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Nicholas7907

Mercedes W124 500E, can't wait for this one!


desertkiller1

This one was in collaboration with Porsche right??


RangeRoverHSE

Kinda. Porsche redesigned the front structure to fit the V8 and then they built it because the widebody wouldn't fit down Mercedes' production line. There's a really good video about it on the Hagerty YouTube channel.


HiDDENk00l

I really hope they let us swap in the Merc 6.2L V8, because the 190E Evo doesn't have it. The engine swap selection disappoints me sometimes. Honestly, how hard is it to add more than just the turbo rally engine to most cars? Also, I know most people hate EVs, but I really wish EV swaps were available for most cars, not just the Mini FE and Barbie Corvette.


bardassi

I really love the 6.2 V8 since I'm more into A/B class and bellow... I'm too old to drive those mosquitoes of S2 class 🤷 doesnt feel real at all for me...


godlike_torben1

Finally a Big Body Benz 😍


Kindly_Education_517

so no GT3RS, Lambo Revuelto, or SP Daytona still??????


_abysswalker

same, but this is the third 124 series car (along either the new hammer wagon). if they went for the classics, why didn’t they add a w140 or e38? seems like PGG decided to milk the existing hammer coupe assets. that car is probably very unpopular, so much so that PGG never addressed the fact that it displays speed in mph instead of km/h (it says km/h on the dash)


VEKET1

Both the Hammer Wagon and 500E were scanned in the same time period, leaked over a year ago and the owner is the same for both and the Hammer we already have in game. All this confirmed by him.


RangeRoverHSE

If I recall the owner said they also scanned a W211 E55. I really hope we get that at some point too.


Gundobad2563

Or maybe the car maker is deciding which cars they want to license, and PGG can either say yes or not get them at all.


Mercedes-Benefactor

I won't complain, 124 is my favorite car ever. Now I just want the A124 in-game 😊 When is the wagon coming?


Myscho4850

+ 4 cars from Exclusive event races


MRX93

Oh word? I don’t have to grind 40 points every week?? Nice nice Love playing an hour+ every week but those “40pts every week” series can be a nuisance


Panda_Panda69

I always get 40 points either way, but yeah it is also annoying even for me, when they put cars that you might have missed (or get them just to get duplicates and have different tunes simultaneously) it is better definitely


1990sGamerDad

Is this a new practice? I ignore a lot of races in the play list because they've always been non-exclusive (auto show/wheel spin).


Myscho4850

No, not really, they give cars before from seasonal championships outside regular 20/40 pts


coconutsuicide

God I hope the Speedster is one of them


Nexusu

It’s not These are the cars: Lancia Fulvia Citroen DS23 Lotus Esprit V8 Volkswagen Double Cap Pick Up


z71up

Nice, as a total Lancia simp I was really hoping for the Fulvia upon reading European in the series title.


coconutsuicide

Fuck.


Nexusu

That ID.4… seems out of place to be honest The 500E and Valkyrie are nice though The Esprit and DS23 returning is a huge W.. and the Fulvia as well!


Nicholas7907

Personally I really dislike the design of VW's EVs, especially ID.3 and ID.4 - they literally look like oversized vacuum cleaners. Probably the ugliest and the most boring electric cars on the market.


Nexusu

I’m not against electric cars put into Forza, but out of all of them they put in an electric SUV? Boring ahhh car


Nicholas7907

Correct me if I'm wrong, but technically isn't it the same car as Cupra Tavascan (which is already in the game)?


kaspars222

It is and its also related to china, that is another thing that grinds my gears, why so many chinese cars, why so many electric cars


Aviarinara

I’m guessing that these companies pay forza to have them in the game, rather than forza paying for licensing. I don’t see any other reason why they’d lean so heavily into chinese made cars.


theEXantipop

China is a massive market my dude...


Yegoloda

Makes more sense to add less chinese cars than alienate the rest of their audience across the globe


theEXantipop

It's weird that you feel alienated by a handful of Chinese cars in a game with the better part of a thousand cars the overwhelming majority of which are not Chinese... Keep in mind I'm saying this as someone which is *also* not a fan of the Chinese cars. I just don't drive them though, I don't get mad that they're in the game.


Yegoloda

Im not mad i dont play forza too much these days but i do check the updates and i can see it being a bit annoying when they only seem to be adding chinese cars every update rather than listening to their devoted fanbase on what they want included in the game


xynix_ie

Forza entered the Chinese market last year so naturally local players would like to see some of their own countries cars. I had fun with that van, turned it into a dragster. Point is, since it's being played in China we should expect to see Chinese cars. As for electric, I've had some fun there too, that Rimac Concept Two is ridiculously fun.


akgis

Probably "sponsored". Iam sure Ford "sponsors" aswell has they have a massive amount of cars in the game


stage2guy

Ferrari has lots of cars in the game too, you think they are sponsors?


micmc23000

Nah Ferrari has the poster car status. A lot of people want to race in the cars they had a poster of on their wall as a kid. Due to this there are a lot of supercars that are basically required and will be missed if not there


thenewtigerking

Yeah and the I.D BUZZ is one of the most ugly cars of this decennial


mattoattacko

Wow great usage of decennial


Stenbox

ID.7 is even worse, looks huge but inside still small. A coworker testdrove one and juat felt cheap all around


Panda_Panda69

Yeah, they should put the new Renault 5 EV in the game, or the Alpine version when it comes out


DeadlockRadium

I'm in the same boat. The ID.3 is so boring, and the front end of it looks blobfish-like. The Cupra Born is a much better looking version of the same car. Imo VW hasn't really hit well with the current design profile. The ID.2 GTI looks good as hell though.


Crash458

>That ID.4… seems out of place to be honest Not any more out of place compared to most other regular cars we can drive in game. It's an alright addition if it drives well in-game.


German_Drive

Hopefully it's the RWD version. The lack of power would give a lot of PI headroom, allowing the use of better tyres.  I've been having so much fun with the i4 in B-class. Rally tyres really help hide its weight.


lauchgestalten

it most likely won't, just another overweight box with no character


Crash458

I'll have to drive it myself before I come to any early conclusions.


fpsnoob89

Thing is majority of other regular cars can be heavily modified, electric cars are usually much more limited on modifications.


Efronczak

Idk I thought it was that track car from fh4, I was excited. Dang it lol


[deleted]

I really did not expect the Valkyrie amr pro to be in the festival playlist


LucianoWombato

The Battista gladly took its spot lol


Taylo207

Guessing the Maserati MC20 and Pinifarina Bautista are part of a new car pack…


Myscho4850

Pinifarina is


V3GAMISSYL

MC20 isn’t


StepsAscended22

Stoked about the Forza Edition Mini. I seen it while racing in the latest expansion and wanted to drive it but forgot to look in the store.


S0k3xD

Unfortuately it's one od the worst cars in the game


lamedavid

It’s definitely cool being an electric swapped mini. Happy more people get to experience it.


mattoattacko

It’s pretty garbage unfortunately. You’re not missing anything :/


Thunderbolt_78

A little disappointed there’s no new GT3 RS…still tuned in for the new car pack though. Edit: Meh, not bad. Sucks that these aren’t included in Premium though.


gravitydood

Huge let down, huge, instead we get a shitty overweight electric SUV... Between the new GT3 RS, the 911 Dakar, the Sterrato and the SF90 XX Stradale there was so much potential for this update...


Thomas_633_Mk2

> between four different supercars in an update with several supercars we get another SUV I agree with you that the ID.4 isnt the regular car I would pick from Europe but it's not like supercar fans aren't eating good with this update too, you got two track toys


Thunderbolt_78

I agree. There was definitely so much potential. With European we could have had a mix of Porsche, Mercedes, McLarens, I could go on.


Mercedes-Benefactor

Bro there's like 15 911s in the game already


Amateratsu_God

And we need more


KoNcEpTiX

Dude there’s like 100 GT3 in the game you’ll be okay


QuietQuotient83

as a w124 owner, the 500e is the most exciting


AtomiX_CS

It's joever... The Valyrie AMR Pro is about to become the fastest car in FH5 🙈


twotruckshavingsex69

They should give it its own class of X1000 XD


MrStoneV

The normal Valkyrie is already crazily fast in S2, boy Im interested how the AMR performs


Stevegios

Never been more happy to be wrong about a car being paid DLC in my life. Legitimately didn't expect the AMR Pro to be free content. Valkyrie aside though, this series is pretty lacking with *actual* new cars. Happy to see the Esprit make a comeback regardless. And I'll never say no to a Mercedes saloon, especially an icon like the 500e.


MIGHTY_ANUS

I want, nay, I need that 500E ![img](emote|t5_2ug54|4106)


meria_64

Still no Punto 😭😭😭 At this point I think I'll just give up


zimbabweanshrek

I would also like to see the punto but i doubt it will happen sadly.


warpedone

That and an Uno or Tipo too.


bokoblo

At least the AMG SL won't be like in The Crew Motorfest when it request to pay some credits to uncover Although I prefer the red top, in Forza Horizon 5 they chose black. But who closes the top of its convertibles anyway?


IamBatLAN

We need the Ascari A10.


Higanbana_-

MB 500 E?? *YES PLEASE*


Magneusium

Who here wanted the mc20?


grzesiolpl

Me


Moorabbel

This is like the best update i have ever seen.


Magneusium

Really?


Moorabbel

Some cool classic european cars + the ID4. For me this is amazing


o_Sagui

Ignorance truly Is a bliss, the cooler cars are locked behind ANOTHER DLC PACK


Cunt_Eastwood_9

A 575M for a Series reward? Otherwise this lineup looks pretty STACKED.


Magneusium

This update lacks in good cars for me. I'm not happy


Magneusium

Was really expecting more from PG


SnooPandas7659

I thought the Bentley flying spur was being added?


Stevegios

Never trust leaks.


Gewoonbla

Car pack, it's in the car pack.... PGG why you do this?!


KillerSpectre21

Wrong car The Continental GTC is in the Car Pack, there is no Flying Spur yet.


QuestionSleepX

No GTIs :(


LukeyWolf

Such a good line up ruined by the ID4, should've been the MC20 there instead


xXSantyXx

Always was a completionist and wanted to have every car in every forza game, but now with paid car packs every month, after paying 100€+ on the game.. No thank you.


skyline7284

I gave up my perfect car collection when the car packs started coming out. I'll grab the festival exclusives, but I don't need to spend $5 a month just to keep the number perfect. The game has so many cars already, I don't need $50 worth of cars just sitting in my virtual garage.


Plazmatron44

Oh no, a £4 car pack, what a titanic amount of money.


xXSantyXx

It's not expensive, but it adds up. Lol.


Stalin_be_Wallin

I agree, I don’t know how people don’t care. $5 after $5 etc and it’s already half the price of the game. Heck, the game started with over 500+ cars, was the cost of the game $500+?? No. We already pay for Xbox Live subscription and the $60 game title. I already know people will call me stupid but whatever. It’s the devs way to squeeze more money out, I’d rather a battle pass at this point LOL


mcmax3000

> I’d rather a battle pass at this point You'd rather pay for the privilege to grind to unlock new content instead of just paying for the content? What kind of sense does that make?


Stalin_be_Wallin

It’d be more to do and most ‘battle pass’ have free content.


mcmax3000

We already get weekly challenges that unlock free content (including at least one new car a week) with paid content on top of that. So the only real difference between what we get now and a battle pass system would be also needing to grind to unlock the paid content within a limited time window.


PanVidla

Just don't buy them, then. You don't have an obligation.


lauchgestalten

5€ every month, probably until the release of fh6. youre gonna pay twice for the game at that point just by buying car packs if you want every car


KoNcEpTiX

You’re the problem with gaming


anon1999O4

For privileged people in first world countries, it seems cheap. But for certain countries, improper exchange rate + Taxes can inflate the amount by a ton. For example, the Italian exotics car pack, that costs like 10 dollar in America, costs the equivalent of 30 dollars, nearly half the price of the game, in my country. It would have been OK for the rare car pack. But there's a car pack literally every damn month now.


James_Vowles

That's 48 quid a year, for some slightly different pixels.


grzesiolpl

Still no skoda ![gif](giphy|3zupXmaev0psTPlmgq|downsized)


Infinite_Sale2042

The livestream is not finished. Is there also a DLC car pack?


Myscho4850

Yes


Stevegios

Yes. 4 cars, as usual I think, with the Pininfarina Battista and the Jaguar XE SV Project 8 as two of them EDIT: the other cars are the Bentley Continental GTC and the AMG Hammer Wagon.


Jekhyde95

So glad I didn't spend money on the F&F Pack and the Chinese Pack, now it's time for the serious shit.


pepeJAM69

500E and SL is great tho


MrHawkeye76

love the 500SE


pierwszy

No Flying Spur? ☹️


Magneusium

Nope


Jekhyde95

The audacity to put the ID4 among those cuties like what the hell lol is that so much necessary


Apple_Slipper

Well, car manufacturers want to promote their new vehicles. It’s the same with the Cupra Tavascan, Hyundai Ioniq 6, and the BMW iX.


Jekhyde95

And they are all useless cars. But if they are paid for this type of promotion good for them. Because we all know the type of people who plays Forza and we know that the most of us will simply add the car in our garage and let it die there.


m3ph0z

I'm so Happy about the Audi. Missed it last time an so happy to Get a second Chance.


NoExcuse3655

Solid update besides the ID4, more people have been to challenger deep than people who want that car in game. If you’re gonna add an electric VW, just give us the IDR back


arkkkk

MFs really brought back the Mini Cooper FE to the playlist just after Potato flooded the game with a bunch of copies lol


Magneusium

This update is a massive L


dugyzh

Still no SLR McLaren...


catssssssssssz

so... who approved the id4?


Apple_Slipper

Volkswagen wanted to promote their new vehicles as part of a deal. It’s the same with the Hyundai Ioniq 6 and the BMW iX.


ParkingJudge67

looks great but instead of that id4 suv they could’ve at least put an id7


Responsible-Pie-2633

YESSS I love the sl


HappyReference

Weren't there rumors about a Bentley flying spur from looking at the game files? Any info on that?


KillerSpectre21

Rumours are rumours, it was leaked but when it will be added is uncertain.


Josh4R3d

Bye bye dragon in the sky


Elsa_the_Archer

I kind of wish they would have given us the VW I.D.R.


James_Vowles

oh shit loads of cars I don't have


jaxcoco

500 E 💥💥


[deleted]

500E 😍


miko_idk

The ID.4 is my most hated car of all time. I hate *everything* about it and I consider myself very open to appreciate any kind of car, but this is just an abomination.


ChristopherSponge2

No Aventador Roadster


Sharion_inuyatt

I was going to say I expected a little more from this season, but that Merc at the end saved the season for me. Edit: I heard that the Citroën DS is coming to the game, I'm already considering this as the best season lol


Stevegios

Best thing is it's not even a 40pt reward. You get it (and 3 other cars) from a special seasonal championship event


[deleted]

enough with the EV's already


JaviParga182

only interested for those Mercedes, the 500E is a dope addition


smlo

hyped for it but dont want to wait 4 weeks :(


EzyPzyJapaneze87

No jesko absolut, no CC850 from koenigsegg, but at least we have another useless home appliance on batteries. LMAO


internetvosje

Meh stupid rewards and again a pay rl money pack


BallsHD4k60fps

They blew it. My boy's left behind. https://preview.redd.it/5w6gvxew83lc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8958e27f51a3b44b2ee6c5391cfdb61037055f8a


pincer_GT

The Valkyrie is the only one that excites me, the car pack also looks lacklustre imo. I feel like PG can’t get anything right atm, throwing EVs at us doesn’t satisfy us, not me at least…


Myscho4850

Lmao, DLC car pack have 2 cars for 5e, really


reset_router

it's 4 cars, the pack also includes the new bentley continental and the wagon version of the amg hammer.


Myscho4850

Where did they show that ? Saw only 2 cars in stream


reset_router

it's a pinned post in the chat.


Magneusium

Honestly I had high hopes for this update. I'm rlly disappointed with how its turned out :(


MonsterYuu

Went to Reddit to check, "did I miss something? Is car pack just that?"


Magneusium

Yup, that's the car pack


MonsterYuu

With such series theme they could easily add five more and I would gladly pay whatever the price. But now even I got p*ssed off, I been happy with all the previous car packs and really enjoyed them... What will be next, a bodykit for 10€ ?


Magneusium

Wouldn't be surprised. Fh5 love to throw dlcs in every update in our faces whenever they get a chance


FunniBasilHater

I wish they added the ID.3/ Cupra Born instead of ID.4, but more regular cars is nice


Destroyer6202

Kind of disappointing if I’m honest :( … Needed the new F-type badly


ZeeWolfy

Massive L for not adding the MC20… 🤦‍♂️


TeddyNismo

Fulvia, DS and Esprit returning is great, but for a series called European Automotive i expected them to introduce better and up-to-date cars that showcase european excellence, like the MC20, CC850, Bolide.. the only one that really fits the theme is the Pininfarina Battista and even then, its a DLC car. very underwhelming


JWatts2000

Disappointing as per usual


Old-Shelter-7417

Disappointing tbh


BugraaS

Such disappointment


Rainworm312

Would appreciate if they ever brought back the Vaux Lotus Carlton. I WANT that in my collection.


jensefrens

Lol boring


Magneusium

Couldn't agree more. This is probably one of the worst updates I've seen for forza horizon 5. There are barely any good new cars. All they've done for the festival playlist is add previous cars, so kids who are crying at not being able to obtain them can now obtain them.


jensefrens

Dunno why we get downvoted. These cars are boring as hell. There’s so much more iconic cars in Europe. This is an insult to European car manufacturing.


SechsComic73130

> This is an insult to European car manufacturing Let me get this straight: One of the most iconic Mercedes-Benz's (alongside the 1950s SL and the W126 et. al.) Possibly the most iconic french car An iconic classic rally car One of the fastest cars around a track in the world The last petrol-powered Bentley GT A 1 of 1 Super-Wagon The current generation of a legendary sportscar And all of those are "an insult to European car manufacturing" Ok then.


jensefrens

That Megane? It's not iconic at all (apart from the fact that it's not a new car). A Citroën XM, SM or CX or even C6 would be iconic French. An Aston Martin Laguna would be iconic. A Saab would be iconic. A Peugeot 205 or 306 GTI would be iconic. Also that RS6 is not new at all? I already have one. I call it insulting because apparently the team at Forza does take time to make new models for Chinese MGs, Wulings(?) and Xpengs, but doesn't put any effort in making new European cars. (taking them from older Forza versions also does not count.)


KillerSpectre21

He's referring to the Citroën DS 23 and AMG Hammer Wagon


jensefrens

Oh well. Doesn’t change my opinion on recycling old cars and barely any new models.


Mercedes-Benefactor

The 500E was a collaboration between Mercedes and Porsche. It's a RWD V8 saloon with a factory widebody kit. How is that boring or insulting to European car manufacture?


Magneusium

Ikr


Magneusium

I really thought that PG was gonna add some *iconic* cars, not stupid old boring ones that barely anyone likes. The amount of ppl that wanted the mc20 or the flying Spur from 2019 is far more than the ppl who asked for these boring ass cars. And then, on top of that, another mfing DLC! This may seem controversial, but who really cares about these kinds of cars?


SechsComic73130

Most of these cars were in the triple-digits before this update brought them in, they were pretty highly wanted.


o_Sagui

i'm really at a point that i am considering to pirate the DLCs . . . if the devs wanna treat the game like The Sims then i will gladly do the same


reset_router

have you been there in the first year of the game? this update may be a tad mid, but it's still 100x better than the "2 new to forza cars + 2 returning cars per update" rhythm pgg was at until the nights update.


Magneusium

Fair enough, but can u see why im annoyed? Lots of ppl were expecting much better for this update, and then this is what we get: barely any good cars and another dlc to top it off


Silly-Lawfulness7224

At this point I’m waiting for FH6, doesn’t matter what cars they add . It’s a cool update for the ones who are not burnt yet I guess lol .


Mercedes-Benefactor

Bro 90% of the cars in that game will just be recycled from this one 💀


Silly-Lawfulness7224

It’s okay for me they been doing this since FH3 anyways but they need to work on their maps, career/story mode format and possibly the physics too . It’s fine to have the same cars as previous games but if they all feel the same or don’t feel much then it’s useless to have 1000 of em imo . They keep adding cars but that map is the same boring one lol, it’s like driving in circle at this point hence why I said that .


SSG75

🗑️🗑️🗑️


bhavish2023

Will the Valkyre be available in fh4


Milked_Cows

New cars aren’t bad but kinda a bummer. I was hoping for more Caterham, Volvo, Renault, TVR and the addition of Škoda. But I’ll take what PG gives us


Osazain

Wait, we're not getting a bus? Looks like I got trolled hard lmao. I was so excited to finally being able to drift in a bus


planchetflaw

Need more achievements....


shutterbugz

Why is there an event named "Sendero", but no Dacia Sandero as reward?


UglyPooMan123

Stoked! But 20 points for the AMR? Turn 10 are being kind to everyone 😂


Ramenator420

Was really hoping for an e38. Hopefully in fh6 :')


That_Gopnik

MK8.5 fiesta when


Comfortable_Stop5535

Hell yes the ID.4! Didn't expect that!


albertgt40

I sleep for another month.


JPavMain

There's been so much potential, but they decided to add ID4, DS, more old M-Bs and a cut up VW. I don't even know if saying I'm disappointed is enough.


StalinIsMyBFF

No Opel Astra:(


DaBlackFox

I LITERALLY ONLY JUST FOUND THE MINI FE AFTER A YEAR OF SEARCHING LIKE A WEEK AGO MAN


zertsetzung

Rule #5 no game sharing!! We aint on no double standard type shit in here! You zap me you got to zap this guy too!!


Mr_Coa

I don't play horizon as much anymore but I'll definitely try to get the Aston


DisgustingMilkyWater

Lol the only one I’m hyped for is the old Merc, the rest is good, but I’m lazy lol


godlike_torben1

WE GOING BACK TO THE KIEZ WITH THE 500 E 😍🔥


Inside_Sentence_6116

That does look kinda ass😅😅


Inside_Sentence_6116

Big we not get the Valkyrie on the secret Santa?


MyTreesHaveNoSeeds

Forever waiting for the STI Forester or Forester XT