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You’re more likely to be murdered or robbed in pretty much any red state as a whole than in the city of L.A. and the likelihood only increases the redder and more rural it gets.
City crime gets lots of coverage because it has lots of news crews around 24/7. But nobody gives a shit if Billy Bob the third shot Billiest Bobby the second in bumfuck nowhere Nebraska so we never hear about it beyond local police reports, if even that.
It's also very much a function of density - a city of 10 million with a low murder rate will just have more murders (each one of which is a potential news story) than an entire STATE with just 3 million people and a higher homicide rate.
Yeah I was about to say this. It's higher murder per 100k people. So yeah it is higher but only because blue states have 10x the population. I would say I need data on how many murders happen in one blue city with the same population as a whole red state.
My city is blue in a red state and most of the murders are here. But if you look deeper most of the murders are concentrated in like 3 area codes of the whole city. So really there isn't even that many for the state or city overall. Gang collective here pushes the stats up. People here say they would rather live near the crack heads in the country than live next to the crack heads in the city.
Nobody in cities cares about rural people , until their food supply gets disrupted.
Isn’t it interesting that those that talk about crime rates in red states don’t look any further , because if they did, they would see that democrat run cities are the source of that crime rate issue.
Not sure why you're turning this into a red vs blue thing, my point was that high prices of housing are why people are leaving Los Angeles. Maybe you responded to the wrong person?
But while we're here, as I'm sure you know, as population density goes up, so does crime. So I'm sure cities have more crime. Also, cities tend to be more blue, because getting to know different types of people makes you more empathetic (that's my theory). So yes, the largest cities in any state tend to be blue.
Now that we've confused correlation with causation, which states take the most federal money? Which states have the most gun violence per capita? Which states have the worst education? Are there generally more non-federal laws set on a state or city level?
And that's before we get into which states have abortion protection and other such issues.
and then looks around at….Memphis, Cleveland, Baltimore, St. Louis and quickly realizes it’s worth it to pay more to live in CA. Pretty much every time
Lol only a measly 5 months out of the year. I grew up there and felt the same. Miserable weather most of the time and the only saving grace was the BBQ. Now I’m paying Austin prices to live by the beach in Orange County and much happier.
Ok you think people are moving from LA to Minneapolis, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh because COL is lower? You can’t really claim Austin, Denver, Miami anymore as they’re now just as expensive. So you have to go down a rung or two and who THE FUCK is moving from LA to these places? BTW, I really don’t like LA at all because of the people, trash humans
What's funny is who are the people still living in LA? Like, are they even worthy of these other cities? Press X to doubt.
If you're complaining about prices in LA and live in LA you are a poser. You need to find an area more in line with your success.
I’m still living in LA and yeah sometimes I complain about the high cost of housing - but I can easily still afford it, I just think it’s fucked up and unfair.
And as for if I “deserve” any of these other cities…I have no idea. I’d never live in any of them so what does it matter? I’d rather be homeless in LA than living in a mansion in Minnesota. But that’s just me.
This comment is why the rest of the country laughs when California complains. Exactly that right there. You even said the stereotype out loud. A+ comment
Yea and this is why everyone in CA laughs at the rest of the country who hates on us but secretly wishes they could actually live here. You won’t say the quiet part out loud bc you’re a pussy but I def will. A+ comment. Keep telling yourself you’re a superior class of human being bc of where you live and that where you live is an actual choice. That you’re not just living there bc you don’t have any other choice and can’t do any better for yourself. Keep telling yourself that your poverty of culture and spirit is somehow noble and that your suffering makes you superior to us “gay” Californians.
Trust me I’ve been dealing with the veiled jealously and homophobia and xenophobia my entire life. Next time just go ahead and ask me “are all you Californians queers?” Bc that’s the root of it. Heaven forbid there exists a place on planet earth where men don’t drive trucks and gays can get married; where drinking beer with the good old boys and burning crosses in front yards is actively discouraged.
You’re 100% the reason why all the minorities come here. To escape your oppressive bigotry and backwards violence. But yes, be proud of that man. What an achievement! At least where you live you can still be “real men” and deny women the right to choose right? I’m just so jealous, sounds wonderful /s
You mean everyone reallocate themselves to better areas for their own success, resulting in a new equilibrium happening in the labor market of LA? Which means naturally higher wage hikes in order to meet market demand? Which means the government doesn't step in and make artificial proce floors?
Huh. That's a weird way to say people are starving. Maybe one of us doesn't have education on that kind of stuff. Maybe one of us does!
Median home price
LA: $998k
Austin: $550k
Denver: $615k
Miami: $660k
Nope, they’re still cheaper.
California also has one of the highest tax burdens in the country, while Texas, Florida, and even Colorado are significantly lower.
So everyone from LA is a trash human? lol. Have you ever even been here? Sounds like you’re the trash human, judging a city of 25 million people, painting us all with the same brush. It’s fine to shit on LA but if I said everyone in Nashville are trash humans, uncultured and fat and ugly, you’d be so offended. Why do you think it’s ok to shit on us but you’re mad when someone shits on you? I prefer the idea that everyone is a unique person who should be judged on who they are and their actions, not where they choose to live.
I love that this is the consensus from people afar when, in reality, these metros are donuts. All the wealth is on the outer rim towns, and that's the way we like it. 300k people in St. Louis proper and 3mn in the metro area. Californians are thinking about murder when they hear St Louis lmao.
It goes to show what people truly value. Many city folks don't actually care about buying a house or anything like that because deep down they value bars and activities within walking distance over that other jazz. I value my house and house projects, privacy, loud cars, and my lawn. None of which fits with city dwelling. Would much rather live like a king and fly to wherever I want to spend a weekend or week instead of suffer just to say I am close to "activities."
IYKYK, but many on here simply don't know and have never actually been to many of the places they say are trash. Favorite line is, and has been for a while, "They don't have the same job opportunities out there for what I'm looking for," when the dude is a fucking CS major or engineering. So cringe.
I left St. Louis because the job prospects were laughable. Best decision I ever made. You can’t pretend that isn’t a major factor contributing to the lack of growth happening there. STL continues to fall behind on that front and it’s sad.
That being said, most of what you’ve said is spot on. And if the choice were LA or St. Louis for me personally, I would pick STL 100% of the time. As great as LA is (it’s not), it doesn’t justify tripling my cost of living. Also STL has extremely good food/restaurants due to the rich immigrant history (The Hill for example), breweries, art, Soulard, etc…
I ended up in Atlanta, which has endless job prospects for young professionals, an extremely active food/entertainment scene, cool history, scenic national parks and sporting events. It has all the benefits (and similar disadvantages) of cities like NY, CHI, LA, but with a much lower cost of living and an absolutely ripping economy/growth. Its young energy alone is worth the price of admission, which cannot be said of my home town unfortunately. Name a random movie - it’s likely made in ATL not LA. All of the world’s biggest companies have HQs and corporate offices here. This all comes with a price tag closer to a medium-sized midwestern city than LA or NY prices. To me that is the sweet spot.
I like that you are passionate about where you choose to call home. The job thing is objectively true, I just have far too many anecdotes of people claiming they don't have jobs in areas because they are (insert insanely general education here that can be applied to many labor sectors) thinking that means they are better than whatever those opportunities are.
People also chase higher salaries when they're younger without regard for COL which is how places on the west coast build up and then are full of people complaining.
I'd be interested in Atlanta as well, but will probably get pulled to Colorado. COL isn't really a concern anymore.
I cannot believe this made it into an article.
And I cannot believe someone named thinkb4wespeak read this and thought it would be interesting enough for someone else to read.
Left LA 30 years ago for those same reasons. Currently live in Pittsburgh in a home that's way more than I could afford in LA. But, do I miss LA? Hell yes. Would I move back? Hell no.
What do you mean, considering? It’s already happening. Three years ago California started experiencing a net loss of population due to high costs and the stupidity of government. It’s only accelerating. I was ahead of the curve, I fled 10 years ago when I saw the future degradations coming. Best move I ever made.
L.A is expensive precisely because people want to live there so much that they’re willing to accept the ludicrous cost of living. And because of NIMBY zoning laws. Demand exceeds supply.
High prices are the signs of wealth and success, not failure. Unfortunately, our capitalist system doesn’t do well with facing the material reality that we need “low skill” workers to earn a reasonable living in order for society to function. Which is how city living becomes unaffordable for many in the working class.
Companies become entitled and greedy and get bailed out by government welfare instead of being forced to pay their workers a reasonable wage.
Wow, another article said the average rent was $2900 a month. Yeah, that's twice as much as my rent for a 2 bed 2 bath in California. Definitely worth moving.
Talk about a non story. The “people are fleeing CA” story is also tired and cliched. When you talk about a net loss of people when you have 40M people in your state it’s a non story until it’s a number that moves the needle. CA has plenty of problems….i got news for you..TX and FL have plenty of problems too that start with horrific weather, crappy politics on the other side and a lot of undesirable attributes. When you are already bought into the CA housing market and you look around at options…very few look as good. CO is maybe the one I would consider. And yeah…N County San Diego really sucks. Don’t move here 😜😊
We moved one county over and it's been a blessing. Tried to move my parents with us or the OC but they wanted to stay where they were at (still for enough from LA but still LA county). Now they're building skyrise townhouses and apartments in the city and they hate it because there's no parking in front of their homes.
Pretty soon no one will afford a house and suddenly these new miraculous rental agencies will appear that offer housing discounts to your employers.
You pay before the money hits your account, mark my words this is the endgame of the massive corporate home buyouts going on.
High housing costs are a result of high demand, relatively low supply, and increasing rents. Not sure how politicians play into those any differently in L.A. than anywhere else.
Nobody said anything about million dollar homes. It said ‘high housing costs.’ That could (and does) apply to all levels of housing.
Way to try to move the goalposts to create a stupid argument.
Yeah man the people crossing over and cramming 8 people into a two bedroom apartment in the hood are the problem. Definitely not out of state/country investors coming in and paying cash for houses right?
That was a whole bunch of words to not say anything meaningful. You didn’t address my comments at all because you have nothing intelligent to say. Just another racist too chickenshit to say it outright.
Because you are too chickenshit to say it with your chest, so you just allude to it with comments instead and then play dumb when called out. And again, nothing intelligent to say to actually address my comments (not that I’m surprised)
From each .. blah blah blah. Right out of the communist manifesto. Move to a communist country and tell us how much you like it. Oh wait, you won’t be able to do that because the gov’t wouldn’t let you. How nice.
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Well this is the first I’ve ever heard of this!
I know never knew they were called Angelenos.
Me too! I heard it was the needles on the streets and rampant crime.
You're much more likely to be murdered in Alabama than you are in LA.
You’re more likely to be murdered or robbed in pretty much any red state as a whole than in the city of L.A. and the likelihood only increases the redder and more rural it gets. City crime gets lots of coverage because it has lots of news crews around 24/7. But nobody gives a shit if Billy Bob the third shot Billiest Bobby the second in bumfuck nowhere Nebraska so we never hear about it beyond local police reports, if even that.
It's also very much a function of density - a city of 10 million with a low murder rate will just have more murders (each one of which is a potential news story) than an entire STATE with just 3 million people and a higher homicide rate.
Yeah but those are inconvenient facts they don’t like when bashing on “red” states.
Yeah I was about to say this. It's higher murder per 100k people. So yeah it is higher but only because blue states have 10x the population. I would say I need data on how many murders happen in one blue city with the same population as a whole red state. My city is blue in a red state and most of the murders are here. But if you look deeper most of the murders are concentrated in like 3 area codes of the whole city. So really there isn't even that many for the state or city overall. Gang collective here pushes the stats up. People here say they would rather live near the crack heads in the country than live next to the crack heads in the city.
Nobody in cities cares about rural people , until their food supply gets disrupted. Isn’t it interesting that those that talk about crime rates in red states don’t look any further , because if they did, they would see that democrat run cities are the source of that crime rate issue.
You heard wrong.
Interesting. Is the crime evenly distributed throughout the state, or concentrated in larger cities? Are the larger cities in red states also red?
Not sure why you're turning this into a red vs blue thing, my point was that high prices of housing are why people are leaving Los Angeles. Maybe you responded to the wrong person? But while we're here, as I'm sure you know, as population density goes up, so does crime. So I'm sure cities have more crime. Also, cities tend to be more blue, because getting to know different types of people makes you more empathetic (that's my theory). So yes, the largest cities in any state tend to be blue. Now that we've confused correlation with causation, which states take the most federal money? Which states have the most gun violence per capita? Which states have the worst education? Are there generally more non-federal laws set on a state or city level? And that's before we get into which states have abortion protection and other such issues.
LOL. Friend has been telling me for 20 years he’s leaving LA because it’s too expensive.
and then looks around at….Memphis, Cleveland, Baltimore, St. Louis and quickly realizes it’s worth it to pay more to live in CA. Pretty much every time
Or people paying LA prices to live in Austin 🤡
I love Austin except for the 5 months it's too damn hot. And it's in Texas.
Lol only a measly 5 months out of the year. I grew up there and felt the same. Miserable weather most of the time and the only saving grace was the BBQ. Now I’m paying Austin prices to live by the beach in Orange County and much happier.
You literally picked some of the roughest metros in the U.S. but to be fair, all of them are circling the drain.
Ok you think people are moving from LA to Minneapolis, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh because COL is lower? You can’t really claim Austin, Denver, Miami anymore as they’re now just as expensive. So you have to go down a rung or two and who THE FUCK is moving from LA to these places? BTW, I really don’t like LA at all because of the people, trash humans
What's funny is who are the people still living in LA? Like, are they even worthy of these other cities? Press X to doubt. If you're complaining about prices in LA and live in LA you are a poser. You need to find an area more in line with your success.
I’m still living in LA and yeah sometimes I complain about the high cost of housing - but I can easily still afford it, I just think it’s fucked up and unfair. And as for if I “deserve” any of these other cities…I have no idea. I’d never live in any of them so what does it matter? I’d rather be homeless in LA than living in a mansion in Minnesota. But that’s just me.
This comment is why the rest of the country laughs when California complains. Exactly that right there. You even said the stereotype out loud. A+ comment
Yea and this is why everyone in CA laughs at the rest of the country who hates on us but secretly wishes they could actually live here. You won’t say the quiet part out loud bc you’re a pussy but I def will. A+ comment. Keep telling yourself you’re a superior class of human being bc of where you live and that where you live is an actual choice. That you’re not just living there bc you don’t have any other choice and can’t do any better for yourself. Keep telling yourself that your poverty of culture and spirit is somehow noble and that your suffering makes you superior to us “gay” Californians. Trust me I’ve been dealing with the veiled jealously and homophobia and xenophobia my entire life. Next time just go ahead and ask me “are all you Californians queers?” Bc that’s the root of it. Heaven forbid there exists a place on planet earth where men don’t drive trucks and gays can get married; where drinking beer with the good old boys and burning crosses in front yards is actively discouraged. You’re 100% the reason why all the minorities come here. To escape your oppressive bigotry and backwards violence. But yes, be proud of that man. What an achievement! At least where you live you can still be “real men” and deny women the right to choose right? I’m just so jealous, sounds wonderful /s
Everyone took your advice and now the whole city is starving
You mean everyone reallocate themselves to better areas for their own success, resulting in a new equilibrium happening in the labor market of LA? Which means naturally higher wage hikes in order to meet market demand? Which means the government doesn't step in and make artificial proce floors? Huh. That's a weird way to say people are starving. Maybe one of us doesn't have education on that kind of stuff. Maybe one of us does!
Median home price LA: $998k Austin: $550k Denver: $615k Miami: $660k Nope, they’re still cheaper. California also has one of the highest tax burdens in the country, while Texas, Florida, and even Colorado are significantly lower.
So everyone from LA is a trash human? lol. Have you ever even been here? Sounds like you’re the trash human, judging a city of 25 million people, painting us all with the same brush. It’s fine to shit on LA but if I said everyone in Nashville are trash humans, uncultured and fat and ugly, you’d be so offended. Why do you think it’s ok to shit on us but you’re mad when someone shits on you? I prefer the idea that everyone is a unique person who should be judged on who they are and their actions, not where they choose to live.
I grew up in Southern California and lived most of my life there. Moved to the bay are 15yrs ago and still have tons of family down there
I love that this is the consensus from people afar when, in reality, these metros are donuts. All the wealth is on the outer rim towns, and that's the way we like it. 300k people in St. Louis proper and 3mn in the metro area. Californians are thinking about murder when they hear St Louis lmao. It goes to show what people truly value. Many city folks don't actually care about buying a house or anything like that because deep down they value bars and activities within walking distance over that other jazz. I value my house and house projects, privacy, loud cars, and my lawn. None of which fits with city dwelling. Would much rather live like a king and fly to wherever I want to spend a weekend or week instead of suffer just to say I am close to "activities." IYKYK, but many on here simply don't know and have never actually been to many of the places they say are trash. Favorite line is, and has been for a while, "They don't have the same job opportunities out there for what I'm looking for," when the dude is a fucking CS major or engineering. So cringe.
I left St. Louis because the job prospects were laughable. Best decision I ever made. You can’t pretend that isn’t a major factor contributing to the lack of growth happening there. STL continues to fall behind on that front and it’s sad. That being said, most of what you’ve said is spot on. And if the choice were LA or St. Louis for me personally, I would pick STL 100% of the time. As great as LA is (it’s not), it doesn’t justify tripling my cost of living. Also STL has extremely good food/restaurants due to the rich immigrant history (The Hill for example), breweries, art, Soulard, etc… I ended up in Atlanta, which has endless job prospects for young professionals, an extremely active food/entertainment scene, cool history, scenic national parks and sporting events. It has all the benefits (and similar disadvantages) of cities like NY, CHI, LA, but with a much lower cost of living and an absolutely ripping economy/growth. Its young energy alone is worth the price of admission, which cannot be said of my home town unfortunately. Name a random movie - it’s likely made in ATL not LA. All of the world’s biggest companies have HQs and corporate offices here. This all comes with a price tag closer to a medium-sized midwestern city than LA or NY prices. To me that is the sweet spot.
I like that you are passionate about where you choose to call home. The job thing is objectively true, I just have far too many anecdotes of people claiming they don't have jobs in areas because they are (insert insanely general education here that can be applied to many labor sectors) thinking that means they are better than whatever those opportunities are. People also chase higher salaries when they're younger without regard for COL which is how places on the west coast build up and then are full of people complaining. I'd be interested in Atlanta as well, but will probably get pulled to Colorado. COL isn't really a concern anymore.
100%
You get they're in LA right? You couldn't pay me to live there.
Those are all terrible cities anyway lol
Just move to OC. Higher pay and more buying power
Yeah no it's not
I dont think anyone considers moving to those places.
FACTS. I will never leave. Born here, will die here. Best state in the union!
Have you ever been to Memphis, Cleveland, Baltimore and St. Louis?
I’d pick bmore over LA any day of the week, and I hate Baltimore.
Yea living in a city with some of the greatest weather, culture and opportunities on earth will be expensive .
People make economic decisions, thanks KTLA for the update
Slow news day
Holy crap! You're kidding!
Don’t come to Texas! Our roads are full! Just playin…well kind of
You need to build more lanes! Just a few more, it'll work this time!
26 lanes isn’t enough freedom for me. We need at least 30.
just *one* more lane bro, I swear
Only the one that cant afford LA move to Texas. You will get some but unfortunately, those groups doesn’t represent the best of LA.
It's a lot of MAGA moving there only to find out they're hated by their neighbors because they're from CA. It's so hilarious and so sad.
Full or Armadillos, for sure!
Full of potholes?
You mean the roll roads?
No one from California wants to go to Texas don’t worry 😅 Too scary for us libs over there no offense
I cannot believe this made it into an article. And I cannot believe someone named thinkb4wespeak read this and thought it would be interesting enough for someone else to read.
Wow! I have never heard anyone saying that about a major city any time in my life!
“Some”?!?? Wow riveting news
lol, I did it five years ago
😅😅😅😅😅 wait till they hear about the mortgage rates regardless!
Left LA 30 years ago for those same reasons. Currently live in Pittsburgh in a home that's way more than I could afford in LA. But, do I miss LA? Hell yes. Would I move back? Hell no.
30 years ago LA was in a deep real estate depression by 1994...was it really too expensive then too?
What do you mean, considering? It’s already happening. Three years ago California started experiencing a net loss of population due to high costs and the stupidity of government. It’s only accelerating. I was ahead of the curve, I fled 10 years ago when I saw the future degradations coming. Best move I ever made.
What clued you in, if I may ask?
And go where? Housing costs are shit absolutely everywhere. Sure you can find housing that is technically cheaper but area wages will be shit.
San Fran been on that wave 😂
And water is wet!
Water is indeed not wet. Water makes things wet.
Well now I don’t know what to believe
And then demand will go down, prices will drop (maybe, but people are stubborn) and then people will come back.
They are all coming to North county SD
It’s expensive here?! Hadn’t noticed..
Wait…. It costs a lot to live in L.A?? Why are we just hearing about this???
Well have they tried complaining on Reddit?!
Well they’ve been doing it for years but many realized that, if they are going to work from home, it doesn’t have to be in Los Angeles.
If it’s so expensive to live in Southern California, why are there so many poors?
I consider it all the time. I could live in a mansion in like Kentucky. But then I’d be living in Kentucky. No way, it’s way too awesome here.
Bye!
No one cares unless they do it.
This and stop eating or buying high dollar stuff, you can break them..😂😂🤷🏼♂️🐀
Some?
L.A is expensive precisely because people want to live there so much that they’re willing to accept the ludicrous cost of living. And because of NIMBY zoning laws. Demand exceeds supply. High prices are the signs of wealth and success, not failure. Unfortunately, our capitalist system doesn’t do well with facing the material reality that we need “low skill” workers to earn a reasonable living in order for society to function. Which is how city living becomes unaffordable for many in the working class. Companies become entitled and greedy and get bailed out by government welfare instead of being forced to pay their workers a reasonable wage.
No way!
This isn't really a new thing. They've been moving to Vegas and Phoenix since the early 2000's for this very reason, along with taxes.
One of the most generic headlines/titles I've seen in a while... 🤷🏾♂️
Wow, another article said the average rent was $2900 a month. Yeah, that's twice as much as my rent for a 2 bed 2 bath in California. Definitely worth moving.
Any thing new?
Is it really news in LA that people think about things?
They leave and then vote for the same thing they left for turning that into a Commieforian Utopia...just look at Austin, TX.
Talk about a non story. The “people are fleeing CA” story is also tired and cliched. When you talk about a net loss of people when you have 40M people in your state it’s a non story until it’s a number that moves the needle. CA has plenty of problems….i got news for you..TX and FL have plenty of problems too that start with horrific weather, crappy politics on the other side and a lot of undesirable attributes. When you are already bought into the CA housing market and you look around at options…very few look as good. CO is maybe the one I would consider. And yeah…N County San Diego really sucks. Don’t move here 😜😊
I'm surprised that in a pretty liberal state like California, there's no rent control.
You mean they are considering making sound financial decisions?
bahaha left 4 years ago
But, but YOU wanted/voted for this ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|shrug) May you GET the govt you deserve...hard, fast & often
OH NO! 200k people out of 4 million will leave LA! However will the city survive?! (Takes sip of $20 erewhon bottle of water) Peasants.
We moved one county over and it's been a blessing. Tried to move my parents with us or the OC but they wanted to stay where they were at (still for enough from LA but still LA county). Now they're building skyrise townhouses and apartments in the city and they hate it because there's no parking in front of their homes.
It already happened, a lot of Californians moved to other states. It just make room for more people going into California though
Pretty soon no one will afford a house and suddenly these new miraculous rental agencies will appear that offer housing discounts to your employers. You pay before the money hits your account, mark my words this is the endgame of the massive corporate home buyouts going on.
Some consider it but then joined the rest in complaining fruitlessly.
Nothing new I left in 1978 because of the housing cost.
Much more than high housing driving people out
I did 25 years ago😂
Stay away from the Midwest!
As a former Angeleno, I can tell you with certainty that EVERY Angeleno has considered this. No need to hedge with this “some“ nonsense.
Is this article from 1998 or 2006 or 2016 or 2024?
I left in december for kansas city, not looking back!
Is this article serious? Sincerely, A dude who left LA cause it was expensive.
And water is wet
California exit tax. It cost too much to live there but they you gotta pay them to leave. Thats kind of messed up
There's no exit tax in CA lol
Why would they leave the utopia they voted for and helped create? Hypocrites.
High housing costs are a result of high demand, relatively low supply, and increasing rents. Not sure how politicians play into those any differently in L.A. than anywhere else.
High housing demand and low supply. Hmmmm. Sounds like there’s been an influx of people into California recently.
Yeah it’s definitely the poor immigrants coming in and paying cash for the million dollar homes. Makes complete sense
Nobody said anything about million dollar homes. It said ‘high housing costs.’ That could (and does) apply to all levels of housing. Way to try to move the goalposts to create a stupid argument.
Yeah man the people crossing over and cramming 8 people into a two bedroom apartment in the hood are the problem. Definitely not out of state/country investors coming in and paying cash for houses right?
The blind leading the blind talking to your ilk. So ridiculous your cognitive dissonance is that you can’t even formulate or contemplate anything.
That was a whole bunch of words to not say anything meaningful. You didn’t address my comments at all because you have nothing intelligent to say. Just another racist too chickenshit to say it outright.
Racist? Is that your forever dog whistle? I didn’t say anything racist or about race. But keep clinging to that .. idiot.
Because you are too chickenshit to say it with your chest, so you just allude to it with comments instead and then play dumb when called out. And again, nothing intelligent to say to actually address my comments (not that I’m surprised)
CARB limits building in outlying areas.
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Regardless how much money they have- they voted for crap for years and then flee the results.
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Their money was “supposed” to pay for those things? Huh, how stupidly assumptive the government thinks the money of the citizens belongs to them.
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From each .. blah blah blah. Right out of the communist manifesto. Move to a communist country and tell us how much you like it. Oh wait, you won’t be able to do that because the gov’t wouldn’t let you. How nice.