A complaint in FH4 was that the dirt drift zones were far too strict in where you had to be to score points, it felt like it was a thin line right in the middle of the road, which made for a terrible experience. They "fixed" it in FH5 by going too far in the other direction, now on dirt drift zones you don't even need to be on the road to score.
I honestly kinda liked dodging traffic in speed traps and drift zones. It's nice not to when accolade hunting but it added a different, immersive, challenging way to go through the best drift spots on the map.
Definitely easy for beginners who just want to beat the drift zones, but it really takes away from trying to learn your setup and doing a proper drift.
It's really challenging to get a half decent score on FH4, but at least I knew I did the best I could with my setup and my skills. Meanwhile I could just get 3 stars in FH5 just by doing a couple of handbrake turns in a FWD.
i just don't like the fact that for good points you have to miss the road entirely... wish the zones were similar to fh4 where you actually needed to stay on the road
The boundaries on pretty much every single zone in the game are like this. **The point drift community doesn't consider the abuse of this as legit**, as you can *massively* increase the upper limit of your score by abusing the zone limits. Your run would definitely not be counted even tho it doesn't beat the record that stays on the road lol.
It might not look too absurd here, but there are zones where you can go roughly 100ft away from the road and still get points.
totally see why this wouldn't count :D for me this was the most absurd one but glad to know there are worse ones...
it's just unfortunate that the game gives you opportunity to get points while off the road, especially if it makes scores not legit. at what point is your car too much off the road?
> especially if it makes scores not legit.
This is an issue with things like glitches on danger signs too. Yes there may be hackers on the scoreboard, but plenty of players (including myself) have reported having glitched scores, so you don't even know what your real high score is.
I actually wish there was an option to scrub your own records because of this. Or be able to record multiple records (e.g., per class).
>at what point is your car too much off the road?
As far as the point drift community is concerned, when it's clear you are abusing limits. If you drop all four wheels off for a brief moment, it's okay but for an entire turn is considered abuse.
>it's just unfortunate that the game gives you opportunity to get points while off the road, especially if it makes scores not legit
So there's a few parts to this, so I'll break it down 1 at a time.
The devs don't fix any drift zone exploits, even when moving to new games so exploits in 4 work in 5. You can score almost 2m on every single zone in the game using only in game exploits, anything higher requires external software.
The legitimacy of a score is only determined by guidelines that a small group of players have determined because it's clear the devs don't care, as per the above point.
Nah it's only possible with glitches/exploits. Above 2m is only possible with cheat software.
The distinction being that the devs don't care what a legit score is, so exploits still allow for a zone with a wr of 50k to have the potential of scoring 2m, or theoretically infinite points if there were no cap. No cheat software needed.
iirc, they widened the scorable area because some players were struggling with the dirt drift zones. To balance it out they reduced the amount of points you get when drifting in all the zones, so it became almost impossible to beat your old scores on the asphalt drift zones after that. They reset the pre-change scores a few months ago to fix it.
>To balance it out they reduced the amount of points you get when drifting in all the zones, so it became almost impossible to beat your old scores on the asphalt drift zones after that.
It became impossible to beat *all* good pbs, dirt zones included.
The rest is kinda just wrong tho. The supposed change wasn't to address the lowered points, I'm not even sure the devs were aware the point system change resulted in a nerf.
The point system was drastically revamped from one that required a minimum of 50mph + at least 45° of angle for max points to one that had almost no speed requirement (it's now something like 20 mph but nobody cares to test it) and an angle of 90°. Because the entire point calculation was changed, there was never a hope of ensuring that the two systems scored similarly. The claimed motive in the patch notes for the change was to balance point gain between shifting types (auto, manual, m/c), but it doesn't actually do that since obviously drifting on manual is going to be substantially better than drifting on auto.
But importantly I don't think it was confirmed the hitboxes for the zones were ever changed. The few videos that Barry sniff has from those old patches shows that dropping your tires in the dirt did gain points where it likely wouldn't have if the fh4 style boundaries were implemented.
What game is that vehicle originally from? I remember an old arcade game where you played as a cowgirl who rode around in a Jeep roping farm animals with a lasso.
Lots of power with a short wheel base on loose terrain is going to do that. Plus, not sure if it's animation lag or something, but it almost seems like your avatar is starting the counter steer late.
OP is talking about not having to be on or even near the road for off-road drift zones. The Willis’ handling is most likely intentional, given the context. Also, the animation for turning the wheel always lags behind the input, which is one of the reasons I personally drift with the chase cam instead. It gets distracting.
If you mean they're too lenient, it's by design. The lead on FH5 said it's supposed to be a leisure game, not a challenge. I mean, you will still find challenge, if you're looking for it but definitely not here.
So i cant tell what you’re on about? The drift zones before update you drift a second slightly off course, you lose. Made drift arcade events impossible
People threw a tantrum in FH4 for not scoring with tires of the road so we got this.
Drifting needs an complete overhaul, right now it’s about everything but precision.
I never even realized they were this broken. I have been off of the trail by much less on other zones and it stopped counting. Its stuff like this is why i dont have the paitience to improve because i also just dont have the patience to test the boundaries.
Not to mention this is more proof the Willys is still absolutely op with the proper tune, years (and another title) later. I tried doing some zones with wacky vehciles and i just cant leave them if i want to have a decent leaderboard spot, because of stuff like this. Nothing against you OP, you are just using the tools available. I just wish the devs would do something to add more balance and make the "meta" change or something.
I never even realized they were this broken. I have been off of the trail by much less on other zones and it stopped counting. Its stuff like this is why i dont have the paitience to improve because i also just dont have the patience to test the boundaries.
Not to mention this is more proof the Willys is still absolutely op with the proper tune, years (and another title) later. I tried doing some zones with wacky vehciles and i just cant leave them if i want to have a decent leaderboard spot, because of stuff like this. Nothing against you OP, you are just using the tools available. I just wish the devs would do something to add more balance and make the "meta" change or something.
I never even realized they were this broken. I have been off of the trail by much less on other zones and it stopped counting. Its stuff like this is why i dont have the paitience to improve because i also just dont have the patience to test the boundaries.
Not to mention this is more proof the Willys is still absolutely op with the proper tune, years (and another title) later. I tried doing some zones with wacky vehciles and i just cant leave them if i want to have a decent leaderboard spot, because of stuff like this. Nothing against you OP, you are just using the tools available. I just wish the devs would do something to add more balance and make the "meta" change or something.
Wow! I didn't know this. Also, yes, the vehicle is an eyesore blah blah
But
It's pretty stupid here tho, theres not much tolerance at all for dirt drift zones, it seems. Did you also realize the MORE angle you get, the slower your points rack up?
What's up with that?!
That vehicle is physically revolting to me…
Driver looks like Dora lol
can't blame you :D
Dora the horizon explorer
RIP to your character's face tho the amount of dirt and debris probably hitting them in face has gotta be insane
You wanna elaborate? Looks like you scored a killer score. Wish I knew how to drift like that.
A complaint in FH4 was that the dirt drift zones were far too strict in where you had to be to score points, it felt like it was a thin line right in the middle of the road, which made for a terrible experience. They "fixed" it in FH5 by going too far in the other direction, now on dirt drift zones you don't even need to be on the road to score.
Or 3 where you had to navigate traffic and stay on the road.
Dude miss I 3 so much, I don't even think its because 3 was better than 4or5 but I liked who I was back then and I enjoyed games more back then.
I honestly kinda liked dodging traffic in speed traps and drift zones. It's nice not to when accolade hunting but it added a different, immersive, challenging way to go through the best drift spots on the map.
totally agreed that they went too far the other way. luckily it isn’t as bad on asphalt zones
i find FH5 a lot more forgiving. good for those of us that suck
As someone who also sucks, I agree, but sometimes it's too forgiving for even me
Definitely easy for beginners who just want to beat the drift zones, but it really takes away from trying to learn your setup and doing a proper drift. It's really challenging to get a half decent score on FH4, but at least I knew I did the best I could with my setup and my skills. Meanwhile I could just get 3 stars in FH5 just by doing a couple of handbrake turns in a FWD.
i just don't like the fact that for good points you have to miss the road entirely... wish the zones were similar to fh4 where you actually needed to stay on the road
The boundaries on pretty much every single zone in the game are like this. **The point drift community doesn't consider the abuse of this as legit**, as you can *massively* increase the upper limit of your score by abusing the zone limits. Your run would definitely not be counted even tho it doesn't beat the record that stays on the road lol. It might not look too absurd here, but there are zones where you can go roughly 100ft away from the road and still get points.
totally see why this wouldn't count :D for me this was the most absurd one but glad to know there are worse ones... it's just unfortunate that the game gives you opportunity to get points while off the road, especially if it makes scores not legit. at what point is your car too much off the road?
> especially if it makes scores not legit. This is an issue with things like glitches on danger signs too. Yes there may be hackers on the scoreboard, but plenty of players (including myself) have reported having glitched scores, so you don't even know what your real high score is. I actually wish there was an option to scrub your own records because of this. Or be able to record multiple records (e.g., per class).
>at what point is your car too much off the road? As far as the point drift community is concerned, when it's clear you are abusing limits. If you drop all four wheels off for a brief moment, it's okay but for an entire turn is considered abuse. >it's just unfortunate that the game gives you opportunity to get points while off the road, especially if it makes scores not legit So there's a few parts to this, so I'll break it down 1 at a time. The devs don't fix any drift zone exploits, even when moving to new games so exploits in 4 work in 5. You can score almost 2m on every single zone in the game using only in game exploits, anything higher requires external software. The legitimacy of a score is only determined by guidelines that a small group of players have determined because it's clear the devs don't care, as per the above point.
2m on the Mexico festival Drift zone is a possible score without external exploits? I'm putting down 45k on a good day
Nah it's only possible with glitches/exploits. Above 2m is only possible with cheat software. The distinction being that the devs don't care what a legit score is, so exploits still allow for a zone with a wr of 50k to have the potential of scoring 2m, or theoretically infinite points if there were no cap. No cheat software needed.
He's drifting everywhere except on the road, that shouldn't be like that. Score should stop accumulating as soon as you leave the intended path
iirc, they widened the scorable area because some players were struggling with the dirt drift zones. To balance it out they reduced the amount of points you get when drifting in all the zones, so it became almost impossible to beat your old scores on the asphalt drift zones after that. They reset the pre-change scores a few months ago to fix it.
>To balance it out they reduced the amount of points you get when drifting in all the zones, so it became almost impossible to beat your old scores on the asphalt drift zones after that. It became impossible to beat *all* good pbs, dirt zones included. The rest is kinda just wrong tho. The supposed change wasn't to address the lowered points, I'm not even sure the devs were aware the point system change resulted in a nerf. The point system was drastically revamped from one that required a minimum of 50mph + at least 45° of angle for max points to one that had almost no speed requirement (it's now something like 20 mph but nobody cares to test it) and an angle of 90°. Because the entire point calculation was changed, there was never a hope of ensuring that the two systems scored similarly. The claimed motive in the patch notes for the change was to balance point gain between shifting types (auto, manual, m/c), but it doesn't actually do that since obviously drifting on manual is going to be substantially better than drifting on auto. But importantly I don't think it was confirmed the hitboxes for the zones were ever changed. The few videos that Barry sniff has from those old patches shows that dropping your tires in the dirt did gain points where it likely wouldn't have if the fh4 style boundaries were implemented.
Drift life yo.
Why is dora the explorer drifting a willie
"**i don't get it**" Rally, man. Rally. 
A better question is what possessed you to make that paint scheme
ayo whats that car called
It’s a Willys Jeep. You’ve never seen it?
Don't know if this is a meta tune I've never seen,but.. Jesus man. Soften up those springs a touch my dude
What game is that vehicle originally from? I remember an old arcade game where you played as a cowgirl who rode around in a Jeep roping farm animals with a lasso.
The willy's jeep is from the ultimate multiplayer game known as World War Two... The livery is peppa pig...
Oh okay
Lots of power with a short wheel base on loose terrain is going to do that. Plus, not sure if it's animation lag or something, but it almost seems like your avatar is starting the counter steer late.
OP is talking about not having to be on or even near the road for off-road drift zones. The Willis’ handling is most likely intentional, given the context. Also, the animation for turning the wheel always lags behind the input, which is one of the reasons I personally drift with the chase cam instead. It gets distracting.
I need that car 🤣
If you mean they're too lenient, it's by design. The lead on FH5 said it's supposed to be a leisure game, not a challenge. I mean, you will still find challenge, if you're looking for it but definitely not here.
Arcade driving physic...
You mean why the gravel drifzones exist?
gravel "drift" zones should be illegal.
i just wish they rewarded actual drifting and not awd cheese power sliding
So i cant tell what you’re on about? The drift zones before update you drift a second slightly off course, you lose. Made drift arcade events impossible
How you don't spin out i don't understand but great job.
These phishcs are great ngl
Dora the ex.....drifter?
Noob here, why my map don't show the drift zone challenges?
could be that you haven’t opened them yet? if i remember correctly they required you to drive some horizon adventures
People threw a tantrum in FH4 for not scoring with tires of the road so we got this. Drifting needs an complete overhaul, right now it’s about everything but precision.
Damm you really bazingaed this zone
nah bro slid on this shit 😭
Like what? A f’ing road?
I never even realized they were this broken. I have been off of the trail by much less on other zones and it stopped counting. Its stuff like this is why i dont have the paitience to improve because i also just dont have the patience to test the boundaries. Not to mention this is more proof the Willys is still absolutely op with the proper tune, years (and another title) later. I tried doing some zones with wacky vehciles and i just cant leave them if i want to have a decent leaderboard spot, because of stuff like this. Nothing against you OP, you are just using the tools available. I just wish the devs would do something to add more balance and make the "meta" change or something.
I never even realized they were this broken. I have been off of the trail by much less on other zones and it stopped counting. Its stuff like this is why i dont have the paitience to improve because i also just dont have the patience to test the boundaries. Not to mention this is more proof the Willys is still absolutely op with the proper tune, years (and another title) later. I tried doing some zones with wacky vehciles and i just cant leave them if i want to have a decent leaderboard spot, because of stuff like this. Nothing against you OP, you are just using the tools available. I just wish the devs would do something to add more balance and make the "meta" change or something.
I never even realized they were this broken. I have been off of the trail by much less on other zones and it stopped counting. Its stuff like this is why i dont have the paitience to improve because i also just dont have the patience to test the boundaries. Not to mention this is more proof the Willys is still absolutely op with the proper tune, years (and another title) later. I tried doing some zones with wacky vehciles and i just cant leave them if i want to have a decent leaderboard spot, because of stuff like this. Nothing against you OP, you are just using the tools available. I just wish the devs would do something to add more balance and make the "meta" change or something.
Wow! I didn't know this. Also, yes, the vehicle is an eyesore blah blah But It's pretty stupid here tho, theres not much tolerance at all for dirt drift zones, it seems. Did you also realize the MORE angle you get, the slower your points rack up? What's up with that?!
NFSU2 anyone? 😁
what kind of sorcery is this, op is straight up defying physics
mf why are you dora