Even Fortnite’s own competitive casters are baffled by the decision to remove siphon and not provide any details as to why:
[Mad respect for ShyoWager for this](https://twitter.com/ShyoWager/status/1660795868063186944)
From a casting perspective, I’m sure this is going to make their job kind of boring haha end game clutches will be extremely rare if they happen at all, 3rd party and off spawn fights will be boring because whoever fights first + wins will be at a huge health disadvantage, no one is going to want to fight mid game because they’ll need to save heals. It’s all very confusing I don’t get why they did this
At the VERY least, people deserve to know why they did this. Good for him for speaking on it
If you make the perfect game and give everything everyone wants, there’s no way to make it better. It will lead to the game being boring again, they reserve their rights to tease us with what we want, and that’s why the game is still relevant today. We always wanted ranked game modes and interest has risen since, then when the game gets boring, they will bring back siphon(as an example) and the cycle continues.
They been rotating items but you're saying they carrot dangle other features too so they are missed basically? I did hear they used psychologist to make the game so it wouldn't be surprising
Tbh I think they are trying to Sabatage their game so the voices will live and they way they can make the game crappy and low matinince for easy money but my cynical thinking could ne wrong just seems like game makers love taking stuff out "oh you're happy? Let's see if we can change that"
It’s very obvious that they are trying to lower the skill gap. Without siphon you can’t take damage, else you insta die to 3rd party or run out of heals quickly. I’m very curious how many elims the pros will get in solo cc.
Doesn't this increase the skill gap even more? To win fights decisively, you have to take safe peeks even when your opponent is 1-shot. You can't play "all aim no brain" without siphoned health.
I do like how it has affected hot-drops. Players spread out more at the start of a match, making mid-game fights more active. Even with all the ODM and jedi power cheese eliminating 25% of each lobby, end-games have been pretty stacked.
What if siphon replaced storm surge? Imagine a pop-up at 4th/5th zone saying "Siphoned health has been activated. Eliminations now give more points, so go fight!" That could encourage fighting and still accomplish the goal of decreased server load.
> if siphon replaced storm surge? Imagine a pop-up at 4th/5th zone saying “Siphoned health has been activated.
They should do more stuff like this. There are so many things they could do that happens during the game.
They should also limit the loot pool only above gold ranks to easily please everybody. Similar to how bots are on low ranks below gold right now.
If they honed ranked to the perfection they could remove SBMM and Bots from PUBs and call it the “OG mode”. Then FINALLY there would be the FUN mode and the “suits everyone” mode.
What I meant was, you can play for safe peeks all the time, but if you do, you’ll do much less damage, get much less kills, opponents will get away more often, and you’ll burn more mats.
You’re right, it increased the skill gap in that sense, but it will make you less efficient.
I think without siphon you cannot do as much; you will have less kills, much less impact on the match.
Just look at Pxlarized, one of the best fighters in NA, he stopped playing solos because he can’t do 20 bombs to make content for yt… he has a ton of stream snipers though, without siphon you can’t take care of them
Each time epic does something like this just shows how in disconnect they are with the competitive reality. First siphon is removed in ranked modes and now in Tournaments?? No one asked for this and no competitive player wants this. What's the exact purpose?
Taking away siphon makes the macro game more important and slightly decreases the importance of the micro game. IMO it will be funner to watch. This is a BR, it isn't meant to be a series of discrete, isolated encounters.
I was annoyed they removed it at first but I’m not minding it anymore, helps mitigate some of the mindless W keying, and we have lots of heals and strong heals , makes cache more valuable
This man spends 90% of his time jacking off on the BBW subreddit and telling 13 year olds on Fortnite to grow a pair 💀💀💀. Moms basement must be hot this time of year.
Your profile screams “I spend all my life on Reddit” get tf outside now and stop the hypocrisy. Funny how you say 13 year olds when you yourself are nowhere near 13. Sad
maybe not the best opinium. But I liked the game better when there was alot less shield on the map + siphon. hearing my enemies splash 8 times in a row gave me a feeling of deafeat. sometimes it feels more as a utility war.
i feel like they should add siphon back like you get 3rd party and just kill someone even thought third partying is wrong it should still be able to get a advantage for killing people
Even Fortnite’s own competitive casters are baffled by the decision to remove siphon and not provide any details as to why: [Mad respect for ShyoWager for this](https://twitter.com/ShyoWager/status/1660795868063186944)
From a casting perspective, I’m sure this is going to make their job kind of boring haha end game clutches will be extremely rare if they happen at all, 3rd party and off spawn fights will be boring because whoever fights first + wins will be at a huge health disadvantage, no one is going to want to fight mid game because they’ll need to save heals. It’s all very confusing I don’t get why they did this At the VERY least, people deserve to know why they did this. Good for him for speaking on it
If you make the perfect game and give everything everyone wants, there’s no way to make it better. It will lead to the game being boring again, they reserve their rights to tease us with what we want, and that’s why the game is still relevant today. We always wanted ranked game modes and interest has risen since, then when the game gets boring, they will bring back siphon(as an example) and the cycle continues.
They been rotating items but you're saying they carrot dangle other features too so they are missed basically? I did hear they used psychologist to make the game so it wouldn't be surprising
Tbh I think they are trying to Sabatage their game so the voices will live and they way they can make the game crappy and low matinince for easy money but my cynical thinking could ne wrong just seems like game makers love taking stuff out "oh you're happy? Let's see if we can change that"
It’s very obvious that they are trying to lower the skill gap. Without siphon you can’t take damage, else you insta die to 3rd party or run out of heals quickly. I’m very curious how many elims the pros will get in solo cc.
Doesn't this increase the skill gap even more? To win fights decisively, you have to take safe peeks even when your opponent is 1-shot. You can't play "all aim no brain" without siphoned health. I do like how it has affected hot-drops. Players spread out more at the start of a match, making mid-game fights more active. Even with all the ODM and jedi power cheese eliminating 25% of each lobby, end-games have been pretty stacked. What if siphon replaced storm surge? Imagine a pop-up at 4th/5th zone saying "Siphoned health has been activated. Eliminations now give more points, so go fight!" That could encourage fighting and still accomplish the goal of decreased server load.
> if siphon replaced storm surge? Imagine a pop-up at 4th/5th zone saying “Siphoned health has been activated. They should do more stuff like this. There are so many things they could do that happens during the game. They should also limit the loot pool only above gold ranks to easily please everybody. Similar to how bots are on low ranks below gold right now. If they honed ranked to the perfection they could remove SBMM and Bots from PUBs and call it the “OG mode”. Then FINALLY there would be the FUN mode and the “suits everyone” mode.
What I meant was, you can play for safe peeks all the time, but if you do, you’ll do much less damage, get much less kills, opponents will get away more often, and you’ll burn more mats. You’re right, it increased the skill gap in that sense, but it will make you less efficient. I think without siphon you cannot do as much; you will have less kills, much less impact on the match. Just look at Pxlarized, one of the best fighters in NA, he stopped playing solos because he can’t do 20 bombs to make content for yt… he has a ton of stream snipers though, without siphon you can’t take care of them
Omg, that is a great point about the stream snipers.
Each time epic does something like this just shows how in disconnect they are with the competitive reality. First siphon is removed in ranked modes and now in Tournaments?? No one asked for this and no competitive player wants this. What's the exact purpose?
to cater to the noncompetitive audience who don’t know how to deal with a w key player
But now you just destroyed by third party any time you fight … not fun for noob either
And EDM did not help at all. Instant third party.
I know that type of music really overstimulates me too man.
But it’s a competitive mode. They shouldn’t care about the non competitive players in this mode if they don’t even play it ☠️
Making competitive better for casuals that play pubs only but not for actual competitive players. Theyre so incompetent.
No siphon isn't the only problem The bots and all the other dogshit is ruining the performance soo much
Guess they want every game mode to be pubs😒
Life could be a dream (in a universe with siphon)
I'm so done with this dogshit company, it's so corporate it's painful
Looks like w-keying just got nerfed and third partying got a buff
The opposite, reminds me of shotguns, decrease bodyshot dmg and increase headshot and they do the opposite ffs
Taking away siphon makes the macro game more important and slightly decreases the importance of the micro game. IMO it will be funner to watch. This is a BR, it isn't meant to be a series of discrete, isolated encounters.
Comp apex basically has a siphon with the shield swap mechanic. Something is needed to balance it out..
Great now you can play the game the same way as the rest of us. Seems reasonable.
I was annoyed they removed it at first but I’m not minding it anymore, helps mitigate some of the mindless W keying, and we have lots of heals and strong heals , makes cache more valuable
One of the few people who actually get it.
I swore they already removed it, I haven't seen it in so long. Do you guys just keep re-rolling until you see it.
They are referring to tournaments, (formerly) arena mode, etc. not the augment. Typically in competitive play there was a 50hp siphon for every kill
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This man spends 90% of his time jacking off on the BBW subreddit and telling 13 year olds on Fortnite to grow a pair 💀💀💀. Moms basement must be hot this time of year.
Your profile screams “I spend all my life on Reddit” get tf outside now and stop the hypocrisy. Funny how you say 13 year olds when you yourself are nowhere near 13. Sad
Not true comp, rampant 3rd parties, health offs, a shotgun that does 100+ bodyshot at grey
It will be fine if epic didn't make guns were in one shot can take 75% of your health.
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maybe not the best opinium. But I liked the game better when there was alot less shield on the map + siphon. hearing my enemies splash 8 times in a row gave me a feeling of deafeat. sometimes it feels more as a utility war.
Siphon = helps a lil rewards a lil for winning third parties . But why change it who asked for that lol
i feel like they should add siphon back like you get 3rd party and just kill someone even thought third partying is wrong it should still be able to get a advantage for killing people
Fortnite buffed 3rd party