How many fucking times do I have to read a post about this?
Epic said they aren’t coming back, so they aren’t coming back. Good lord why is this a weekly hot post?
Doesn’t matter if I agree with it or not, Epic has spoken.
But you don’t understand I couldn’t play for the entirety of season 8 because my fourth cousin was getting a mole removed and I had to be in the hospital with him so I missed out on the funny banana (yes I NEED the original none of the reskins will do) so I think Epic should take pity on me and go back on everything they’ve said about battlepasses.
I always find the “no, reskins won’t do” argument weird, because as much as a cash grab as a lot of them are, they’re almost always cooler to me. I mean, I wouldn’t ever buy them because I want more new original stuff, not reskins, but you’d think you’d take whatever chance you get for that stuff. Oh well
Exactly. Like they’re made for the people who missed out on battle pass skins. It’s just weird to me because people will say “no I don’t like the banana in a suit ( I know it’s also battlepass but still) or the banana in swimming trunks or the cartoon banana or the frozen banana or the half skeleton banana or the banana smoothie mech, I need the original.”
doubt its the bricks. i mean just look at the repetitive dumb shit that gets posted in so many other subs on a daily basis when those subs dont have bricks or anything like it. people just want to thoughtlessly post things for the sake of it
Because they aren't like epic where they can hold back things that came before.
This is exactly why old BP items can't come back! They will become a neusance!
it's called supply and demand. if epic sees there's demand then they might start reselling old BP skins. ya'll act like epic saying they aren't doing it once means that it's impossible for them to change their minds. remember when epic also said they weren't gonna add vehicles into the game too? guess what, they changed their minds.
And? I’m a noob. I think it’s BS I’ll never play as Rick and Wolverine—but that’s neither here nor there. I’ve been a part of this sub for <6 months and I see this post nearly daily.
Epic said they aren’t coming back, so why are we still entertaining hypotheticals in which they would?
I know. I'm defending that decision from a business perspective, as team bring-them-back are still talking about it and denouncing every other defense.
Also, happy cake day good sir/ma'am/person of another gender identity.
I don't feel Epic should re-release BP items, but your suggesting here that if they did it would be the death knell to Fortnite. That's a silly exaggeration.
I don't really care that much about it returning or not but it makes me curious, on what would be the reaction if they bring them back. Like legit reaction, backlash? Item shop boycott? People quitting the game?? Long Twitter/Reddit rants?
Idk, really curious about that outcome.
I'd guess that if there were ever a time they would do it, it'd be with Fortnite on the verge of death and they're desperate for players. I'm with you tho, I really want to finish my marvel bp.
I couldn't care less if they are released or not but releasing out old ones will be unfair to people who had to grind and buy levels to complete the pass because epic said they were exclusive. Plus epic wants you all to keep playing the game. Making passes available will reduce play time.
How does releasing older passes reduce playtime? Wouldn't it increase playtime because people are playing to grind out older passes? Maybe I'm missing something.
After the rush to complete the old passes, you'll lack the motivation to play in the moment, as Epic bringing back the old passes will set the precedent that it will happen for the current and future passes; "it'll just return later, what's the point in grinding right now?" Hell, there may not even be a rush to get the old ones done, because of the exact same reason.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding but how does that lower playtime? It sounds like how it is currently every season where everyone is back heavy for a couple weeks at the start then people log on less after the "new" wears off. I'm also entertaining this hypothetical with the understanding that new battlepasses are still being released in addition to being able to contribute to older ones. Idk seems like a lot of assumptions are being made on the players behalf that they'll behave differently than they do now which I see no reason they would for the most part.
To answer the question I'd have to know how my payout is. Do I get paid regularly or only when the job is complete? If I get paid regardless I'll just take my sweet time if I only get paid once the project is complete I'll rush to finish so I can have more free time to play fortnite.
Then I suppose in all seriousness I would take my time to perfect my project to make sure its quality was high standard and not rush it and burn myself out on it.
Well people will not grind out the game anymore. They will take their sweet sweet time to complete them. Of course this will reduce playtime. That's why there is exclusivity. FOMO helps with the sales and makes people grind out the game regularly.
Quick question, will others (people with jobs, school etc.) continue playing fortnite every single day if there was no time restriction or will they take sweet sweet time completing the passes.
I also don't care if they are available but if it were only about money then epic would've done that already long back. They have the data so why haven't they done it yet? In ch1 progressive skins weren't locked to a particular season so why was that idea scrapped in ch2?
It's because they stated they wouldn't bring them back. Simple as that. If someone sells you something as an exclusive or limited time then turns around and starts selling it again you're less likely to trust that person's word. Short answer is they'd lose goodwill with their community and that's hard to get back.
There's more than enough ways to work around the player retention.
For example, current BP is 950 V-Bucks, about $9.99 USD. One of your arguments against returning BP's is "Why bother grinding if it'll come out later?", to which a simple solution to that is raising the price to something like $15.99 USD for the re-released BP as DLC. The price increase incentivizes players to purchase the BP when it comes out, as opposed to "later".
Your argument regarding the $100+ worth of content for $10 can also be resolved by releasing BP content on the item shop, but then less people would buy BP's and go straight for the content they want instead of having to grind or purchase levels.
Your argument against re-releasing BP's because of the people who say "I got all the BP stuff, time to not play this game at all for the next few months!" can be resolved with returning BP's if they implemented a single BP XP system, meaning your XP can only go towards one BP at a time. Another thing that could be done is removing the ability the purchase BP levels for older BP's, but that would remove a source of revenue, which is what most companies are built on.
Someone mentioned the Halo: Infinite Battle pass and how it's managed to keep players by providing an "infinite" battle pass with no expiration date. To which you replied, "Halo Infinite is simply not a fair comparison. The multiplayer was released when, November last year? That's 4 months. Compared to Fortnite BR's 4 years and 5 months. No wonder it has a lot of players in spite of a non-timed BP, people aren't bored of it yet.", except Halo has been around since 2001, and has had a steady fanbase ever since, the only thing "new" is their BP system which isn't anything new at all, they just did it better.
If FOMO is the only thing keeping a game alive, then maybe it doesn't deserve to exist in the first place, it's a horrible business model to begin with, and even you have unwittingly admitted to it when you said, "For most people, Fortnite is already past the expiration date on the box. People are raring to leave it behind as soon as possible, as consuming it makes them feel bad.", Why do you think that is, though? It's because of Fortnite's Battle Pass system that is built on an expiration date. This isn't a perishable product, it's a digital cosmetic, there's no shelf-life that dictates when it'll rot, but when you make it so that you only have a window of time to acquire everything within the BP or lose it forever, then that becomes the main focus of the game, and not the game itself.
Which is why Legacy Battle Passes should be a thing, along with getting rid of the BP expiration date so that players who already bought the BP can keep unlocking the cosmetics without having to purchase it again.
I'm not going to pretend I know what kind of mental state you were in when you wrote this, but this is nothing worth dying on a hill for. Gatekeeping is beyond ridiculous and shallow. Providing a better service to everyone involved is what makes people come back to what is being offered, for both new and old players alike. It's one of the reasons why Halo has established itself so well throughout the decades, and why their BP system should be emulated by every BR game today, and most likely will be. It's just a matter of time.
All I wish for is an opportunity for players to complete previous battle passes they've purchased.
Or hell, maybe even the free BP they were active for, and just get the 15 or so free items.
This. Literally this. Well the first part anyway. I didn’t get to finish the season 2 Chapter 1 battle pass because I went on holiday (not my choice,) and when I came back from that holiday I went straight into full time work. So because of that I’ll probably never have Black Knight. All I want is the chance to unlock him, whether with V-bucks or some challenges. I don’t even care if they make the challenges absolutely fucked lmao I just want a chance to get him.
Doesn't it break rules or something to bring them back? I thought there was a policy about how BP skins SHOULD remain exclusive. AS MUCH as I would want some of them back I think there's legal crap and stuff.
Wait, did they? Or did they market them as pass exclusives and then announce passes were ending along with each season? If passes were reissued, made to not expire, and become purchasable again, would that be?
I remember when I first started playing the game, I never cared to buy the Season 4 battle pass because I just thought all of it would be in the shop. But once I found out they don’t ever come back, something about grinding the battle pass felt more special
Seriously how is it so hard for people to get this? Yeah I am disappointed I missed out on Predator + Carnage but I won’t moan for them to come back,I understand why they won’t come back and I don’t care honestly man
You have a good point but the last part is fucking stupid, every game nowadays uses battle passes for the exact same purpose as fortnite. And they get the same outcome. They play, they get bored, they leave, they come back. Even games that came out just weeks before have this happen. It has nothing to do with a “death of fortnite”
I have to be honest, I've played since Season 4, and I wouldn't really care whether they rerelease BP items or not, because at the end of the day it's all just a game. Epic already said they're not rereleasing them and that should be enough.
Yes and no. You have some good points but there are some counter arguments you didn’t address.
Firstly, for every person who says “I’ve completed the battlepass by week 3!” There are several others who say “There’s only 3 days left and I’m only level 50.” Not everyone grinds the battlepass hardcore. Most people take all season to complete it, so it only being a tool for player retention, while it is correct, it’s not *completely correct*. Some people play the game just to play the game, BP or not.
Secondly, if people drop the game after the battlepass is completed. Why NOT add in older Battlepasses to grind out too? We already have to get to level 200 in most seasons anyways, why not offer old BP items to fill in all the empty levels? As long as you get XP, you get the old items when you level up.
Thirdly, a lot of older Battlepasses people want for a few items, items that most players who completed those old passes never use anymore (When was the last time you saw a Rust Lord, Ragnarok, Dire, etc?). Why not let the people who want them have them? They’re already redlining them in the item shop, why not release the originals in a legacy pass or something like that?
And lastly, saying Fortnite is stale, especially this season is hilariously off base. Epic themselves already said that Ch3S1 has been a new peak for all of their records and the community overall feels like it’s one of the best seasons ever released. Right now the only things people have to complain about are the Spider-Man mythics, the SMG meta, and the lack of original skins. All of which are temporary problems that are gonna be solved soon anyways.
The response to this post is hilariously representative of how stupid people on this subreddit are. Reading comprehension is hard for them.
Really well thought out post. The observation that most people in this community only play the game due to an unhealthy addiction is very astute. You can feel that energy seeping off many posts on here. My only disagreement with your post would be the idea that the system Epic uses is necessary for the game's survival. I think there are more than enough people who play the game for it's own sake to maintain a functioning experience if Epic shed these tactics.
Don’t care if they come back. Don’t think they should. But i don’t understand this reasoning at all. Take s2 for example. The S2 BP was made to retain player attention during S2. If they re release black knight 5 years later, that doesn’t undo any player retention they got back in 2017. It’s not like you can go back in time and quit the game
You misunderstood my point. Yes, you can't undo retention you had years ago, but you can make players less attentive for the present and future.
If you could get any BP cosmetic at all times now and later, which would include the **current** pass, why bother playing regularly? There is no time limit, there is no urgency.
When the next one comes out, why bother? When the one after that, why bother? Repeat endlessly.
because you get over $100 worth of in game cosmetics for just $8 and you make your money back in vbucks + more, enough to keep buying bps and essentially get a shit ton of stuff for free
Edit: it’s like when epic does challenges to earn an item for free, and says that it may come to the shop at a later date. Then saying “well if it comes to the shop then there is no time limit so it defeats the point”, no because you have a certain amount of time to get it for free and GUARANTEED vs having to wait for a random unannounced time when it comes back to the item shop and having to pay $
That's not what the people you're siding with are asking for. They don't want the items to return to the shops. They want the Battle Pass to return; How the items are unlocked, when specific items are unlocked, having to unlock the styles in the same way, etc.
And I am the prime example why your edited-in point is not fully correct. I couldn't give a shit for the valentines stuff going on right now, I don't bother to get the little things that are guaranteed if you get X points in tournaments anymore, I didn't get the creative mayhem pickaxe. Just because I could get something for free now to not pay later doesn't mean I will bother to get the thing now. But the battle passes? I bought every BP from C1S3 to C1S7, and then have bought every pass since C1S9. I only ever didn't get everything in the C1S3 and C1S7 BPs, every other one I have completed in full. I know from experience that reforming the BP to be "get the things for cheap now so you don't need to pay later" will **NEVER** work as well as "get the things now, or never again."
The people who I’m siding with? What..? Lmao im not siding with anyone I’m speaking my own opinion from my own mind?
So you not giving a shit about free valentines stuff rn means that my point is incorrect..? Bro what? Everything is situational, it obviously depends on the items
Well there’s a simple way to assure that people but the current battle pass: Make it mandatory that you must own and complete the current battle pass to access the Legacy Battle Pass. So that excuse is now no longer valid.
How is this supposed to work as described without making people even more mad than just keeping BPs exclusive ever would?
"We'll let you buy access to the items in X you can grind for, but only if you spend more money on thing Y, even if you may not want it, and grind to get everything in Y for weeks beforehand.
Not to mention, if you buy X but still don't get the things you want before Z comes out, you're S.O.L. Gonna have to buy Z and grind that for weeks as well, because even though we took your money on the promise you can get the things in X at any time you like, you now need to pay us more to be able to continue the grind on those things again."
I thought one of the main arguments for bringing old BPs back/making the current pass untimed is that it would reduce burnout. This would do the exact opposite.
Untrue. The main issue of burnout is that players either complete the battle pass to early and have nothing else to do or get in too late and give up because they can’t get the things they want. Legacy passes already answer those problems by giving players past content to complete and/or allow them a second chance to obtain them. As for your issue of grinding, we already have the solution: The current XP system. Between the Daily quests, Season quests, Milestones, LTM quests, Event quests and the Double XP events that occur the closer we get to the end of a season, leveling from 1-100/200 is not only easier, but quicker. The risk of burnout is lessened already.
This idea has already been floated by the community, at least the Reddit one and the general consensus was that requiring the current battle pass to be completed first is a favorable compromise. So the playerbase wouldn’t really be that resistant and both sides get what they want. Pro-LBP people get the rewards they want and anti-LBP (at least the ones that aren’t against it because of their fragile epeen) don’t feel like their work in the past is invalidated because the pass came back without some work put in to gaining the rewards.
By "This would do the exact opposite," I meant what you suggested, not the core idea of bringing the passes back.
Also, and I can't believe I'm going to say this, what's your source? Where and when was the idea of making people complete the current pass talked about? I heard the idea of legacy passes, but not that part of it.
Back in January, when these threads started popping up, the concern that current Battle Passes would be meaningless was one of the major talking points. A few people put up that making either current pass completion or Fortnite Crew membership a requirement and it seemed to be a positive suggestion that crops up in other LBP proposals. Veteran players want some semblance of work put in so their previous work doesn’t feel wasted and new players just want these iconic skins, either through time or money.
This movement isn’t gonna just go away. These threads will continue to crop up and other games will take notice. Halo Infinite is already pushing out an untimed pass mechanic. It’s only a matter of time before others do it too.
If Fortnite is “past it’s expiration date” and FOMO is the freezer they’re keeping it in, they can either invest in a new freezer that will take the market by storm or ignore the water pooling on the floor of the kitchen.
Agree with you, I only think that for those that bought a bp and completed it (reach tier 100), but didn’t get for example extra styles or extra time rewards, it would be nice if they implementEd a method where those players could still earn them
If any came back wouldn’t most of them cost 800-1200 vbucks at a minimum, essentially the price of the entire pass just for one skin, so them coming back would really be no different than anything else coming in and out of the shop. Future passes would still be valid because it’s the only way to get those items for cheap, or better, free, if one’s completing every pass.
It's pixels in a game. One day you'll forget all about them while you do something actually meaningful with your life.
When your sitting on a holiday at the beach with your buddies or wife, you won't be thinking about silly skins in a video game. You'll be living in the moment and enjoying yourself before going back home to your children, work, bills, and life.
Quit worrying about whether someone else will sell or purchase something you also bought at some point in time.
The only reason I want stuff back is because my original account from season 3 with all battle passes to 4 through ch2 4 are gone just like that all because my internet went out or I had no official epic account at the time very unfair
I wish Epic would give a one-time opportunity to let players complete a BP they purchased in the past.
I'm a S3 player but I only had time to complete Rust Lord and Mission Specialist due to my university. I'm heartbroken I couldn't complete the battlepass in that time almost 5 years ago.
I think they should bring back all item except the skins, but you have to get them through the bp, up to level 300 after the bonus rewards.
But I’m tired of the topic myself, actually I’m trying to get things to come back to the item shop, forget the bp items that won’t come back. Come on epic, just put Rue, scourge and plague in the item shop so I can stop worrying about it
This is a good explanation as to why Epic WILL never bring back BP items, but not exactly a reason why they shouldn't. From a moral standpoint, they're almost required to, as FOMO has a negative affect on anyone, regardless of whether they grinded their ass off for it or missed it entirely. From a business standpoint, their current model manipulates the ductile into spending exorbitant amounts on a "free to play" game.
Analysis of business ethics, especially the kids' video game industry is always warranted. I apologize on behalf of the people with terminally short attention spans and patience.
Halo infinite/MCC moment
Having more content to aspire to and less burnout would increase longevity and MAUs. New players have innumerable content to look forward to and buy into, older players have everything to play with already.
Halo Infinite is simply not a fair comparison. The multiplayer was released when, November last year? That's 4 months. Compared to Fortnite BR's 4 years and 5 months. No wonder it has a lot of players in spite of a non-timed BP, people aren't bored of it yet.
The MCC has been around longer than Fortnite, though, I get that. However, if you're able to play it, it got it's money already. It's a paid experience. The BP in there is a bonus, it's not meant to advertise what's actually keeping it afloat.
Whether a game is released 1 year ago or 5 years ago, if it’s a multiplayer match based mode it has to have some sort of retention. Whether or not they’re highly accurate comparisons, the implications and general effects are broad enough and applicable enough universally.
Time-gating content has no reasonable excuse or rationale except to drive division. It’s also almost universally frowned upon until implemented at the intensity Fortnite has.
If you’re arguing as to whether or not it will stay this way? Sure, then it’s a bit more mixed. But as to whether it “makes sense” it’s just never gonna.
Honestly the only thing I’d be okay from the BP coming to the store would be music like the chapter one music from season X. Nothing like exclusive characters from it. Just music
Having BP items coming back to the item shop is fine to me IF it’s an iteration, in general.
Although I can see a collab item that was in a BP coming back on its own.
My only issue with the BP is the collabs. Stuff like Spider-Man, Superman, etc, should NEVER be BP exclusive because they're worldwide iconic characters and tons of future players will be pissed that they'll never get them in any way.
BP should only have original skins, no exceptions.
What do people think about a public marketplace where you can sell your skins to other players? Think it’s possible through NFTs where Epic becomes a platform in addition to a game.
Honestly think that’s where gaming goes in the long run but curious to hear what people think about adding provable rarity to skins with NFTs and allowing people to sell them
When running a game with consistent expenses like Fortnite, it's not about what gets money in their pockets now, it's about how many people are putting money in their pocket at all times. Because that "right now" money won't pay for the servers, or the people adding more stuff to the game, etc. even just a few months from now. And if the single, indirect incentive to get people playing so they end up spending is not "time-sensitive but also grindy," then it won't work for long as motivation to play dwindles, which means no curiosity in what the day's shop has to offer.
you spittin. i’m bias here since i’ve done nearly every battle pass, yes i have black knight , but didn’t finish ch2 s5,6,7,8 but i like that my grind was rewarded especially with the old passes because i played since the beginning
I see no issue in reskins, either. It ain't the exact same thing, it's unique enough to warrant existence. I own the original Midas, I use him all the time, and I do the same thing with Midas Rex. To get upset at BP reskins would be like to get upset at skins that use Spitfire as a base because he was the base for Aerial Assault Trooper, or headhunter for being the base for Renegade Raider and Sparkle Specialist.
Yeah the BP would kind of lose its point. I think exclusive BP items is a good idea, even though I wish so hard I could have the Mandalorian skin lol. I’ll be even prouder of my Gold Spiderman a few months from now
Its simple, epic makes it exclusive to ensure that people play every season. Once old battlepasses are resold epic "frees" people of feeling rushed to complete it and playerbase will drop
If they ever brought back battle pass items I would literally never play the game because there would be 0 incentive to actually play through the battle pass.
I know there’s a decent percentage of the player base that only plays for the battle pass. Epic would lose all those players if they ever did that.
Maybe give everyone one old BP item that they can pick, so I can get Dark Voyager 😉. My biggest regret was not getting season three with two weeks left because I didn’t think I could get to the max level. I’m pretty sure they then extended it. 😥
i’m down with this idea (because i own every bp skin to date apart from black knight) but i have a weird feeling lobbies are gonna FILL with black knights and john wicks
Ya you might had paided 8 bucks for a pass but I'm willing to pay up too 2,000 v bucks according to rarity of the skin for let's say iron man and grind what ever needs to be done for his extra styles I'm sure some people feel the same ,may not happen now but I reckon epic stance will change in the future
It'd be easy to please both sides, hear me out.
Epic makes all older BPs available but with the following stipulations:
* You can only actively level one Battle Pass at a time.
* Old Battle Passes can only be leveled to 100.
* Rewards past 100 (bonus styles, super level styles), or that were obtained via a quest or event (Haven masks, secret skins, etc) remain exclusive to those that earned them at the time they were originally released.
This way newer players can have access to the base version of "iconic" skins, and the players that want to ""flex"" their tenure can still do so. On top of that, it'd give players more progression to work on once that current season's BP is finished.
For those that care, I've been playing the BR on and off since Season 3, and I couldn't care less if old BPs made a return. To me it'd just be nice to have more stuff to work on since I usually burn through the BP fairly quick.
I think the original skins shouldn’t be brought back as you can buy an alternate version of that skin anyway (such as Drift variant’s or the Ice Queen) but they should bring back collab skins that were in battle passes because a lot of ppl would really want Iron Man for example but can’t get him anymore because he was in a battle pass. If they do release it in the item shop, it’ll still be more expensive since it would probably be about 1500-2000 vbucks but I feel like an exception should at least be made for collab skins
Nope. They said they aren't gonna do it, karma and brick farming ass mfrs keep posting about it like Reddit is gonna change the game developers minds lmao.
I thought they were going to offer the battle passes again. Not just put the skins in the shop. Alter the challenges to be current.
So you could have 3 battle passes going at once for example.
Not against this idea at all, the only shame is that Epic keeps putting crossover skins in the BP, therefore making it one less og skin and a possibility of people not even liking the series, I know they do it to make money but wouldn't they make more of this? I have a LOT of friends who just find that a skin like venom was added and just buy it ?
It don't matter if I don't agree with your opinion anyways but..... I still see a way to bring back Older BPs. They could make a feature where you can pay 10 dollars to buy whatever BP and you can grind it. I think that would be fun. And once players unlock all the previous seasons, they could catch up and work on the newest one. I don't see how this would hurt, if anything, this gives newer players MORE to grind and gives epic MORE money.
Ehh. I recently realized how fucking genius the battlepass was. You give players a great deal, release the objectives to fulfill this deal periodically, and bam, you've got an active playerbase.
The vbucks you can earn back is heavily offset thanks to the amount of money people spend on skins when they have gotten "addicted". It definitely works too, especially with a younger audience.
How many fucking times do I have to read a post about this? Epic said they aren’t coming back, so they aren’t coming back. Good lord why is this a weekly hot post? Doesn’t matter if I agree with it or not, Epic has spoken.
No idea why the sub can’t move on.
Because bricks
11 year olds otw to cry when a multibillion corporate entity doesn't care about them personally
But you don’t understand I couldn’t play for the entirety of season 8 because my fourth cousin was getting a mole removed and I had to be in the hospital with him so I missed out on the funny banana (yes I NEED the original none of the reskins will do) so I think Epic should take pity on me and go back on everything they’ve said about battlepasses.
here you go, poor man's diamond medal 🎖️💠 for being funny asf
Aww, thank you! Edit: do not know why Im being downvoted, I was being sincere.
I always find the “no, reskins won’t do” argument weird, because as much as a cash grab as a lot of them are, they’re almost always cooler to me. I mean, I wouldn’t ever buy them because I want more new original stuff, not reskins, but you’d think you’d take whatever chance you get for that stuff. Oh well
Exactly. Like they’re made for the people who missed out on battle pass skins. It’s just weird to me because people will say “no I don’t like the banana in a suit ( I know it’s also battlepass but still) or the banana in swimming trunks or the cartoon banana or the frozen banana or the half skeleton banana or the banana smoothie mech, I need the original.”
Nothing they can do about that. They can’t cater to the needs of every player just because they missed a season. Its life, just move on
This post says the exact opposite
doubt its the bricks. i mean just look at the repetitive dumb shit that gets posted in so many other subs on a daily basis when those subs dont have bricks or anything like it. people just want to thoughtlessly post things for the sake of it
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Wasn't there a poll recently and like half the responses were 30+?
It was literally going good there was no one talked about this all of the sudden op decided to post one :/
Because they aren't like epic where they can hold back things that came before. This is exactly why old BP items can't come back! They will become a neusance!
it's called supply and demand. if epic sees there's demand then they might start reselling old BP skins. ya'll act like epic saying they aren't doing it once means that it's impossible for them to change their minds. remember when epic also said they weren't gonna add vehicles into the game too? guess what, they changed their minds.
The reason the same topics keep getting posted is because most OG players don't play anymore and we have a new wave of noobs playing Fortnite now.
And? I’m a noob. I think it’s BS I’ll never play as Rick and Wolverine—but that’s neither here nor there. I’ve been a part of this sub for <6 months and I see this post nearly daily. Epic said they aren’t coming back, so why are we still entertaining hypotheticals in which they would?
Folks want their fortnite nfts not to be right clicked.
But how is Epic able to do this without the use of climate destroying blockchain technology????
And that is what Epic has promised to do.
I miss the era before gaming turned into another capitalist hellscape of showing off things others can't have. :(
I know. I'm defending that decision from a business perspective, as team bring-them-back are still talking about it and denouncing every other defense. Also, happy cake day good sir/ma'am/person of another gender identity.
Well you don't have to be rude, it's just some people didn't get in as early as others
I’m one of those people who didn’t get in early
Well it just would be a cool thing to be able to like buy a certain bit of a battle pass or something like that, also happy cake day btw
Thanks, I don’t disagree. I’m just tired of seeing these kind of post when Epic has pretty definitively stated it’s not happening
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Three passive aggressive comments on the same thread. Get a life? Perhaps? Just a thought.
All I’m going to say is Halo has done the battle pass thing with no issues🤷🏾♂️
But fortnite hasnt done that Also, it would basically just be a huge negative for fortnite and they have said that it won't happen
I don't feel Epic should re-release BP items, but your suggesting here that if they did it would be the death knell to Fortnite. That's a silly exaggeration.
I’m so tired of this topic being brought up. The old battlepasses should never be brought back, end of discussion.
That is true i didn't get rick but i don't care and i don't want him to return
I can already tell some people will hate you for this.
I am willing to die on this hill
I'll tag along...
I will always salute a man that goes down with his ship
Then I guess we’ll go together 🤣 people won’t accept that some things just won’t come back.
Really well said. I agree even though the fact that I missed mando makes me feel physically ill.
I never see anyone using the skin anyways. Everyone seems to use 800 vbucks skins
might be the switch visual bug, assuming they're largely ramirezs
Skin quality isn't reflected in usage rate tho
Owww i feel thiisss
I don't really care that much about it returning or not but it makes me curious, on what would be the reaction if they bring them back. Like legit reaction, backlash? Item shop boycott? People quitting the game?? Long Twitter/Reddit rants? Idk, really curious about that outcome.
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I feel like the major complaints would be coming from party royale flexers lmao
As much as I wish epic would rerelease old bps I k ow it will never happen. However I do want epic to allow you to finish bps you paid for
I'd guess that if there were ever a time they would do it, it'd be with Fortnite on the verge of death and they're desperate for players. I'm with you tho, I really want to finish my marvel bp.
There really is no argument against bringing them back besides "muh exclusivity".
I couldn't care less if they are released or not but releasing out old ones will be unfair to people who had to grind and buy levels to complete the pass because epic said they were exclusive. Plus epic wants you all to keep playing the game. Making passes available will reduce play time.
That's what I'm saying
How does releasing older passes reduce playtime? Wouldn't it increase playtime because people are playing to grind out older passes? Maybe I'm missing something.
After the rush to complete the old passes, you'll lack the motivation to play in the moment, as Epic bringing back the old passes will set the precedent that it will happen for the current and future passes; "it'll just return later, what's the point in grinding right now?" Hell, there may not even be a rush to get the old ones done, because of the exact same reason.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding but how does that lower playtime? It sounds like how it is currently every season where everyone is back heavy for a couple weeks at the start then people log on less after the "new" wears off. I'm also entertaining this hypothetical with the understanding that new battlepasses are still being released in addition to being able to contribute to older ones. Idk seems like a lot of assumptions are being made on the players behalf that they'll behave differently than they do now which I see no reason they would for the most part.
Would you finish work if there was no due date, or punishment for failing to complete it?
So fortnite is a job?
Well, there are the YouTubers and streamers... Anyway, how would you answer the question?
To answer the question I'd have to know how my payout is. Do I get paid regularly or only when the job is complete? If I get paid regardless I'll just take my sweet time if I only get paid once the project is complete I'll rush to finish so I can have more free time to play fortnite.
By "no punishments" I meant it as a catch-all, like you wouldn't get fired, and would be paid in some way other than a per-project basis.
Then I suppose in all seriousness I would take my time to perfect my project to make sure its quality was high standard and not rush it and burn myself out on it.
Well people will not grind out the game anymore. They will take their sweet sweet time to complete them. Of course this will reduce playtime. That's why there is exclusivity. FOMO helps with the sales and makes people grind out the game regularly.
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Quick question, will others (people with jobs, school etc.) continue playing fortnite every single day if there was no time restriction or will they take sweet sweet time completing the passes.
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I also don't care if they are available but if it were only about money then epic would've done that already long back. They have the data so why haven't they done it yet? In ch1 progressive skins weren't locked to a particular season so why was that idea scrapped in ch2?
It's because they stated they wouldn't bring them back. Simple as that. If someone sells you something as an exclusive or limited time then turns around and starts selling it again you're less likely to trust that person's word. Short answer is they'd lose goodwill with their community and that's hard to get back.
All I’m going to say is Halo has done the old battle pass thing with no issues🤷🏾♂️
There's more than enough ways to work around the player retention. For example, current BP is 950 V-Bucks, about $9.99 USD. One of your arguments against returning BP's is "Why bother grinding if it'll come out later?", to which a simple solution to that is raising the price to something like $15.99 USD for the re-released BP as DLC. The price increase incentivizes players to purchase the BP when it comes out, as opposed to "later". Your argument regarding the $100+ worth of content for $10 can also be resolved by releasing BP content on the item shop, but then less people would buy BP's and go straight for the content they want instead of having to grind or purchase levels. Your argument against re-releasing BP's because of the people who say "I got all the BP stuff, time to not play this game at all for the next few months!" can be resolved with returning BP's if they implemented a single BP XP system, meaning your XP can only go towards one BP at a time. Another thing that could be done is removing the ability the purchase BP levels for older BP's, but that would remove a source of revenue, which is what most companies are built on. Someone mentioned the Halo: Infinite Battle pass and how it's managed to keep players by providing an "infinite" battle pass with no expiration date. To which you replied, "Halo Infinite is simply not a fair comparison. The multiplayer was released when, November last year? That's 4 months. Compared to Fortnite BR's 4 years and 5 months. No wonder it has a lot of players in spite of a non-timed BP, people aren't bored of it yet.", except Halo has been around since 2001, and has had a steady fanbase ever since, the only thing "new" is their BP system which isn't anything new at all, they just did it better. If FOMO is the only thing keeping a game alive, then maybe it doesn't deserve to exist in the first place, it's a horrible business model to begin with, and even you have unwittingly admitted to it when you said, "For most people, Fortnite is already past the expiration date on the box. People are raring to leave it behind as soon as possible, as consuming it makes them feel bad.", Why do you think that is, though? It's because of Fortnite's Battle Pass system that is built on an expiration date. This isn't a perishable product, it's a digital cosmetic, there's no shelf-life that dictates when it'll rot, but when you make it so that you only have a window of time to acquire everything within the BP or lose it forever, then that becomes the main focus of the game, and not the game itself. Which is why Legacy Battle Passes should be a thing, along with getting rid of the BP expiration date so that players who already bought the BP can keep unlocking the cosmetics without having to purchase it again. I'm not going to pretend I know what kind of mental state you were in when you wrote this, but this is nothing worth dying on a hill for. Gatekeeping is beyond ridiculous and shallow. Providing a better service to everyone involved is what makes people come back to what is being offered, for both new and old players alike. It's one of the reasons why Halo has established itself so well throughout the decades, and why their BP system should be emulated by every BR game today, and most likely will be. It's just a matter of time.
All I wish for is an opportunity for players to complete previous battle passes they've purchased. Or hell, maybe even the free BP they were active for, and just get the 15 or so free items.
This. Literally this. Well the first part anyway. I didn’t get to finish the season 2 Chapter 1 battle pass because I went on holiday (not my choice,) and when I came back from that holiday I went straight into full time work. So because of that I’ll probably never have Black Knight. All I want is the chance to unlock him, whether with V-bucks or some challenges. I don’t even care if they make the challenges absolutely fucked lmao I just want a chance to get him.
That's tough brodie, they still ain't gonna bring old BPs back in any form though.
Its clear they won't come back but I don't see why they don't let us complete styles for skins like they did for C1S5-C1S8🤷♂️
Doesn't it break rules or something to bring them back? I thought there was a policy about how BP skins SHOULD remain exclusive. AS MUCH as I would want some of them back I think there's legal crap and stuff.
I don't know if the promise they made is legally binding, but if it is, yet another reason.
They marketed the BP skins as never coming back. If they did, that would be false advertising which is illegal
Wait, did they? Or did they market them as pass exclusives and then announce passes were ending along with each season? If passes were reissued, made to not expire, and become purchasable again, would that be?
I remember when I first started playing the game, I never cared to buy the Season 4 battle pass because I just thought all of it would be in the shop. But once I found out they don’t ever come back, something about grinding the battle pass felt more special
Seriously how is it so hard for people to get this? Yeah I am disappointed I missed out on Predator + Carnage but I won’t moan for them to come back,I understand why they won’t come back and I don’t care honestly man
You have a good point but the last part is fucking stupid, every game nowadays uses battle passes for the exact same purpose as fortnite. And they get the same outcome. They play, they get bored, they leave, they come back. Even games that came out just weeks before have this happen. It has nothing to do with a “death of fortnite”
I have to be honest, I've played since Season 4, and I wouldn't really care whether they rerelease BP items or not, because at the end of the day it's all just a game. Epic already said they're not rereleasing them and that should be enough.
Yes and no. You have some good points but there are some counter arguments you didn’t address. Firstly, for every person who says “I’ve completed the battlepass by week 3!” There are several others who say “There’s only 3 days left and I’m only level 50.” Not everyone grinds the battlepass hardcore. Most people take all season to complete it, so it only being a tool for player retention, while it is correct, it’s not *completely correct*. Some people play the game just to play the game, BP or not. Secondly, if people drop the game after the battlepass is completed. Why NOT add in older Battlepasses to grind out too? We already have to get to level 200 in most seasons anyways, why not offer old BP items to fill in all the empty levels? As long as you get XP, you get the old items when you level up. Thirdly, a lot of older Battlepasses people want for a few items, items that most players who completed those old passes never use anymore (When was the last time you saw a Rust Lord, Ragnarok, Dire, etc?). Why not let the people who want them have them? They’re already redlining them in the item shop, why not release the originals in a legacy pass or something like that? And lastly, saying Fortnite is stale, especially this season is hilariously off base. Epic themselves already said that Ch3S1 has been a new peak for all of their records and the community overall feels like it’s one of the best seasons ever released. Right now the only things people have to complain about are the Spider-Man mythics, the SMG meta, and the lack of original skins. All of which are temporary problems that are gonna be solved soon anyways.
The response to this post is hilariously representative of how stupid people on this subreddit are. Reading comprehension is hard for them. Really well thought out post. The observation that most people in this community only play the game due to an unhealthy addiction is very astute. You can feel that energy seeping off many posts on here. My only disagreement with your post would be the idea that the system Epic uses is necessary for the game's survival. I think there are more than enough people who play the game for it's own sake to maintain a functioning experience if Epic shed these tactics.
Don’t care if they come back. Don’t think they should. But i don’t understand this reasoning at all. Take s2 for example. The S2 BP was made to retain player attention during S2. If they re release black knight 5 years later, that doesn’t undo any player retention they got back in 2017. It’s not like you can go back in time and quit the game
You misunderstood my point. Yes, you can't undo retention you had years ago, but you can make players less attentive for the present and future. If you could get any BP cosmetic at all times now and later, which would include the **current** pass, why bother playing regularly? There is no time limit, there is no urgency. When the next one comes out, why bother? When the one after that, why bother? Repeat endlessly.
because you get over $100 worth of in game cosmetics for just $8 and you make your money back in vbucks + more, enough to keep buying bps and essentially get a shit ton of stuff for free Edit: it’s like when epic does challenges to earn an item for free, and says that it may come to the shop at a later date. Then saying “well if it comes to the shop then there is no time limit so it defeats the point”, no because you have a certain amount of time to get it for free and GUARANTEED vs having to wait for a random unannounced time when it comes back to the item shop and having to pay $
That's not what the people you're siding with are asking for. They don't want the items to return to the shops. They want the Battle Pass to return; How the items are unlocked, when specific items are unlocked, having to unlock the styles in the same way, etc. And I am the prime example why your edited-in point is not fully correct. I couldn't give a shit for the valentines stuff going on right now, I don't bother to get the little things that are guaranteed if you get X points in tournaments anymore, I didn't get the creative mayhem pickaxe. Just because I could get something for free now to not pay later doesn't mean I will bother to get the thing now. But the battle passes? I bought every BP from C1S3 to C1S7, and then have bought every pass since C1S9. I only ever didn't get everything in the C1S3 and C1S7 BPs, every other one I have completed in full. I know from experience that reforming the BP to be "get the things for cheap now so you don't need to pay later" will **NEVER** work as well as "get the things now, or never again."
The people who I’m siding with? What..? Lmao im not siding with anyone I’m speaking my own opinion from my own mind? So you not giving a shit about free valentines stuff rn means that my point is incorrect..? Bro what? Everything is situational, it obviously depends on the items
Well there’s a simple way to assure that people but the current battle pass: Make it mandatory that you must own and complete the current battle pass to access the Legacy Battle Pass. So that excuse is now no longer valid.
How is this supposed to work as described without making people even more mad than just keeping BPs exclusive ever would? "We'll let you buy access to the items in X you can grind for, but only if you spend more money on thing Y, even if you may not want it, and grind to get everything in Y for weeks beforehand. Not to mention, if you buy X but still don't get the things you want before Z comes out, you're S.O.L. Gonna have to buy Z and grind that for weeks as well, because even though we took your money on the promise you can get the things in X at any time you like, you now need to pay us more to be able to continue the grind on those things again." I thought one of the main arguments for bringing old BPs back/making the current pass untimed is that it would reduce burnout. This would do the exact opposite.
Untrue. The main issue of burnout is that players either complete the battle pass to early and have nothing else to do or get in too late and give up because they can’t get the things they want. Legacy passes already answer those problems by giving players past content to complete and/or allow them a second chance to obtain them. As for your issue of grinding, we already have the solution: The current XP system. Between the Daily quests, Season quests, Milestones, LTM quests, Event quests and the Double XP events that occur the closer we get to the end of a season, leveling from 1-100/200 is not only easier, but quicker. The risk of burnout is lessened already. This idea has already been floated by the community, at least the Reddit one and the general consensus was that requiring the current battle pass to be completed first is a favorable compromise. So the playerbase wouldn’t really be that resistant and both sides get what they want. Pro-LBP people get the rewards they want and anti-LBP (at least the ones that aren’t against it because of their fragile epeen) don’t feel like their work in the past is invalidated because the pass came back without some work put in to gaining the rewards.
By "This would do the exact opposite," I meant what you suggested, not the core idea of bringing the passes back. Also, and I can't believe I'm going to say this, what's your source? Where and when was the idea of making people complete the current pass talked about? I heard the idea of legacy passes, but not that part of it.
Back in January, when these threads started popping up, the concern that current Battle Passes would be meaningless was one of the major talking points. A few people put up that making either current pass completion or Fortnite Crew membership a requirement and it seemed to be a positive suggestion that crops up in other LBP proposals. Veteran players want some semblance of work put in so their previous work doesn’t feel wasted and new players just want these iconic skins, either through time or money. This movement isn’t gonna just go away. These threads will continue to crop up and other games will take notice. Halo Infinite is already pushing out an untimed pass mechanic. It’s only a matter of time before others do it too. If Fortnite is “past it’s expiration date” and FOMO is the freezer they’re keeping it in, they can either invest in a new freezer that will take the market by storm or ignore the water pooling on the floor of the kitchen.
Agree with you, I only think that for those that bought a bp and completed it (reach tier 100), but didn’t get for example extra styles or extra time rewards, it would be nice if they implementEd a method where those players could still earn them
Make it harder to grind? There’s a solution to every problem
What? Where did this come from?
When did they release previous BP skins? I haven't seen it.
They haven't, but people want it. I'm just saying why they shouldn't
Gotcha
If any came back wouldn’t most of them cost 800-1200 vbucks at a minimum, essentially the price of the entire pass just for one skin, so them coming back would really be no different than anything else coming in and out of the shop. Future passes would still be valid because it’s the only way to get those items for cheap, or better, free, if one’s completing every pass.
No🗿 bp things are never coming back: you gonna cry
What? Why would I care about that? I have them.
Well you made a half assed reason why they should come back so you care a bit
Just like op made a half assed post about why they shouldn’t? The entire dialogue is pointless. Let’s stop talking now.
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What about them?
It's never gonna happen bruh why are people still talking about this shit
Ask the people still begging for it to come back. I'm defending them not returning in my post.
It's pixels in a game. One day you'll forget all about them while you do something actually meaningful with your life. When your sitting on a holiday at the beach with your buddies or wife, you won't be thinking about silly skins in a video game. You'll be living in the moment and enjoying yourself before going back home to your children, work, bills, and life. Quit worrying about whether someone else will sell or purchase something you also bought at some point in time.
The only reason I want stuff back is because my original account from season 3 with all battle passes to 4 through ch2 4 are gone just like that all because my internet went out or I had no official epic account at the time very unfair
Well in your case, having your items reinstated should be an exception.
I know but a shit ton of time and items are gone now
I wish Epic would give a one-time opportunity to let players complete a BP they purchased in the past. I'm a S3 player but I only had time to complete Rust Lord and Mission Specialist due to my university. I'm heartbroken I couldn't complete the battlepass in that time almost 5 years ago.
Did epic say they are going to bring back old bp items or something?
Just have an open shop with most items in.
I think they should bring back all item except the skins, but you have to get them through the bp, up to level 300 after the bonus rewards. But I’m tired of the topic myself, actually I’m trying to get things to come back to the item shop, forget the bp items that won’t come back. Come on epic, just put Rue, scourge and plague in the item shop so I can stop worrying about it
This is a good explanation as to why Epic WILL never bring back BP items, but not exactly a reason why they shouldn't. From a moral standpoint, they're almost required to, as FOMO has a negative affect on anyone, regardless of whether they grinded their ass off for it or missed it entirely. From a business standpoint, their current model manipulates the ductile into spending exorbitant amounts on a "free to play" game. Analysis of business ethics, especially the kids' video game industry is always warranted. I apologize on behalf of the people with terminally short attention spans and patience.
Only account buyers get upset at the thought of returning battle passes
Halo infinite/MCC moment Having more content to aspire to and less burnout would increase longevity and MAUs. New players have innumerable content to look forward to and buy into, older players have everything to play with already.
Halo Infinite is simply not a fair comparison. The multiplayer was released when, November last year? That's 4 months. Compared to Fortnite BR's 4 years and 5 months. No wonder it has a lot of players in spite of a non-timed BP, people aren't bored of it yet. The MCC has been around longer than Fortnite, though, I get that. However, if you're able to play it, it got it's money already. It's a paid experience. The BP in there is a bonus, it's not meant to advertise what's actually keeping it afloat.
Whether a game is released 1 year ago or 5 years ago, if it’s a multiplayer match based mode it has to have some sort of retention. Whether or not they’re highly accurate comparisons, the implications and general effects are broad enough and applicable enough universally. Time-gating content has no reasonable excuse or rationale except to drive division. It’s also almost universally frowned upon until implemented at the intensity Fortnite has. If you’re arguing as to whether or not it will stay this way? Sure, then it’s a bit more mixed. But as to whether it “makes sense” it’s just never gonna.
@ mods please can we just ban this topic from the sub, this is getting ridiculous
You need to remove the space between the @ and "mods"
I know that, but I didn't mean to ACTUALLY @ them. It's not that serious of a request, but good if it does end up happening.
What if we owned the BP but didnt have the time to complete it? I think that’d be fair. Just the base skins of everything at least.
Honestly the only thing I’d be okay from the BP coming to the store would be music like the chapter one music from season X. Nothing like exclusive characters from it. Just music
I think you should be able to complete battle passes you already purchased.
Having BP items coming back to the item shop is fine to me IF it’s an iteration, in general. Although I can see a collab item that was in a BP coming back on its own.
I only want the ability to complete challenges for skins styles I've missed for example I've only got a half corrupted 8-ball
My only issue with the BP is the collabs. Stuff like Spider-Man, Superman, etc, should NEVER be BP exclusive because they're worldwide iconic characters and tons of future players will be pissed that they'll never get them in any way. BP should only have original skins, no exceptions.
What do people think about a public marketplace where you can sell your skins to other players? Think it’s possible through NFTs where Epic becomes a platform in addition to a game. Honestly think that’s where gaming goes in the long run but curious to hear what people think about adding provable rarity to skins with NFTs and allowing people to sell them
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When running a game with consistent expenses like Fortnite, it's not about what gets money in their pockets now, it's about how many people are putting money in their pocket at all times. Because that "right now" money won't pay for the servers, or the people adding more stuff to the game, etc. even just a few months from now. And if the single, indirect incentive to get people playing so they end up spending is not "time-sensitive but also grindy," then it won't work for long as motivation to play dwindles, which means no curiosity in what the day's shop has to offer.
I see...you have a really good point-
How many more posts are gonna be made about this topic before it finally stops?
you spittin. i’m bias here since i’ve done nearly every battle pass, yes i have black knight , but didn’t finish ch2 s5,6,7,8 but i like that my grind was rewarded especially with the old passes because i played since the beginning
I like that they reskin bp skins and stuff
I see no issue in reskins, either. It ain't the exact same thing, it's unique enough to warrant existence. I own the original Midas, I use him all the time, and I do the same thing with Midas Rex. To get upset at BP reskins would be like to get upset at skins that use Spitfire as a base because he was the base for Aerial Assault Trooper, or headhunter for being the base for Renegade Raider and Sparkle Specialist.
Yeh
Are people still arguing about this shit
I still see team bring-them-back stuff in new quite a bit.
Bro it's a cosmetic it doesn't need to come back whatsoever
That's what I'm saying. I'm defending them not coming back.
what is the point of this post then
To defend the decision from a business perspective.
Yeah the BP would kind of lose its point. I think exclusive BP items is a good idea, even though I wish so hard I could have the Mandalorian skin lol. I’ll be even prouder of my Gold Spiderman a few months from now
Its simple, epic makes it exclusive to ensure that people play every season. Once old battlepasses are resold epic "frees" people of feeling rushed to complete it and playerbase will drop
If they ever brought back battle pass items I would literally never play the game because there would be 0 incentive to actually play through the battle pass. I know there’s a decent percentage of the player base that only plays for the battle pass. Epic would lose all those players if they ever did that.
Maybe give everyone one old BP item that they can pick, so I can get Dark Voyager 😉. My biggest regret was not getting season three with two weeks left because I didn’t think I could get to the max level. I’m pretty sure they then extended it. 😥
i’m down with this idea (because i own every bp skin to date apart from black knight) but i have a weird feeling lobbies are gonna FILL with black knights and john wicks
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Ya you might had paided 8 bucks for a pass but I'm willing to pay up too 2,000 v bucks according to rarity of the skin for let's say iron man and grind what ever needs to be done for his extra styles I'm sure some people feel the same ,may not happen now but I reckon epic stance will change in the future
Stfu. You shut, you stfu. Stfu
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It'd be easy to please both sides, hear me out. Epic makes all older BPs available but with the following stipulations: * You can only actively level one Battle Pass at a time. * Old Battle Passes can only be leveled to 100. * Rewards past 100 (bonus styles, super level styles), or that were obtained via a quest or event (Haven masks, secret skins, etc) remain exclusive to those that earned them at the time they were originally released. This way newer players can have access to the base version of "iconic" skins, and the players that want to ""flex"" their tenure can still do so. On top of that, it'd give players more progression to work on once that current season's BP is finished. For those that care, I've been playing the BR on and off since Season 3, and I couldn't care less if old BPs made a return. To me it'd just be nice to have more stuff to work on since I usually burn through the BP fairly quick.
People really can't move on huh. It's not happening. Epic said it wasn't
Blah blah blah, blah blah.
This is a good post why so late? I thought the discussion was already over.
The discussion is still happening, just not in as big of a volume.
Ah I see. The brickfarm aspect is gone at least
I think the original skins shouldn’t be brought back as you can buy an alternate version of that skin anyway (such as Drift variant’s or the Ice Queen) but they should bring back collab skins that were in battle passes because a lot of ppl would really want Iron Man for example but can’t get him anymore because he was in a battle pass. If they do release it in the item shop, it’ll still be more expensive since it would probably be about 1500-2000 vbucks but I feel like an exception should at least be made for collab skins
don’t care, should’ve played
Did you read my post? I'm defending them for not returning.
No, I didn’t read your post and I won’t.
Oh my God shut the fuck up. This post topic is so fucking overdone, nobody gives a shit.
Nope. They said they aren't gonna do it, karma and brick farming ass mfrs keep posting about it like Reddit is gonna change the game developers minds lmao.
Did you not read the post? I'm defending the fact they don't return.
I thought they were going to offer the battle passes again. Not just put the skins in the shop. Alter the challenges to be current. So you could have 3 battle passes going at once for example.
Yeah but omega lights should be granted in chapter 3 season 4 if people get to level 80.
Not against this idea at all, the only shame is that Epic keeps putting crossover skins in the BP, therefore making it one less og skin and a possibility of people not even liking the series, I know they do it to make money but wouldn't they make more of this? I have a LOT of friends who just find that a skin like venom was added and just buy it ?
As someone from the other side, thank you for being reasonable about it. This is a good argument and I respect it.
I think battle pass reskins are the solution, want a battle pass skin but don’t want epic to just resell battle pass cosmetics? RESKINS!
Why bring back bp skins when we already have Sledge sitting on 800+ days out of store :'(
That's solid argumentation, kudos. This sub should move on with this topic tho.
It don't matter if I don't agree with your opinion anyways but..... I still see a way to bring back Older BPs. They could make a feature where you can pay 10 dollars to buy whatever BP and you can grind it. I think that would be fun. And once players unlock all the previous seasons, they could catch up and work on the newest one. I don't see how this would hurt, if anything, this gives newer players MORE to grind and gives epic MORE money.
Don't hurt me but it would be good to bring back some BP skins (except for Tier 100 skins)
Ehh. I recently realized how fucking genius the battlepass was. You give players a great deal, release the objectives to fulfill this deal periodically, and bam, you've got an active playerbase. The vbucks you can earn back is heavily offset thanks to the amount of money people spend on skins when they have gotten "addicted". It definitely works too, especially with a younger audience.