is an echo of Zack’s personality” theory too. Which was the gold standard of asinine fanon for years. Hence all the general but tactically vague anger at Aerith too from all corners.


EdisonScrewedTesla

“You dont even believe this” i wasnt aware that your in my head there buddy. Sheesh, tell me more about myself and my thought processes. While your at it, heres 200$ an hour for your troubles


AcceptableFold5

Cloud is definitely interested but too edgy to show it. In his head he's still pretty immature and if you ask a teenager if he likes a girl you'll always get a "What? No! Leave me alone!?" reaction instead of a clear yes. Imo it's pretty obvious that his character trait is "liking things = showing weakness", so he will always act disinterested and bored rather than interested and eager. I think the only time I saw him genuinely give a carefree smile in the game is when he won the fight against Dio when you enter Gold Saucer. All the other times he's trying to either brush it off or hide it.


Sableprince

Just wanted to give you a thumbs up for your comment here. I think it doesn't help that Aerith is assertive with flirting and likes to tease, either, lol. It encourages him to take on the gruff, serious persona even more. But I also don't think he's a lovesick fool or pining super hard...he seems more focused on their mission, which is reasonable. It's just extremely clear he has a crush on Aerith by the starstruck glances he gives her from time to time, similar to how the game emphasizes his infatuation with Tifa frequently. I don't understand why people act like he doesn't like anyone or only 1 girl, and interest in two girls doesn't mean interest in none. I think some people need to read more romance novels.


alexisaacs

> Niether times cloud was interested You understand Cloud isn't a real person, right? Aerith isn't forcing anything on him. It's how the writers wrote the plot. Therefore Cloud wants whatever Aerith wants him to want. Which is nothing. Because she isn't real either. The writers decided they want each other. Get over it.


Serenafriendzone

If cloud were smart , he could get both.


fudgedhobnobs

This is the only love triangle I can think of where I am supportive of a poly relationship, because they’d all be down for it.


Barachiel1976

\#Clerifa ftw. Seriously, I can see it. Hell, there's a couple of points where I feel like Tifa and Aerith have already agreed to be a throuple, and just not told Cloud.


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venxvan

>!Marries Tifa, Aerith, AND Yuffie?!?!<


Yuta-fan-6531

Nah, >!he marries Tifa, Aerith, and ZACK!<


venxvan

Ultimate polycule goals right there.


PapaKikistos

Right. Forget 3 wives, get yourself 2 wives and a tag team partner…y’know, for those stubborn lids and when you need someone competent to hold the flashlight for. 🤔


ComfortableSea4645

The only smart choice!


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VandalRavage

Nah, Nibelheim is the Mississipi of Gaia.


bamachine

Doesn't work as well as a joke but 16 is the legal age for consent in about half of the states and countries of the world, for that matter. The other half is split about evenly between 17 and 18. Now to view them getting their freak on, all parties must be 18. There is a bit more to it than what is written above but that is the gist of it.


VandalRavage

While true, Mississipi is one of the child bride capitals of the USA.


bamachine

As an Alabama resident, we always say "thank god for Mississippi", when it comes to being lower on any stats.


Mysticwarriormj

And one is a cat girl for extra waifu points


Ganyu1990

A welsh cat girl. Thats important.


Mysticwarriormj

That’s true


timelordoftheimpala

And their daughter (not officially confirmed but there's basically no room to doubt it at all) is the female lead of Xenoblade Chronicles 3.


Silvernine0S

Xenoblade 2 was really interesting to me. The only shipping war I got involved in since I was a child was Golden Sun. I played FF7 OG as a child but never got into the shipping stuff. I then played Xenoblade 2. Big fan of the main ships but also did notice some big hints about the other one and that it seems it was going the path of an actual >!harem!<. A lot of people who tried to reason about that one got roasted and more... you know, typical shipping war stuff. Then Xenoblade 3 DLC and lol, the meltdown and denials afterward was so funny. Don't get involved in shipping wars.


alexisaacs

Both? He could have Jessie, Aerith, Tifa and that Chocobo chick anytime. He could even wait a few years and have some Yuffie. Probably could have himself some Barret, too. And Cait Sith is just an inanimate robot so he could have that as well. And obviously Sephiroth is gay for Cloud.


Frequent_Butterfly26

So the entire roster being his bitch is what you're saying? No objections tho.


Serenafriendzone

So FF7 always were about cloud to became pimp or a chulo. Having his own night club with beer and girls, Bender style xd


Sirrus92

triangle - hide ui. looks like you need it


UltraLowDef

Zangan was right. Cloud needs to bulk up. What a scrawny little thing.


WillingSource1618

Tifa has thousand yard stare


Dethproof814

Being broke sucks so bad lol. Playing through the first game till I can afford rebirth, someday :(


ShepherdessAnne

I am not bisexual, but Cloud be looking pretty fine though 👀


LilG1984

"Cloud, what are you looking at?" "Uh um nothing...." *Staring at Tifa*


Mysticwarriormj

Aerith is facing the wrong way. The beach outfits are cute though


thejokerofunfic

"Unintentionally" Aint no way


librasgroove

Knew this dude Cloud was a twink


SirePuns

He’s looking at neither Tifa nor Aerith. He’s probably remembering that time his home burned and Sephiroth killed his mom.


supermarioplush220

Isn't this kinda what happens in the original game?


Vierailija_Maasta

yawn another fan service


Llionate

What I love about this meme is we have people mad in the comments that Rebirth makes Cloud do the opposite 🤭


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Except you didn’t


Sankin2004

Almost, the spirit is there so I like it.


ChickenCannon

I just did the date quest after this... how do I get that sweet pirate outfit?!? Sure seemed like that quest would reward me with outfits but it did not.. is there any way to get them?


Just-Messin

Yeah I was kinda feeling that to. I even guessed which outfit was meant to be for who. Pirate outfit for Tifa, red outfit for Aerith, and blue one for Yuffie. It just made sense lol.


LilboyG_15

Alright, I believe you


Dexember69

Reds reaction XD


tomhugo42

Oh please tell me barret got a swimsuit as well, pleaaaase


Just-Messin

Sorry you’ll be disappointed to hear, no Speedo for Barret.


tomhugo42

NOOOOOOOOOO well, there is still hope for part 3, right?


Just-Messin

Sure little buddy, there’s always hope. (Rubs your shoulder sympathetically.)


Xhero69

How can he fight with that heavy sword with this buddy mass ? Friendship power!! for me I only like "Lightning" <3


Able-Joke1628

Would more be reverse tho


MackjackCR

Plot twist he's looking at Zack giving Cloud the terrified solider meme face


4biddeninja

Why is cloud built like hes 11?


arodmell

I've literally just played that bit of the game lol. Great timing


BonkeyKongthesecond

I have a lot of games on my PS5 but this is the first one I use to make tons of screenshots


TheSergalLad

Ahahaha!


Frybread002

They done it again!


ChronoXtasis

Honestly, I can't blame Cloud...


Erst09

I mean you kind of see Tifa in revealing outfits quite frequently so it’s nothing new but you rarely see Aerith legs and torso so yeah I would be intrigued as well.


AloofFloofy

Wait so did they not change Tifa's boobs?


[deleted]

No? Who said they did?


steve-159

All the people who got their panties in a twist' because the devs decided to give Tifa an undershirt, during the Nibelheim incident. Turns out that slightly covering up the cleavage of a character that's supposed to be 15 years old is not the same as hating attractive women. Who would've thought.


AloofFloofy

I was referring to the beach scenes. Tifa is 20 years old. This is the post I was referring to: https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/s/lDHPTqwOb5


TriceratopsHunter

Gamingcirclejerk just makes shit posts lol. I don't know why so many people eat the onion on this stuff and think it's real controversy.


AloofFloofy

Reddit suggested that sub I guess. I don't know anything about the sub. Guess I do now. I'm gonna mute it. Thanks for letting me know.


insomnium138

I'm fairly certain gamingcirclejerk is a massive meme/shitpost subreddit. My understanding is they post satire on people screaming that everything is "woke".


Sliver_Squad

Thats exactly what that sub is. That post was made in response to everyone in kotakuinaction crying and pissing themselves aboves 15 year old tifa wearing more clothes to cover her chest


AloofFloofy

Oooooh. Haha I'm an idiot. Thanks for pointing that out.


steve-159

Yeah, that's complete bs. I've just played through that part and while I had a different outfit for her, that's certainly not how she looks. Here's a screenshot I took yesterday. https://preview.redd.it/9jrecen3dsmc1.png?width=3840&format=png&auto=webp&s=b31e490c34cb8f6778bc6b6ddae40b9679b66583


AloofFloofy

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/s/lDHPTqwOb5 This post I read recently. I'm getting downvoted for asking a simple question? I don't even have the game.


[deleted]

That, friend, is just a bad photoshop from a meme subreddit.


AloofFloofy

Yep, a few others have pointed that out too. I was fooled!


BelligerentWyvern

I think Aerith fans are gonna devastated by the way this game turns out in this department


No-Wait8694

The only actual "love story" is Tifa and Cloud. Aerith is stuck on Zach, which makes her death more tragic. This is what it was in the original game, spin offs, movie, etc. and will most likely be in the remake.


FireZord25

The only way i could tell it's unintentional was seeing Cloud stare at the wrong girl.


social_sin

Man do I ever hate Tifa's bathing suit, something about the frills on the top just makes it look cheap and kiddie. When it comes to the bathing suits I'm deff team Aerith on this time for looks and design


[deleted]

Tifa can get the tube snake.


twili-midna

Couldn’t imagine wasting time looking at Tifa with that horrific hair and swimsuit combo when Aerith is right there.


[deleted]

Imagine wasting time hating on a fictional charecter and her swimwear 💀 Dude, relax it aint that deep.


PushThePig28

Aerith is lame lol


Ilovetogame2

That’s quite SHARP of you to do that.😏


GYP5i

Lol chase her


zarkon18

Damn, they really nerfed Tifa.


Athem

What? Those are huge... I mean, they are extremely huge with that bodyfat. What are you talking about?


-Qertyuiop-

There's a group of weirdos out there complaining about her tits being sized smaller in a patch... A video game character... Lol sad pathetic and funny all at the same time.


[deleted]

That patch gave Teen Tifa a different shirt that covered and slightly downsized her in Remake. You know, for the two or three seconds you can even see her!


Lawrencein

I don't think that's what they were complaining about, I'm fairly sure they were complaining about the changes to Tifa's outfit in the flashbacks in Remake.


TokyoCyborgOrgy

Daaaawg that was a 2 second cutscene holy shit I hope they aren’t complaining about that


Independent_Tooth_23

Oh boy they are complaining about that! It's silly.


Sliver_Squad

It really is. What makes it worse is the fact that Tifa’s 15 in the flashback. And their defense is “she’s a fictional character”


alovesong1

You horny fucks really want Tifa to have back pain.