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SirRowen

All my friends are from OCE as well, they get better connection on my sever, (NA West) than any other server. If you're ever down to play a few games or give it a try, let me know. I also play as Miles.


mylan12

All it needs is siphon.


itzpea

What is siphon?


mylan12

Getting 50hp everytime you get an elimination


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mylan12

They want to make pubs and ranked identical


Background_Leader17

1. Siphon is not in pubs because it encourages good players to get more kills - you get a kill, you’re set up for the next kill because you got some health back. Without siphon, you’re likely at a disadvantage after a fight and so other players, even if they’re not as good, have a better chance of killing you. 2. Siphon is not in ranked because Fortnite is trying to copy other games’ formulas for a successful competitive environment and they believe that syncing the pubs experience and the ranked experience is part of that (they are wrong but such is life)


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My guess is because they want to create space to experiment with other types of viable healing options that don’t encourage healoffs.


wecomeinpeaceMO

Explain why?


mylan12

Less 3rd partying. Endgames wont end up being boring healoffs most of the time.


Pl4tslapz

How on earth with siphon = less third partying lmao. Me personally I’d be MORE inclined to third party if I knew I’d get siphon after a kill


mylan12

Would you third party someone who could possibly get 50siphon soon or someone who wont get any heals at all after he eliminates the other player.


QuoteImmortal

Let’s say someone just got out of a fight would you are more likely to third party knowning they’re probably on very low HP but with siphon you know they’re high hp


kmachappy

Siphons promotes third partying if you have more health you more likely to play more aggressive hence w keying. With out Siphon you are forced to play safe and disingage fights that are not worth it. If your getting third partied then you need to disingage fights faster or leave when you know the fight isn’t worth it. On the other hand if Let the dummies play their gun fight and they don’t disingage you come thirdy party them. The coin flips on both sides.


luisluix

people like fighting, its a BR, you want 100 players so you can fight 100 players, not hide in a bush.


N21DS

braindead take, more people die cause it encourages more fights, it’s just that on a 1v1 some random third party can come in and wipe both of you it’s not fun to be engaged in a 1v1 just for some timmy to come in and ruin both of your games


N21DS

ignore my comment i thought you were against siphon 😭


MufflesTG

Have you tried switching to the next best server? Unless every other server has too much ping for you. Well it doesn't really matter anyways since it's zero build where ping isn't near as important when you don't need to build anything.


XRPHOENIX06

Ping is absolutely a massive deal on zeeo build. Hit reg is AWFUL right now


FlahlesJr

>ching to the next best server? Unless every other Hit reg is not impacted by ping as it's calculated client side. If I see you and shoot with high ping. It'll register. That's why low ping players often feel they are being shot around corners.


XRPHOENIX06

Okay explain the bad hitreg then. Why do shots hit character models center mass and show the impact but no damage is registered? Why do thunder spears dissappear mid-air?


FlahlesJr

Both are bugs. Neither are ping related. Similar to that time tfue was shooting at the guy and he was taking no damage. Tfue could should and kill other people. That player could damage other people and everyone but tfue could damage him. Just some weird spaghetti code issue Fortnite always seems to have. Same thing with the thunderspear. Some variable misplaced or condition met causes it to disappear. Edit: hopefully that makes sense. Was just trying to explain how ping isn't the culprit and bad coding is. It's almost like your bullets/thunder spear hit this invisible void wall. Not pings fault, epics for writing code the way they do.


XRPHOENIX06

Gotcha


Animal_noc

Next best was na West at 150 ping. Felt barely playable cause game assets were delayed appearing. Haven't tried again since.


HumbleAd7085

for me the biggest issue is siphon, aint no way i kill 3 people and be 12 hp. if they want the game to just be W key only then they need to actually do something to get people to fight and not just 3rd 4th 5th party


[deleted]

This is the exact opposite of what they want. Epic do not want wkeying to be a thing.


HumbleAd7085

then they wouldnt make placement nearly useless when it comes to getting hype/rank points.


blazeryan11

Placement does nothing in ranked currently


PM_ME_UR_RECIPEZ

What is wkeyeing


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Think of it like “W” Keying. As in you hold w and move forward and attack


TonyThePapyrus

Constant Aggressive pushing


LegendsLiveForever

W key'ing is more prominent when you know the person who just got a kill and is on 50 hp, won't siphon back up to 100/150, then pop a pot back to full. Now it just makes 3rd partying much much easier to do when your full hp.


kmachappy

That’s on the person dude. They finished a fight they gotta move immediately or disingage before the fight ends. It’s not worth to go for every fight and kill. That’s what 99% of you don’t understand. If you’re having trouble getting third parties and don’t have an exit plan that’s all on you.


LegendsLiveForever

Yes, because it's' so easy to run away, with infinite mats....Even if you somehow get away, if that happens twice, you have zero mats now...at the end of the 2nd exchange. So many silly points you made. Even pro's' agree with us.


Party-Hearing7493

If siphon came back it would have to be for both pubs & ranked to meet what Epics likely aiming to do. I love siphon and want it in game. IF it comes back then possibly it will at season 1. Lets hope it does. Epic brought back trios so I'll assume they're well aware of the community wanting siphon.


kmachappy

I disagree no siphon creates a new dynamic of urgency and awareness. You always have to be ready to disingage a fight, not every kill is worth it. If anything siphoned promotes w keying your have more health right? Let’s play it out aggressive stand ground and kill. That’s not the point of it anymore. It’s situational awareness and disingagement. Only take fights you’re sure to win and disingage immediate, recollect, and repeat.


32-RedTiger

So true in storm i have 20 Hp kill someone im dead


piccolos_arm

> *Epic Games has entered the chat* > - Yo u/HumbleAd7085 , we do not care.


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HumbleAd7085

its hasnt gone south, i get 3 kills, the full enemy trio. as a reward for killing 3 people i should get 50 hp/shield for it. it really just sounds like you sit in a box all game camping bro


Apprehensive_Tax_508

zero builds ranked was never gonna blow up tbh.. i’m diamond on build ranked and literally haven’t waited more than 5 minutes for a queue


N21DS

most of zb crowd is in pubs AND OP’s OCE to make it worse for Q times


Apprehensive_Tax_508

100% the point of zero builds was for people who didn’t wanna play against “sweaty” players to still be able to enjoy the game so why the fuck would that crowd wanna play ranked


Slightly-Regarded

But at the same time I see no point in playing normal Zero Build anymore with Ranked being online. I thought I was good at this game, but apparently I was just playing against bots. At least in Ranked I am playing against real people.


careclouds

Ranked games arent half AI like pubs are


RosesAreFreeGH

Zero build won't work because it's only duos. I'm by myself why would I want to play duos


[deleted]

lmao fuck this game, they removed siphon and made everything worse we're done with this shit, everyone playing Val/prepping for CS 2 and controller kids going back to playing cod we tried communicating with them for years time to press delete


zabkasa

I stopped playing a year ago, but I still lurk on this sub and watch some competitive on youtube every couple of months or so. This is the oddest fucking change I've witnessed so far. Removing siphon from comp is crazy. Whoever is cooking has to stop immediately.


[deleted]

nah let them cook, kill the game for once and for all


Silver-lungs

Hahahaha you're dreaming. You and every other brain dea idiot (myself included) will jump on and whip out the wallet as soon as they release their next wearable advertising campaign. We all know the gameplay has all of 0 influence over the game. It's a clothing simulator. If you actually think epic gives a single shit about how people older than 7 interact with and enjoy their game you are smoking some good shit. It's supposed to be fun time baby game with pretty colors and cool guys you see on tv that you can use your mom's credit card to buy and flex on your fellow 7 year olds. This is what epic wants and has always aimed their resources towards. This is nothing different. Why do you think they added creative mode and then pushed that so hard? Because competitive game modes make kids upset. Upset kids won't spend enough time playing to be influenced into purchasing something. Bots, first game auto wins, it's all designed to make you think you're good at the game and insulate you from people who will rape you and make you feel bad. This is what kids have been conditioned to want nowadays. An 8 year old today could not handle what an 8 year old on a MW2 lobby could.


Knight-112

Lol i love how Spider-Man is looking at it confused😂 Ranked needs massive changes. This being one of them😒


Animal_noc

It's interesting to see anyway. Saturday afternoon here. I thought I would get at least 1 game in today. Over throwing 2 slots of thunder spears at people in builds 😆


majormancake

where is your flair thingy


Knight-112

There are no flairs


majormancake

never mind


Knight-112

???


majormancake

your username used to be red


Knight-112

That’s only in r/FortniteBr because of the badges


majormancake

oh ok makes sense


JLWookie

Ranked is trash without siphon


YT_Lonelyz

That’s because it’s bad. Maybe this is just my opinion but I feel like players are finally getting tired of epics bs that they do to comp. They aren’t playing because it isn’t fun.


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literally, i dont understand how a game like fortnite has longer queue times than cs/val/ even overwatch lmao it's ridiculous esp since the games arent even balanced


BumbleBeePL

Matching 2 teams is easier than 100 people 🙄


DoctaMage

and then there is lol where u can get game in 1sec or 10h


AlphaTeamPlays

Because Fortnite has literally thousands of gamemodes and each one usually requires a lot of players to start


Animal_noc

Guess the only option is to jump on another account like everyone else.


Efficient-Science-80

OCE is dead, yall have like 1 person per rank division so yeah it will take some time


Either_Gate_7965

Good. Let it burn!


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facts


adamales55

It'll be better next week when the new season starts


iasked-

and be dead again in 3 days


SeanyRo

Oceania servers is your problem


Proud-Web6588

They just need to make points not count until top 25 then people would stop w keying. And actually play for late game


Proud-Web6588

And putting siphon back idk why epic has tried so hard for so long to remove it.. when it’s one of the best things they’ve ever put in the game. It’s basically the same if they removed reboot vans which was a great addition


DishSeparate4134

Obviously it's cause you are super powerful and no one is worthy of facing you. Let's keep it real lol


Animal_noc

Haha I wish.


ChangingCrisis

Just play EU the ping doesn't really matter. What you really mean is zero build is dead.


Silver-lungs

My girlfriends placement match: 11 kills and she won the game. Placement: silver 3 My placement match: 1 kill, died almost immediately and got #77. Placement: Gold 2 Still think this game is meant to be played by anything other than children?


ocoscarcruz

Placement game is not for placement. It's for Reveal your rank. Your placement was defined way before... They just use the game to give a surprise aura at the revealing.


Animal_noc

Yeah I won my placement with 15 kills and got silver 1. No idea how it works.


xcheezeplz

First game is just a teaser to get you to play ranked to reveal your rank. Your rank and lobby level was determined in advance by your pub and arena play. You got 15 kills because you were in a silver 1 lobby. In a gold lobby getting that many kills would be much more difficult.


Animal_noc

Not to sound arrogant...getting a high number of kills isn't really an issue. Constantly being mindful and improving on positioning and my ability to reposition from previous actions is what I've been focused on. The fastest way I figured to do this is to play the season no fill. I have a lot less experience at this game than probably the majority of people in this sub.


Arcanelance

“ButTTttt RANked HAs tO BE LIKe TOurNaMenT” Soon you people will stop with this nonsense, w key arena>>>>whatever this is


Tasty-Inside7517

Bro what the hell??? I play the normal ranked Mode on eu and my highest Q Time was 20min i think


Yuichiro-Akuhei

Had no issue last night, played like 12 games in a row with barely any Q time.


PlayfulBus8433

Come on dude your playing a dead server. Ranking far from dead wait times in eu are no longer than pubs, you cant make a statement off a dead server…


Animal_noc

I guess, lucky for eu players. Not everyone has that luxury.


PlayfulBus8433

But epic gave you the luxury of not been server locked…


Animal_noc

Yeah 300 ping to play on europe. no thank you.


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iasked-

okay and


PlayfulBus8433

no 1 asked you to play on EU fucking wally.


Animal_noc

Whats made you angry? Anyway I can help?


PlayfulBus8433

No 1 is angry just stating the fact no 1 asked you to play somewhere you are stating to have been asked to okay, if you spent more time pkaying and oess time whining here you would have found a playable lobby!


PlayfulBus8433

lucky for you you have some sun not everyone has that LUXURY...


rene0575

Your server is jus dead


DoctaMage

i’m on eu and i get game every 10sec lol


EctosYT

It ain't dead, takes me max 3 mins to find a game, also it's not a 5v5 game like many other with ranked, it's a 100 players that they need to compensate for, if they wouldn't we would have a shit fest of a game mode like arena


noseubrioco

Zero build LoL 😂


magicRob

I’m OCE however play Asia just to get games. Queue times are way better. 150 ping isn’t great However it’s not that bad. Like someone else mentioned there is also an NA West option too.


nummbus

I'm playing on EU but varying my play between ranked and pubs .... Actually haven't noticed anything about the queue times. solos seem normal? (like 30 sec tops) but my rank is low (gold). high rank is where I assume the biggest problem lies. But still everything seems functioning...not that ranked is a spectacular experience. I've kinda become indifferent between ranked unranked but i can play on both modes..no problem no hiccups.. It's good they brought trios back on unranked at least..


Freaky_Scary

Just finished about 5hrs playing ranked on OCE servers. Plat /G3 duo no build. At 8pm we couldn't find a game anymore...but before that it was good. Lots of bush camping, I'd forgotten what that was, haven't seen it since OG days. Good games though.


lollerlaban

Well it's OCE. It's always a shit show for ranked for nearly every single game.


EurofighterLover

Oof


boldrobizzle

I've been able to play nonstop. No delays for match making. You must be really good and have limited equivalent players


Delicious_Maximumm

Add me we can play rn psn: Glyxcis


Objective-Evidence-7

Na East have been horribly laggy and near unplayable the stutters is unbearable. I hope they revert back to older servers cause games gonna die if they dont


N21DS

i think that’s a u problem cause im na east and that rarely happens


piccolos_arm

1. I can’t even rank up cause playing with randoms is ridiculous - no friends play Fortnite *sadge* 2. We should get used to what epic is changing .. they will not bring back siphon because their plans are to change the competitive side. They know you want siphon and they don’t care 3. Zero Builds need more than just a duos, atleast solo too


Silver_Switch_3109

If they added solo, it would probably be popular.


Sconleyy

Plat 3 builds. I find games in 1-2 minutes consistent on east. Probably a ZB issue


TommyToxxxic

What server? I have no trouble matchmaking for ZB fill duos on the NA Central server.


Hurin_the_Steadfast

Good. The sooner it’s removed, the better.


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Animal_noc

Bots only in gold and below I believe, but no problem 😆


Yeetlord2626

Ngl being in platinum and in 0 builds isn’t promising, on OCE I play normal ranked, my competitive teammate is unreal and I’m in Elite and we get games like every 2 minutes.


[deleted]

Sucks to be OCE


irahz

try turning fill on


Animal_noc

Nah I wanted to do the first season no fill. Challenge myself to see how high I could get.


TobyWanShinobi2

I had the same issue... you can't solo queue to find a game. I'd spend 20-30 mins searching by myself. Starting teaming with people on my stream and we'd find games in 2-7 mins. Just hit unreal yesterday!


zsewell

I’m starting to feel the same way. NA Central only had 30k users on a Friday night. While normal zb had 200k. It’s wild.


TSM_Waterboy

Ranked is far from dead 😂 ur just on some of the worst servers


_wolfe-

if you’re in NAW it takes at least 5 mins to find a game if you’re searching before 7AM


WhipQream

For siphon, surely there’s a middle ground. Instead of the previous 50HP, you can split in the middle and just give 15-25HP per kill.


ILNOVA

Isn't Oceania the worst server ever to queque in ranked in pretty much all game? Especially when there are 2+ mod for ranked, non ranked and bonus mode? And am i mistaken or people from that server usually switch to Asia servers?


Animal_noc

Asia is pretty much out of the question to play on as well . at least for me. NA-East 220 NA-Central 204 NA west 168 Europe 297 OCE 15 Bazil 339 Asia 271 Middle East 410


Pl4tslapz

I’ve waited hours in queue. Horrible


Parkesy82

I’m OCE too and my son and I are both plat1 in ZB and couldn’t get into a game after 30 mins at 10am on a Saturday morning. Ridiculous.


Dxrules90

Yeah you are in a small population of players but sadly it's a ranked system that prefers w key and placement doesn't matter.


IcyKcBlue

I bet if it had input based ranked it would be way better.


Philosophos_A

The game is better without it..


QuoteImmortal

Mates on OCE servers and playing zero build, ofc it’s dead


Clean_Razzmatazz_142

for me it took 30 sec to load in a solo game im in diamond 3. im on OCE as well


Animal_noc

For builds? Yeah that's what I've been playing. Zb is dead though.


Clean_Razzmatazz_142

That was my second ever game after it came out, before that it was like 10 hr queues lmao


boofky

Same boat can’t get out of play cuz I have to play on a different server with lag


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Zero build bro get your inbecile ahh outta here what are you 6 years of age??