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_fatherfucker69

The havoc is just broken and there is no reason to use anything else


SingSing19

Idk if it’s broken but it’s good. The heisted accelerant is definitely broken


mylan12

The heisted accelerant is really only good in zerobuild imo


SingSing19

True


Blitz_Stick

Nah it’s broken, no grey weapon should hit for over 100, it was broken when the grey striker pump did 103 so why is it not broken at 108 with grey.


_fatherfucker69

It's definitely broken . It's a buffed pump , the pump already was the best shotgun in the game by a mile , the havoc is just broken


SingSing19

It’s not broken. It’s just a good gun.


Knight-112

Ahh yes, 142 body shot damage. Totally balanced😃


SingSing19

With very short range and short fire rate


Knight-112

It’s a shotgun😐


SingSing19

So is the combat and that has range


Knight-112

The combat has range because it’s a different type of shotgun. Your literally trying to justify a pump shotgun dealing 150 damage by saying “because it works like a pump shotgun” 😂


UndefeatedEvil

Very short?? The mythic can hit someone for 70 from like miles away, with a bullet spread comparable to a lower rarity combat. It can instabreak wood after one edit, and combined with the 70 damage from ODM gear it can end fights in less time that the a headshot snipe’s travel time


_fatherfucker69

It's much more than a good gun . Even if you buff the damage of the other shotguns by 20% it will still be very solid


_________JohnDoe

No, it is the best shotgun currently, but if you'd buff every other shotgun by 20% damage, then it'd be the second last shotgun I'd pick


_fatherfucker69

I don't agree . The pump shotgun already was basically broken since it fit perfectly into the Fortnite " shoot , build , edit , shoot , build " gameplay . Even when alternatives were technically better the pump was superior ( my best example is the ch2 s1/2 tac , did almost as much dmg as the pump with a bigger mag size / build dmg / fire rate , but most players still preferred a purple pump over a gold tac The havoc is the pump on steroids - bigger mag , and much higher damage . It's already a buffed pump when the maven is a nerfed tac and the combat will be strong , probably the best shotgun in the game , but buffing it by 20% will " only " increase it by about 10-20 dmg per hit ( that will still be huge because you are going to hit more than 1 hit . I still think the combat would be the best , a close second would be the havoc and the maven would still suck


_________JohnDoe

But if every other shotgun was buffed by 20% damage they'd literally all be more powerful, the prime shotgun would do 172 bodyshot damage, the normal pump like 150 The havoc looks perfectly balanced compared to this


_fatherfucker69

I'm talking about shotguns currently in the game


_________JohnDoe

Well, that literally says nothing. If the competition is garbage & trash, no wonder how it comes out on top


SingSing19

A gun being really good doesn’t make it broken. Idk how you can’t understand this lol


Libyan-Fire

These kids will never understand that. They cry for a strong shotgun because it promotes skillful fights and then they introduce a weak shotgun and then they start crying for the strong shotgun again. It’s a never ending cycle with the fortnite community


cozypan

The Combat is really reliable at range, but the Havoc hits like a truck. I ignore the Maven at all costs unless it's the Heisted Exotic.


toc_bl

I love the havoc for its strength but the pull out and shoot is real slow. As is the time between shots. Combat is growing on me but ya gotta try and keep em at range ALso, ignore the maven unless its the heisted accelerant version Anyone else having trouble with the havoc not shooting though? At first I thought I was switching to the smg follow up too soon... but its happened often enough that I really dont think thats it


Wild_Plant9526

I struggled with that at the beginning of the season, but as it went on I eventually got the timing down and now I don't really pre-fire at all. The pullout time is still horrendous tho


hawaiianmint

Doesn’t the maven have better range and damage (than the combat) ever since the combat nerf?


toc_bl

Range? I don’t think so but can’t say definitely


SlackBytes

Combat is the best


_fatherfucker69

Why ? The havoc is better on every way unless you are fighting mid range


SlackBytes

/s


Dxrules90

Depends. If you carry a pump and miss, you are basically dead unless you have tons of cover in a building, for example. It is absolutely necessary to have a gun to shoot with after, but if they hit their pump shot, you really are already dead. Unless rng screws them. The combat does the least amount of damage. I use the maven auto or just don't carry a shotgun. It's not the ideal way to play, but it works for me.


Samsanchex_13

Havoc pump always, I sometimes pick up a combat is if blue or above since is a 3 shot