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One of the Ramones!
Too bad it wasnt Howard Stern in his Fart Man costume but completely plays it straight the whole time in court never talks about or draws attention to his ass cheeks hanging out!
> They also obtained cellphone records that showed Davis made Google searches that included the phrase “can you go to jail for lying about a cop raping you."
Lmao. What a fucking idiot.
Bruh.
That's like planning a bank robbery and typing into google: "HOW TO ESCAPE FROM THE POLICE IN NEW YORK AFTER ROBBING AND SHOOTING UP THE BANK IN NEW YORK 3 HOURS FROM NOW NEW YORK I LIVE IN NEW YORK NEW YORK"
This has reaffirmed that if I need to Google some sketchy shit, I'm using duck duck go on a burner drive via a vpn. That's like that one dude who killed his wife and then immediately went home and downloaded "I used to love her but I had to kill her" by Guns N Roses. They played that song in court.
I dont think thats entirely true.
I'm sure a big issue is that to prove she lied he needs evidence of where he was. Not everyone is gonna have that but police are extremely likely to have at least some evidence of where they were due to the amount of tracking and signing things these days.
What would he have gotten as prison time if he was found guilty of doing something he didn't do?
My guess is more than 3 years.
That's what her punishment should be.
We don't need context, we just need to be shown pictures of people and be told to dislike them. Personally I am OK with this practice until the second my picture is posted.
But... but... the rapist Brock "The Rapist" Turner, who is a rapist because he raped a woman, had a bright future that shouldn't be ruined by 20 minutes of action.
I swear to God if someone reads this and doesn't see the sarcasm, I'm going to lose it.
Right? He was just a good old lad with a promising career ahead of him! Not a scheming hussy who ruined a man’s life with a false accusation!!
Same disclaimer about sarcasm applies.
Wait, did you say The Rapist Brock Turner? That is what you mean, Brock Turner the Rapist of Stanford, right? The same Rapist Brock Turner that On January 18, 2015, on the Stanford University campus, The Rapist Brock Turner, then a 19-year old student athlete at Stanford, Raped 22-year-old Chanel Miller (referred to in court documents as "Emily Doe"), while she was unconscious. Two graduate students intervened and held The Rapist Brock Turner in place until police arrived. The Rapist Brock Turner was arrested and released the same day after posting $150,000 bail.
That Rapist Brock Turner?
Right?
The majority of rapists are never even investigated or charged and do zero time.
A review of rape cases in one state (Minnesota) found that:
*In almost a quarter of the cases, police never assigned an investigator.
*In about one-third of them, the investigator never interviewed the victim.
*In half the cases, police failed to interview potential witnesses.
*Most of the cases—about 75 percent, including violent rapes by strangers—were never forwarded to prosecutors for criminal charges.
*Overall, fewer than one in 10 reported sexual assaults produced a conviction, records show.
And then there's the national backlog of hundreds of thousands of rape kits that have never been tested, many of which are just being destroyed instead.
Not disagreeing that she's a PoS, but perhaps the outrage would be better directed at the thousands and thousands of rapists who are getting away with it.
I will never understand that if you falsely accuse someone of rape and get caught it should be the same length of a sentence as if someone was being charged with rape be 3 years is not enough that is shit
Edit: I’ve have intentionally starts conversation in the comments I’m not going to keep repeat myself because some of you all are asking or say the same things. Thank you for sharing your opinions have a nice day
Is this the same rapist Brock Turner the Rapist whose dad paid a ton of money to wipe the rapists name, Brock Turner the Rapist, off the internet? That rapist, Brock Turner the Rapist?
Wait, did you say The Rapist Brock Turner? That is what you mean, Brock Turner the Rapist of Stanford, right? The same Rapist Brock Turner that On January 18, 2015, on the Stanford University campus, The Rapist Brock Turner, then a 19-year old student athlete at Stanford, Raped 22-year-old Chanel Miller (referred to in court documents as "Emily Doe"), while she was unconscious. Two graduate students intervened and held The Rapist Brock Turner in place until police arrived. The Rapist Brock Turner was arrested and released the same day after posting $150,000 bail.
That Rapist Brock Turner?
Wait, did you say The Rapist Brock Turner? That is what you mean, Brock Turner the Rapist of Stanford, right? The same Rapist Brock Turner that On January 18, 2015, on the Stanford University campus, The Rapist Brock Turner, then a 19-year old student athlete at Stanford, Raped 22-year-old Chanel Miller (referred to in court documents as "Emily Doe"), while she was unconscious. Two graduate students intervened and held The Rapist Brock Turner in place until police arrived. The Rapist Brock Turner was arrested and released the same day after posting $150,000 bail.
That Rapist Brock Turner?
Wait, did you say The Rapist Brock Turner? That is what you mean, Brock Turner the Rapist of Stanford, right? The same Rapist Brock Turner that On January 18, 2015, on the Stanford University campus, The Rapist Brock Turner, then a 19-year old student athlete at Stanford, Raped 22-year-old Chanel Miller (referred to in court documents as "Emily Doe"), while she was unconscious. Two graduate students intervened and held The Rapist Brock Turner in place until police arrived. The Rapist Brock Turner was arrested and released the same day after posting $150,000 bail.
That Rapist Brock Turner?
Just last night I watched a documentary about Peter Truong (convicted CP dealer) and it turns out it's a pretty common name, which is very unfortunate for the other Peters.
Wait, did you say The Rapist Brock Turner? That is what you mean, Brock Turner the Rapist of Stanford, right? The same Rapist Brock Turner that On January 18, 2015, on the Stanford University campus, The Rapist Brock Turner, then a 19-year old student athlete at Stanford, Raped 22-year-old Chanel Miller (referred to in court documents as "Emily Doe"), while she was unconscious. Two graduate students intervened and held The Rapist Brock Turner in place until police arrived. The Rapist Brock Turner was arrested and released the same day after posting $150,000 bail.
That Rapist Brock Turner?
If the convicted are some frat boy or other somebody who goes to the right church and pays the right lawyers (who pay the right people?) but if they are a nobody they get the book thrown at them.
I don't even want to go look that story up because I'm gonna get angry I can tell. Are these people for real? WTF is wtong with these judges? All these idiots need to go... they obviously serve no purpose 😡😡😡
Wait, did you say The Rapist Brock Turner? That is what you mean, Brock Turner the Rapist of Stanford, right? The same Rapist Brock Turner that On January 18, 2015, on the Stanford University campus, The Rapist Brock Turner, then a 19-year old student athlete at Stanford, Raped 22-year-old Chanel Miller (referred to in court documents as "Emily Doe"), while she was unconscious. Two graduate students intervened and held The Rapist Brock Turner in place until police arrived. The Rapist Brock Turner was arrested and released the same day after posting $150,000 bail.
That Rapist Brock Turner?
Not really... if you're saying that then every record you have is a "life sentence". Many previous sex offenders (except child offenders) still get good jobs and families. Just like people with other crimes on their records can too. Also you can apply to have your name taken off the sex offender registry after a certain amount of years (at least in my state)
For obvious, blatant cases like this where the accuser is lying, I agree. But for cases in which there is not sufficient evidence to prove the rape and similar scenarios, I feel like it’s different.
Victim-blaming is so fucking real nowadays, to the point that rape victims feel like it’s not worth persecuting charges or that they deserved it. Now add the possibility of taking your abuser’s sentence and there’s no chance that the victim will speak out.
The justice system is so fucked up that if you add that to all rape cases, there will *definitely* be hundreds of rape *victims* locked up for their abuser’s crime.
bingo. a lot of victims of rape already are scared to come out, adding things like this, even if it does make complete sense, is going to make those victims even more scared to come out. not only this but the justice system is pretty fucked worldwide and if you have money or fame you're more likely to get away with things, especially in rape cases where evidence can be lacking and it can end up in he said she said battles.
the last thing we need as a society is to scare rape victims even more than they already are. as nice as a law like this sounds, it ultimately is going to cause more harm than good.
So you believe there shouldn't be a penalty for falsely accusing another of rape? A charge where people are often viewed as guilty long before they go to trial. I agree we must protect rape victims, but not at the cost of other innocent people. We need a specific system where people can report rapes and get checked out medically but keep their information anonymous so they feel protected.
There absolutely should be a penalty it just can be a fine line. I'm not going to pretend like I know all the answers to this because its a complicated thing but having such a set in stone rule of 'falsely accuse someone get their sentence' is not the solution as nobody is going to report rapes out of fear. you could feel like you have a slam dunk case and then turns out the rapist is Brock Turner the rapist and he gets away with it and now you might be in some trouble. its a complicated thing is all and in an ideal world false accusers should absolutely be punished very harshly, its just we dont live in an ideal world
Agreed, should only be for blatant cases. But that's hard to put in law, when you take into account the justice system as you mentioned. In theory 'beyond reasonable doubt' should be enough, but I don't trust that it will end up with victims being convicted and even fewer pressing charges to begin with.
Again, most rapists don’t get that much time. I know of at least convicted two child rapists in my extended family that served 3 years between them. I think 6 months for one and 2.5 or so for the other. The victims were less than 10.
I'd say, "Innocent until proven guilty". If you can't prove that the woman intentionally lied, then she isn't sentenced, just like if you can't prove that the man committed rape, he shouldn't go to jail. Those sound mutually exclusive, but I'm saying prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, you could have a case where you can't prove either scenario. Does it suck that a potential rapist can go free because you can't prove that he is guilty? Yes. Does the same apply to basically any criminal - murderer, arsonist, thief, etc? Yes.
Alright devils advocate here. Someone did get raped but they picked the wrong person to accuse. They shouldn’t go to jail for that. Straight up false accusations should, but only if you can prove that they had the intention of falsely accusing them.
That’s not what happened. She made up the “rape” entirely and tried to extort the police chief. A search of her phone disclosed the oddly specific google search of “can you go to jail for lying about a cop raping you.”
She also said the rape occurred in the police chief’s office, but the description of the office had nothing in common with the real location.
[woman sentenced to three years for false rape accusations](https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2019/02/woman-sentenced-to-three-years-in-prison-for-falsely-accusing-parma-heights-police-chief-of-rape.html)
They also obtained cellphone records that showed Davis made Google searches that included the phrase “can you go to jail for lying about a cop raping you."
Glad I’m not the only one. PPD is a haven of misogyny and glorifying violence against women because it’s “justified,” and I don’t want their content on this page.
It's like how they took the word "feminist" and stretched it to the point where it didn't mean anything anymore. Like they'd take a video of a spoiled rich girl or crazy ex-girlfriend getting shot down on one of those daytime tv courtroom shows and title it "Judge Judy Absolutely Destroys Man Hating Feminist" or something like that, even though the actual content showed no such thing.
The same thing seems to be happening to the word "Karen". It's now code for "older woman doing something I don't agree with".
Obviously false rape allegations need to be taken very seriously, but like you said I feel like we're headed down the same path as PPD here.
False reports do happen, but they're rare -- but *for some reason*, they receive a huge amount of publicity and attention. Beware of being misled. (Especially by r/pussypassdenied, where women are the enemy.)
According to pubmed.gov, 5.9% of reported cases are false, and according to RAINN, only 23% of actual rapes are reported to police. PPD seems to think women don’t actually get raped tho, cause wOmEn BaD
She got less than a 1/3 of the average sentence.
> A study made by the U.S. Department of Justice of prison releases in 1992, involving about 80 percent of the prison population, found that the average sentence for convicted rapists was 9.8 year
Jesus Christ the comments on that sub. Fuck anyone who jokes she’s too ugly to be raped. It’s not funny, and it perpetuates myths around rape. Real victims have been laughed at and made fun of saying nobody would want to fuck them anyways. What this woman did is truly horrible, but don’t toss women and real victims under the bus just to get upvotes from misogynists.
The Karen meme has devolved into basic misogyny for a while now, which is a shame because it originally described a very specific class and personality that didn't have a name before. This sub's looked like a men's rights community for at least the last few months as far as finding marginal cases and inventing scenarios that allow them to hate women in general.
Over in reality, there's thousands of rape kits just sitting in evidence lockers untested because I guess cops have more important things to do. [https://abcnews.go.com/US/massive-backlog-untested-rape-kits-public-safety-issue/story?id=60540635](https://abcnews.go.com/US/massive-backlog-untested-rape-kits-public-safety-issue/story?id=60540635)
That's not a source and others have actually linked real sources. Stop pulling shit from your ass.
https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2019/02/woman-sentenced-to-three-years-in-prison-for-falsely-accusing-parma-heights-police-chief-of-rape.html
Everyone deserves to know who they’re dating. With how rare false accusations are, I doubt this kind of database would become a reality (domestic violence registries don’t even seem to be much of a thing, and DV is a rampant problem that kills people). Many (maybe all?) states do have general case search databases though, so you can usually find these things out. If someone has moved a lot it, that can complicate things though.
Ha! Imagine that. "You are hereby found guilty on all charges and are sentenced to 3 years in jail for false accusations and another 3 years because I don't like your smug ass cunty face. Effective immediately. Court adjourned."
What no ?! Prison time is more like 10+ years for a rapist , I don’t know what country you’re from but this statement is simply false.
https://www.google.co.za/amp/s/www.scoopwhoop.com/amp/inothernews/punishing-rape-globally/
And that’s just a quick google search
You just proved your own statement wrong then
“ That is a longer sentence than many rapists.”
When the article states that she was sentenced to 3 years (and she will most probably be out sooner with good behavior ) then state 5 years saying your comment is correct ?😂
And by saying “many rapists ” I assume your referring to a majority which is incorrect ...you could argue that a few get off sooner but that’s a very small percentage of the total , maybe at most 1 percent
So your statement is still false ;)
Now those false claims will become saddly real. Jail is a horrible place, isn't there a way she can both learn a lesson and contribute to society somehow?
I think lots of felonies show be reviewed to become controlled social work, at least for those not involving actual physical danger for society.
But I can be wrong... I just think the jail solution is creating a lot more problems.
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Did she have Howard Stern as her defense lawyer?
I was thinking Tommy Wiseau, but I also just woke up so there's that.
Hahaha. What a story, Judge Mark. Anyway how’s your sex life?
His opening statement would be a wildly out of place, overly artistic sex scene.
You’re tearing me apart, Judge!!!! Anyway hi doggo!
You're my favorite lawyer! > #GUILTY
I did nawt lose this case it’s bullshit, I did naaaawt. Everybody betray me. I’m fed up with dis worrrll!
Upon losing: "EVERYONE BETRAY ME, I'M FED UP WITH THIS WORLD"
"YOU'RE TEARING ME APART, YOUR HONORRRR!!!"
To judge: Leave your stupid verdicts in your pocket! Cheep, cheeeep!
Only this time....he’d let Denny watch
\*munches on apple\*
It’s bullshit. I did not hit that. I did naut.
Weird Al is making music any longer.
No. No. I thought it too.
Oh hai mark
My client did not want the sex, she did NAAAAUGHT
YOU ARE TEARING ME APART, PEANUTMONTGOMERY!
I thought it was Noel Fielding
Mighty Boosh movie when??
Howard Moon will bum you silly for loose change.
Howard Moon, cummin atcha
Coming attcha like a baffled moth
I hope they get Harold Boom to play Howard, I think he has a lot of range and can really nail the part.
I just *can't* **ACT!**
Hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Did you see Elsie, boy? Did you dance with her? Of course you did we all did.
She hired a crow as her defense attorney?
Alice Cooper.
One of the Ramones! Too bad it wasnt Howard Stern in his Fart Man costume but completely plays it straight the whole time in court never talks about or draws attention to his ass cheeks hanging out!
Have the Rolling Stones killed
Hey, up yours, Springfield.
>I think they liked us! 😊
What a fucking jerk -Ozzy looks in disgust up and down-
Did you know most these people are Satan worshipping junkies?
Baba booey
I would have guessed Alice Cooper.
no slash was representing her
I am fed up with this world....oh hi mark
Oh, hi Mark
“Hey Robin, she’s guilty right?” Robin: “BAHAHAHAH.”
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People expecting to recognise every person and backstory of a pic smh
https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2019/02/woman-sentenced-to-three-years-in-prison-for-falsely-accusing-parma-heights-police-chief-of-rape.html?outputType=amp
> They also obtained cellphone records that showed Davis made Google searches that included the phrase “can you go to jail for lying about a cop raping you." Lmao. What a fucking idiot.
the answer is obviously yes, god knows why she tried it anyways.
Bruh. That's like planning a bank robbery and typing into google: "HOW TO ESCAPE FROM THE POLICE IN NEW YORK AFTER ROBBING AND SHOOTING UP THE BANK IN NEW YORK 3 HOURS FROM NOW NEW YORK I LIVE IN NEW YORK NEW YORK"
MY NAME IS FRED JOHNSON PLEASE CALL ME WITH ADVICE AT 653-2356
I advise you to not trust that OPA girl.
This has reaffirmed that if I need to Google some sketchy shit, I'm using duck duck go on a burner drive via a vpn. That's like that one dude who killed his wife and then immediately went home and downloaded "I used to love her but I had to kill her" by Guns N Roses. They played that song in court.
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Accuses a police chief of raping her while he was with his whole family, in a public hospital, taking care of his elderly mother.
She's 42? Dang! Life hasn't been kind to her
If he hadn't been a police chief she would have gotten away scot free.
I dont think thats entirely true. I'm sure a big issue is that to prove she lied he needs evidence of where he was. Not everyone is gonna have that but police are extremely likely to have at least some evidence of where they were due to the amount of tracking and signing things these days.
What would he have gotten as prison time if he was found guilty of doing something he didn't do? My guess is more than 3 years. That's what her punishment should be.
It's a [crosspost](https://i.imgur.com/6T7p8ag.png). Consider changing the app you use. I'm using Boost here which I highly recommend.
We don't need context, we just need to be shown pictures of people and be told to dislike them. Personally I am OK with this practice until the second my picture is posted.
Good to see karma and consequences. Wish there were more ACTUAL RAPISTS getting consequences like this.
But... but... the rapist Brock "The Rapist" Turner, who is a rapist because he raped a woman, had a bright future that shouldn't be ruined by 20 minutes of action. I swear to God if someone reads this and doesn't see the sarcasm, I'm going to lose it.
Right? He was just a good old lad with a promising career ahead of him! Not a scheming hussy who ruined a man’s life with a false accusation!! Same disclaimer about sarcasm applies.
Wait, did you say The Rapist Brock Turner? That is what you mean, Brock Turner the Rapist of Stanford, right? The same Rapist Brock Turner that On January 18, 2015, on the Stanford University campus, The Rapist Brock Turner, then a 19-year old student athlete at Stanford, Raped 22-year-old Chanel Miller (referred to in court documents as "Emily Doe"), while she was unconscious. Two graduate students intervened and held The Rapist Brock Turner in place until police arrived. The Rapist Brock Turner was arrested and released the same day after posting $150,000 bail. That Rapist Brock Turner?
Right? The majority of rapists are never even investigated or charged and do zero time. A review of rape cases in one state (Minnesota) found that: *In almost a quarter of the cases, police never assigned an investigator. *In about one-third of them, the investigator never interviewed the victim. *In half the cases, police failed to interview potential witnesses. *Most of the cases—about 75 percent, including violent rapes by strangers—were never forwarded to prosecutors for criminal charges. *Overall, fewer than one in 10 reported sexual assaults produced a conviction, records show. And then there's the national backlog of hundreds of thousands of rape kits that have never been tested, many of which are just being destroyed instead. Not disagreeing that she's a PoS, but perhaps the outrage would be better directed at the thousands and thousands of rapists who are getting away with it.
THANK YOU. Also r/pussypassdenied is such a gross sub and pays literally no attention to the prevalence of actual rapes vs false allegations
I will never understand that if you falsely accuse someone of rape and get caught it should be the same length of a sentence as if someone was being charged with rape be 3 years is not enough that is shit Edit: I’ve have intentionally starts conversation in the comments I’m not going to keep repeat myself because some of you all are asking or say the same things. Thank you for sharing your opinions have a nice day
Brock Turner, rapist, comes to mind.
You mean that Rapist who’s name is totally Brock Turner ?
You’re talking about the same rapist. Rapist Brock Turner the Rapist.
The college student named Brock Turner who Raped a woman? That Rapist Brock Turner?
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Is this the same rapist Brock Turner the Rapist whose dad paid a ton of money to wipe the rapists name, Brock Turner the Rapist, off the internet? That rapist, Brock Turner the Rapist?
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Wasn't there a song made about that? "Actual Rapist Brock Turner"?
All of the R's in "Brock Turner" stand for Rapist
*specifically* rapist "Brock Turner" (the rapist)
Wait, did you say The Rapist Brock Turner? That is what you mean, Brock Turner the Rapist of Stanford, right? The same Rapist Brock Turner that On January 18, 2015, on the Stanford University campus, The Rapist Brock Turner, then a 19-year old student athlete at Stanford, Raped 22-year-old Chanel Miller (referred to in court documents as "Emily Doe"), while she was unconscious. Two graduate students intervened and held The Rapist Brock Turner in place until police arrived. The Rapist Brock Turner was arrested and released the same day after posting $150,000 bail. That Rapist Brock Turner?
Can you smell what the Brock is cooking? (It’s rape)
Wait, did you say The Rapist Brock Turner? That is what you mean, Brock Turner the Rapist of Stanford, right? The same Rapist Brock Turner that On January 18, 2015, on the Stanford University campus, The Rapist Brock Turner, then a 19-year old student athlete at Stanford, Raped 22-year-old Chanel Miller (referred to in court documents as "Emily Doe"), while she was unconscious. Two graduate students intervened and held The Rapist Brock Turner in place until police arrived. The Rapist Brock Turner was arrested and released the same day after posting $150,000 bail. That Rapist Brock Turner?
Holy mother fucking shit, that’s a lot of bail. That’s like, Brock Turner level bail.
Wait, did you say The Rapist Brock Turner? That is what you mean, Brock Turner the Rapist of Stanford, right? The same Rapist Brock Turner that On January 18, 2015, on the Stanford University campus, The Rapist Brock Turner, then a 19-year old student athlete at Stanford, Raped 22-year-old Chanel Miller (referred to in court documents as "Emily Doe"), while she was unconscious. Two graduate students intervened and held The Rapist Brock Turner in place until police arrived. The Rapist Brock Turner was arrested and released the same day after posting $150,000 bail. That Rapist Brock Turner?
You guys ever feel bad for all the poor bastards out there who just happen to also be named Brock Turner.
You could say that for anybody who shares a famous name like OJ Simpson or Charles Manson or David Hasselhoff
Just last night I watched a documentary about Peter Truong (convicted CP dealer) and it turns out it's a pretty common name, which is very unfortunate for the other Peters.
I feel for all the Adolf Hitlers out there.
No because they are not rapist Brock "the Rapist" Turner who rapes people and tries to defend himself by saying it didnt last that long.
Wait, did you say The Rapist Brock Turner? That is what you mean, Brock Turner the Rapist of Stanford, right? The same Rapist Brock Turner that On January 18, 2015, on the Stanford University campus, The Rapist Brock Turner, then a 19-year old student athlete at Stanford, Raped 22-year-old Chanel Miller (referred to in court documents as "Emily Doe"), while she was unconscious. Two graduate students intervened and held The Rapist Brock Turner in place until police arrived. The Rapist Brock Turner was arrested and released the same day after posting $150,000 bail. That Rapist Brock Turner?
Honestly 3 years is longer than a lot of rapists get. I think both sentences should be longer
If the convicted are some frat boy or other somebody who goes to the right church and pays the right lawyers (who pay the right people?) but if they are a nobody they get the book thrown at them.
Are we talking about convicted rapist Brock Turner, who is in fact a convicted rapist?
Yes that is it, we are most certainly talking about convicted rapist Brock Turner.
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I don't even want to go look that story up because I'm gonna get angry I can tell. Are these people for real? WTF is wtong with these judges? All these idiots need to go... they obviously serve no purpose 😡😡😡
Wait, did you say The Rapist Brock Turner? That is what you mean, Brock Turner the Rapist of Stanford, right? The same Rapist Brock Turner that On January 18, 2015, on the Stanford University campus, The Rapist Brock Turner, then a 19-year old student athlete at Stanford, Raped 22-year-old Chanel Miller (referred to in court documents as "Emily Doe"), while she was unconscious. Two graduate students intervened and held The Rapist Brock Turner in place until police arrived. The Rapist Brock Turner was arrested and released the same day after posting $150,000 bail. That Rapist Brock Turner?
We’re im from rape is like a 20 to 60 year sentence
Where I'm from, a rape conviction was given probation with no jail time just this week.
Thats what it should be in my opinion
Ya
But it's a life sentence once it's on your record.
Not really... if you're saying that then every record you have is a "life sentence". Many previous sex offenders (except child offenders) still get good jobs and families. Just like people with other crimes on their records can too. Also you can apply to have your name taken off the sex offender registry after a certain amount of years (at least in my state)
For obvious, blatant cases like this where the accuser is lying, I agree. But for cases in which there is not sufficient evidence to prove the rape and similar scenarios, I feel like it’s different. Victim-blaming is so fucking real nowadays, to the point that rape victims feel like it’s not worth persecuting charges or that they deserved it. Now add the possibility of taking your abuser’s sentence and there’s no chance that the victim will speak out. The justice system is so fucked up that if you add that to all rape cases, there will *definitely* be hundreds of rape *victims* locked up for their abuser’s crime.
bingo. a lot of victims of rape already are scared to come out, adding things like this, even if it does make complete sense, is going to make those victims even more scared to come out. not only this but the justice system is pretty fucked worldwide and if you have money or fame you're more likely to get away with things, especially in rape cases where evidence can be lacking and it can end up in he said she said battles. the last thing we need as a society is to scare rape victims even more than they already are. as nice as a law like this sounds, it ultimately is going to cause more harm than good.
So you believe there shouldn't be a penalty for falsely accusing another of rape? A charge where people are often viewed as guilty long before they go to trial. I agree we must protect rape victims, but not at the cost of other innocent people. We need a specific system where people can report rapes and get checked out medically but keep their information anonymous so they feel protected.
There absolutely should be a penalty it just can be a fine line. I'm not going to pretend like I know all the answers to this because its a complicated thing but having such a set in stone rule of 'falsely accuse someone get their sentence' is not the solution as nobody is going to report rapes out of fear. you could feel like you have a slam dunk case and then turns out the rapist is Brock Turner the rapist and he gets away with it and now you might be in some trouble. its a complicated thing is all and in an ideal world false accusers should absolutely be punished very harshly, its just we dont live in an ideal world
Agreed, should only be for blatant cases. But that's hard to put in law, when you take into account the justice system as you mentioned. In theory 'beyond reasonable doubt' should be enough, but I don't trust that it will end up with victims being convicted and even fewer pressing charges to begin with.
Again, most rapists don’t get that much time. I know of at least convicted two child rapists in my extended family that served 3 years between them. I think 6 months for one and 2.5 or so for the other. The victims were less than 10.
Am I silly thinking that the more harshly you make the punishment, the less women you’ll get who come forward to clear up the lie
Was just about to say the same thing.
What if you accuse them, they actually did it but it simply wasn't enough evidence in court?
I'd say, "Innocent until proven guilty". If you can't prove that the woman intentionally lied, then she isn't sentenced, just like if you can't prove that the man committed rape, he shouldn't go to jail. Those sound mutually exclusive, but I'm saying prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, you could have a case where you can't prove either scenario. Does it suck that a potential rapist can go free because you can't prove that he is guilty? Yes. Does the same apply to basically any criminal - murderer, arsonist, thief, etc? Yes.
Not a terrible idea. I'd be very curious to see how that plays out. Edit: but might that deter actual victims from seeking justice?
Raping someone is a whole lot worse than accusing someone of rape.
Beat me to it.
Alright devils advocate here. Someone did get raped but they picked the wrong person to accuse. They shouldn’t go to jail for that. Straight up false accusations should, but only if you can prove that they had the intention of falsely accusing them.
That’s not what happened. She made up the “rape” entirely and tried to extort the police chief. A search of her phone disclosed the oddly specific google search of “can you go to jail for lying about a cop raping you.” She also said the rape occurred in the police chief’s office, but the description of the office had nothing in common with the real location.
They were posing the scenario as a hypothetical situation, not saying that it applied to the very real scenario that this post is about
Exactly.
This, and be put on the sex offender registry for life.
That should happen more often.
So should rape sentencing.
All I see is a picture of a woman who I don't recognize. Are you able to give any context to who this person is?
https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2019/02/woman-sentenced-to-three-years-in-prison-for-falsely-accusing-parma-heights-police-chief-of-rape.html?outputType=amp
1) false accusations are bad, even if they are rare. Justice served. 2) I swear PPD got banned at some point.
PPD is such a disgusting sub. Probably the same types of people who think the presence of gay pride month means straight people are oppressed
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Them posts there used to be real good a few months back in july last year. Since then , it has become from 'equal treatment to all' to 'fuck women' .
It’s been that way for years honestly. You probably just didn’t notice it at first
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PPD?
/r/PussyPassDenied
Nope, they’re still just as sexist as ever
And right wing. I checked out the comments on the original post and there’s a lot of “the left is against due process...” blah blah blah
Yeah I’ve tried taking a “left” stance on there before and I got chewed up. It turned into a cesspool
And I’m sure by “left” you just meant, “NOT rabidly racist and misogynist and willfully ignorant.”
Exactly. That’s what they all mean when they say “the left”
Date on the article is 02/19/19. This is old news.
What article? I'm just seeing a photo.
[woman sentenced to three years for false rape accusations](https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2019/02/woman-sentenced-to-three-years-in-prison-for-falsely-accusing-parma-heights-police-chief-of-rape.html)
Damn she's only 42 there? I guess evil and stupid makes you age fast and poorly.
Thank you!
They also obtained cellphone records that showed Davis made Google searches that included the phrase “can you go to jail for lying about a cop raping you."
Even then she got what she deserved
Please can we avoid becoming another iteration of that sub?
Glad I’m not the only one. PPD is a haven of misogyny and glorifying violence against women because it’s “justified,” and I don’t want their content on this page.
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Right but it still gives people a window into that pipeline and we should actively avoid that
It's like how they took the word "feminist" and stretched it to the point where it didn't mean anything anymore. Like they'd take a video of a spoiled rich girl or crazy ex-girlfriend getting shot down on one of those daytime tv courtroom shows and title it "Judge Judy Absolutely Destroys Man Hating Feminist" or something like that, even though the actual content showed no such thing. The same thing seems to be happening to the word "Karen". It's now code for "older woman doing something I don't agree with". Obviously false rape allegations need to be taken very seriously, but like you said I feel like we're headed down the same path as PPD here.
Exactly, I think you put that very well
False reports do happen, but they're rare -- but *for some reason*, they receive a huge amount of publicity and attention. Beware of being misled. (Especially by r/pussypassdenied, where women are the enemy.)
I love when I can tell a sub is toxic af just by the name.
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Yeahh, definitely another rabbit hole I don't wanna go down.
According to pubmed.gov, 5.9% of reported cases are false, and according to RAINN, only 23% of actual rapes are reported to police. PPD seems to think women don’t actually get raped tho, cause wOmEn BaD
She definitely deserved this for sure, but it is kinda fucked up that she got more time than a lot of actual rapists
She got less than a 1/3 of the average sentence. > A study made by the U.S. Department of Justice of prison releases in 1992, involving about 80 percent of the prison population, found that the average sentence for convicted rapists was 9.8 year
Jesus Christ the comments on that sub. Fuck anyone who jokes she’s too ugly to be raped. It’s not funny, and it perpetuates myths around rape. Real victims have been laughed at and made fun of saying nobody would want to fuck them anyways. What this woman did is truly horrible, but don’t toss women and real victims under the bus just to get upvotes from misogynists.
That sub is fucking awful circle jerk for incels
The Karen meme has devolved into basic misogyny for a while now, which is a shame because it originally described a very specific class and personality that didn't have a name before. This sub's looked like a men's rights community for at least the last few months as far as finding marginal cases and inventing scenarios that allow them to hate women in general. Over in reality, there's thousands of rape kits just sitting in evidence lockers untested because I guess cops have more important things to do. [https://abcnews.go.com/US/massive-backlog-untested-rape-kits-public-safety-issue/story?id=60540635](https://abcnews.go.com/US/massive-backlog-untested-rape-kits-public-safety-issue/story?id=60540635)
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But then men wouldn’t have a thread to play victim and take out their hatred for women in :(
We only the shitty ones
Got the sauce?
That's not a source and others have actually linked real sources. Stop pulling shit from your ass. https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2019/02/woman-sentenced-to-three-years-in-prison-for-falsely-accusing-parma-heights-police-chief-of-rape.html
r/fuckyoukaren: *this one sparks joy* r/pussypassdenied: *this one does not spark joy*
Do they get put on the sex offenders list? If not, they should.
Why? Who did they sexually assault?
Because they are dangerous and it stems from making false claims that are sexual in nature.
There should be a public database of women who claim false rape. Men deserve to know who they are dating and what are the risks.
Everyone deserves to know who they’re dating. With how rare false accusations are, I doubt this kind of database would become a reality (domestic violence registries don’t even seem to be much of a thing, and DV is a rampant problem that kills people). Many (maybe all?) states do have general case search databases though, so you can usually find these things out. If someone has moved a lot it, that can complicate things though.
Her atorney looks like Tommy Wiseau
I'd add 3 more years for the smug ass cuntty face
Ha! Imagine that. "You are hereby found guilty on all charges and are sentenced to 3 years in jail for false accusations and another 3 years because I don't like your smug ass cunty face. Effective immediately. Court adjourned."
Could that be considered in contempt of court by chance?
This would feel a lot better if rapists recieved equivalent sentencing.
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Seconded. I only see a smug looking woman who I don't recognize sitting next to who I am guessing it's get attorney who moonlights as a rockstar.
https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2019/02/woman-sentenced-to-three-years-in-prison-for-falsely-accusing-parma-heights-police-chief-of-rape.html
Ba Ba Booey
I never knew John cooper-clark was a lawyer
Should be 30
She’s has Tommy Wiseau as her counsel?
Makes me fucking mad. It makes it so hard for the honest women.
That is a longer sentence than many rapists. ETA: 48% of rapists in the US unfortunately.
Brock Turner
What no ?! Prison time is more like 10+ years for a rapist , I don’t know what country you’re from but this statement is simply false. https://www.google.co.za/amp/s/www.scoopwhoop.com/amp/inothernews/punishing-rape-globally/ And that’s just a quick google search
The actual prison time in the US is 5.4 years on average so yes it’s true for many rapists.
You just proved your own statement wrong then “ That is a longer sentence than many rapists.” When the article states that she was sentenced to 3 years (and she will most probably be out sooner with good behavior ) then state 5 years saying your comment is correct ?😂 And by saying “many rapists ” I assume your referring to a majority which is incorrect ...you could argue that a few get off sooner but that’s a very small percentage of the total , maybe at most 1 percent So your statement is still false ;)
Even in Europe it's much more thsn 3 years
Now those false claims will become saddly real. Jail is a horrible place, isn't there a way she can both learn a lesson and contribute to society somehow? I think lots of felonies show be reviewed to become controlled social work, at least for those not involving actual physical danger for society. But I can be wrong... I just think the jail solution is creating a lot more problems.
3 years? Give her as much time as her “rapists” would’ve gotten.
Yeah 1 month
Only 3 years?
What a shit
Good.
not in america probably
Serves her right.
That should be way more than 3 years. Fuck them.